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Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
November 03 2011 18:25 GMT
#221
I believe Anonymous Mexico in general backed out, but there's still some individuals going through with the plan.
I still think they're total ballers, but what can you do with a handful of hackers vs an organisation like this : (
couches
Profile Joined November 2010
618 Posts
November 03 2011 18:36 GMT
#222
On November 02 2011 05:49 Wegandi wrote:

How many people are drinking moonshine today?

round here bout everybody be driknin the moonshine now come on over yall and getcher quart n shattup
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 19:37:39
November 03 2011 19:20 GMT
#223
On November 04 2011 03:25 Paperplane wrote:
I believe Anonymous Mexico in general backed out, but there's still some individuals going through with the plan.
I still think they're total ballers, but what can you do with a handful of hackers vs an organisation like this : (


According to this and this, they are going forward with the whole operation. Hard to say who is backing who and what. And who knows what is happening or going to happen.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Corsyx
Profile Joined October 2011
United States5 Posts
November 03 2011 19:27 GMT
#224
:O This is darn Crazy!!!
GO CECILSUNKURE
Seldentar
Profile Joined May 2011
United States888 Posts
November 03 2011 19:38 GMT
#225


The public face of Anonymous speaks.

Los Zetas are about to meet their maker
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
November 03 2011 19:45 GMT
#226
On November 04 2011 04:38 Seldentar wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QMOtNrL-fPQ

The public face of Anonymous speaks.

Los Zetas are about to meet their maker


Right, because releasing the names of the drug cartel members who essentially own the vast majority of Mexican government, intelligence agencies, and police forces is going to strike such a blow.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
November 03 2011 23:42 GMT
#227
On November 04 2011 04:45 Elegy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 04:38 Seldentar wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QMOtNrL-fPQ

The public face of Anonymous speaks.

Los Zetas are about to meet their maker


Right, because releasing the names of the drug cartel members who essentially own the vast majority of Mexican government, intelligence agencies, and police forces is going to strike such a blow.



Each name and/or affiliation that is brought to the public will cause those people to be killed.

The threat out outing names and agencies is very real. It is a death sentence. There are many very strong and well funded criminal organizations.....

I'm very proud of the Mexican community, they have to take up this fight, they must combat criminal tyranny.
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
November 03 2011 23:43 GMT
#228
Aww yeah Anon :D One of my friends dressed up as one for halloween xD
Life's good :D
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
November 04 2011 23:10 GMT
#229
If Anonymous is such that no one really knows who is all in the group, how will we know if the Zetas catch and kill a member? While they wait for their computer experts to track em down, they could catch and kill random people they dont like and claim that they are members of the group responsible for the threats against the Zetas. Anonymous will of course deny it regardless of whether or not they are actually members.

Also, how do we know Anonymous's information about the Zeta members is accurate? If some of their names arent even Zeta members, people will die needlessly. I dunno, they might have good intentions but I think a lot of innocent people are going to suffer. Its a little too late now though. If the Zetas are tracking them down now, I doubt theyll stop even if Anonymous all announce theyre cancelling the attacks
dangerjoe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark1866 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 23:18:48
November 04 2011 23:14 GMT
#230
According to a danish newspaper Los Zetas released the Anon member. And members of Anon confirms this..
Dunno if it is a bluff or whatever, but it seems they got what they wanted..

Edit: Article was made by a pretty bad newspaper, but here it is for any danish people: http://ekstrabladet.dk/kup/elektronik/teknologi/article1651846.ece

found englishs sources too: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395863,00.asp

http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/243612/20111104/anonymous-kidnapping-victim-released-notorious-drug-cartel.htm
Ask Beavis, I get nothing Butt-head
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
November 04 2011 23:17 GMT
#231
The south american community is still very much going forward!

They are organizing and working together online in the hacking/cracking/info sharing networks more towards the distruction of the zetas and corruption than ever before!


Occupy Mexico
Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
November 04 2011 23:26 GMT
#232
On November 05 2011 08:17 AttackZerg wrote:
The south american community is still very much going forward!

Occupy Mexico

Minor point, which seems to be forgotten a lot of the time: Mexico is in North America.
Guard011
Profile Joined October 2011
13 Posts
November 04 2011 23:41 GMT
#233
One of the core values of the 'Anonymous' movement is to never be anyone's personal army. This was a value lost when Sabu was the head of lulzsec, as he prettymuch told the anonymous people what to do, when to ddos someone and so on. Now they started an Op to be some mexican dude's personal army? And then they promptly release a statement saying 'Nah bro we don't really want to fuck with the cartel'. They're starting to make a joke of themselves now.
oldgregg
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand1176 Posts
November 04 2011 23:47 GMT
#234
On November 05 2011 08:14 dangerjoe wrote:
According to a danish newspaper Los Zetas released the Anon member. And members of Anon confirms this..
Dunno if it is a bluff or whatever, but it seems they got what they wanted..

