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Keep your off topic discussions out of this thread and show some damn respect!
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 12:38:43
July 23 2011 12:35 GMT
#621
On July 23 2011 21:28 CCow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 21:25 Ciraxis wrote:
Can somebody confirm if this photo:[image loading]
matches with the video:

No idea, doesn't seem so to me. I'd think all the islands coastline looks somewhat similiar if you compare to the birds-view-photos of the islands posted earlier.


The first picture is taken from a helicopter.
The video is from a boat way later.

The first picture is actually a still from a video.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
koveras
Profile Joined January 2011
163 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 12:36:46
July 23 2011 12:36 GMT
#622
How can you kill 84 teenagers in cold blood? Im pretty upset about this event and I dont live in Norway. Personally im shifting more towards legalizing carrying a weapon outside because than this piece of shit wouldnt have had the chance to rampage for 2 fucking hours.
“That’s amazing everyone ‘Likes’ my status but you, you’re my wife. You should be the first one to ‘Like’ my status.
CCow
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany335 Posts
July 23 2011 12:36 GMT
#623
On July 23 2011 21:30 Ciraxis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 21:29 Brundlefly wrote:
No, the video from the coast was after the gunman was arrested. 1st picture is of gunman.


I was stating that with reference to the geographical location. As in, is it located in the same place? Are the images of the same place?

I still think not.

@last Post: I still think it was 30minutes untill SWAT-arrival, not 2hours. Consider they came from 40km far away Oslo to an island. Also there was the bombing in Oslo to start things of.
DeSam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium84 Posts
July 23 2011 12:36 GMT
#624
what happend at the island? why did the kids go there
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
July 23 2011 12:37 GMT
#625
On July 23 2011 21:36 DeSam wrote:
what happend at the island? why did the kids go there


Second time you asked this, and you could've just checked the OP.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
July 23 2011 12:37 GMT
#626
On July 23 2011 21:36 DeSam wrote:
what happend at the island? why did the kids go there


Summer camp.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
CCow
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany335 Posts
July 23 2011 12:37 GMT
#627
On July 23 2011 21:36 DeSam wrote:
what happend at the island? why did the kids go there


Read the OP, please.
Nausea
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden807 Posts
July 23 2011 12:37 GMT
#628
On July 23 2011 21:36 DeSam wrote:
what happend at the island? why did the kids go there


They were there on a summer camp for kids who have an interest in politics.
Set it ablaze!
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
July 23 2011 12:38 GMT
#629
Er sei der Leiter eines Bio-Bauernhofs, Junggeselle und interessiere sich für die Jagd sowie für Computer-Kriegsspiele wie "World of Warcraft" und "Modern Warfare 2".


"[...] interested in hunting and in computer-wargames like World of Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2."


Fucking news.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
July 23 2011 12:38 GMT
#630
On July 23 2011 21:36 DeSam wrote:
what happend at the island? why did the kids go there


Political summer camp/conference for the ruling party youth organization.
Also known as Joinsimon on Twitter/Reddit
KjetilV
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway20 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 13:00:51
July 23 2011 12:38 GMT
#631
On July 23 2011 21:09 DoXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 21:01 Aldehyde wrote:
On July 23 2011 20:59 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 23 2011 20:57 DoXa wrote:
On July 23 2011 20:54 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 23 2011 20:52 Ciraxis wrote:
Some questions about the motives:

First of all - Anders seems pretty normal? In regards to his political standpoint, what's so different about him? He likes Max Manus? Likes Churchill? He's in the Progress Party? Doesn't like Muslims and immigration? He's a nationalist? What I don't understand is how these seemingly moderate political perspectives eventuated into such a massacre. I am more inclined to believe he was simply a psychopath with too much faith in the radicalism of his political views.

Secondly, the news bulletin here in Australia described him as a "Christian fundamentalist. To what extent is this true? I haven't seen this anywhere, though I heard he called himself a Christian.


Not liking Muslims and immigration is a moderate viewpoint?...


