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Kaozpanna
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden47 Posts
November 05 2011 15:15 GMT
#241
Just read this in the Swedish newspaper aswell. Im glad the guy got released and I hope anonymous leaves this shit now so no innocent people get killed.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 15:25:06
November 05 2011 15:24 GMT
#242
So anonymus announces 2 huge ass operations which stir a lot of attention, then back out? Ok, i guess i just wont read these kind of stuff anymore
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freewareplayer
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany403 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 15:54:24
November 05 2011 15:44 GMT
#243
On November 06 2011 00:24 Geo.Rion wrote:
So anonymus announces 2 huge ass operations which stir a lot of attention, then back out? Ok, i guess i just wont read these kind of stuff anymore

why do you post if your not even interested enough to read about it before posting?

Los Zetas released the Anon Member, they didnt back out, Anonymus got what they wanted.

They just forced a Drug cartel that goverments have trouble with, to meet their demands, "this kind of stuff" is pretty interesting, defiently worth to keep reading that.

Edit:
On November 05 2011 22:24 Cascade wrote:

According to this article, the Zetas had a condition though: if anonymous ever publish that information, they will go after the guy and his family. So even though they got their guy out, I think Zetas won the game... now they have locked down the anonymous information, since they know the identity of one of them. Maybe it was a bad move from anonymous to tell zetas about one of their guys, because now zetas can blackmail them into anything essentially. What's next? "Anon, give us info about that other clan, or we will kill the sister of your guy!" Also, now anyone can kill (or at least put in very dangerous situation) this guy, and his family, by publishing information about zetas in the name of anonymous... Hmm, maybe anon went a bit outside their field of expertise... :/


How can you possibly think Los Zetas are in a good spot with this?
They got 25.000+ Emails stolen by Anonymus, and Anon knows multiple Undercover Zeta Identities. We dont know the number, but it could be anything from 10-100 exposed Zetas.


Zetas Kill the ONE anon dude, then
Email the List to Zetas Rivals, and loads of Zetas will die, far far more than the 1 anon dude

Luckily for Zeta Anon arent ruthless murderers and wouldnt trade 1 friends life for 100 enemys life, Zeta would be dumb as hell if they force the Release on the data by goin for the anon dude.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
November 05 2011 15:48 GMT
#244
Gz Anonymous, that was awesome and certainly won back my faith in you.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 16:11:45
November 05 2011 16:11 GMT
#245
Anonymous calls off outing of cartel after release of kidnapped member
By Sean Gallagher | Published about 22 hours ago
Anonymous IberoAmerica, the Latin American collective within the Anonymous hacktivist group, has called off its operation to expose members of the Zetas narcotics cartel after announcing that a kidnapped Anonymous member was released. The released hostage also reportedly delivered a message: that the Zetas would kill ten people for every name of a Zeta associate released by Anonymous.

Anonymous members launched an effort called OpCartel last week after claiming a member had been kidnapped during a "Operation Paperstorm" protest in Veracruz. The group threatened to "dox" members of the cartel, releasing names and addresses of taxi drivers, journalists, and members of law enforcement associated with the group. To collect information to aid in their effort, the group posted a "plug-in" Web application to allow would-be informants to protect their identities while providing names and other information.

Over the past few days, however, there has been growing dissention within the group about going forward with the effort; the Zetas had responded with online efforts of their own, sending death threats through Twitter and other channels, including a claim that they had tracked down the IP address of the user of one Anonymous Twitter account. According to Stratfor Global Intelligence analyst Ben West, the Zetas have their own computer security resources, and could conceivably have made efforts to identify Anonymous members as retribution.

"Since we have seen evidence of cartels employing their own computer scientists to engage in cybercrime," he said in a video report, "it is logical to conclude that the cartels likely have individuals working to track anti-cartel bloggers and hackers. Those individuals involved thus face the risk of abduction, injury and death—judging by how Los Zetas have dealt with threats in the past."

After briefly cancelling the effort on November 2, the Anonymous group apparently voted to move forward with the plan according to a video post by Barrett Brown, who has acted as the public face of Anonymous in the past. But just a day later, the operation was called off again, apparently because Anonymous had met its original goal.

