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How much are you working? If you had just posted pages ago that you work full time and go to classes it would be understandable why you don't think it's easy to meet people at uni.
More money doesn't help you meet more people. As far as I know you haven't advanced the argument that it's hard to date when you have no money.
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Talking about how busy you are is gross for a host of reasons. It's contextual and some reasons may only partially apply.
Oftentimes it's a way of crassly asserting importance. I am so important because I am needed all the time by so many people.
In that vein it's also often a proxy for worth. It doesn't take an especially perspicacious individual to see that many people measure their self worth in busyness. So when they talk about how busy they are they are baring their gnarled neurotic soul, looking for public validation and affirmation.
It's often a public admission of an existential need to be distracted from introspection, solitude, or thinking too hard about what one is doing or why one is doing it. They are terrified of not being busy.
Then there's the striving, vainglorious aspect of it, usually centered around money, but sometimes around power. Busyness is not just a proxy for, but is identical with work product. Actual contribution pales in comparison to perceptions of busyness and so busyness becomes the only arena that matters in competition.
Of course there's also the "good worker" undercurrent. The good worker does what his employer asks of him. He is profitable. He not only doesn't complain, but delights in extra work to please his bosses.
It's one thing to acknowledge busyness. Planning requires it. Sometimes it is a necessary fact of life. It's the busyness qua busyness that I'm talking about.
Taking pride in busyness is the refuge of simple thinkers. A need for busyness is a pathology.
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Igne's just mad cuz he ain't busy........
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On January 30 2016 18:07 LemOn wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2016 23:04 QuanticHawk wrote:On January 27 2016 06:45 LemOn wrote:
yeah would be fun.
Online dating is a game of numbers - you ask them out withing 3-4 messages and go on loads of dates, because the chemistry simply won't be there most of the time and online profiles are pretty much useless for that. So you can't be discouraged after 2 days off of it, I'd say if you go on 100 dates off of online dating, finding 5-10 girls with strong mutual chemistry is really good, and 1-2 that tick all your boxes for someone to get serious with if you're lucky if you're like me and don't want to compromise in major things.
So you haven't even tried really and are throwing in the towel - if you choose online dating you have to be prepared to play the numbers game and your sample size is more or less worthless. it's really no different than talking to anyone in person. you still know zero about the person. there is no greater or less chance for the chemistry to be there. the only difference is you get an instant answer if you muster up the balls to chat up someone, and youcan instantly suss out whether or not you like her personality. It's still very much a numbers game, and looks are still the #1 decider in whether you get past introducing yourself. You can very much go up to every girl in a bar and go home empty handed. On January 27 2016 06:57 LemOn wrote:
To add this is why I think it's a waste of time and IRL talking to real people is so much more effective.
And to IRL - why would you go on dates when there's not the mutual chemistry you're looking for in the first place? You should pick up on that in the 5-10 minutes when you're talking to them first no if you choose the honest approach.
no different than messaging/texting for a while online before meeting, and if anything, the person will typically post a profile or answer questions that allows you to suss out things you don't like as to not even waste your time. On January 28 2016 05:33 JoeCool wrote:
So my best advice is, chill out and relax! Live a healthy life, meet people, make new friends and learn to love yourself for what you are! And the most important thing: Be happy with or without a woman. And then, dating women will become much, much, much easier. :-) yup 100% also re phontos being everything online, depends on the medium. tinder = club where you can't hear, 100% photos okc and the like = bar where you can talk a little, physical attraction still matters just like at a real bar, but you have an opportunity to preemptively show your personality before ever being messaged 1) There's no need to text, especially if you met someone in real life besides a couple text per week to set up a date. But phoning's just so much better. 2) You can play the numbers way faster. IRL you can have a chat with what - 10-20 people per hour? And you spend say 20-60 minutes travelling to the mall/club/social event. And with mutual chemistry and attraction being by far more important than anything else, you find out instantly. You're right about the other stuff - you can see their interests etc. before you meet them I still think going on a date with a person you've already met and see that you click and are attracted to each other will be worth 4-5 dates from online dating where you've read about the characteristics the person't put out there about themselves. 3) Realistically, how long do you spend on swiping/writing rewriting profile, looking at other girls profiles and crafting messages then responding to get one date? Because it was a lot of time and attention when I did it, and unlike real life conversations where you meet new friends, improve your confidence and social skills it's pretty much a waste of time. When if you go out, you can go out with the goal of approaching 10 (20,30) strangers with an open mind and when you're done you're done. And those that you do take out will be quality "leads" with potential. Also you can get way better girls in real life once you get comfortable than online - with average looks and build if you're comfortable with yourself you can get stunning girls where they wouldn't give you their time of the day even as your looks and online persona is all they can judge you on. So for guys that want to date georgeous looking girls but don't have a model physique and looks themselves like me it's pretty much the only option that's why I'm defending real life interactions so fiercely and am totally biased :D
people aren't blind though. if you're buzzing around the bar talking to everyone with a pulse and a vagina, guys and gals will know what you are up to. I used to hang with someone who did this every damn time we were out, and it was infuriating to our friends, and annoying/obvious to his marks.
