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if you can't even go on two dates without them ending awkwardly, how the hell do you expect to keep hitting it. you don't even know how to relax around her and more importantly get her relaxed around you. i think you're giving off desperation vibes and this friend/relationship is fucked atm. don't put much more stock in it and just do you like hawk says.
On January 16 2016 09:13 GoTuNk! wrote: Huh I need advice... I tought I knew everything up to this point. Context: I own and train everyday on my crossfit gym.
What's the question - you're the big boss, no need to read further. Just tell them that, get laid in the showers immediately.
On January 16 2016 09:13 GoTuNk! wrote: Huh I need advice... I tought I knew everything up to this point.
Context: I own and train everyday on my crossfit gym. Girl, named Ana also trains there.
I met ana roughly 1.5 years ago, asked her out, we had an awkward date and so was it. I met my ex-gf, we were a couple for like 9 months, who was friends with ana and me during the relationship. Ana and my ex-gf became best girlfriends for a while, but don't talk anymore.
We have a 2nd date with ana (LOL) and again ends awkwardly. She doesn't talk to me for like 2 months.
She randomly starts chatting with me like a month ago. We talk a bit when we see at the gym, and she shows up to the new year party I was (she almost never drinks or goes out) and we kiss and spend the party together. Same saturday, we stay alone and the gym and get pretty close to sex. Next monday she tells me she's "never done it" with anyone before and that's why she was nervous, etc (she just wanted to tell me). Next saturday we stayed alone again and I took her V; sex was pretty good, moaning and hitting on the back. Tuesday we have a lame discussion, and wednesday she messages me and says she wants to break up; I told her it's ok but she should tell me in person.
I assumed she was gonna back down, but she told me she just wants to be friends like before. WTF. What girl loses her virginity and then says she wants to be just friends? I feel like a used peace of meat
I was never with a virgin, high five! :D
All seems pretty standard, her being nervous is normal. And who know what's going through her head... Maybe she thinks you do it with all girls, her knowing your ex, another guy's in the picture, she's testing you... yada yada.
The point is doesn't and shouldn't matter to you in terms of how you act. Only thing I'd handle differently is this:
I told her it's ok but she should tell me in person.
Not sure why you'd go the complicated/potential drama/deep conversation road when you just had sex once. Especially coming from you I'd expect the only right way to handle this imo which is saying what you want and giving her space. Her "Breaking Up with you" is really cute after a couple dates and I wouldn't look much into it she obviously has a lot to sort through.
It's normal she will act strangely from an experienced guys point of view, if you care about the girl you have to be the one who cools everything down and brings stability and clear direction. "Well that's up to you girly, but I'm crazy into you and friendship just won't do so hit me up if you change your mind and we'll do something fun, you know where to find me!"
On January 16 2016 09:13 GoTuNk! wrote: Huh I need advice... I tought I knew everything up to this point.
Context: I own and train everyday on my crossfit gym. Girl, named Ana also trains there.
I met ana roughly 1.5 years ago, asked her out, we had an awkward date and so was it. I met my ex-gf, we were a couple for like 9 months, who was friends with ana and me during the relationship. Ana and my ex-gf became best girlfriends for a while, but don't talk anymore.
We have a 2nd date with ana (LOL) and again ends awkwardly. She doesn't talk to me for like 2 months.
She randomly starts chatting with me like a month ago. We talk a bit when we see at the gym, and she shows up to the new year party I was (she almost never drinks or goes out) and we kiss and spend the party together. Same saturday, we stay alone and the gym and get pretty close to sex. Next monday she tells me she's "never done it" with anyone before and that's why she was nervous, etc (she just wanted to tell me). Next saturday we stayed alone again and I took her V; sex was pretty good, moaning and hitting on the back. Tuesday we have a lame discussion, and wednesday she messages me and says she wants to break up; I told her it's ok but she should tell me in person.
I assumed she was gonna back down, but she told me she just wants to be friends like before. WTF. What girl loses her virginity and then says she wants to be just friends? I feel like a used peace of meat
I was never with a virgin, high five! :D
All seems pretty standard, her being nervous is normal. And who know what's going through her head... Maybe she thinks you do it with all girls, her knowing your ex, another guy's in the picture, she's testing you... yada yada.
The point is doesn't and shouldn't matter to you in terms of how you act. Only thing I'd handle differently is this:
I told her it's ok but she should tell me in person.
