EPTI can draw, paint, use illustrator and Photoshop and InDesign, but it's been hard to find any jobs in my area utilizing those and I'd rather try to make the leap of professional commercial artist than dick around selling insurance for years to come
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
I can draw, paint, use illustrator and Photoshop and InDesign, but it's been hard to find any jobs in my area utilizing those and I'd rather try to make the leap of professional commercial artist than dick around selling insurance for years to come | ||
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JimmiC
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Yurie
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On August 05 2017 02:25 Ryndika wrote: Well Europe is just continent and I don't know what you've heard of Asia or which country's culture you refer to or only general? My perception differs a lot from yours regarding countries in Europe or countries in Asia. City/rural area makes huge difference too and I'm from something in-between. You don't talk to random people here unless you need to sort something out or you are in need of help. Opening convo is natural and helping people too but keeping the convo up is extremely weird. For example, you don't need to have conversation in a bus so you never do it. Even conversation with friends is expected to have quiet volume or everyone will hate you. Mass commute is place to be quiet and no one uses taxis more than once a year. I'm seeking places to strike a casual conversation because I simply enjoy it. I noted preferably anonymous for more clarification because these tend to be more frank and more about topic and less about facade/presenting yourself which leads to conversation without any substance. Body language and facial expressions are very important for me but I seriously have to think why I want to have a conversation in first place and this makes me think about internet. Where are you in first place finding people who read books? Library? I go to library and I've had casual chats there but people don't read books there and casual chats happen under circumstances or opportunities rely on them. Cultural axiom of social situations here is that you don't break anyone's private space or time or thought unless you have need for it. This doesn't apply to school or workplace tho (but I can't use this). Don't get me wrong, I've stroke enjoyable conversation about a book I'm reading even at apothecary reception but these are extremely circumstantial. Most times I find possible to discuss a book is when travelling or at work/school breaks. Specific examples I've noticed a lot of people reading outside work: Public transport (their daily commute) Long distance transport such as trains and planes Cafes (much rarer) Online there are a lot more places you can find book readers looking to interact. Just choose a genre and find a community for it. Though if you want to talk to somebody online there are plenty of services for it: https://www.google.se/search?q=find people to talk to&oq=find people to talk to As for the issue of talking on trains and other public transports. Yes that is frowned upon if you are loud here as well. Normal conversation isn't though. | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On August 05 2017 06:26 JimmiC wrote: Much irony here, are you not just believing your conclusion over his? I get it is based on your experiences, my guess is your sample size is small. And people may react different to a guest from another place. If anything I think your rebuttal just furthers opisska's point. Imagine two scientists. One does something, sees how the variables react, and then makes conclusions. Another assumes nothing should be done, then concludes his lack of doing things is the norm. Which scientist do you think is a more logical way of interacting with the world? Let's do a different example. He says no one talks where he is, and so he doesn't talk. I tried talking wherever I am, and people respond. Does that mean that people don't talk or does that mean that people you don't talk to don't talk to you? Think real hard about this. | ||
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Thieving Magpie
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JimmiC
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
On August 05 2017 06:26 JimmiC wrote: Much irony here, are you not just believing your conclusion over his? I get it is based on your experiences, my guess is your sample size is small. And people may react different to a guest from another place. If anything I think your rebuttal just furthers opisska's point. ANYTHING IS POSSIBLLLLLLLE -Kevin Garnett, Life Coach | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On August 05 2017 07:03 JimmiC wrote: The problem with this discussion and most we have with you is that you make assumptions your treat like facts and that you think you are smarter then everyone. You have no idea whether or not he "experimented" or not. And you your entire last point is built on assumption You are free to believe that humans are non-social creatures who prefer to avoid human contact, or you can believe humans are social creatures who are willing to engage in human contact. One is more likely than the other, I think is up to you which one you wish to believe. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On August 05 2017 09:23 JimmiC wrote: How you came to that conclusion about what i think from my responses to both him and you is quite amazing. You are a special boy When I say that it's up to you which one you believe--at what point am I concluding what thoughts you're having? I'm just curious since you seem to be defending yourself against my suggestion that it's up to you to believe what you want to believe. I mean, it's okay to be mad about that, it's just... it's a weird thing to be mad about. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On August 05 2017 14:01 JimmiC wrote: ROLF! Classic TM when strawman fails he goes to poisoning the well. I should really go through your posts and highlight the logical fallacies. It is impressive. I mean the volume not the quality. I mean you may as well of posted "No you" unintentional comedy is always the best. Oh? What do you think this sentence means: One is more likely than the other, I think is up to you which one you wish to believe. What conclusion do you think I am assuming you're having from that statement? | ||
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thePunGun
598 Posts
