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On July 10 2011 11:33 Wodus wrote:
no idea if that has been asked before since i havent read the whole thing but i am acutally curious about a couple of things.
You might excuse stupid questions as it is hard to get guns in europe and personally i dont actually miss owing one. However since I always loved the sniper guns in games I actually wondered how it feels to shoot them in real life. That includes Dragunovs, the m24 but also SVN98 and ofc Barret M95.
I found that most in here dont own sniper rifles and i wondered why?
Is it price? availability? simply not interested?
Is there a chance to try those out in the US by chance on a shooting range for instance?
Sniping is a very precise and fun art. If you get really into it, you learn how to predict the wind's effect on bullet path and adjust your aim on the fly. I have a remington sniper rifle in .308 that I've used to hit torso sized targets at 400 yards. You can figure out how much the bullet drops at that distance by using charts or calculations based on the weight and caliber of bullet used, but the wind! Man its tricky especially at distances when the wind can be blowing in different directions at different points in the path of the bullet.
The shooting range with the furthest targets I've seen around my area has plates out to 500 yards (~457 meters). Sniping in real life is much more difficult than in video games. The only real way to be accurate at long range is to be shooting with a support for your gun - usually shooting prone off a bipod or similar setup. Technique and intuition is really important - breathing control, smooth pulls, and all the calculation involved in a long shot. For accuracy's sake, many sniper rifles are very heavy, especially .50 cals. As a result, sniper rifles have very manageable recoils usually.
There is generally less interest in it these days though, since people have moved more to the "tactical" stuff with short barreled guns designed for maneuverability in tight spaces. As a mechanically-inclined, precision freak myself, sniper rifles are awesome. Among the hunting community, long range accuracy is much more valued too.
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On July 10 2011 11:33 Wodus wrote:
no idea if that has been asked before since i havent read the whole thing but i am acutally curious about a couple of things.
You might excuse stupid questions as it is hard to get guns in europe and personally i dont actually miss owing one. However since I always loved the sniper guns in games I actually wondered how it feels to shoot them in real life. That includes Dragunovs, the m24 but also SVN98 and ofc Barret M95.
I found that most in here dont own sniper rifles and i wondered why?
Is it price? availability? simply not interested?
Is there a chance to try those out in the US by chance on a shooting range for instance?
The Remington 700 is probably the most prominent North American sniper/hunting rifle. Sniper rifles and hunting rifles are often the exact same thing, btw. I think the m24 is actually a slightly modified Remington 700.
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They're definitely available as hunting is a huge part of the gun market but I think they may just be lower on the list for non-hunters and guns as a whole, are generally pretty expensive.
You can definitely shoot one at any range you go to.
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Hey guys... gun question :3
If you wanted a gun for the sole purpose of striking a fairly small target (like .5 meter x .5 meter) at a huge distance... which guns would be ideal for that? I'm sure this is situational but... in general, is there a gun or type of gun that specializes in hitting very long distance targets accurately?
What properties of a bullet would you need in order to maximize your range? Resistance to the effects of wind is an obvious consideration also...
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On July 10 2011 11:47 micronesia wrote:
Hey guys... gun question :3
If you wanted a gun for the sole purpose of striking a fairly small target (like .5 meter x .5 meter) at a huge distance... which guns would be ideal for that? I'm sure this is situational but... in general, is there a gun or type of gun that specializes in hitting very long distance targets accurately?
What properties of a bullet would you need in order to maximize your range? Resistance to the effects of wind is an obvious consideration also...
Lots of considerations ... As I was saying earlier, most hunting/sniper rifles are on the heavy side, so you wont exactly be running and gunning. Bullet weight and velocity are two factors that add to effective range, with trajectory coming into play for some oddballs. As a standard, .308's (like the Remington 700 from earlier) are perfectly great for ranges out to 500 yards. Very lethal and very accurate. .30-06 are probably the next most common for long range shooting. .50 BMG is king, but has legal problems in some states, as well as practicality issues, since that thing is basically a cannon its so big. Also, hunting with a 50 is a bad idea because you probably wont have much meat left after that thing hits a deer or whatever.