Not sure why you'd go the complicated/potential drama/deep conversation road when you just had sex once. Especially coming from you I'd expect the only right way to handle this imo which is saying what you want and giving her space. Her "Breaking Up with you" is really cute after a couple dates and I wouldn't look much into it she obviously has a lot to sort through.
It's normal she will act strangely from an experienced guys point of view, if you care about the girl you have to be the one who cools everything down and brings stability and clear direction. "Well that's up to you girly, but I'm crazy into you and friendship just won't do so hit me up if you change your mind and we'll do something fun, you know where to find me!"
I have a nack for telling the new ones. Sex at the gym was my other pending fantasy >
I did do pretty much what you said in person, it just seemed awkward to me over the phone; the exact words were "ok but that's the kind of thing you say in person" and she brought it up and I said what you said basically. We didn't just "have sex" we did coupley stuff (extra talk, hold hands) But yeah, act like nothing happened and continue with life. Hit on her if possible cause I like her. I did talk to her a bit today while resting and she seemed warm about it? Crazy bitches be crazy.
On January 18 2016 11:41 IgnE wrote: Sorry, "extra talk" and "holding hands" does not not make it casual.
I also find it hard to believe that the sex was good with a virgin.
I said it wasn't casual, it was 100% relationship vibe. Unlike my previous experience with virgins, it was. Too explicit to say online; 100% sure she enjoyed it. Unless she made up the whole thing, which is really really doubt lol.
Just talk to her about it. Be like 'Yo girl, I feel (insert emotion) about you. & I want you to know that that meant a lot to me the other night, & I want to see you again. How do you feel about us?'
On January 19 2016 02:40 ragnasaur wrote: Just talk to her about it. Be like 'Yo girl, I feel (insert emotion) about you. & I want you to know that that meant a lot to me the other night, & I want to see you again. How do you feel about us?'
On January 17 2016 11:11 LemOn wrote: Meh Okay I'll bite
On January 16 2016 09:13 GoTuNk! wrote: Huh I need advice... I tought I knew everything up to this point.
Context: I own and train everyday on my crossfit gym. Girl, named Ana also trains there.
I met ana roughly 1.5 years ago, asked her out, we had an awkward date and so was it. I met my ex-gf, we were a couple for like 9 months, who was friends with ana and me during the relationship. Ana and my ex-gf became best girlfriends for a while, but don't talk anymore.
We have a 2nd date with ana (LOL) and again ends awkwardly. She doesn't talk to me for like 2 months.
She randomly starts chatting with me like a month ago. We talk a bit when we see at the gym, and she shows up to the new year party I was (she almost never drinks or goes out) and we kiss and spend the party together. Same saturday, we stay alone and the gym and get pretty close to sex. Next monday she tells me she's "never done it" with anyone before and that's why she was nervous, etc (she just wanted to tell me). Next saturday we stayed alone again and I took her V; sex was pretty good, moaning and hitting on the back. Tuesday we have a lame discussion, and wednesday she messages me and says she wants to break up; I told her it's ok but she should tell me in person.
I assumed she was gonna back down, but she told me she just wants to be friends like before. WTF. What girl loses her virginity and then says she wants to be just friends? I feel like a used peace of meat
I was never with a virgin, high five! :D
All seems pretty standard, her being nervous is normal. And who know what's going through her head... Maybe she thinks you do it with all girls, her knowing your ex, another guy's in the picture, she's testing you... yada yada.
The point is doesn't and shouldn't matter to you in terms of how you act. Only thing I'd handle differently is this:
I told her it's ok but she should tell me in person.
Not sure why you'd go the complicated/potential drama/deep conversation road when you just had sex once. Especially coming from you I'd expect the only right way to handle this imo which is saying what you want and giving her space. Her "Breaking Up with you" is really cute after a couple dates and I wouldn't look much into it she obviously has a lot to sort through.
It's normal she will act strangely from an experienced guys point of view, if you care about the girl you have to be the one who cools everything down and brings stability and clear direction. "Well that's up to you girly, but I'm crazy into you and friendship just won't do so hit me up if you change your mind and we'll do something fun, you know where to find me!"
