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On November 01 2011 01:37 HaruRH wrote:
Ah, the anons strike once more! Was a 'fan' *ehem* of them when they decided to help libyans take down gadaffi.
Do not under estimate the anonymous. If they have the means to crack down a government syndicate with ease, drug cartels are nothing to them.
You're kidding me right?
They hacked some websites and emails, and you call it "crack down a goverment" =__=
It wasnt them that cracked it. It was the hundreds of people dying trying to make a difference. It was with the aid of multiple countries. I think you need to rethink and shift the responsibility to the people that deserve it.
If you actually think anon is cable of more then a drug cartal, you have absolutly no sense of reality. Stop glorifying them. They are a group og hackers. nothing more. (they might symbolize more, but thats irrelevant.)
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Hey so that news link does say they have cancelled it, might wanna edit op
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Just did a blog about that will copy and paste thanks to TheMango for pointing this thread was here.
http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/cybercrime/231901970
My background/job is in computer networks, so I try and keep up with what is going on and came across the article above(and substantial others similar). I was never really a fan of them personally, I feel they are a bunch of malcontents. While behind their anonymity they are the biggest bad asses the interweb has ever seen, then when they are caught they become an elephant in a room full of mice(See Jake Davis).
Its one thing for them to "go after" a civilized country's IP, as the results and coincidences of doing so will just be jail for you and your accomplices. When you "decide" to wage war on a drug cartel you enter a whole other realm. Those mother fuckers do not play. They will wipe out a town if they are uncooperative. I believe last year the body count alone was 30k. If the "kids" in anon, lulzsec or whatever subgroup think that they will be safe dropping names and screwing with drug lords money they are idiots. Information Week reached out to an intelligence research firm that said basically anyone they name will be killed if they have ties to the organization. What Anonymous fails to realize is a vast majority of these people are forced to help. If they dont them, their family, and anyone close to them can be killed.
What these "hackers" don't understand and it really is a common misconception; is they veiw these cartels as being just muscle and no brains. Make no mistakes about them, they are : well financed, well equipped, and have access to information via bribes or threats.
There are probably only a dozen or so true "hackers" in their group(s?). The rest are script kiddies or use GUI programs. What is going to happen is if they go this route they are going to get a bunch of people(a majority of innocents) killed. They are going to put themselves and their families at risk. They think that being in the US,Canada,Europe that they are safe; they are sadly mistaken.
I cant fault them for wanting to go after people who are inherently bad, but they really need to think something like this out more especially in dealing with the consequences which will definitely be there.
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I sincerely hope they either know what they're doing, or back off before it gets dangerous =/
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Well its been nice knowing anonymous, their endeavors were really interesting to read for a good laugh. After the Mexican drug cartel, whats next, The Russian mafia?
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You guys need to understand what anonymous is. It's not 50 hackers sat on a private IRC server. It's not "moralfags" running around in masks outside. It's not lulzsec or chanology.
Because anyone can call themselves anonymous, anonymous is literally anyone who has a cause and doesn't want to be known. So it's ridiculous to say "anonymous did x", trying to refer to them explicitly.
Also, the particular people who are threatening the cartels are most likely using the anonymous reputation to make waves. But if not, they will certainly know the risks. Dozens have gone to court/prison already for involvement in other things, this isn't much different.
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Fucking with the cartel may be the stupidest thing "anonymous" (or anyone using that name) has done yet, it's one thing to fuck around with corporations, it's quite another to fuck around with a group that will kill you for fucking with them.
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one thing that most people are not taking into account is that the los zetas have their own "hackers"...
and they have guns and they have money and they have corrupt politicians and they have an army and THEY DON'T CARE AT ALL ABOUT YOUR LIFE!
On a side note: if you declare yourself anon, you are no longer anon..
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I don't know but, messing with a criminal organization seems like a reeeeeeeeeeally bad idea to me.
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Again, Anonymous doing something worthwhile! They should just release all the names anyway, the cartels are some of the worst scum walking the earth and anything that can be done to weaken their control is completely worth doing.
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THEY CANCELLED THEIR PLANS! No need to continue discussing what will happen to them when they are no longer attempting to go after LZ.
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On November 01 2011 02:06 AttackZerg wrote:
sabu from antisec is involved.
I expect a lot from this guy. He has earned my respect for his abilities.
I expect a HUGE amount of support from the south american hacking communities.
Care to expand on that a bit AZ?
Who is sabu?
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On November 01 2011 05:21 eXigent. wrote:
THEY CANCELLED THEIR PLANS! No need to continue discussing what will happen to them when they are no longer attempting to go after LZ.
"A Twitter post from LulzSec leader Sabu in direct reply to Sm0k34n0n appeared to dismiss the cancellation, or at least imply that there would be future anti-cartel efforts. "Thanks for pushing the op, but now that you've cleaned your hands of it--move on with your life," said Sabu. In another post, he said that "#OpCartel is very much alive and like I said to others in private our war is on corruption on both sides of the spectrum," referring to the war on drugs including both the Drug Enforcement Administration as well as the Mexican cartels. "
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On November 01 2011 05:12 theBOOCH wrote:
Again, Anonymous doing something worthwhile! They should just release all the names anyway, the cartels are some of the worst scum walking the earth and anything that can be done to weaken their control is completely worth doing.
Lol, everybody at least has some idea of who are involved. The Mexican government is infiltrated to the top. Anon is waaay over their head.
Poor guy that got kidnapped is probably dead and being dissolved in acid.And the Zetas is not some backwater guerrila that will not know how to deal with 1st world wonders(lol) they have tons of technology.
I hate the Zetas, I hope they go down. But I don´t see this guys doing much good, hell they will probably cause even more deaths.
Of course they will probably take the 1st arrest done, call the op a success while the guy will get replaced, and they will do more retaliatory killing.
Its easy to threaten and act as if some sacrifices are necessary from your PC monitor, but when people you know are under a threat its another story.Also the cartel has a lot of power in southern US so I don´t expect even borders to help them.
Sorry, they may have their heart in the right place but this is something extremely reckless
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On November 01 2011 04:27 DystopiaX wrote:
Fucking with the cartel may be the stupidest thing "anonymous" (or anyone using that name) has done yet, it's one thing to fuck around with corporations, it's quite another to fuck around with a group that will kill you for fucking with them.
Someone's gotta take on these evil people. Good on them I say, I dunno whether they will achieve anything tho. And how would the cartels find them? They're 'anonymous'....
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haha this Anonymous group is clearly trying to raise their popularity and influence by claiming they're planning to do crazy things to household known organizations, and then cancelling them at the last second.
They're good at generating hype.
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So long as Anonymous keeps doing good actions, then I am all for them. If they are able to get their friend returned then more power to them.
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On November 01 2011 05:21 Kimaker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 02:06 AttackZerg wrote:
sabu from antisec is involved.
I expect a lot from this guy. He has earned my respect for his abilities.
I expect a HUGE amount of support from the south american hacking communities.
Care to expand on that a bit AZ? Who is sabu?
Sabu is the so called "leader" of LulzSec.
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