So yeah depends on what you're shooting and how you're doing it.
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On July 10 2011 11:47 micronesia wrote:
Hey guys... gun question :3
If you wanted a gun for the sole purpose of striking a fairly small target (like .5 meter x .5 meter) at a huge distance... which guns would be ideal for that? I'm sure this is situational but... in general, is there a gun or type of gun that specializes in hitting very long distance targets accurately?
What properties of a bullet would you need in order to maximize your range? Resistance to the effects of wind is an obvious consideration also...
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Remington 700 is an iconic sniper rifle, and is used by both the Army and the Marines (the M24 and M40 are both R700s, with the latter being more modified). It fires a .308 round, which is about as big as rifles get except for .338 (rare magnum cartridge) and .50BMG (extremely loud and powerful, good for long range and anti-material/vehicle). With modification and a good shooter, they're capable of point of impact variations of only an inch or so per 100 yards you shoot (the longer the shot, however, the more gravity and wind have to be accounted for).
Best part is, they can be found for $500, though nicer/fancier variants will cost more. If you want to experience shooting a high-powered round for cheap, get a $100 Mosin and some cheap surplus ammo: it won't be nearly as accurate, and mounting a scope is not worth doing, but they're fun.
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On July 10 2011 11:47 micronesia wrote:
Hey guys... gun question :3
If you wanted a gun for the sole purpose of striking a fairly small target (like .5 meter x .5 meter) at a huge distance... which guns would be ideal for that? I'm sure this is situational but... in general, is there a gun or type of gun that specializes in hitting very long distance targets accurately?
What properties of a bullet would you need in order to maximize your range? Resistance to the effects of wind is an obvious consideration also...
Best solution imo, screw the gun, A crossbow is your best friend. something that's about 180 lbs and use a broadhead. Usually crossbow have a fairly good range and if you are hunting, most of the meat will be left over.
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On July 10 2011 12:12 brain_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 11:47 micronesia wrote:
Hey guys... gun question :3
If you wanted a gun for the sole purpose of striking a fairly small target (like .5 meter x .5 meter) at a huge distance... which guns would be ideal for that? I'm sure this is situational but... in general, is there a gun or type of gun that specializes in hitting very long distance targets accurately?
What properties of a bullet would you need in order to maximize your range? Resistance to the effects of wind is an obvious consideration also... Scroll up a post Remington 700 is an iconic sniper rifle, and is used by both the Army and the Marines (the M24 and M40 are both R700s, with the latter being more modified). It fires a .308 round, which is about as big as rifles get except for .338 (rare magnum cartridge) and .50BMG (extremely loud and powerful, good for long range and anti-material/vehicle). With modification and a good shooter, they're capable of point of impact variations of only an inch or so per 100 yards you shoot (the longer the shot, however, the more gravity and wind have to be accounted for). Best part is, they can be found for $500, though nicer/fancier variants will cost more. If you want to experience shooting a high-powered round for cheap, get a $100 Mosin and some cheap surplus ammo: it won't be nearly as accurate, and mounting a scope is not worth doing, but they're fun.
Ah the good old mosin. One of the few guns to have fought against itself and won.
Also just as a fyi the mosin is still one the most accurate rifles around. That is what was used in vietnam.
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On July 10 2011 12:27 Brethern wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 12:12 brain_ wrote:On July 10 2011 11:47 micronesia wrote:
Hey guys... gun question :3
If you wanted a gun for the sole purpose of striking a fairly small target (like .5 meter x .5 meter) at a huge distance... which guns would be ideal for that? I'm sure this is situational but... in general, is there a gun or type of gun that specializes in hitting very long distance targets accurately?
What properties of a bullet would you need in order to maximize your range? Resistance to the effects of wind is an obvious consideration also... Scroll up a post Remington 700 is an iconic sniper rifle, and is used by both the Army and the Marines (the M24 and M40 are both R700s, with the latter being more modified). It fires a .308 round, which is about as big as rifles get except for .338 (rare magnum cartridge) and .50BMG (extremely loud and powerful, good for long range and anti-material/vehicle). With modification and a good shooter, they're capable of point of impact variations of only an inch or so per 100 yards you shoot (the longer the shot, however, the more gravity and wind have to be accounted for). Best part is, they can be found for $500, though nicer/fancier variants will cost more. If you want to experience shooting a high-powered round for cheap, get a $100 Mosin and some cheap surplus ammo: it won't be nearly as accurate, and mounting a scope is not worth doing, but they're fun. Ah the good old mosin. One of the few guns to have fought against itself and won. Also just as a fyi the mosin is still one the most accurate rifles around. That is what was used in vietnam.