Edit: Article was made by a pretty bad newspaper, but here it is for any danish people: http://ekstrabladet.dk/kup/elektronik/teknologi/article1651846.ece

found englishs sources too: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395863,00.asp

http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/243612/20111104/anonymous-kidnapping-victim-released-notorious-drug-cartel.htm


Awesome so anonymous achieved what they wanted to! Take THAT haters and doubters! People CAN achieve things when they nut up and stand up to these evil cowards
Calculatedly addicted to Substance D for profit by drug terrorists
Tomazi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom158 Posts
November 05 2011 00:00 GMT
#235
On November 05 2011 08:41 Guard011 wrote:
One of the core values of the 'Anonymous' movement is to never be anyone's personal army. This was a value lost when Sabu was the head of lulzsec, as he prettymuch told the anonymous people what to do, when to ddos someone and so on. Now they started an Op to be some mexican dude's personal army? And then they promptly release a statement saying 'Nah bro we don't really want to fuck with the cartel'. They're starting to make a joke of themselves now.



Rubbish. Being a personal army =! doing something because they feel it is right.
Aspiring to be MKP's butler
Guard011
Profile Joined October 2011
13 Posts
November 05 2011 00:48 GMT
#236
On November 05 2011 09:00 Tomazi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 08:41 Guard011 wrote:
One of the core values of the 'Anonymous' movement is to never be anyone's personal army. This was a value lost when Sabu was the head of lulzsec, as he prettymuch told the anonymous people what to do, when to ddos someone and so on. Now they started an Op to be some mexican dude's personal army? And then they promptly release a statement saying 'Nah bro we don't really want to fuck with the cartel'. They're starting to make a joke of themselves now.



Rubbish. Being a personal army =! doing something because they feel it is right.


The point is that they are letting someone command them, some (one) person telling them what to do, and that's something they used to be against, and have openly said that this was not how they would operate.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
November 05 2011 13:24 GMT
#237
On November 05 2011 08:14 dangerjoe wrote:
According to a danish newspaper Los Zetas released the Anon member. And members of Anon confirms this..
Dunno if it is a bluff or whatever, but it seems they got what they wanted..

Edit: Article was made by a pretty bad newspaper, but here it is for any danish people: http://ekstrabladet.dk/kup/elektronik/teknologi/article1651846.ece

found englishs sources too: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395863,00.asp

http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/243612/20111104/anonymous-kidnapping-victim-released-notorious-drug-cartel.htm


it's in a (normally reliable) Swedish newspaper as well.

According to this article, the Zetas had a condition though: if anonymous ever publish that information, they will go after the guy and his family. So even though they got their guy out, I think Zetas won the game... now they have locked down the anonymous information, since they know the identity of one of them. Maybe it was a bad move from anonymous to tell zetas about one of their guys, because now zetas can blackmail them into anything essentially. What's next? "Anon, give us info about that other clan, or we will kill the sister of your guy!" Also, now anyone can kill (or at least put in very dangerous situation) this guy, and his family, by publishing information about zetas in the name of anonymous... Hmm, maybe anon went a bit outside their field of expertise... :/
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 13:38:22
November 05 2011 13:32 GMT
#238
On November 04 2011 04:45 Elegy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 04:38 Seldentar wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QMOtNrL-fPQ

The public face of Anonymous speaks.

Los Zetas are about to meet their maker


Right, because releasing the names of the drug cartel members who essentially own the vast majority of Mexican government, intelligence agencies, and police forces is going to strike such a blow.


Sensationalism much? Are you telling me los Zetas/CDG/whoever "own" the "vast majority" of the government? Because that's what you wrote, and it's not quite accurate. There is corruption, obviously, and it's a huge problem on many levels -- especially at the local level of authorities. However, it's not as if the "entire police force/government forces/military/whatever" is in bed with the drug cartels. It doesn't work that way. In full, open contacts, the Mexican military still controls the battlefield, although that does not say the situation is not a mess. You don't have patrols of cartel fighters overrunning military bases or corrupting entire factions of the army/police... come on. It's more subtle and more focused at a local level, widespread

In any case, the concern with releasing names is that others pick up the names and act on the information. Sometimes by "act on the information", what I really mean is "brutally murder them".
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51407 Posts
November 05 2011 13:36 GMT
#239
for some reason i thought of this when seeing the title

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=38906
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Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 15:20:41
November 05 2011 14:59 GMT
#240
On November 05 2011 22:24 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 08:14 dangerjoe wrote:
According to a danish newspaper Los Zetas released the Anon member. And members of Anon confirms this..
Dunno if it is a bluff or whatever, but it seems they got what they wanted..

Edit: Article was made by a pretty bad newspaper, but here it is for any danish people: http://ekstrabladet.dk/kup/elektronik/teknologi/article1651846.ece

found englishs sources too: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395863,00.asp

http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/243612/20111104/anonymous-kidnapping-victim-released-notorious-drug-cartel.htm


it's in a (normally reliable) Swedish newspaper as well.

According to this article, the Zetas had a condition though: if anonymous ever publish that information, they will go after the guy and his family. So even though they got their guy out, I think Zetas won the game... now they have locked down the anonymous information, since they know the identity of one of them. Maybe it was a bad move from anonymous to tell zetas about one of their guys, because now zetas can blackmail them into anything essentially. What's next? "Anon, give us info about that other clan, or we will kill the sister of your guy!" Also, now anyone can kill (or at least put in very dangerous situation) this guy, and his family, by publishing information about zetas in the name of anonymous... Hmm, maybe anon went a bit outside their field of expertise... :/
They still have the info they try to blackmail them to do their bidding they still have that list that the Cartel didn't want to get out.
But crossing a cartel like that isn't something you can just put behind you, he'll have to live with this the rest of his life probably.
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