On January 31 2016 04:13 IgnE wrote:
How much are you working? If you had just posted pages ago that you work full time and go to classes it would be understandable why you don't think it's easy to meet people at uni.
More money doesn't help you meet more people. As far as I know you haven't advanced the argument that it's hard to date when you have no money.
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Talking about how busy you are is gross for a host of reasons. It's contextual and some reasons may only partially apply.
Oftentimes it's a way of crassly asserting importance. I am so important because I am needed all the time by so many people.
In that vein it's also often a proxy for worth. It doesn't take an especially perspicacious individual to see that many people measure their self worth in busyness. So when they talk about how busy they are they are baring their gnarled neurotic soul, looking for public validation and affirmation.
It's often a public admission of an existential need to be distracted from introspection, solitude, or thinking too hard about what one is doing or why one is doing it. They are terrified of not being busy.
Then there's the striving, vainglorious aspect of it, usually centered around money, but sometimes around power. Busyness is not just a proxy for, but is identical with work product. Actual contribution pales in comparison to perceptions of busyness and so busyness becomes the only arena that matters in competition.
Of course there's also the "good worker" undercurrent. The good worker does what his employer asks of him. He is profitable. He not only doesn't complain, but delights in extra work to please his bosses.
It's one thing to acknowledge busyness. Planning requires it. Sometimes it is a necessary fact of life. It's the busyness qua busyness that I'm talking about.
Taking pride in busyness is the refuge of simple thinkers. A need for busyness is a pathology.
I believe the kids call this savage these days
anyone who says they are too busy to date is either a liar, are what igne says, or they're just really shitty at planning out their week. either way, i assume this is all 30 and under hear. if anyone 30 and under is saying that to you run for hte hills. what the fuck are they going to do when you have a family?
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Wow. Just read all the replies re: university students in male-dominated faculties having trouble dating.
It's really all about priorities isn't it?
You have 168 hrs in a week. So complaining that you study 50 hrs, and work 30 hrs, and sleep 56 hrs (realistically probably less) still leaves you with 32 hrs to do as you wish. Whether you're willing to invest that into your current/future relationships or not is really up to you.
Realistically, if you have the time to read TL and check out the dating thread you probably have time to invest into meeting people for relationships. And also if you are really that time-poor (i.e. 0 free time) then meeting people will achieve absolutely nothing because you're probably not going to have the time/energy to create and maintain a functional relationship anyway?
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I think the biggest problem most of you guys are making is looking at the issues separately. Sure, having a lot of work is no issue when dating if you're serious about it, no question. But combine that with a whole bunch of other issues and dating suddenly becomes a whole lot harder. Not much time, spending most of your day with nothing but guys, and not having a good place to actively meet new people makes meeting girls extremely difficult. Combine that with not being extremely outgoing or not having a great opener or whatever effectively takes your success rate down to 0. Like I said, any one of these problems aren't insurmountable, but when you combine them all it becomes much more difficult.
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On February 01 2016 00:31 QuanticHawk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 18:07 LemOn wrote:On January 28 2016 23:04 QuanticHawk wrote:On January 27 2016 06:45 LemOn wrote:
yeah would be fun.
Online dating is a game of numbers - you ask them out withing 3-4 messages and go on loads of dates, because the chemistry simply won't be there most of the time and online profiles are pretty much useless for that. So you can't be discouraged after 2 days off of it, I'd say if you go on 100 dates off of online dating, finding 5-10 girls with strong mutual chemistry is really good, and 1-2 that tick all your boxes for someone to get serious with if you're lucky if you're like me and don't want to compromise in major things.