I have a nack for telling the new ones. Sex at the gym was my other pending fantasy >
I did do pretty much what you said in person, it just seemed awkward to me over the phone; the exact words were "ok but that's the kind of thing you say in person" and she brought it up and I said what you said basically. We didn't just "have sex" we did coupley stuff (extra talk, hold hands) But yeah, act like nothing happened and continue with life. Hit on her if possible cause I like her. I did talk to her a bit today while resting and she seemed warm about it? Crazy bitches be crazy.
Why do I have a feeling that if we have the information of how old you and the girl we would be easier to pinpoint a problem lol
And the story sounds like you dont like her that much anyway, if I were you I'd just be honest and ask her will she up for being just bang buddy
We hung out last night, for the first time in like 2 weeks. Besides walking her home from swing dancing. She was gone for a week, and then our schedules didn't match up for a little bit. Ended up going to her place and finished S1 of Buffy.
I felt that things where a little off, since I tried to be a little physical but wasn't really feeling it, so I just chalked it up to us not having seen each other in a while.
What was nice, is that while watching TV its kinda hard to talk about things. But there was like 20 minutes afterwards were we just talked. It kinda felt like our first real conversation, which I really enjoyed, and it continued into the car ride. Hugged her at the end, since I wasn't feeling the whole physical vibe from her.
Girls are confusing, but I think I'm in a good place?
On January 17 2016 11:11 LemOn wrote: Meh Okay I'll bite
On January 16 2016 09:13 GoTuNk! wrote: Huh I need advice... I tought I knew everything up to this point.
Context: I own and train everyday on my crossfit gym. Girl, named Ana also trains there.
I met ana roughly 1.5 years ago, asked her out, we had an awkward date and so was it. I met my ex-gf, we were a couple for like 9 months, who was friends with ana and me during the relationship. Ana and my ex-gf became best girlfriends for a while, but don't talk anymore.
We have a 2nd date with ana (LOL) and again ends awkwardly. She doesn't talk to me for like 2 months.
She randomly starts chatting with me like a month ago. We talk a bit when we see at the gym, and she shows up to the new year party I was (she almost never drinks or goes out) and we kiss and spend the party together. Same saturday, we stay alone and the gym and get pretty close to sex. Next monday she tells me she's "never done it" with anyone before and that's why she was nervous, etc (she just wanted to tell me). Next saturday we stayed alone again and I took her V; sex was pretty good, moaning and hitting on the back. Tuesday we have a lame discussion, and wednesday she messages me and says she wants to break up; I told her it's ok but she should tell me in person.
I assumed she was gonna back down, but she told me she just wants to be friends like before. WTF. What girl loses her virginity and then says she wants to be just friends? I feel like a used peace of meat
I was never with a virgin, high five! :D
All seems pretty standard, her being nervous is normal. And who know what's going through her head... Maybe she thinks you do it with all girls, her knowing your ex, another guy's in the picture, she's testing you... yada yada.
The point is doesn't and shouldn't matter to you in terms of how you act. Only thing I'd handle differently is this:
I told her it's ok but she should tell me in person.
Not sure why you'd go the complicated/potential drama/deep conversation road when you just had sex once. Especially coming from you I'd expect the only right way to handle this imo which is saying what you want and giving her space. Her "Breaking Up with you" is really cute after a couple dates and I wouldn't look much into it she obviously has a lot to sort through.
It's normal she will act strangely from an experienced guys point of view, if you care about the girl you have to be the one who cools everything down and brings stability and clear direction. "Well that's up to you girly, but I'm crazy into you and friendship just won't do so hit me up if you change your mind and we'll do something fun, you know where to find me!"
I have a nack for telling the new ones. Sex at the gym was my other pending fantasy >
I did do pretty much what you said in person, it just seemed awkward to me over the phone; the exact words were "ok but that's the kind of thing you say in person" and she brought it up and I said what you said basically. We didn't just "have sex" we did coupley stuff (extra talk, hold hands) But yeah, act like nothing happened and continue with life. Hit on her if possible cause I like her. I did talk to her a bit today while resting and she seemed warm about it? Crazy bitches be crazy.
Why do I have a feeling that if we have the information of how old you and the girl we would be easier to pinpoint a problem lol
And the story sounds like you dont like her that much anyway, if I were you I'd just be honest and ask her will she up for being just bang buddy
On January 19 2016 05:53 MysteryMeat1 wrote: So its a been while since I've updated.
We hung out last night, for the first time in like 2 weeks. Besides walking her home from swing dancing. She was gone for a week, and then our schedules didn't match up for a little bit. Ended up going to her place and finished S1 of Buffy.