On August 05 2017 06:17 Zambrah wrote: I graduated from a prestigious art school like a year ago and I wanna make video games, but teaching myself all this software functionality is tough from scratch without wasting a shit ton of time on errors that I have to self diagnose and correct I can draw, paint, use illustrator and Photoshop and InDesign, but it's been hard to find any jobs in my area utilizing those and I'd rather try to make the leap of professional commercial artist than dick around selling insurance for years to come If you really wanna make it as an artist, you pretty much will have to dedicate your life to your craft, there's no way around it. It may sound cheesy, but you'll basically have to live breathe and die for your passion, if you want to becoma a professional. As a writer with 2 published books and the 3rd one in the making, I went through the most difficult times in my life (and that's almost an understatement), which more than once almost cost me my relationship with my girlfriend of 14 years. Glad to say, it all worked out in the end... But there where times when I found myself crushed, heartbroken, depressed and borderline suicidal (not kidding)....It's really important to stay positive and take a break when the world feels like it's crumbling around you... Funnily enough, when I take a break, I'm usually drawing or sculpting the fictional characters I create, with clay or even digitally in Zbrush, which is a must-have, for CG character artists. Every movie character, that's been created digitally (since the early 2000s) was sculpted in Zbrush and animated in Maya or Motion Builder, the main tools used in the industry. I also recommend CG community sites like http://www.conceptart.org and http://www.cgsociety.org/, which are the main hubs afaik. | ||
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AbouSV
Germany1278 Posts
On August 05 2017 14:19 Thieving Magpie wrote: Oh? What do you think this sentence means: One is more likely than the other, I think is up to you which one you wish to believe. What conclusion do you think I am assuming you're having from that statement? So I guess the following statement from you was not referring to either Jimmy nor Opisska? On August 05 2017 06:39 Thieving Magpie wrote: Imagine two scientists. One does something, sees how the variables react, and then makes conclusions. Another assumes nothing should be done, then concludes his lack of doing things is the norm. Which scientist do you think is a more logical way of interacting with the world? Let's do a different example. He says no one talks where he is, and so he doesn't talk. I tried talking wherever I am, and people respond. Does that mean that people don't talk or does that mean that people you don't talk to don't talk to you? Think real hard about this. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18356 Posts
On August 05 2017 07:32 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Are you sure that the problem isn't that he thinks he is smarter than everyone so much as he isn't. I mean the poor guy couldn't understand why thiesm is not the same as atheism or space as a...spatial concept, among other things. he is incapable of opening his mind to other people's concepts. In any case, there are people all around the world where you can strike up a conversation, but during commuter transport probably isn't the right time to do so. It's also regarded as rude to try to carry on a conversation when the other party does not wish to do so. if you want to strike up a casual conversation the best bet is to goto places where people go to have social interactions. It's not really that difficult. Commuter transport is a perfectly fine place to talk to people. Of course, you shouldn't insist on having a conversation if the person you're trying to talk to isn't interested in talking back, but that goes for everywhere. Generally speaking, people are bored in trains/buses and just waiting to get to their destination. If you are more interesting than their book/phone, you can chat with them. | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On August 05 2017 21:38 AbouSV wrote: So I guess the following statement from you was not referring to either Jimmy nor Opisska? It's about Ryndika, the guy literally saying that humans where he's from don't act like all the other humans I've met across more than one continent. JimmieC then comes in and blasts me for telling people to socialize. I then tell him he can think however he wants. That is then followed by his continual talk about how everyone has obvious fallacies. Soon enough he will come back to bragging about his friends reading his TL posts. Then he will follow up by saying his wife laughs at his TL posts. It's his favorite pattern. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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AbouSV
Germany1278 Posts
On August 05 2017 23:21 Thieving Magpie wrote: It's about Ryndika, the guy literally saying that humans where he's from don't act like all the other humans I've met across more than one continent. JimmieC then comes in and blasts me for telling people to socialize. I then tell him he can think however he wants. That is then followed by his continual talk about how everyone has obvious fallacies. Soon enough he will come back to bragging about his friends reading his TL posts. Then he will follow up by saying his wife laughs at his TL posts. It's his favorite pattern. Make up your mind. It one, or the other, not both. But thanks for removing any need of further posting at least. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
On August 05 2017 14:44 thePunGun wrote: If you really wanna make it as an artist, you pretty much will have to dedicate your life to your craft, there's no way around it. It may sound cheesy, but you'll basically have to live breathe and die for your passion, if you want to becoma a professional. As a writer with 2 published books and the 3rd one in the making, I went through the most difficult times in my life (and that's almost an understatement), which more than once almost cost me my relationship with my girlfriend of 14 years. Glad to say, it all worked out in the end... But there where times when I found myself crushed, heartbroken, depressed and borderline suicidal (not kidding)....It's really important to stay positive and take a break when the world feels like it's crumbling around you... Funnily enough, when I take a break, I'm usually drawing or sculpting the fictional characters I create, with clay or even digitally in Zbrush, which is a must-have, for CG character artists. Every movie character, that's been created digitally (since the early 2000s) was sculpted in Zbrush and animated in Maya or Motion Builder, the main tools used in the industry. I also recommend CG community sites like http://www.conceptart.org and http://www.cgsociety.org/, which are the main hubs afaik. Yeah I'm familiar with Zbrush and Maya, and I'm currently fist fighting with the Substance suite to get PBR texture work nailed down, but learning all of the interworking parts to making workable game assets is difficult when any one of the steps can be responsible for a fucked up normal bake and such. I'm not sure how doable it IS to just hard-focus on art, because while believe me I'd love to, I have lots of debt and no car, and I live in an area that requires a car to properly function in, so I feel like half the reason Id be doing grad school is to get back into an environment where Im not required to have car bills, food bills, debt bills, all up front, but obviously that shit still racks up so its like, is it worth going to school to do that? Iunno, I'ma tryina make my art life happen but 100K+ in debt is rough to overcome while also committing to making no money while working on art full time. C'est difficile... | ||
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