So you haven't even tried really and are throwing in the towel - if you choose online dating you have to be prepared to play the numbers game and your sample size is more or less worthless. it's really no different than talking to anyone in person. you still know zero about the person. there is no greater or less chance for the chemistry to be there. the only difference is you get an instant answer if you muster up the balls to chat up someone, and youcan instantly suss out whether or not you like her personality. It's still very much a numbers game, and looks are still the #1 decider in whether you get past introducing yourself. You can very much go up to every girl in a bar and go home empty handed. On January 27 2016 06:57 LemOn wrote:
To add this is why I think it's a waste of time and IRL talking to real people is so much more effective.
And to IRL - why would you go on dates when there's not the mutual chemistry you're looking for in the first place? You should pick up on that in the 5-10 minutes when you're talking to them first no if you choose the honest approach.
no different than messaging/texting for a while online before meeting, and if anything, the person will typically post a profile or answer questions that allows you to suss out things you don't like as to not even waste your time. On January 28 2016 05:33 JoeCool wrote:
So my best advice is, chill out and relax! Live a healthy life, meet people, make new friends and learn to love yourself for what you are! And the most important thing: Be happy with or without a woman. And then, dating women will become much, much, much easier. :-) yup 100% also re phontos being everything online, depends on the medium. tinder = club where you can't hear, 100% photos okc and the like = bar where you can talk a little, physical attraction still matters just like at a real bar, but you have an opportunity to preemptively show your personality before ever being messaged 1) There's no need to text, especially if you met someone in real life besides a couple text per week to set up a date. But phoning's just so much better. 2) You can play the numbers way faster. IRL you can have a chat with what - 10-20 people per hour? And you spend say 20-60 minutes travelling to the mall/club/social event. And with mutual chemistry and attraction being by far more important than anything else, you find out instantly. You're right about the other stuff - you can see their interests etc. before you meet them I still think going on a date with a person you've already met and see that you click and are attracted to each other will be worth 4-5 dates from online dating where you've read about the characteristics the person't put out there about themselves. 3) Realistically, how long do you spend on swiping/writing rewriting profile, looking at other girls profiles and crafting messages then responding to get one date? Because it was a lot of time and attention when I did it, and unlike real life conversations where you meet new friends, improve your confidence and social skills it's pretty much a waste of time. When if you go out, you can go out with the goal of approaching 10 (20,30) strangers with an open mind and when you're done you're done. And those that you do take out will be quality "leads" with potential. Also you can get way better girls in real life once you get comfortable than online - with average looks and build if you're comfortable with yourself you can get stunning girls where they wouldn't give you their time of the day even as your looks and online persona is all they can judge you on. So for guys that want to date georgeous looking girls but don't have a model physique and looks themselves like me it's pretty much the only option that's why I'm defending real life interactions so fiercely and am totally biased :D people aren't blind though. if you're buzzing around the bar talking to everyone with a pulse and a vagina, guys and gals will know what you are up to. I used to hang with someone who did this every damn time we were out, and it was infuriating to our friends, and annoying/obvious to his marks.
Nothing else to say but that he was doing it wrong ofcourse.
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On February 01 2016 06:00 westgun wrote:
I think the biggest problem most of you guys are making is looking at the issues separately. Sure, having a lot of work is no issue when dating if you're serious about it, no question. But combine that with a whole bunch of other issues and dating suddenly becomes a whole lot harder. Not much time, spending most of your day with nothing but guys, and not having a good place to actively meet new people makes meeting girls extremely difficult. Combine that with not being extremely outgoing or not having a great opener or whatever effectively takes your success rate down to 0. Like I said, any one of these problems aren't insurmountable, but when you combine them all it becomes much more difficult.
Difficult in terms of effort and actual time spent? No, hardly ever. Difficult from the point of having to break your comfort levels and conquer your fears? Absolutely. Unless you live in a really small isolated town. But if you live in a city, a good place is the street, public transport, shops, library, and events and social places that are surely present.
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On February 01 2016 05:06 Yoz wrote:
Wow. Just read all the replies re: university students in male-dominated faculties having trouble dating.
It's really all about priorities isn't it?
You have 168 hrs in a week. So complaining that you study 50 hrs, and work 30 hrs, and sleep 56 hrs (realistically probably less) still leaves you with 32 hrs to do as you wish. Whether you're willing to invest that into your current/future relationships or not is really up to you.