I felt that things where a little off, since I tried to be a little physical but wasn't really feeling it, so I just chalked it up to us not having seen each other in a while.
What was nice, is that while watching TV its kinda hard to talk about things. But there was like 20 minutes afterwards were we just talked. It kinda felt like our first real conversation, which I really enjoyed, and it continued into the car ride. Hugged her at the end, since I wasn't feeling the whole physical vibe from her.
Girls are confusing, but I think I'm in a good place?
lower the volume so you can talk but TV's still easy to listen to ant the gradual physical push/pull away.
On January 17 2016 11:11 LemOn wrote: Meh Okay I'll bite
On January 16 2016 09:13 GoTuNk! wrote: Huh I need advice... I tought I knew everything up to this point.
Context: I own and train everyday on my crossfit gym. Girl, named Ana also trains there.
I met ana roughly 1.5 years ago, asked her out, we had an awkward date and so was it. I met my ex-gf, we were a couple for like 9 months, who was friends with ana and me during the relationship. Ana and my ex-gf became best girlfriends for a while, but don't talk anymore.
We have a 2nd date with ana (LOL) and again ends awkwardly. She doesn't talk to me for like 2 months.
She randomly starts chatting with me like a month ago. We talk a bit when we see at the gym, and she shows up to the new year party I was (she almost never drinks or goes out) and we kiss and spend the party together. Same saturday, we stay alone and the gym and get pretty close to sex. Next monday she tells me she's "never done it" with anyone before and that's why she was nervous, etc (she just wanted to tell me). Next saturday we stayed alone again and I took her V; sex was pretty good, moaning and hitting on the back. Tuesday we have a lame discussion, and wednesday she messages me and says she wants to break up; I told her it's ok but she should tell me in person.
I assumed she was gonna back down, but she told me she just wants to be friends like before. WTF. What girl loses her virginity and then says she wants to be just friends? I feel like a used peace of meat
I was never with a virgin, high five! :D
All seems pretty standard, her being nervous is normal. And who know what's going through her head... Maybe she thinks you do it with all girls, her knowing your ex, another guy's in the picture, she's testing you... yada yada.
The point is doesn't and shouldn't matter to you in terms of how you act. Only thing I'd handle differently is this:
I told her it's ok but she should tell me in person.
Not sure why you'd go the complicated/potential drama/deep conversation road when you just had sex once. Especially coming from you I'd expect the only right way to handle this imo which is saying what you want and giving her space. Her "Breaking Up with you" is really cute after a couple dates and I wouldn't look much into it she obviously has a lot to sort through.
It's normal she will act strangely from an experienced guys point of view, if you care about the girl you have to be the one who cools everything down and brings stability and clear direction. "Well that's up to you girly, but I'm crazy into you and friendship just won't do so hit me up if you change your mind and we'll do something fun, you know where to find me!"
I have a nack for telling the new ones. Sex at the gym was my other pending fantasy >
I did do pretty much what you said in person, it just seemed awkward to me over the phone; the exact words were "ok but that's the kind of thing you say in person" and she brought it up and I said what you said basically. We didn't just "have sex" we did coupley stuff (extra talk, hold hands) But yeah, act like nothing happened and continue with life. Hit on her if possible cause I like her. I did talk to her a bit today while resting and she seemed warm about it? Crazy bitches be crazy.
Why do I have a feeling that if we have the information of how old you and the girl we would be easier to pinpoint a problem lol
And the story sounds like you dont like her that much anyway, if I were you I'd just be honest and ask her will she up for being just bang buddy
but seriously, a girl who goes to gym very often who is also a virgin?
also in this year and age there is no such thing as 'coupley' stuff, the way the girls i have been with in their early 20s think and behave completely blew my mind (just for the record i am in late 20s aka the 80s generation), the way you described her almost sounds too generic to me now. Move on and seek for meaningful long term instead. + Show Spoiler +
but for more practical tips, if the sex was truly good she would have wanted more, there is no exception. seriously lol. aim to self-improvement more instead
On January 17 2016 11:11 LemOn wrote: Meh Okay I'll bite
On January 16 2016 09:13 GoTuNk! wrote: Huh I need advice... I tought I knew everything up to this point.
Context: I own and train everyday on my crossfit gym. Girl, named Ana also trains there.