"On this day, our anonymous friend retained by the Zetas cartel has been released," the group said in a statement on its website. "We can say that while bruised, he is alive and well. He has sent us a message that if Anonymous reveals a name related to the cartel, the family of the kidnapped anonymous will suffer, and for each cartel member revealed, ten people will be put to death. The Anonymous collective has decided by consensus not to disclose the information that we have for now, as we understand that we can not ignore threats involving innocent civilians that have nothing to do with our actions."


http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/11/anonymous-calls-off-outing-of-narco-cartel-after-release-of-kidnapped-member.ars
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
November 05 2011 16:43 GMT
#246
On November 06 2011 00:44 freewareplayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 00:24 Geo.Rion wrote:
So anonymus announces 2 huge ass operations which stir a lot of attention, then back out? Ok, i guess i just wont read these kind of stuff anymore

why do you post if your not even interested enough to read about it before posting?

Los Zetas released the Anon Member, they didnt back out, Anonymus got what they wanted.

They just forced a Drug cartel that goverments have trouble with, to meet their demands, "this kind of stuff" is pretty interesting, defiently worth to keep reading that.

Edit:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 22:24 Cascade wrote:

According to this article, the Zetas had a condition though: if anonymous ever publish that information, they will go after the guy and his family. So even though they got their guy out, I think Zetas won the game... now they have locked down the anonymous information, since they know the identity of one of them. Maybe it was a bad move from anonymous to tell zetas about one of their guys, because now zetas can blackmail them into anything essentially. What's next? "Anon, give us info about that other clan, or we will kill the sister of your guy!" Also, now anyone can kill (or at least put in very dangerous situation) this guy, and his family, by publishing information about zetas in the name of anonymous... Hmm, maybe anon went a bit outside their field of expertise... :/


How can you possibly think Los Zetas are in a good spot with this?
They got 25.000+ Emails stolen by Anonymus, and Anon knows multiple Undercover Zeta Identities. We dont know the number, but it could be anything from 10-100 exposed Zetas.


Zetas Kill the ONE anon dude, then
Email the List to Zetas Rivals, and loads of Zetas will die, far far more than the 1 anon dude

Luckily for Zeta Anon arent ruthless murderers and wouldnt trade 1 friends life for 100 enemys life, Zeta would be dumb as hell if they force the Release on the data by goin for the anon dude.

well they backed out from their operation of exposing Zetas and accomplices, which arguably would have been a move against crime etc, but as it turns out they wanted themselves safe. Ok, Zetas made further threats, so it's reasonable to back out, but still, it's 2 major operation which i was curious (this and facebook) about and neither of them was even started afaik. My point is, i just dont really care anymore about this stuff, will wait till things actually happen, then look into it.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
November 05 2011 17:00 GMT
#247
wtf anon actually got what they wanted.

That's absolutely amazing.
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RA
Profile Joined October 2008
Latvia791 Posts
November 05 2011 17:05 GMT
#248
Now that is a badass statement... I would feel scared to go against thugs like that.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 17:14:31
November 05 2011 17:11 GMT
#249
I read that stuff and I can't help to be extremely, extremely skeptical.

I haven't been following this whole story but what evidence do we have that these statements are not 100% pure fiction?

Edit: I'm not saying there isn't any, I'm just curious... Is this stuff to be believed?
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Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
November 05 2011 17:41 GMT
#250
On November 06 2011 01:43 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 00:44 freewareplayer wrote:
On November 06 2011 00:24 Geo.Rion wrote:
So anonymus announces 2 huge ass operations which stir a lot of attention, then back out? Ok, i guess i just wont read these kind of stuff anymore

why do you post if your not even interested enough to read about it before posting?

Los Zetas released the Anon Member, they didnt back out, Anonymus got what they wanted.

They just forced a Drug cartel that goverments have trouble with, to meet their demands, "this kind of stuff" is pretty interesting, defiently worth to keep reading that.

