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On August 03 2017 03:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
If you could tell your 16 year old self one thing what would it be? Excluding lottery numbers, stocks to buy, sports games to bet on etc.
Don't be afraid to take some time off of school, and really, really do some research into what you want to do / where you want to go / how you're going to get there.
It's only recently that I've put in the effort to find stuff and get my life together, so to speak, but it all could have done way earlier if I had the initiative.
Also, don't give up on piano. That shit's a great skill to have.
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On August 03 2017 12:51 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 11:49 Zambrah wrote:On August 03 2017 08:45 Epishade wrote:
Do animals have a concept of ugliness?
Like, what if some horribly ugly person gets a pet dog. Will that dog treat her differently because of her ugliness than it would a person who wasn't so ugly? Maybe it won't be her friend? I believe animals have some concept of ugliness, its not often remotely close to our concept of ugliness, and even if it was they'd have to be more able to recognize human ugliness rather than whatever species they are ugliness. I think. Definitions of ugly are relative while types of perception are not universal. Why would an animal who is dependent on smell care about how another creature looked moreso than how the creature smells?
Yes, for example, a peahen might think something like "Whoa, that peacock is disgustingly ugly, look at how small and unshiny his feather crest is."
Usually, ideas of beauty are based on a lazy look at attributes which might be useful for procreation. Male Humans find female hourglass figures attractive because it suggests that they have big hips, which are good for bearing children. Peahen find shiny feathers nice, because they suggest the peacock is so amazingly fit that he can waste calories like that. A male dog probably finds a female that smells as if she is in heat most attractive.
Though generally, males are rather often fine with mating which anything that moves, while females have to be more selective due to a higher opportunity cost involved in mating.
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On August 03 2017 20:58 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 12:51 Thieving Magpie wrote:On August 03 2017 11:49 Zambrah wrote:On August 03 2017 08:45 Epishade wrote:
Do animals have a concept of ugliness?
Like, what if some horribly ugly person gets a pet dog. Will that dog treat her differently because of her ugliness than it would a person who wasn't so ugly? Maybe it won't be her friend? I believe animals have some concept of ugliness, its not often remotely close to our concept of ugliness, and even if it was they'd have to be more able to recognize human ugliness rather than whatever species they are ugliness. I think. Definitions of ugly are relative while types of perception are not universal. Why would an animal who is dependent on smell care about how another creature looked moreso than how the creature smells? Yes, for example, a peahen might think something like "Whoa, that peacock is disgustingly ugly, look at how small and unshiny his feather crest is." Usually, ideas of beauty are based on a lazy look at attributes which might be useful for procreation. Male Humans find female hourglass figures attractive because it suggests that they have big hips, which are good for bearing children. Peahen find shiny feathers nice, because they suggest the peacock is so amazingly fit that he can waste calories like that. A male dog probably finds a female that smells as if she is in heat most attractive. Though generally, males are rather often fine with mating which anything that moves, while females have to be more selective due to a higher opportunity cost involved in mating.
Well, that's oversimplifying things rather crudely. Many lizards and amphibians don't even have to choose their gender until mating--let alone develop male/female habits to maximize procreation. And the amount of rape focused evolution in various animals also shows that many of the adaptations are less about "what procreates best" and are mostly just "aspects that have survived through time, even if detrimental."
But, despite its oversimplification and enforced gender-normative narration, it also hits the nail in the head about the idea of beauty being something you can objectively say is true. Even within humans its complicated; a pedophile is not turned on by the same things as me as a crude example. Now, does that mean the Pedophile does not understand what "good looking" means, does it mean that I don't understand what "good looking" means, or does it suggest that different minds see different things as beautiful.
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I guess there is also the whole non-sexual beautiful thing that exists. A sunrise over the ocean is beautiful, but i don't want to fuck it.
But once we get into that, i think we have a totally different topic.
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Not everyone is sex crazy though. I barely want to fuck my wife, not to mention anyone else - people are gross and so is fucking. Yet I can appreciate a nice woman. Interestingly, I can't even guess which men people consider handsome.
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In a perfect world i would also have sex with your wife 7-10 times a week.
