EPT[G] Losing Weight: My Way - Page 3
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
1- Eat 4 times every single fucking day 2- If you need to go from a department to another in campus, take a walk 3- Do capoeira 4- Eat like crazy after every single training 5- Do gym sessions 6- Go on eating like crazy 7- Lose 5 lbs after a month like that. I can't gain weight. FML. | ||
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B34ST
United Kingdom150 Posts
Or am I wrong. Cause after reading his posts in this thread I'm going to call most of his stuff completely uneducated, some of it makes sense but jesus christ.. My tutor that took me for the past 4 years I spent in College and University doing a Health and Personal Training course would call you an idiot. Holy shit. Starvation diet with 5 days of exercise, are you fucking insane? your diet alone would cause people to be 'not' healthy without serious amounts of supplementation. If a Trainer at a gym gave me that I'd get him fired! this thread should be deleted for utter bad advice. Edit: Morteth from what I've read is the guy with the knowledge. He understands it. | ||
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Bajadulce
United States322 Posts
I think a lot of times, ppl that have had issues tend to be a bit more fanatical in their new state of mind. Like the smoker that quits, the thug that becomes a bible thumping born again, or the recovered alcoholic that refuses to touch a drink years after he's been sober. Regardless.. thnx for the topic, gluck with your pursuits, and gjob for beating obesity. At 45, I am showing some early signs of that spare tire.  Always took fitness for granted being so active. Fitness just came naturally. Probably time to be a little more structured in putting effort into maintaining health. | ||
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Dalguno
United States2446 Posts
On June 02 2011 09:12 Slithe wrote: We are trying to turn the Health and Fitness thread into a sub-forum so that we can cover the wider array of interests. It's unfortunate that it is perceived as solely a weight lifting thread, and hopefully the sub-forum will help to fix that. That would be awesome. I support that | ||
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Slithe
United States985 Posts
On June 02 2011 10:06 B34ST wrote: I believe from what I've read and seen that forgotten0ne is the prime member on this forum for health and exercise advice? Or am I wrong. Cause after reading his posts in this thread I'm going to call most of his stuff completely uneducated, some of it makes sense but jesus christ.. My tutor that took me for the past 4 years I spent in College and University doing a Health and Personal Training course would call you an idiot. Holy shit. Starvation diet with 5 days of exercise, are you fucking insane? your diet alone would cause people to be 'not' healthy without serious amounts of supplementation. If a Trainer at a gym gave me that I'd get him fired! this thread should be deleted for utter bad advice. Edit: Morteth from what I've read is the guy with the knowledge. He understands it. There's always going to be plenty of self-proclaimed experts on any topic. I don't know why you assume that he is the fitness guru for Team Liquid just because he happened to create a topic on weight loss. | ||
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Arthemesia
United States292 Posts
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Wrathsc2
United States2025 Posts
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
The worst part is when your body reaches the "plateau" stage, when everything is slowed down and it gets much harder to lose weight, especially body fat. | ||
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Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
On June 02 2011 08:20 Dalguno wrote: Does TL have an actual weight loss thread? I know about the Health and Fitness thread, but that seems to be more weight lifting. Some people (lile me) lift weights to lose weight. Weightlifting is a very good way to lose fat. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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reDicE
United States1020 Posts
Compare this to changing that 4000 calories of crap to 4000 calories of “good stuff”, you might lose a little weight, but it won’t be apparent. You'll lose weight, yes, but you'd have to be 500 pounds at 6 feet tall to lose weight with a 4k kcal BMR if you don't get any exercise. (http://www.bmrcalculator.org/) is good place to calculate what your BMR is (The amount of kcalories you need to eat per day and maintain your current weight if you lay in bed all day). Otherwise, 300 pounds at 6 feet tall, you'll still gain weight even if you're eating 4k kcals of good stuff instead of the bad stuff, because your BMR is about 3k kcals. No one should aim to lose a pound a day, because some of that weight would probably be muscle. The healthy range of weight you should aim to lose is about 1-2 pounds per week. So basically, you should aim to eat 500-1000 kcals less than what your BMR+kcals burnt through exercise is. Also, I'd like to point out that if you exercise a lot per day, you need to account for that and regain those calories. For instance, if your BMR is 2k kcals, and you use 1k kcals through exercise, you should eat 2.5k kcals to reach that 500 kcal deficit (2k+1k=3k. Simple.). So when you exercise, you're basically just adding kcals to your daily "Calorie Bank". But that doesn't mean you don't need exercise. Exercise is helpful in many ways, including replacing fat with muscles. To lose a pound of fat a day, the OP would have to burn 4,740 Calories(this number includes his BMR) PER DAY based on his diet. That is just insane. Most health experts say you need to eat at least 1.5k kcals a day to stay healthy. | ||