I met ana roughly 1.5 years ago, asked her out, we had an awkward date and so was it. I met my ex-gf, we were a couple for like 9 months, who was friends with ana and me during the relationship. Ana and my ex-gf became best girlfriends for a while, but don't talk anymore.
We have a 2nd date with ana (LOL) and again ends awkwardly. She doesn't talk to me for like 2 months.
She randomly starts chatting with me like a month ago. We talk a bit when we see at the gym, and she shows up to the new year party I was (she almost never drinks or goes out) and we kiss and spend the party together. Same saturday, we stay alone and the gym and get pretty close to sex. Next monday she tells me she's "never done it" with anyone before and that's why she was nervous, etc (she just wanted to tell me). Next saturday we stayed alone again and I took her V; sex was pretty good, moaning and hitting on the back. Tuesday we have a lame discussion, and wednesday she messages me and says she wants to break up; I told her it's ok but she should tell me in person.
I assumed she was gonna back down, but she told me she just wants to be friends like before. WTF. What girl loses her virginity and then says she wants to be just friends? I feel like a used peace of meat
I was never with a virgin, high five! :D
All seems pretty standard, her being nervous is normal. And who know what's going through her head... Maybe she thinks you do it with all girls, her knowing your ex, another guy's in the picture, she's testing you... yada yada.
The point is doesn't and shouldn't matter to you in terms of how you act. Only thing I'd handle differently is this:
I told her it's ok but she should tell me in person.
Not sure why you'd go the complicated/potential drama/deep conversation road when you just had sex once. Especially coming from you I'd expect the only right way to handle this imo which is saying what you want and giving her space. Her "Breaking Up with you" is really cute after a couple dates and I wouldn't look much into it she obviously has a lot to sort through.
It's normal she will act strangely from an experienced guys point of view, if you care about the girl you have to be the one who cools everything down and brings stability and clear direction. "Well that's up to you girly, but I'm crazy into you and friendship just won't do so hit me up if you change your mind and we'll do something fun, you know where to find me!"
I have a nack for telling the new ones. Sex at the gym was my other pending fantasy >
I did do pretty much what you said in person, it just seemed awkward to me over the phone; the exact words were "ok but that's the kind of thing you say in person" and she brought it up and I said what you said basically. We didn't just "have sex" we did coupley stuff (extra talk, hold hands) But yeah, act like nothing happened and continue with life. Hit on her if possible cause I like her. I did talk to her a bit today while resting and she seemed warm about it? Crazy bitches be crazy.
Why do I have a feeling that if we have the information of how old you and the girl we would be easier to pinpoint a problem lol
And the story sounds like you dont like her that much anyway, if I were you I'd just be honest and ask her will she up for being just bang buddy
but seriously, a girl who goes to gym very often who is also a virgin?
also in this year and age there is no such thing as 'coupley' stuff, the way the girls i have been with in their early 20s think and behave completely blew my mind (just for the record i am in late 20s aka the 80s generation), the way you described her almost sounds too generic to me now. Move on and seek for meaningful long term instead. + Show Spoiler +
but for more practical tips, if the sex was truly good she would have wanted more, there is no exception. seriously lol. aim to self-improvement more instead
Sex was good. The fact that she wanted to break up after a lame disgreement (it was not even a fight) is mind baffling to me; I tought this was long term material. I'll try to get her again, cause I like her, and if not just ignore her completely.
you say break up - did you at any point verbally establish that you were dating? fucking and holding hands ain't dating. you went to a party with her, got drunk, kiss, later fucked. That's it.
if you're that fixated on figuring out why, stop looking at it through your perspective and values and try from hers. something obviously threw her off like burningsera said
On January 17 2016 11:11 LemOn wrote: Meh Okay I'll bite
On January 16 2016 09:13 GoTuNk! wrote: Huh I need advice... I tought I knew everything up to this point.
Context: I own and train everyday on my crossfit gym. Girl, named Ana also trains there.
I met ana roughly 1.5 years ago, asked her out, we had an awkward date and so was it. I met my ex-gf, we were a couple for like 9 months, who was friends with ana and me during the relationship. Ana and my ex-gf became best girlfriends for a while, but don't talk anymore.
We have a 2nd date with ana (LOL) and again ends awkwardly. She doesn't talk to me for like 2 months.