+ Show Spoiler +jk but the sunrise sounds hot af
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On a scale of 1 - 10 how dumb is it to go to grad school for art
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On August 04 2017 13:00 Zambrah wrote:
On a scale of 1 - 10 how dumb is it to go to grad school for art
You live in US, so you pay for it and make debts? 10. If you lived in EU and got it free and even paying you to do it? 1.
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It also depends a lot on the school. Looking at what the alumni do after graduating is usually a good reference.
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In Germany, if you go to art school to become an art teacher, you are basically guaranteed a job.
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If I speak no German and go to art grad school in the US can I get an art teacher job in Germany
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Depends on what type of life you're looking for with your artwork.
Are you trying to work for Pixar, Hollywood, Commercials, Theater? The art school is exactly what you want. Takes less time and energy being taught fundamentals and basic sthan it will take for you to use trial and error until you can paint/design/draw as consistently and the same way as a 200-2000 person team.
Are you trying to be an "artist" who sells your paintings? Then I'd say about 50/50 depending on current skill level.
The only thing dumber would be getting an STEM degree that isn't Computer Science in the name of practicality instead of passion.
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On August 04 2017 13:00 Zambrah wrote:
On a scale of 1 - 10 how dumb is it to go to grad school for art
It says you live in USA so don't do it. If you are interested in field and studying it and applying it in your worklife, you should find field of applied arts such as media engineer/page layout maker/anything involving adobe illustrator/indesign.
You didn't tell how young you are or if you have already been working so I just assume you are someone who has to make this decision for first time. If my assumption is right, find websites that represent average payments and field description WITH COMMENTS.
On August 03 2017 11:23 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 07:24 Yurie wrote:On August 03 2017 07:17 Ryndika wrote:On August 02 2017 11:51 Thieving Magpie wrote:On August 02 2017 03:06 Ryndika wrote:
What are good places for chatting with strangers? Preferably kind of anonymously. I've used omegle and I've never found anything as good but I really get irritated with omegle because it's filled with "ASL?" > dc people and bots.
I just want to casually talk with someone sometimes. Doesn't any bar in the world count as that as well? Or really, any place where social gatherings occur? Clubs Game Stores Concerts Coffee Shops Just head over and talk to a stranger. I don't really feel bar culture in my area. It doesn't exist or I don't understand it. I don't know any clubs and I'm not interested in their hobbies and if you mean night clubs I firmly believe those are worst places for chatting with stranger. We have one store or two if you count capital here. Those aren't for chatting but game's workshop exists and could be good if you had reason to be there. Concerts are scarce, expensive and don't play music I like until someone who likes comes here and those are special cases. Good idea tho. No one talks to random people in coffee shops.
Train rides
Plane rides
Taxi drivers
Good idea but in my culture it's hostile and rude to talk to people in those situations even if the other person would like it. You need hella good excuse to break up a convo.
Comic book shop? Are there other humans in those? I haven't actually went inside the local one, but I'm pretty sure I've seen silhouettes of people moving in there.
We have games workshop and it's pretty social place but it's too bad I'm not interested in anything that happens in there even if I do find it fun and cool.
Oh Gaming tables (poker particularly) I've had some amazing convo's there. I met an 80 yo asian woman that taught me things I can't post here... No but you could always try the outside place. I hear people walk all over there and it's not even just the ones on meth talking to themselves that will talk to you.
Poker table sounds like best idea ever. Not sure if you meant casino grounds by "outside place," but typically people are doing something for some purpose. In my entire life I don't think anyone has approached me or anyone around me(or heard of such behaviour) in any other business than asking if bus went by or asking directions. Thanks for answers guys! Public transports are a gamble of course. My father took a train a while ago and wanted to talk to the person having the seat next to him and got rebuffed. Don't know of any culture that sees it as rude unless the person has headphones on or is trying to sleep. Could you expand on the issue with some examples? Even if they are reading a book it can work to start a conversation about it if it is a longer journey where a break from the book is expected anyway. I would like more info on this as well. For most part, the americas, europe, and asia have all been friendly with either their welcome or rebuffs of conversation during mass transit, taxis, etc... I've also talked to many people in bars, coffee shops, game stores, normal stores, on the street, etc... For the most part, it sounds like he is simply seeking excuses more than seeking conversation.