In Western/Middle Europe yes. It's common to not like them. Not hate in particular, but people here are really xenophobic


I'm from the UK and if someone told me they "didn't like Muslims", I'd think they were a right-wing racist idiot.


Here in Sweden, no one would outright say that it's the Muslims they don't like. They'd say something along with "those immigrants." But they're not talking about the Polish, Serbian or other kind of white immigrants, nope, it's the Middle-Eastern ones.


This is the kind of xenophobia i'm talking about. You don't hear people say "i don't like X". But you hear about those "damn immigrants" all the time. No one will say to you: " i don't like muslims". They will tell you how immigrants destroy our society and so on

[image loading]

Man arrested carrying a knife at the Place the PM currently stays


He is already known to the police. He got asbergers syndrome.

Got released from prison not long ago for burning down a school:
http://www.ta.no/bilder/bildeserier/article3416528.ece
http://www.ta.no/nyheter/article3416211.ece
sCfO20
Profile Joined May 2011
176 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 12:40:56
July 23 2011 12:39 GMT
#632
How did a news team get there so fast?

"[...] interested in hunting and in computer-wargames like World of Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2."


Fucking news.


LOL what the fuck. World of Warcraft is just as much a war game as chess is a war game.
larssto
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway18 Posts
July 23 2011 12:39 GMT
#633
On July 23 2011 21:36 DeSam wrote:
what happend at the island? why did the kids go there


It was a summer camp for the Youth Wing of the Norwegian Labour Party. It's been held there every summer for decades. The current Prime Minister (Labour) has been visiting every summer since 1974...
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
July 23 2011 12:40 GMT
#634
On July 23 2011 21:36 koveras wrote:
How can you kill 84 teenagers in cold blood? Im pretty upset about this event and I dont live in Norway. Personally im shifting more towards legalizing carrying a weapon outside because than this piece of shit wouldnt have had the chance to rampage for 2 fucking hours.


Thing is teenagers likely wouldn't have access and even if they did likely none would be permitted to take onto the island for camp and then probably very few if any would have thought there would be any circumstance in which they would need it, being on an island for labor youth camp.

It's just a tragedy that couldn't really have been prevented no matter how you think about the what if's
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
July 23 2011 12:41 GMT
#635
--- Nuked ---
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
July 23 2011 12:41 GMT
#636

[/QUOTE]
Those people are often deeply disturbed. However this person has pulled the trigger with killing shots 84 times and many more less devastating shots over such a long time (2 hours? WTF). AND THEY ARE KIDS. I have no words.

RIP[/QUOTE]

It ended after about 30 minutes. Still, a very long time ....
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
July 23 2011 12:42 GMT
#637
On July 23 2011 21:38 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
Er sei der Leiter eines Bio-Bauernhofs, Junggeselle und interessiere sich für die Jagd sowie für Computer-Kriegsspiele wie "World of Warcraft" und "Modern Warfare 2".


"[...] interested in hunting and in computer-wargames like World of Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2."


Fucking news.

And here we go again..

It's really starting to get increasingly difficult to get some neutral, non-sensationalist news nowadays. Belgian quality newspapers were pretty much insinuating that it was islamists who did the bombing, without really having a good reason.
KjetilV
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway20 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 12:46:04
July 23 2011 12:42 GMT
#638
On July 23 2011 21:41 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 21:38 KjetilV wrote:
On July 23 2011 21:09 DoXa wrote:
On July 23 2011 21:01 Aldehyde wrote:
On July 23 2011 20:59 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 23 2011 20:57 DoXa wrote:
On July 23 2011 20:54 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 23 2011 20:52 Ciraxis wrote:
Some questions about the motives:

First of all - Anders seems pretty normal? In regards to his political standpoint, what's so different about him? He likes Max Manus? Likes Churchill? He's in the Progress Party? Doesn't like Muslims and immigration? He's a nationalist? What I don't understand is how these seemingly moderate political perspectives eventuated into such a massacre. I am more inclined to believe he was simply a psychopath with too much faith in the radicalism of his political views.

