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Frantic
Profile Joined September 2011
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 23:48:37
September 14 2011 23:47 GMT
#441
Can't believe dude actually went to jail for this. It's not like he did any physical harm, just emotional. Sure it was wrong but to go as far as to jail him seems a little fucked up in my opinion. The system is trying to take away your right of freedom of speech on the internet as well. He was within his legal rights to do that, why he would want to is another question. Seems a bit un-constitutional.

Edit: Just saw that this was in the UK. Guess they don't have rights over there.
ZOMGitsTHEEND
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada202 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 23:47:37
September 14 2011 23:47 GMT
#442
this is extremely odd...
didnt even know you can get jailed for this.
Soluhwin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1287 Posts
September 14 2011 23:48 GMT
#443
I wouldn't call this guy a troll, he seems like more of an idiot.
I put the sexy in dyslexia.
jackalope1234
Profile Joined December 2010
122 Posts
September 14 2011 23:52 GMT
#444
guy has assburgers he dont know this isn't acceptable... mmmmm assburgersss
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
September 15 2011 00:03 GMT
#445
On September 15 2011 08:48 Soluhwin wrote:
I wouldn't call this guy a troll, he seems like more of an idiot.

He's an aspie -.-
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6161 Posts
September 15 2011 00:15 GMT
#446
I know the UK has worse/convoluted libel laws so this situation might not happen everywhere, but my gut says this prosecution was nonsense.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
September 15 2011 00:28 GMT
#447
On September 15 2011 08:47 Frantic wrote:
Can't believe dude actually went to jail for this. It's not like he did any physical harm, just emotional. Sure it was wrong but to go as far as to jail him seems a little fucked up in my opinion. The system is trying to take away your right of freedom of speech on the internet as well. He was within his legal rights to do that, why he would want to is another question. Seems a bit un-constitutional.

Edit: Just saw that this was in the UK. Guess they don't have rights over there.


I think emotional trauma can be far worse than physical trauma in many situations.
Lomak
Profile Joined June 2010
United States311 Posts
September 15 2011 00:36 GMT
#448
It's so ironic that he's got some 'troll' features, like having no neck.
Some see the glass half full, others half empty. I think the glass is just too big.
Ygz
Profile Joined June 2010
England370 Posts
September 15 2011 00:36 GMT
#449
Tricky situation since he clearly has an illness. If anything I believe community service may have been in order along with some help, in regards to his social ineptness.
Everything Newton said.
Tektos
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1321 Posts
September 15 2011 00:40 GMT
#450
On September 15 2011 08:38 ChinaRestaurant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 08:27 Tektos wrote:
As disgusting as his actions are, I support freedom of speech and could never support him being jailed for saying something over the internet. It truly is sad that the UK is headed in the direction of being a police state.

He should obviously be banned from facebook for being an utter prick, but jailtime? What the hell...


Would you think differently if he had done something like that in "real life" though? Words can be hurtful either way, doesnt really matter how they are delivered.


No, I wouldn't. There would be consequences but I wouldn't support jailtime for his actions.

There are non-legal consequences in real life, just like there is getting your facebook account banned if you do it over the internet.
GloPikkle
Profile Joined October 2010
United States197 Posts
September 15 2011 00:48 GMT
#451
Good riddance.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
September 15 2011 00:50 GMT
#452
Pro trolling? Or stupidity? I don't know but the guy kinda looks like a troll if trolls were short.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
W2
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1177 Posts
September 15 2011 00:51 GMT
#453
jailtime is too much imo... What if I leave my computer on and my roommate walks over and writes random stuff? I also have a few friend's facebook login... Does that mean I can put them in jail? o_O
Hi
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11524 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 00:56:39
September 15 2011 00:53 GMT
#454
On September 15 2011 06:04 Djzapz wrote:
He's a dbag but didn't deserve to go to jail. Same with the imbeciles who raided a WoW funeral years ago

Deal with it, the world is a rough place, people.

He did what many people think anyway. If I saw a Facebook tribute page for a suicide "victim", I'd eyeroll. Keep your tragedies to yourself, people. I don't condone that he did in the slightest by the way, I also don't condone smoking but people should be allowed to be stupid.

Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 05:28 Verator wrote:
This happens constantly in the states, especially to gay/ transgender kids and their families, and there's no way to really win a case against these people. At least Britain does the right thing.

The US does a lot of stuff wrong, including putting people in jail for petty bullshit like selling weed, but thankfully they don't put folks in jail for hurting people's feelings. (Well I'm sure they do sometimes but yeah...)

Britain doesn't do the right thing, it's wasting taxpayer money with bullshit.


Wait, what? You're acting like the facebook page is some persistent telemarketer telling you to be sad for the girl or it's spamming ads at you. You can decide to click on the page or not, if you even knew about it in the first place. Facebook is a social network and people tend to have a lot more international friends or keep in touch with friends that have gone internationally. A memorial page on facebook would make sense then in a day and age of instant communication and online social networking. Rather than demanding people resort to snail mail or travel in person to offer condolences. It's just a way of people expressing their grief and for that reason they are a dumb group target. (Just like those Westboro crazies at military funerals.)

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Tektos
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1321 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 01:19:33
September 15 2011 01:13 GMT
#455
On September 15 2011 09:53 Falling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 06:04 Djzapz wrote:
He's a dbag but didn't deserve to go to jail. Same with the imbeciles who raided a WoW funeral years ago

Deal with it, the world is a rough place, people.

He did what many people think anyway. If I saw a Facebook tribute page for a suicide "victim", I'd eyeroll. Keep your tragedies to yourself, people. I don't condone that he did in the slightest by the way, I also don't condone smoking but people should be allowed to be stupid.

On September 15 2011 05:28 Verator wrote:
This happens constantly in the states, especially to gay/ transgender kids and their families, and there's no way to really win a case against these people. At least Britain does the right thing.

The US does a lot of stuff wrong, including putting people in jail for petty bullshit like selling weed, but thankfully they don't put folks in jail for hurting people's feelings. (Well I'm sure they do sometimes but yeah...)

Britain doesn't do the right thing, it's wasting taxpayer money with bullshit.


Wait, what? You're acting like the facebook page is some persistent telemarketer telling you to be sad for the girl or it's spamming ads at you. You can decide to click on the page or not, if you even knew about it in the first place. Facebook is a social network and people tend to have a lot more international friends or keep in touch with friends that have gone internationally. A memorial page on facebook would make sense then in a day and age of instant communication and online social networking. Rather than demanding people resort to snail mail or travel in person to offer condolences. It's just a way of people expressing their grief and for that reason they are a dumb group target. (Just like those Westboro crazies at military funerals.)


That is the thing, Facebook is a Social Network. It is not an exclusive social club where only people with your public opinions and social etiquette are allowed. If you make a public group on Facebook then there will be people with different opinions, thoughts, beliefs, etiquette and personalities. Just because one person's etiquette is polar opposite to the majority it doesn't take away from the fact that this was a public Facebook group where ANYONE can voice their opinion. Throwing him in jail for being an asshole shouldn't be how things are handled.



On September 15 2011 09:51 W2 wrote:
jailtime is too much imo... What if I leave my computer on and my roommate walks over and writes random stuff? I also have a few friend's facebook login... Does that mean I can put them in jail? o_O

This has me curious, what is the process if I leave my computer on and someone uses my computer to search for things like how to make bombs / kill people, posts hoax terrorist threats on social networks or downloads/distributes kiddie porn? Does the owner of the computer get prosecuted? How do you prove if it was / wasn't you at the computer at the time these things were searched?

They would probably prosecute the owner of the computer where these illegal acts occurred or else it would give everyone on the internet carte blanche to say "well, that wasn't me at the computer".
TutsiRebel
Profile Joined August 2011
United States172 Posts
September 15 2011 01:19 GMT
#456
Jesus christ the UK is even more of a police state than the USA
I can bhop irl
BarbieHsu
Profile Joined September 2011
574 Posts
September 15 2011 01:25 GMT
#457
On September 15 2011 04:11 Shrubbles wrote:
This is one of the most fucked up minds to ever walk on earth period.


