On October 31 2011 17:18 ypolt wrote: With the recent threads about anonymous I thought this might be of interest.
Following the kidnapping of a mexican street protester, mexican hackers under the anonymous banner have threatened to publish the identities and addresses of the syndicate's associates.
"You made a huge mistake by taking one of us. Release him," says the masked man in this spanish video.
Mike Vigil, a retired head of international operations for the DEA said following this announcement: "the Zetas Cartel needs to take Anonymous seriously because by publishing the names they identify the Zetas Cartel members to rivals and they will go after them."
Sounds like dangerous waters, but still kinda nice to see someone making a stand.
You do realize that they're not taking a stand against the Drugs, Killings, Tortures, Extortion that these Cartels take a part of, but a stand against messing with one of their members.
Is it necessary to release it to those who would actually kill everyone found on such a list? Isnt it perhaps a bit more diplomatic to just leave the names and evidence to the police?
Still - my respect of this group grows with every second
On November 01 2011 07:34 The_PhaCe wrote: Is it necessary to release it to those who would actually kill everyone found on such a list? Isnt it perhaps a bit more diplomatic to just leave the names and evidence to the police?
Still - my respect of this group grows with every second
Yes, the Mexican government will take care of this........... lol
The government has been proven to be just as corrupt as the cartels. What should happen is all of the Cartels should have their rosters released to each other equal footing and maybe the problem will eliminate itself.
On November 01 2011 07:34 The_PhaCe wrote: Is it necessary to release it to those who would actually kill everyone found on such a list? Isnt it perhaps a bit more diplomatic to just leave the names and evidence to the police?
Still - my respect of this group grows with every second
The police are afraid of them and may not act with the names, their rivals however will use the names to their advantage most likely through killing or threats
On October 31 2011 17:18 ypolt wrote: With the recent threads about anonymous I thought this might be of interest.
Following the kidnapping of a mexican street protester, mexican hackers under the anonymous banner have threatened to publish the identities and addresses of the syndicate's associates.
"You made a huge mistake by taking one of us. Release him," says the masked man in this spanish video.
Mike Vigil, a retired head of international operations for the DEA said following this announcement: "the Zetas Cartel needs to take Anonymous seriously because by publishing the names they identify the Zetas Cartel members to rivals and they will go after them."
Sounds like dangerous waters, but still kinda nice to see someone making a stand.
You do realize that they're not taking a stand against the Drugs, Killings, Tortures, Extortion that these Cartels take a part of, but a stand against messing with one of their members.
What's wrong with that? That would be a rational, self interested and good action unlike things like attacking Facebook and trying to nanny people and decide what sites they are allowed to use or not.
I don't think you realize the members of anonomous never tell anyone including each other that they are part of anonymous. Also, no member of anonymous is hacking or doing anything that could possibly lead the cartel to them. Throw as much money at it as you want, but you aren't going to find someone that doesn't exist.
Yea because they never caught Jake Davis in some small ass town in the middle of nowhere right?
Jake Davis was a well known person, any person in that town may have turned him in
A well known person? how about Ryan Cleary, he got ratted out by other members of LuLzSec, who then in turn got outed by other members of LuLzSec..
Members of anonymous can't be ratted out by other members because they are NOT an organization. They don't even know who each other are as far as I'm aware.
This video is stupid. Most of the local governments of each state do money laundry for narcos and protect them. Los Zetas (and most of cartels) is huge, you don't have an idea.
The government is losing the war and anything that some kids on internetz would do, won't change that.
im just waiting for when some corpse with a columbian necktie shows up on the news. people give Anonymous way too much credit. as much as i give the people respect for having the balls to call out the drug cartels, i expect heads will start flying
On November 01 2011 08:01 azka wrote: This video is stupid. Most of the local governments of each state do money laundry for narcos and protect them. Los Zetas (and most of cartels) is huge, you don't have an idea.
The government is losing the war and anything that some kids on internetz would do, won't change that.
I could be wrong here, but I assume if one does things through enough proxies\VPS\takes all apropriate steps for security\anonyimity and whatnot, it will be pretty much impossible to catch. If your goal was to post names\whatever from the cartel, and be completely untraceable, you could always just travel to an internet cafe and do it from there.
Obviously nothing will protect someone from being ratted out assuming they work with someone else, that being said, unlike the cartels and whatnot, Anonymous is not one entity\big group. Some parts are organized, some parts are smaller more tight knit groups, and some work alone. Sure they can find and kill or whatever someone, who is in some way related to anonymous, but if that were to happen, and it was made clear that it was done by the cartels to kill someone of anonymous, i think that would just make more people care about it\involved\would not really do any good for the cartels.
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