Well Europe is just continent and I don't know what you've heard of Asia or which country's culture you refer to or only general? My perception differs a lot from yours regarding countries in Europe or countries in Asia. City/rural area makes huge difference too and I'm from something in-between.
You don't talk to random people here unless you need to sort something out or you are in need of help. Opening convo is natural and helping people too but keeping the convo up is extremely weird.
For example, you don't need to have conversation in a bus so you never do it. Even conversation with friends is expected to have quiet volume or everyone will hate you. Mass commute is place to be quiet and no one uses taxis more than once a year.
I'm seeking places to strike a casual conversation because I simply enjoy it. I noted preferably anonymous for more clarification because these tend to be more frank and more about topic and less about facade/presenting yourself which leads to conversation without any substance. Body language and facial expressions are very important for me but I seriously have to think why I want to have a conversation in first place and this makes me think about internet.
Could you expand on the issue with some examples? Even if they are reading a book it can work to start a conversation about it if it is a longer journey where a break from the book is expected anyway.
Where are you in first place finding people who read books? Library? I go to library and I've had casual chats there but people don't read books there and casual chats happen under circumstances or opportunities rely on them. Cultural axiom of social situations here is that you don't break anyone's private space or time or thought unless you have need for it. This doesn't apply to school or workplace tho (but I can't use this).
Don't get me wrong, I've stroke enjoyable conversation about a book I'm reading even at apothecary reception but these are extremely circumstantial.
On August 05 2017 02:39 JimmiC wrote:
I mentioned the dog park before I'm not sure if you have those in Asia, or just parks where people walk their dogs. People love talking about their dogs so if you go anywhere that they are and ask "what breed is that" "how old is it" so on then you can move on to other non dog questions but it is a easy in.
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Insanely good idea which should work everywhere in world in every continent. I'm just unlucky I don't have such dog park ((I do but it's always literally empty)) and I don't even have a cat that I could take outside. Sometimes I see a chick "walking" her cat and that there is planets being aligned for anything I want.
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On August 05 2017 02:25 Ryndika wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2017 13:00 Zambrah wrote:
On a scale of 1 - 10 how dumb is it to go to grad school for art It says you live in USA so don't do it. If you are interested in field and studying it and applying it in your worklife, you should find field of applied arts such as media engineer/page layout maker/anything involving adobe illustrator/indesign. You didn't tell how young you are or if you have already been working so I just assume you are someone who has to make this decision for first time. If my assumption is right, find websites that represent average payments and field description WITH COMMENTS. Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 11:23 Thieving Magpie wrote:On August 03 2017 07:24 Yurie wrote:On August 03 2017 07:17 Ryndika wrote:On August 02 2017 11:51 Thieving Magpie wrote:On August 02 2017 03:06 Ryndika wrote:
What are good places for chatting with strangers? Preferably kind of anonymously. I've used omegle and I've never found anything as good but I really get irritated with omegle because it's filled with "ASL?" > dc people and bots.
I just want to casually talk with someone sometimes. Doesn't any bar in the world count as that as well? Or really, any place where social gatherings occur? Clubs Game Stores Concerts Coffee Shops Just head over and talk to a stranger. I don't really feel bar culture in my area. It doesn't exist or I don't understand it. I don't know any clubs and I'm not interested in their hobbies and if you mean night clubs I firmly believe those are worst places for chatting with stranger. We have one store or two if you count capital here. Those aren't for chatting but game's workshop exists and could be good if you had reason to be there. Concerts are scarce, expensive and don't play music I like until someone who likes comes here and those are special cases. Good idea tho. No one talks to random people in coffee shops.
Train rides
Plane rides
Taxi drivers
Good idea but in my culture it's hostile and rude to talk to people in those situations even if the other person would like it. You need hella good excuse to break up a convo.
Comic book shop? Are there other humans in those? I haven't actually went inside the local one, but I'm pretty sure I've seen silhouettes of people moving in there.
We have games workshop and it's pretty social place but it's too bad I'm not interested in anything that happens in there even if I do find it fun and cool.
Oh Gaming tables (poker particularly) I've had some amazing convo's there. I met an 80 yo asian woman that taught me things I can't post here... No but you could always try the outside place. I hear people walk all over there and it's not even just the ones on meth talking to themselves that will talk to you.