Uhhhh, I'm calling bullshit on that. Maybe it was accurate for it time and its cost,
but from what I've seen about them, most are quite inaccurate, getting 3 or 4 inch groups at 100 yards. The rifle I currently plan on buying, the rather inexpensive Savage Axis, gets 1 inch groups.
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Anyone who says they don't understand guns has never had the distinct pleasure of unloading a full clip of a full auto submachine gun like a mac-10 or let off a few double barrel blasts from a sawed off shotgun.
I'm no gun nut, but owning a .22 luger long barrel rifle pistol is just about the best value fun you can have considering how cheapp .22 bullets are. $5 and you'll have enough bullets for all day, I recommend to everyone to go to a gun range and just try out a cheap .22. Its a great way to take a girl on a date as well, very cheap.
I'm not sure how canada works, I believe in the US you can have any pistol, rifle, or shotgun, and you can have batshit guns like sawed off shotguns, fully automatic machine guns, assault rifles, pen guns, if you have a class 3 ppermit which involves some ATF, I believe, thorough checking but not hard at all. It of course varies state to state, but guns are just a lot of fun, maybe stupid fun, but isn't that what fireworks, fast cars, video games, rocketry, and recreational drugs/alcohol are?
Some peopple can't stand guns because they are literally brainwashed to be averse to them, like japanese people (not saying racism, I mean people grown up there like half of my family). As with anything, you have to be safe and respectful. Even fencing can be fun.
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Mosins are extremely accurate if you take care of them. I brought mine up to a nearby Marine Corps range that went out to 800 yards and was hitting the targets from 800 yards away. The reason you read that most Mosins are inaccurate is due to irresponsible owners and poor maintenance, on 65+ year old weapons. My friend brought along his m1903a3 and the mosin kept pace right along side of it. Oh, and I was shooting surplus 7.62x54r ammo, 2000 rounds later I have never had a problem and it is just as accurate as the springfields 30-06. Only downfall is the primers are corrosive.
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I'm 19 and don't own a gun. However, I have always been interested in picking one up purely for shooting at the range. I've been wondering what kind of gun I should get, as I don't really plan on building a collection very quickly. I'm looking at getting nothing big or fancy, just a sturdy, nice rifle.
I've never shot a real gun before, and I don't intend on using it for self-protection or hunting or anything like that.
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I got a chopper in my car. HOOOOO!
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On July 10 2011 13:57 Valentine wrote:
I'm 19 and don't own a gun. However, I have always been interested in picking one up purely for shooting at the range. I've been wondering what kind of gun I should get, as I don't really plan on building a collection very quickly. I'm looking at getting nothing big or fancy, just a sturdy, nice rifle.
I've never shot a real gun before, and I don't intend on using it for self-protection or hunting or anything like that.
Since you're already older than 18 you can buy a rifle whenever you want to. If you're completely new to shooting, you should probably get a .22 long rifle. Ruger 10/22's are the perfect beginner's rifle. Nearly zero recoil, very accurate and fun to shoot targets or plink silhouettes with.
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If you want something with a little more power behind it, .223's are a great choice. A nice bolt action .223 will get you on your feet with room to grow.
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haha Bagel speaks truth!
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On July 10 2011 13:57 Valentine wrote:
I'm 19 and don't own a gun. However, I have always been interested in picking one up purely for shooting at the range. I've been wondering what kind of gun I should get, as I don't really plan on building a collection very quickly. I'm looking at getting nothing big or fancy, just a sturdy, nice rifle.
I've never shot a real gun before, and I don't intend on using it for self-protection or hunting or anything like that.