She randomly starts chatting with me like a month ago. We talk a bit when we see at the gym, and she shows up to the new year party I was (she almost never drinks or goes out) and we kiss and spend the party together. Same saturday, we stay alone and the gym and get pretty close to sex. Next monday she tells me she's "never done it" with anyone before and that's why she was nervous, etc (she just wanted to tell me). Next saturday we stayed alone again and I took her V; sex was pretty good, moaning and hitting on the back. Tuesday we have a lame discussion, and wednesday she messages me and says she wants to break up; I told her it's ok but she should tell me in person.
I assumed she was gonna back down, but she told me she just wants to be friends like before. WTF. What girl loses her virginity and then says she wants to be just friends? I feel like a used peace of meat
I was never with a virgin, high five! :D
All seems pretty standard, her being nervous is normal. And who know what's going through her head... Maybe she thinks you do it with all girls, her knowing your ex, another guy's in the picture, she's testing you... yada yada.
The point is doesn't and shouldn't matter to you in terms of how you act. Only thing I'd handle differently is this:
I told her it's ok but she should tell me in person.
Not sure why you'd go the complicated/potential drama/deep conversation road when you just had sex once. Especially coming from you I'd expect the only right way to handle this imo which is saying what you want and giving her space. Her "Breaking Up with you" is really cute after a couple dates and I wouldn't look much into it she obviously has a lot to sort through.
It's normal she will act strangely from an experienced guys point of view, if you care about the girl you have to be the one who cools everything down and brings stability and clear direction. "Well that's up to you girly, but I'm crazy into you and friendship just won't do so hit me up if you change your mind and we'll do something fun, you know where to find me!"
I have a nack for telling the new ones. Sex at the gym was my other pending fantasy >
I did do pretty much what you said in person, it just seemed awkward to me over the phone; the exact words were "ok but that's the kind of thing you say in person" and she brought it up and I said what you said basically. We didn't just "have sex" we did coupley stuff (extra talk, hold hands) But yeah, act like nothing happened and continue with life. Hit on her if possible cause I like her. I did talk to her a bit today while resting and she seemed warm about it? Crazy bitches be crazy.
Why do I have a feeling that if we have the information of how old you and the girl we would be easier to pinpoint a problem lol
And the story sounds like you dont like her that much anyway, if I were you I'd just be honest and ask her will she up for being just bang buddy
but seriously, a girl who goes to gym very often who is also a virgin?
also in this year and age there is no such thing as 'coupley' stuff, the way the girls i have been with in their early 20s think and behave completely blew my mind (just for the record i am in late 20s aka the 80s generation), the way you described her almost sounds too generic to me now. Move on and seek for meaningful long term instead. + Show Spoiler +
but for more practical tips, if the sex was truly good she would have wanted more, there is no exception. seriously lol. aim to self-improvement more instead
Sex was good. The fact that she wanted to break up after a lame disgreement (it was not even a fight) is mind baffling to me; I tought this was long term material. I'll try to get her again, cause I like her, and if not just ignore her completely.
I'm 25, she is 22.
You already said what you want, no need to initiate again unless she comes to you.
Recently, I find it incredibly difficult to motivate myself to talk to women or even have a wank.
I have a lady friend who sometimes shares my bed, and I really don't want to do more than sleep when she's here. I find myself coming up with excuses, like I'm tired or I'm sick, but I feel like she's taking it as a slap in the face every time.
Last year I fucked at least five times a week and had two wanks a day on the other days, now I just do it once every week or so if I can't fall asleep. I also stopped drinking, haven't had a drink in five months, and I'm starting to think those are related. It's either that or the fact that this stupid island doesn't have any sun, maybe the D needs vitamin D...
On January 20 2016 09:41 DickMcFanny wrote: Recently, I find it incredibly difficult to motivate myself to talk to women or even have a wank.
I have a lady friend who sometimes shares my bed, and I really don't want to do more than sleep when she's here. I find myself coming up with excuses, like I'm tired or I'm sick, but I feel like she's taking it as a slap in the face every time.
Last year I fucked at least five times a week and had two wanks a day on the other days, now I just do it once every week or so if I can't fall asleep. I also stopped drinking, haven't had a drink in five months, and I'm starting to think those are related. It's either that or the fact that this stupid island doesn't have any sun, maybe the D needs vitamin D...
Low vit D causes low testosterone. I find Vit D to be the most cost efficient supplement on the market.
EPT
Afterwards, he could have turned to her and said "Well that was promising! Not bad!" 