Realistically, if you have the time to read TL and check out the dating thread you probably have time to invest into meeting people for relationships. And also if you are really that time-poor (i.e. 0 free time) then meeting people will achieve absolutely nothing because you're probably not going to have the time/energy to create and maintain a functional relationship anyway?
Yup, agreed.
People keep telling me they have no time to do something something. I chase tv shows/manga/anime, i play dota, i go concert/rave at least once a month, i go away almost every month, i write, i do running and do gym, and go out at least 1 or 2 nights per week and i am in my late 20s. I am very selective at doing stuffs ie i have strict principles on doing my hobbies, choosing what kind of venue/people to hang out, planning on how to efficiently do everything else.
For study wise, think back of my student days, i cannot understand how people calculate their work by hours haha, some subjects i get it quicker or slower but i will make sure i get them prepared for exams so i never calculate hours, and then i go out when i need to (friends or for girl). I mean, if you are not making the best dating (or casual) experience when you are a student, trust me you will never be able to have a better period of life to do so. Well, unless you become a millionaire someday but still it wouldn't be the same.
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On February 01 2016 07:59 BurningSera wrote:
For study wise, think back of my student days, i cannot understand how people calculate their work by hours haha, some subjects i get it quicker or slower but i will make sure i get them prepared for exams so i never calculate hours, and then i go out when i need to (friends or for girl). I mean, if you are not making the best dating (or casual) experience when you are a student, trust me you will never be able to have a better period of life to do so. Well, unless you become a millionaire someday but still it wouldn't be the same.
It's somewhat true although I think a lot of the time it's a hindsight thing because university aged males are often too shy to take advantage of it. And then looking back you realise how easy it would have been if you had been a little more confident and bolder.
Interesting question to those complaining about being time-poor and stuck in male-dominated faculties...
What if a person was here complaining about being in a female-dominated faculty and ended up going on so many dates that he was failing his course because he had no time to study? All his time was being spent working casually to go on dates and/or going on the dates themselves?
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On February 01 2016 11:20 Yoz wrote:
What if a person was here complaining about being in a female-dominated faculty and ended up going on so many dates that he was failing his course because he had no time to study? All his time was being spent working casually to go on dates and/or going on the dates themselves?
Bad analogy. Dating is optional, working if you depend on that income and finishing your courses because can’t risk taking any longer than needed because of your financial situation/whatever is not. Not sure if westgun is in such a situation though.
Again, I am not complaining that I can’t find any dates since I am not into that at the moment, but I can definitely say that If I would, university wouldn’t enhance my chances by any bit. I actually would have better chances at work.
About priorities: There are things you want to/really want which you have to schedule. Unfortunately there are things you have to do and those have per default the highest priority, often even dictating when to do them (work for example. Getting food). Currently, my only regular activities are gaming and martial arts. Gaming is almost gone despite occasionally filling small 1h holes in my schedule (in which you can’t do much else) and martial arts/working out takes place around 9PM – 1PM midweek depending on when I finish work/have to get up the next day. Another timeslot that couldn’t really be used otherwise. Weekends get consumed by university since midweek there isn’t much time. Replacing working out with studying doesn’t work since I am mentally completely drained after those long days.
And since I am not trying to get dates, I also can assert my situation without the temptation to justify not having dates. It just sucks, but it will get better. I know this might be a special case, but you don’t need to be that loaded to be in a similar positon, therefore I still defend westguns point. Uni isn’t always a good place, just like work isn’t when you don’t have contact to any potential partners there and most people are equally busy. I agree though that it has one of the biggest potentials to be a good one.
Inb4 “but you find time to post on tl, duh”: Yes. You need to take short breaks in which you easily can go on TL and post something. Studied, had an exam, studied again, had another exam, came back home to studied again. Now I am sitting here, try to relax and not think about the fact that the next exam is in a little more than 30min and it will probably my first failed exam and that there are still 2 to go this week. Next semester will be better though. Next semester is always better, at least that is what they say .
EDIT: Also I admit that this semester is exceptionally bad.
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It sounds to me like a case of "there's no time to date when working all week and taking classes on the weekend."
Usually saying "uni is the best place to meet people" isn't just referring to the physical space of the university; it's referring to the whole experience of being a full time student on a university campus who either doesn't work or works only part time.
I do have to say that I am even more confused about your notions of "getting paid" and all that if you are working so much.