Godwin's law inc. Hitler.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
September 15 2011 01:29 GMT
#458
On September 15 2011 10:13 Tektos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 09:53 Falling wrote:
On September 15 2011 06:04 Djzapz wrote:
He's a dbag but didn't deserve to go to jail. Same with the imbeciles who raided a WoW funeral years ago

Deal with it, the world is a rough place, people.

He did what many people think anyway. If I saw a Facebook tribute page for a suicide "victim", I'd eyeroll. Keep your tragedies to yourself, people. I don't condone that he did in the slightest by the way, I also don't condone smoking but people should be allowed to be stupid.

On September 15 2011 05:28 Verator wrote:
This happens constantly in the states, especially to gay/ transgender kids and their families, and there's no way to really win a case against these people. At least Britain does the right thing.

The US does a lot of stuff wrong, including putting people in jail for petty bullshit like selling weed, but thankfully they don't put folks in jail for hurting people's feelings. (Well I'm sure they do sometimes but yeah...)

Britain doesn't do the right thing, it's wasting taxpayer money with bullshit.


Wait, what? You're acting like the facebook page is some persistent telemarketer telling you to be sad for the girl or it's spamming ads at you. You can decide to click on the page or not, if you even knew about it in the first place. Facebook is a social network and people tend to have a lot more international friends or keep in touch with friends that have gone internationally. A memorial page on facebook would make sense then in a day and age of instant communication and online social networking. Rather than demanding people resort to snail mail or travel in person to offer condolences. It's just a way of people expressing their grief and for that reason they are a dumb group target. (Just like those Westboro crazies at military funerals.)


That is the thing, Facebook is a Social Network. It is not an exclusive social club where only people with your public opinions and social etiquette are allowed. If you make a public group on Facebook then there will be people with different opinions, thoughts, beliefs, etiquette and personalities. Just because one person's etiquette is polar opposite to the majority it doesn't take away from the fact that this was a public Facebook group where ANYONE can voice their opinion. Throwing him in jail for being an asshole shouldn't be how things are handled.



Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 09:51 W2 wrote:
jailtime is too much imo... What if I leave my computer on and my roommate walks over and writes random stuff? I also have a few friend's facebook login... Does that mean I can put them in jail? o_O

This has me curious, what is the process if I leave my computer on and someone uses my computer to search for things like how to make bombs / kill people, posts hoax terrorist threats on social networks or downloads/distributes kiddie porn? Does the owner of the computer get prosecuted? How do you prove if it was / wasn't you at the computer at the time these things were searched?

They would probably prosecute the owner of the computer where these illegal acts occurred or else it would give everyone on the internet carte blanche to say "well, that wasn't me at the computer".


Yes, I believe the owner gets prosecuted unless he can prove it wasn't him.

Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
September 15 2011 01:31 GMT
#459
On September 15 2011 10:25 BarbieHsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 04:11 Shrubbles wrote:
This is one of the most fucked up minds to ever walk on earth period.


Godwin's law inc. Hitler.


I'm pretty sure that you just fulfilled Godwin's law, it doesn't really work if you call it first anyway also


On September 15 2011 08:47 Frantic wrote:
Can't believe dude actually went to jail for this. It's not like he did any physical harm, just emotional. Sure it was wrong but to go as far as to jail him seems a little fucked up in my opinion. The system is trying to take away your right of freedom of speech on the internet as well. He was within his legal rights to do that, why he would want to is another question. Seems a bit un-constitutional.

Edit: Just saw that this was in the UK. Guess they don't have rights over there.


Yes clearly it means that the UK doesn't have rights not that this guy was doing what amounted to harassment over YEARS to multiple families, seriously, I'm just, I'm actually having trouble finding words for how annoying people like you are who I guarantee did not read the article before posting this and came to the retarded conclusion that this means that the UK doesn't have rights.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
BarbieHsu
Profile Joined September 2011
574 Posts
September 15 2011 01:31 GMT
#460
His words have no redeeming value. They do not deserve to be protected. His only intention was not merely to mock, but to hurt. Grievously.

The opinion that says that in no way should improper speech be punished by incarceration seems to me to be the product of a modern society that babies its citizens. "He's a victim of his times!" No, idiot. He's just a massive dick.
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