If you don't plan on using it for self-protection and only intend to use it at a range, get a .22 rifle. .22 ammo is EXTREMELY cheap (550 rounds for $16, in the US). .22 has a very small kick and is also very accurate. Most common .22 is the Ruger 10/22 which you can pick up for around $150-$230 depending on where you purchase it from.
Don't be fooled, a .22 is still fatal and in most cases can cause more damage than a 9mm (the round ends up tumbling through soft tissue on impact). You always need to be educated and safe around any firearm, even something as small as a .22
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On July 10 2011 13:57 Valentine wrote:
I'm 19 and don't own a gun. However, I have always been interested in picking one up purely for shooting at the range. I've been wondering what kind of gun I should get, as I don't really plan on building a collection very quickly. I'm looking at getting nothing big or fancy, just a sturdy, nice rifle.
I've never shot a real gun before, and I don't intend on using it for self-protection or hunting or anything like that.
Is there anyone you know who goes to shooting ranges? If so, you should try to tag along with them one time and go shooting... in my opinion it doesn't make sense to buy a gun before you have some experience shooting them.
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On July 10 2011 13:28 Belial88 wrote:
Anyone who says they don't understand guns has never had the distinct pleasure of unloading a full clip of a full auto submachine gun like a mac-10 or let off a few double barrel blasts from a sawed off shotgun.
I'm no gun nut, but owning a .22 luger long barrel rifle pistol is just about the best value fun you can have considering how cheapp .22 bullets are. $5 and you'll have enough bullets for all day, I recommend to everyone to go to a gun range and just try out a cheap .22. Its a great way to take a girl on a date as well, very cheap.
I'm not sure how canada works, I believe in the US you can have any pistol, rifle, or shotgun, and you can have batshit guns like sawed off shotguns, fully automatic machine guns, assault rifles, pen guns, if you have a class 3 ppermit which involves some ATF, I believe, thorough checking but not hard at all. It of course varies state to state, but guns are just a lot of fun, maybe stupid fun, but isn't that what fireworks, fast cars, video games, rocketry, and recreational drugs/alcohol are?
Some peopple can't stand guns because they are literally brainwashed to be averse to them, like japanese people (not saying racism, I mean people grown up there like half of my family). As with anything, you have to be safe and respectful. Even fencing can be fun.
The way it works up here, is that all rifles have to be pinned to 5, and all handguns have to be pinned to 10.
You have 3 licenses:
PAL: Lets you own some rifles and shotguns
RPAL: Lets you own the tactile rifles, AR-15s and all handguns with barrels longer than 4.14".
Prohibited license: Lets you own anything from what I understand. You can own full autos, and small handguns with a barrel shorter than the required length.
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Something you guys might find interesting (especially non US citizens)
In my state, Virginia, you can openly carry a handgun in public. It has to be secured in a holster. The minimum age for open carry is 18 and you do not need a permit or license of any kind.
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Virginia is one of 12 "Gold Star" open carry states. Meaning you can freely carry a holstered handgun as long as you are of 18 years of age. 7 states are non permissive open carry states.
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On July 10 2011 14:17 FagelBagel wrote:Something you guys might find interesting (especially non US citizens) In my state, Virginia, you can openly carry a handgun in public. It has to be secured in a holster. The minimum age for open carry is 18 and you do not need a permit or license of any kind. Example: + Show Spoiler +Virginia is one of 12 "Gold Star" open carry states. Meaning you can freely carry a holstered handgun as long as you are of 18 years of age. 7 states are non permissive open carry states.
Oddly enough, California is open carry as well. Ammo just has to be kept separately. Noone does it though, and the rare people who do usually have to carry around a copy of the law just to turn away cops.
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Oddly enough, California is open carry as well. Ammo just has to be kept separately. Noone does it though, and the rare people who do usually have to carry around a copy of the law just to turn away cops.
I guess OC is more common in VA. I've seen quite a few. Its not like everyone is going around with holstered pistols, but I have seen it before. If you go to places like Dicks Sporting Goods, or Gander Mountain, 80% of the people are carrying holstered handguns.
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Fuck Massachusetts gun laws I hate them so much. I want to be able to carry handguns at 18 
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