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On February 01 2016 07:26 LemOn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2016 00:31 QuanticHawk wrote:On January 30 2016 18:07 LemOn wrote:On January 28 2016 23:04 QuanticHawk wrote:On January 27 2016 06:45 LemOn wrote:
yeah would be fun.
Online dating is a game of numbers - you ask them out withing 3-4 messages and go on loads of dates, because the chemistry simply won't be there most of the time and online profiles are pretty much useless for that. So you can't be discouraged after 2 days off of it, I'd say if you go on 100 dates off of online dating, finding 5-10 girls with strong mutual chemistry is really good, and 1-2 that tick all your boxes for someone to get serious with if you're lucky if you're like me and don't want to compromise in major things.
So you haven't even tried really and are throwing in the towel - if you choose online dating you have to be prepared to play the numbers game and your sample size is more or less worthless. it's really no different than talking to anyone in person. you still know zero about the person. there is no greater or less chance for the chemistry to be there. the only difference is you get an instant answer if you muster up the balls to chat up someone, and youcan instantly suss out whether or not you like her personality. It's still very much a numbers game, and looks are still the #1 decider in whether you get past introducing yourself. You can very much go up to every girl in a bar and go home empty handed. On January 27 2016 06:57 LemOn wrote:
To add this is why I think it's a waste of time and IRL talking to real people is so much more effective.
And to IRL - why would you go on dates when there's not the mutual chemistry you're looking for in the first place? You should pick up on that in the 5-10 minutes when you're talking to them first no if you choose the honest approach.
no different than messaging/texting for a while online before meeting, and if anything, the person will typically post a profile or answer questions that allows you to suss out things you don't like as to not even waste your time. On January 28 2016 05:33 JoeCool wrote:
So my best advice is, chill out and relax! Live a healthy life, meet people, make new friends and learn to love yourself for what you are! And the most important thing: Be happy with or without a woman. And then, dating women will become much, much, much easier. :-) yup 100% also re phontos being everything online, depends on the medium. tinder = club where you can't hear, 100% photos okc and the like = bar where you can talk a little, physical attraction still matters just like at a real bar, but you have an opportunity to preemptively show your personality before ever being messaged 1) There's no need to text, especially if you met someone in real life besides a couple text per week to set up a date. But phoning's just so much better. 2) You can play the numbers way faster. IRL you can have a chat with what - 10-20 people per hour? And you spend say 20-60 minutes travelling to the mall/club/social event. And with mutual chemistry and attraction being by far more important than anything else, you find out instantly. You're right about the other stuff - you can see their interests etc. before you meet them I still think going on a date with a person you've already met and see that you click and are attracted to each other will be worth 4-5 dates from online dating where you've read about the characteristics the person't put out there about themselves. 3) Realistically, how long do you spend on swiping/writing rewriting profile, looking at other girls profiles and crafting messages then responding to get one date? Because it was a lot of time and attention when I did it, and unlike real life conversations where you meet new friends, improve your confidence and social skills it's pretty much a waste of time. When if you go out, you can go out with the goal of approaching 10 (20,30) strangers with an open mind and when you're done you're done. And those that you do take out will be quality "leads" with potential. Also you can get way better girls in real life once you get comfortable than online - with average looks and build if you're comfortable with yourself you can get stunning girls where they wouldn't give you their time of the day even as your looks and online persona is all they can judge you on. So for guys that want to date georgeous looking girls but don't have a model physique and looks themselves like me it's pretty much the only option that's why I'm defending real life interactions so fiercely and am totally biased :D people aren't blind though. if you're buzzing around the bar talking to everyone with a pulse and a vagina, guys and gals will know what you are up to. I used to hang with someone who did this every damn time we were out, and it was infuriating to our friends, and annoying/obvious to his marks. Nothing else to say but that he was doing it wrong ofcourse.
the guy was a mook but i've seen that play out that way with much more savy and attractive people as well (and it's extra hilarious when someone calls them out on it). That really quickly goes from oh this guy is so confident and attractive he's just the life of the party to hmm yeah any port in a storm I guess. People can sense when you're systematically trying to talk to every gal using rehearsed stuff.
don't disagree that if your strength is personality you wanna get talking right away though.
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On February 01 2016 21:26 IgnE wrote:
It sounds to me like a case of "there's no time to date when working all week and taking classes on the weekend."
Usually saying "uni is the best place to meet people" isn't just referring to the physical space of the university; it's referring to the whole experience of being a full time student on a university campus who either doesn't work or works only part time.