Edit:
On November 05 2011 22:24 Cascade wrote:

According to this article, the Zetas had a condition though: if anonymous ever publish that information, they will go after the guy and his family. So even though they got their guy out, I think Zetas won the game... now they have locked down the anonymous information, since they know the identity of one of them. Maybe it was a bad move from anonymous to tell zetas about one of their guys, because now zetas can blackmail them into anything essentially. What's next? "Anon, give us info about that other clan, or we will kill the sister of your guy!" Also, now anyone can kill (or at least put in very dangerous situation) this guy, and his family, by publishing information about zetas in the name of anonymous... Hmm, maybe anon went a bit outside their field of expertise... :/


How can you possibly think Los Zetas are in a good spot with this?
They got 25.000+ Emails stolen by Anonymus, and Anon knows multiple Undercover Zeta Identities. We dont know the number, but it could be anything from 10-100 exposed Zetas.


Zetas Kill the ONE anon dude, then
Email the List to Zetas Rivals, and loads of Zetas will die, far far more than the 1 anon dude

Luckily for Zeta Anon arent ruthless murderers and wouldnt trade 1 friends life for 100 enemys life, Zeta would be dumb as hell if they force the Release on the data by goin for the anon dude.

well they backed out from their operation of exposing Zetas and accomplices, which arguably would have been a move against crime etc, but as it turns out they wanted themselves safe. Ok, Zetas made further threats, so it's reasonable to back out, but still, it's 2 major operation which i was curious (this and facebook) about and neither of them was even started afaik. My point is, i just dont really care anymore about this stuff, will wait till things actually happen, then look into it.


The facebook one was confirmed fake a long time ago.
freewareplayer
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany403 Posts
November 05 2011 17:59 GMT
#251
On November 06 2011 01:43 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 00:44 freewareplayer wrote:
On November 06 2011 00:24 Geo.Rion wrote:
So anonymus announces 2 huge ass operations which stir a lot of attention, then back out? Ok, i guess i just wont read these kind of stuff anymore

why do you post if your not even interested enough to read about it before posting?

Los Zetas released the Anon Member, they didnt back out, Anonymus got what they wanted.

They just forced a Drug cartel that goverments have trouble with, to meet their demands, "this kind of stuff" is pretty interesting, defiently worth to keep reading that.

Edit:
On November 05 2011 22:24 Cascade wrote:

According to this article, the Zetas had a condition though: if anonymous ever publish that information, they will go after the guy and his family. So even though they got their guy out, I think Zetas won the game... now they have locked down the anonymous information, since they know the identity of one of them. Maybe it was a bad move from anonymous to tell zetas about one of their guys, because now zetas can blackmail them into anything essentially. What's next? "Anon, give us info about that other clan, or we will kill the sister of your guy!" Also, now anyone can kill (or at least put in very dangerous situation) this guy, and his family, by publishing information about zetas in the name of anonymous... Hmm, maybe anon went a bit outside their field of expertise... :/


How can you possibly think Los Zetas are in a good spot with this?
They got 25.000+ Emails stolen by Anonymus, and Anon knows multiple Undercover Zeta Identities. We dont know the number, but it could be anything from 10-100 exposed Zetas.


Zetas Kill the ONE anon dude, then
Email the List to Zetas Rivals, and loads of Zetas will die, far far more than the 1 anon dude

Luckily for Zeta Anon arent ruthless murderers and wouldnt trade 1 friends life for 100 enemys life, Zeta would be dumb as hell if they force the Release on the data by goin for the anon dude.

well they backed out from their operation of exposing Zetas and accomplices, which arguably would have been a move against crime etc, but as it turns out they wanted themselves safe. Ok, Zetas made further threats, so it's reasonable to back out, but still, it's 2 major operation which i was curious (this and facebook) about and neither of them was even started afaik. My point is, i just dont really care anymore about this stuff, will wait till things actually happen, then look into it.

They never created an Operation with the intent to expose Zetas....
They made an Operation with the intent to get their member released, which they achieved by threatening to expose Zetas
No Backing out done here

Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
November 05 2011 18:00 GMT
#252
On November 06 2011 02:41 Paperplane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 01:43 Geo.Rion wrote:
On November 06 2011 00:44 freewareplayer wrote:
On November 06 2011 00:24 Geo.Rion wrote:
So anonymus announces 2 huge ass operations which stir a lot of attention, then back out? Ok, i guess i just wont read these kind of stuff anymore

why do you post if your not even interested enough to read about it before posting?

