On November 01 2011 01:19 FraCuS wrote:
This seems like they are gonna interrogate the guy they kidnapped.
This seems like they are gonna interrogate the guy they kidnapped.
If hes still alive.
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dignity
Canada908 Posts
On November 01 2011 01:19 FraCuS wrote: This seems like they are gonna interrogate the guy they kidnapped. If hes still alive. | ||
Sgonzo
Canada202 Posts
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ShatterZer0
United States1843 Posts
On October 31 2011 17:38 Paperplane wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2011 17:35 foobahz wrote: you guys realise anonymous are just a bunch of pimply teenagers on 4chan right? Who are fighting los zetas, one of the most dangerous criminal organisations in the world? Who cares. They have massive cohones for speaking up. Even the police there is afraid of los zetas. The goddamn mexican government has nothing on los zetas... Anon has SERIOUS guts. | ||
Paperplane
Netherlands1823 Posts
On November 01 2011 01:04 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Show nested quote + On November 01 2011 00:59 Paperplane wrote: This debate has come up a million times and I just find it very interesting. It's quite similar to do you give in to the demands of criminals who take hostages? If you do you might save lives that moment, but more people will take hostages because it works. And vice versa if you don't give em what they want. Neither is right or wrong but I love pretending to be all philosophical sometimes. There's a huge difference though between vigilantes fighting only with the internet and professional SWAT teams or military forces trained to deal with such encounters. If you love pretending to be all philosophical, you'd have no problem explaining why neither is right or wrong though in the case of negotiating with criminals in hostage situations. Because you're choosing between minimizing short term damage at the cost of more long term damage or less long term damage at the cost of more short term damage. Basically people are gonna get hurt whatever option you choose. If you have to choose between saving people right now or saving people later on, is any of those really wrong? | ||
TheRealArtemis
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On November 01 2011 01:28 Paperplane wrote: Show nested quote + On November 01 2011 01:04 GGTeMpLaR wrote: On November 01 2011 00:59 Paperplane wrote: This debate has come up a million times and I just find it very interesting. It's quite similar to do you give in to the demands of criminals who take hostages? If you do you might save lives that moment, but more people will take hostages because it works. And vice versa if you don't give em what they want. Neither is right or wrong but I love pretending to be all philosophical sometimes. There's a huge difference though between vigilantes fighting only with the internet and professional SWAT teams or military forces trained to deal with such encounters. If you love pretending to be all philosophical, you'd have no problem explaining why neither is right or wrong though in the case of negotiating with criminals in hostage situations. Because you're choosing between minimizing short term damage at the cost of more long term damage or less long term damage at the cost of more short term damage. Basically people are gonna get hurt whatever option you choose. If you have to choose between saving people right now or saving people later on, is any of those really wrong? Problem is, you're assuming what Anon is doing is minimizing long term damage. They're way in over their heads here and I think they could just end up causing damage - both long term and short term, but I hope I'm wrong. Yes I do think in most cases, maybe not all, that one choice will be the better choice. Odds are though that the better choice will most likely not be obvious to us at the time. I think in a hostage situation, it's definitely a possibility that no one gets hurt besides the criminals, but like I said that's where specialists/SWAT come in, not internet threats. | ||
Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On October 31 2011 18:38 ryanAnger wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2011 18:21 Mjolnir wrote: 4. As per 3, how long have they had it and not done anything with it (i.e. inform Police/whatever)? The cops are probably corrupt, and the Mexican Feds are having a hard enough time dealing with the cartels as is. They wouldn't be resourceful enough to effectively go after the people on the list. It seems a hell of a lot easier to just pit the rival cartels against each other so they kill each other. And yeah, I know they already do this, but it would get done a lot quicker with personal information available on the LZ. Yeah lets have a wikipedia article on every cartel with full list of names and home adreses ![]() | ||
HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
Do not under estimate the anonymous. If they have the means to crack down a government syndicate with ease, drug cartels are nothing to them. | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
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Windd
United States161 Posts
http://jeffreycarr.blogspot.com/2011/10/open-source-analysis-of-anonymous-los.html And other sources found via google. | ||
Sgonzo
Canada202 Posts
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WArped
United Kingdom4845 Posts
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On November 01 2011 01:39 Windd wrote: Apparently anon Anonymous has canceled the operation although a splinter group assuming the name #opcartel is still going to do something http://jeffreycarr.blogspot.com/2011/10/open-source-analysis-of-anonymous-los.html And other sources found via google. What a surprise. | ||
AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
I expect a lot from this guy. He has earned my respect for his abilities. I expect a HUGE amount of support from the south american hacking communities. | ||
Legatus Lanius
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Macabre
United States1262 Posts
They plan to fuck with facebook on the 5th of November too. Too much strange shit going on right now with Anon/OWS, and the government overall. ~_~ | ||
Myrista
United States32 Posts
I don't agree with EVERYTHING they've done as some of it gives a bad name to 4chan as a whole for some reason (whenever /b/ does something all of 4chan gets blamed and I'm tired of being called a "sick disgusting pedophile" or something of the sort when all I go is go to /v/ and /g/) but it's nice to see a lot of people share a common goal and work together to make their goal come to fruition. I hope this goes well. | ||
Moa
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Al Bundy
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