Poker table sounds like best idea ever. Not sure if you meant casino grounds by "outside place," but typically people are doing something for some purpose. In my entire life I don't think anyone has approached me or anyone around me(or heard of such behaviour) in any other business than asking if bus went by or asking directions. Thanks for answers guys! Public transports are a gamble of course. My father took a train a while ago and wanted to talk to the person having the seat next to him and got rebuffed. Don't know of any culture that sees it as rude unless the person has headphones on or is trying to sleep. Could you expand on the issue with some examples? Even if they are reading a book it can work to start a conversation about it if it is a longer journey where a break from the book is expected anyway. I would like more info on this as well. For most part, the americas, europe, and asia have all been friendly with either their welcome or rebuffs of conversation during mass transit, taxis, etc... I've also talked to many people in bars, coffee shops, game stores, normal stores, on the street, etc... For the most part, it sounds like he is simply seeking excuses more than seeking conversation. Well Europe is just continent and I don't know what you've heard of Asia or which country's culture you refer to or only general? My perception differs a lot from yours regarding countries in Europe or countries in Asia. City/rural area makes huge difference too and I'm from something in-between. You don't talk to random people here unless you need to sort something out or you are in need of help. Opening convo is natural and helping people too but keeping the convo up is extremely weird. For example, you don't need to have conversation in a bus so you never do it. Even conversation with friends is expected to have quiet volume or everyone will hate you. Mass commute is place to be quiet and no one uses taxis more than once a year. I'm seeking places to strike a casual conversation because I simply enjoy it. I noted preferably anonymous for more clarification because these tend to be more frank and more about topic and less about facade/presenting yourself which leads to conversation without any substance. Body language and facial expressions are very important for me but I seriously have to think why I want to have a conversation in first place and this makes me think about internet. Show nested quote +
Could you expand on the issue with some examples? Even if they are reading a book it can work to start a conversation about it if it is a longer journey where a break from the book is expected anyway.
Where are you in first place finding people who read books? Library? I go to library and I've had casual chats there but people don't read books there and casual chats happen under circumstances or opportunities rely on them. Cultural axiom of social situations here is that you don't break anyone's private space or time or thought unless you have need for it. This doesn't apply to school or workplace tho (but I can't use this). Don't get me wrong, I've stroke enjoyable conversation about a book I'm reading even at apothecary reception but these are extremely circumstantial. Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 02:39 JimmiC wrote:
I mentioned the dog park before I'm not sure if you have those in Asia, or just parks where people walk their dogs. People love talking about their dogs so if you go anywhere that they are and ask "what breed is that" "how old is it" so on then you can move on to other non dog questions but it is a easy in. [post below me] Insanely good idea which should work everywhere in world in every continent. I'm just unlucky I don't have such dog park ((I do but it's always literally empty)) and I don't even have a cat that I could take outside. Sometimes I see a chick "walking" her cat and that there is planets being aligned for anything I want.
So far ive been able to have conversations with strangers in the US, Philippines, Hong Kong, Spain, Germany, and Italy and both in desolate rural areas as well as high urban areas. I've even been able to strike conversations with people where neither one of us had a common language and we communicated mainly through pointing at things around us and using facial expressions to convey our thoughts.
So from my direct experience between Western Europe, Central Europe, rural Asia, metropolitan Asia, rural America, and metropolitan America everyone is willing to chat with someone willing to engage with them.
So I don't understand why you pretend it doesn't happen.
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I know, it's really hard to see the world through other people's eyes and to accept that our own perception of reality isn't necessarily universal. Yet we should try to do so, deliberately, because exactly this failure is at the root of most of the social injustice - when people just completely fail to see that other people have a problem.
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On August 05 2017 03:28 opisska wrote:
I know, it's really hard to see the world through other people's eyes and to accept that our own perception of reality isn't necessarily universal. Yet we should try to do so, deliberately, because exactly this failure is at the root of most of the social injustice - when people just completely fail to see that other people have a problem.
I do understand that people often feel that they "know" how things will play out and hence convince themselves that things are not done or are not possible. Despite when people like myself come in and inform them that I have done those things, at different places, with different results. Despite a literal example presenting itself as to what actually occurs when you do something as opposed to simply believing that those actions should not be done.
Many of the world's problems comes from people who believe their conclusions are more true than the actual practices of people.
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