Los Zetas released the Anon Member, they didnt back out, Anonymus got what they wanted.

They just forced a Drug cartel that goverments have trouble with, to meet their demands, "this kind of stuff" is pretty interesting, defiently worth to keep reading that.

Edit:
On November 05 2011 22:24 Cascade wrote:

According to this article, the Zetas had a condition though: if anonymous ever publish that information, they will go after the guy and his family. So even though they got their guy out, I think Zetas won the game... now they have locked down the anonymous information, since they know the identity of one of them. Maybe it was a bad move from anonymous to tell zetas about one of their guys, because now zetas can blackmail them into anything essentially. What's next? "Anon, give us info about that other clan, or we will kill the sister of your guy!" Also, now anyone can kill (or at least put in very dangerous situation) this guy, and his family, by publishing information about zetas in the name of anonymous... Hmm, maybe anon went a bit outside their field of expertise... :/


How can you possibly think Los Zetas are in a good spot with this?
They got 25.000+ Emails stolen by Anonymus, and Anon knows multiple Undercover Zeta Identities. We dont know the number, but it could be anything from 10-100 exposed Zetas.


Zetas Kill the ONE anon dude, then
Email the List to Zetas Rivals, and loads of Zetas will die, far far more than the 1 anon dude

Luckily for Zeta Anon arent ruthless murderers and wouldnt trade 1 friends life for 100 enemys life, Zeta would be dumb as hell if they force the Release on the data by goin for the anon dude.

well they backed out from their operation of exposing Zetas and accomplices, which arguably would have been a move against crime etc, but as it turns out they wanted themselves safe. Ok, Zetas made further threats, so it's reasonable to back out, but still, it's 2 major operation which i was curious (this and facebook) about and neither of them was even started afaik. My point is, i just dont really care anymore about this stuff, will wait till things actually happen, then look into it.


The facebook one was confirmed fake a long time ago.

really? what i gathered was that they announced it, found out that they cant pull it off cuz not even they among themselves agree so it was deemed as fake. I could be wrong
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 18:02:16
November 05 2011 18:00 GMT
#253
If this is really true then wow good job... This is crazy :O

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aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
November 14 2011 05:24 GMT
#254
I don't know if this needs a bump but I just read this .. and this is really worrisome

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=142221638
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Mjolnir
Profile Joined January 2009
912 Posts
November 14 2011 05:38 GMT
#255

What I want to know is, how on Earth did Anonymous find this supposed info on the cartel's "undercover" agents? Do the big-wigs in the drug world have all kinds of info haphazardly stored on non-secure drives or something ridiculous?

I kinda figured that sort of info would be very low key, even for the people keeping track of it (and by low key I mean, not only heavily guarded, but not documented in any incriminating fashion).

TheBomb
Profile Joined October 2011
237 Posts
November 14 2011 06:03 GMT
#256
Hold and behold nothing happened just as I told you.
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12632 Posts
November 14 2011 06:50 GMT
#257
On November 14 2011 14:38 Mjolnir wrote:

What I want to know is, how on Earth did Anonymous find this supposed info on the cartel's "undercover" agents? Do the big-wigs in the drug world have all kinds of info haphazardly stored on non-secure drives or something ridiculous?

I kinda figured that sort of info would be very low key, even for the people keeping track of it (and by low key I mean, not only heavily guarded, but not documented in any incriminating fashion).


I honestly don't think anywhere on the web is safe against the hackers
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 14 2011 07:02 GMT
#258
On November 14 2011 15:03 TheBomb wrote:
Hold and behold nothing happened just as I told you.



One guy talking out of his butt was enough, but two? Shame on you.

If you actually read what people said you would know by now that the cartels released Anon's guy and threatened to harm the guy's family and slay ten other innocent civilians for each name leaked.

All Anon wanted was for the safe release of their member, which the cartels complied with.

Hence the information they have won't be leaked for the time being.
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