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dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
October 31 2011 16:23 GMT
#81
On November 01 2011 01:19 FraCuS wrote:
This seems like they are gonna interrogate the guy they kidnapped.


If hes still alive.
Sgonzo
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada202 Posts
October 31 2011 16:27 GMT
#82
all missing computer nerds should be looked upon as homicides by police after this lol
When Keepin It Real Goes Wrong
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
October 31 2011 16:28 GMT
#83
On October 31 2011 17:38 Paperplane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 17:35 foobahz wrote:
you guys realise anonymous are just a bunch of pimply teenagers on 4chan right?


Who are fighting los zetas, one of the most dangerous criminal organisations in the world?
Who cares. They have massive cohones for speaking up. Even the police there is afraid of los zetas.


The goddamn mexican government has nothing on los zetas... Anon has SERIOUS guts.
A time to live.
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 16:29:24
October 31 2011 16:28 GMT
#84
On November 01 2011 01:04 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 00:59 Paperplane wrote:
This debate has come up a million times and I just find it very interesting.
It's quite similar to do you give in to the demands of criminals who take hostages? If you do you might save lives that moment, but more people will take hostages because it works. And vice versa if you don't give em what they want.

Neither is right or wrong but I love pretending to be all philosophical sometimes.


There's a huge difference though between vigilantes fighting only with the internet and professional SWAT teams or military forces trained to deal with such encounters.

If you love pretending to be all philosophical, you'd have no problem explaining why neither is right or wrong though in the case of negotiating with criminals in hostage situations.


Because you're choosing between minimizing short term damage at the cost of more long term damage or less long term damage at the cost of more short term damage.

Basically people are gonna get hurt whatever option you choose. If you have to choose between saving people right now or saving people later on, is any of those really wrong?
TheRealArtemis
Profile Joined October 2011
687 Posts
October 31 2011 16:29 GMT
#85
Wow. Stading up to a drug cartal, threatening to give information about the members. Have they even thought this through? Dont they understand those kind of people have the resources to find them? I mean, its a frigin drug cartal, if they actually piss them off. They are dead. The cartal might not care about that piece of information that might get leaked, but if they do...
religion is like a prison for the seekers of wisdom
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 16:37:06
October 31 2011 16:34 GMT
#86
On November 01 2011 01:28 Paperplane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 01:04 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On November 01 2011 00:59 Paperplane wrote:
This debate has come up a million times and I just find it very interesting.
It's quite similar to do you give in to the demands of criminals who take hostages? If you do you might save lives that moment, but more people will take hostages because it works. And vice versa if you don't give em what they want.

Neither is right or wrong but I love pretending to be all philosophical sometimes.


There's a huge difference though between vigilantes fighting only with the internet and professional SWAT teams or military forces trained to deal with such encounters.

If you love pretending to be all philosophical, you'd have no problem explaining why neither is right or wrong though in the case of negotiating with criminals in hostage situations.


Because you're choosing between minimizing short term damage at the cost of more long term damage or less long term damage at the cost of more short term damage.

Basically people are gonna get hurt whatever option you choose. If you have to choose between saving people right now or saving people later on, is any of those really wrong?


Problem is, you're assuming what Anon is doing is minimizing long term damage. They're way in over their heads here and I think they could just end up causing damage - both long term and short term, but I hope I'm wrong.

Yes I do think in most cases, maybe not all, that one choice will be the better choice. Odds are though that the better choice will most likely not be obvious to us at the time.

I think in a hostage situation, it's definitely a possibility that no one gets hurt besides the criminals, but like I said that's where specialists/SWAT come in, not internet threats.
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
October 31 2011 16:36 GMT
#87
On October 31 2011 18:38 ryanAnger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 18:21 Mjolnir wrote:

4. As per 3, how long have they had it and not done anything with it (i.e. inform Police/whatever)?



The cops are probably corrupt, and the Mexican Feds are having a hard enough time dealing with the cartels as is. They wouldn't be resourceful enough to effectively go after the people on the list.