Secondly, the news bulletin here in Australia described him as a "Christian fundamentalist. To what extent is this true? I haven't seen this anywhere, though I heard he called himself a Christian.


Not liking Muslims and immigration is a moderate viewpoint?...


In Western/Middle Europe yes. It's common to not like them. Not hate in particular, but people here are really xenophobic


I'm from the UK and if someone told me they "didn't like Muslims", I'd think they were a right-wing racist idiot.


Here in Sweden, no one would outright say that it's the Muslims they don't like. They'd say something along with "those immigrants." But they're not talking about the Polish, Serbian or other kind of white immigrants, nope, it's the Middle-Eastern ones.


This is the kind of xenophobia i'm talking about. You don't hear people say "i don't like X". But you hear about those "damn immigrants" all the time. No one will say to you: " i don't like muslims". They will tell you how immigrants destroy our society and so on

[image loading]

Man arrested carrying a knife at the Place the PM currently stays


Alexander Stavdal.

http://nb-no.facebook.com/people/Alexander-Stavdal/702620596

Got released from prison not long ago for burning down a school:
http://www.ta.no/bilder/bildeserier/article3416528.ece
http://www.ta.no/nyheter/article3416211.ece

Any source confirming that its him?


I used to live 300 meters from the school he burned down. Friends texted me saying it was him. His arrest today was being shown live on TV. Not 100% confirmed from any source yet.

EDIT: He's got Aspergers ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome ), so I doubt he was connected to the killings. He's just after attention. He was on the island as a contender on the camp.



VG.no (newspaper) talked to him not long after he escaped the island: http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/artikkel.php?artid=10080627

TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
July 23 2011 12:43 GMT
#639
On July 23 2011 21:38 KjetilV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 21:09 DoXa wrote:
On July 23 2011 21:01 Aldehyde wrote:
On July 23 2011 20:59 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 23 2011 20:57 DoXa wrote:
On July 23 2011 20:54 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 23 2011 20:52 Ciraxis wrote:
Some questions about the motives:

First of all - Anders seems pretty normal? In regards to his political standpoint, what's so different about him? He likes Max Manus? Likes Churchill? He's in the Progress Party? Doesn't like Muslims and immigration? He's a nationalist? What I don't understand is how these seemingly moderate political perspectives eventuated into such a massacre. I am more inclined to believe he was simply a psychopath with too much faith in the radicalism of his political views.

Secondly, the news bulletin here in Australia described him as a "Christian fundamentalist. To what extent is this true? I haven't seen this anywhere, though I heard he called himself a Christian.


Not liking Muslims and immigration is a moderate viewpoint?...


In Western/Middle Europe yes. It's common to not like them. Not hate in particular, but people here are really xenophobic


I'm from the UK and if someone told me they "didn't like Muslims", I'd think they were a right-wing racist idiot.


Here in Sweden, no one would outright say that it's the Muslims they don't like. They'd say something along with "those immigrants." But they're not talking about the Polish, Serbian or other kind of white immigrants, nope, it's the Middle-Eastern ones.


This is the kind of xenophobia i'm talking about. You don't hear people say "i don't like X". But you hear about those "damn immigrants" all the time. No one will say to you: " i don't like muslims". They will tell you how immigrants destroy our society and so on

[image loading]

Man arrested carrying a knife at the Place the PM currently stays


Alexander Stavdal.

http://nb-no.facebook.com/people/Alexander-Stavdal/702620596

Got released from prison not long ago for burning down a school:
http://www.ta.no/bilder/bildeserier/article3416528.ece
http://www.ta.no/nyheter/article3416211.ece


Source?
Also known as Joinsimon on Twitter/Reddit
dangerjoe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark1866 Posts
July 23 2011 12:44 GMT
#640
http://www.document.no/anders-behring-breivik/

A collection of all his posts at the site document.no

+ a news article on his comments:
http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/07/23/nyheter/innenriks/terror/utoya/17425781/
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