I do have to say that I am even more confused about your notions of "getting paid" and all that if you are working so much.
I don’t work that much, probably 17 hours a week at max, currently a bit less. Getting paid well (for a student) and it is a very good reference. Currently I make some more then I need to since they need me for x amounts of hours minimum so I am making some bank at the moment which will benefit me next semester where I most likely will become tutor in one lab which is way less stressful and you can do stuff while you are there.
University actually takes the bigger chunk of my time, especially since we have all sorts of assignments for which you have to go to the lab to test things properly, and it does take quite some time, since the labs close around 19:30/are occupied around morning/noon I have to go to work late sometimes. Or I work earlier but have to stay in the lab longer then. Or I have to go to the library (which is dedicated entirely to my subject and math) etc. The weekends I spend mostly on going over what happened in the lectures that week since I don’t have time during the week.
But even if I was less occupied, rate of female is terrible low in my subject. The only people I met regularly that aren’t in the same faculty are math students and electrical engineering. Next faculty takes a moment at foot and its mechanical engineering + some other engineering-stuff. As I said, even if I would be on the look, this university with my current subject wouldn’t be any help, but I understand that this is a rare case since my last university was totally different, even if I hadn’t studied teaching back then. As I said previously, this is not me complaining about my situation, this is me complaining that people vastly dismiss that such a situation even exists. Studying computer science/electrical engineering/math at this university means that a female encounter is more likely to be just someone who is passing by(not even a student) then an fellow student and you have to walk a bit to get into more female-populated territory(where the ratio still sucks, it just sucks less). The design-stuff where the ratios are more even is even on a different campus :D. The more I think about it, I come to the conclusion that this might be planned lol.
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Well at my university there are a lot of female math students, hot ones too.
And a quick google search spit out percentages up to 48% females, and up to 40% if you dont count future teachers.
Is it that much different in other countrys?
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On February 02 2016 01:12 Snotling wrote:
Well at my university there are a lot of female math students, hot ones too.
And a quick google search spit out percentages up to 48% females, and up to 40% if you dont count future teachers.
Is it that much different in other countrys?
I think from my experiences in American schools it's more like 25% female math majors.
What's wrong with being a future teacher? 
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I think his point was that teachers are more likely to be female than male, thus if you remove the teachers, the percentages drop, but still remain high.
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On February 02 2016 04:19 Ghostcom wrote:
I think his point was that teachers are more likely to be female than male, thus if you remove the teachers, the percentages drop, but still remain high.
Ah, fair enough 
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On February 01 2016 20:42 waffelz wrote:
Bad analogy. Dating is optional, working if you depend on that income and finishing your courses because can’t risk taking any longer than needed because of your financial situation/whatever is not. Not sure if westgun is in such a situation though.
Is it really that bad an analogy? Cos isn't everything essentially optional.
Unsure of anyone who is throwing that much time/work into a course just to pass it rather than ace it. And if your aim is to ace it then it's really your priorities being more geared towards study/work than dating - which is fine but this becomes essentially a choice rather than a complete lack of opportunity.
My point was moreso that most people here complaining about a lack of girls in their faculty seem the type that would easily tell a party-person to stop partying so hard and study harder to improve their grades. Yet when it's suggested they change their priorities at all (to meet more girls) it's completely absurd.
Just the simple fact you view dating as completely optional and a strong career as a necessity kinda illustrates my point though - because I am sure the party-person going on a billion dates sees their strong social life as a necessity and perfect grades as entirely optional.
If your circumstances are that bad does it mean that nobody in your course has met a girlfriend this year? And nobody in the course has time for a girlfriend? O.oa
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On February 02 2016 03:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2016 01:12 Snotling wrote:
Well at my university there are a lot of female math students, hot ones too.
And a quick google search spit out percentages up to 48% females, and up to 40% if you dont count future teachers.
Is it that much different in other countrys? What's wrong with being a future teacher?
Isn't the question more "What's wrong with dating a future teacher?" xD
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On February 02 2016 09:22 Yoz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2016 03:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On February 02 2016 01:12 Snotling wrote:
Well at my university there are a lot of female math students, hot ones too.
And a quick google search spit out percentages up to 48% females, and up to 40% if you dont count future teachers.
Is it that much different in other countrys? What's wrong with being a future teacher? Isn't the question more "What's wrong with dating a future teacher?" xD
That too haha
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