It seems a hell of a lot easier to just pit the rival cartels against each other so they kill each other. And yeah, I know they already do this, but it would get done a lot quicker with personal information available on the LZ.

Yeah lets have a wikipedia article on every cartel with full list of names and home adreses
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
October 31 2011 16:37 GMT
#88
Ah, the anons strike once more! Was a 'fan' *ehem* of them when they decided to help libyans take down gadaffi.

Do not under estimate the anonymous. If they have the means to crack down a government syndicate with ease, drug cartels are nothing to them.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
October 31 2011 16:37 GMT
#89
Batman.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Windd
Profile Joined May 2010
United States161 Posts
October 31 2011 16:39 GMT
#90
Apparently anon Anonymous has canceled the operation although a splinter group assuming the name #opcartel is still going to do something
http://jeffreycarr.blogspot.com/2011/10/open-source-analysis-of-anonymous-los.html
And other sources found via google.
"I interviewed the sun, he said the future's lookin' bright, I interviewed the rain, he claimed the sun's truly an *******, I'was suposed to interview the snow today but of course he flaked, So I let my frigid demeanor teeter and take his vacant place" AR
Sgonzo
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada202 Posts
October 31 2011 16:40 GMT
#91
hahaha libya was gaurunteed to fall, gaddahafi tried to raise oil prices dont bring anonymous into this without any citation and say they are great freedom fighters it seems to me this whole thing is very selfish so they go against the cartels when a protestor supposivley with them is taken well what about for the last 10 years the thousands of bodies being buried in shallow graves in the desert didnt matter then? this is more then likely publicity grab in order to get there name back on peoples lips before 5th of novemeber or just a childish act to make it seem like your doing good
When Keepin It Real Goes Wrong
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
October 31 2011 16:44 GMT
#92
These guys seem to be reading too many comic books, taking down the second most dangerous drug cartel in Mexico who have countless corrupt Police and ex-government officials is just insane.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
October 31 2011 16:49 GMT
#93
On November 01 2011 01:39 Windd wrote:
Apparently anon Anonymous has canceled the operation although a splinter group assuming the name #opcartel is still going to do something
http://jeffreycarr.blogspot.com/2011/10/open-source-analysis-of-anonymous-los.html
And other sources found via google.


What a surprise.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
October 31 2011 17:06 GMT
#94
sabu from antisec is involved.

I expect a lot from this guy. He has earned my respect for his abilities.

I expect a HUGE amount of support from the south american hacking communities.

Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
October 31 2011 17:12 GMT
#95
lol fucking with los zetas? a good way to get people killed, including yourself =/
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
Macabre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1262 Posts
October 31 2011 17:24 GMT
#96
Oh boy here we go.


They plan to fuck with facebook on the 5th of November too. Too much strange shit going on right now with Anon/OWS, and the government overall. ~_~
Those who know how to think need no teachers. Tasteless - I think I'll take my shirt off and let my muscles do the casting
Myrista
Profile Joined October 2011
United States32 Posts
October 31 2011 18:01 GMT
#97
/b/ is going a lot of good for themselves lately.
I don't agree with EVERYTHING they've done as some of it gives a bad name to 4chan as a whole for some reason (whenever /b/ does something all of 4chan gets blamed and I'm tired of being called a "sick disgusting pedophile" or something of the sort when all I go is go to /v/ and /g/) but it's nice to see a lot of people share a common goal and work together to make their goal come to fruition.

I hope this goes well.
Moa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States790 Posts
October 31 2011 18:05 GMT
#98
Playing with fire. I hope this ends well, I doubt it will.
^O^
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
October 31 2011 18:09 GMT
#99
Lol do they really know who they're fucking with?
o choro é livre
wDDelete
Profile Joined March 2011
103 Posts
October 31 2011 18:13 GMT
#100
All I know is something has to be done about the cartels. That shits gone way too far.
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