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forgotten0ne
United States951 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On June 02 2011 10:06 B34ST wrote: I believe from what I've read and seen that forgotten0ne is the prime member on this forum for health and exercise advice? Or am I wrong. Cause after reading his posts in this thread I'm going to call most of his stuff completely uneducated, some of it makes sense but jesus christ.. My tutor that took me for the past 4 years I spent in College and University doing a Health and Personal Training course would call you an idiot. Holy shit. Starvation diet with 5 days of exercise, are you fucking insane? your diet alone would cause people to be 'not' healthy without serious amounts of supplementation. If a Trainer at a gym gave me that I'd get him fired! this thread should be deleted for utter bad advice. Edit: Morteth from what I've read is the guy with the knowledge. He understands it. you are gravely mistaken the expert is eshlow <3 | ||
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Mitchlew
Australia428 Posts
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Voltaire
United States1485 Posts
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
11739 Posts
What you're doing is telling your body that you're in a period of incredible food deprivation, and it is burning off energy-expensive muscle, in lieu of burning fat. Fat is an excellent storage mechanism for energy, and it takes very little to keep it on your body (there are no moving parts to it, it's just storage, so fat itself consumes 0 energy). All in all, extreme diets are foolish, and dangerous. I'd highly recommend that everyone on here not follow this plan. The short time of pain will turn into a lifetime of pain from a completely wrecked metabolic system. Do things the right way: stop looking for a magic bullet. Fat loss is a tiresome journey. The real pain is in counting calories, and making sure that you exercise properly. Also, I would recommend not sitting as much, if possible. I just read this article that gave some insight on just how bad excessive sitting is. This whacked out diet plan is exactly why you're supposed to check with a doctor, and a registered nutritionist before beginning a diet plan: you probably have no idea what kind of damage you're about to do to your body with your extreme dieting techniques. You may be able to get by with 2-4 weeks of this, but it is absolutely not sustainable, and the instant you increase your calorie count, your body won't know how to respond, so you will quickly add fat to your body. There are so many reasons this is wrong . . . books upon books can be (and are) written on why this is bad. | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On June 02 2011 06:59 forgotten0ne wrote: ROFLMAO you remind me of the twinkie diet.8 am – Wake up 8:30am – 2 eggs (140 calories) 10am - Jog 10:30am – Protein Powder (200 calories) 12:30pm – Skinless chicken salad (200 calories) 2:30 pm – Protein powder (200 calories) 4 pm – Gym 5:30 pm – Protein powder ( 200 calories) 7:00 pm – Fat free cottage cheese (100 calories) 11pm – Sleep Twinkie Diet: Man loses weight while eating junk food - http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=649&sid=15294655 Point is you can lose weight eating unhealthy crap with a shitty diet. Doesn't mean you should. If you wanna lose weight just talk to a real doctor IRL for a healthy diet. Then just eat a balanced diet + exercise. That's all, there's your magic trick. Just never take diet advice from the internet. From stupid people saying pseudo scientific stuff like "drink a gallon of water a day". It's very dangerous for your health to take advice from random idiots. So dangerous I think this OP should be banned for this kind of crap. Just go to a real doctor. That simple. | ||
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Voltaire
United States1485 Posts
You don't lose weight by: Lifting weights Doing situps Doing pushups Going on diets without exercising Taking pills You do lose weight via cardiovascular activity. If you are in really bad shape you should start off with powerwalking several miles at a time at least three times a week, but jogging is the typical thing most people do. Biking and swimming work too but it has to be rigorous. High intensity interval training is basically just a workout where you sprint for a period of time and then jog for an equal period of time (e.g. 30 seconds) and repeat as many times as you can. Supposedly it burns fat even faster than just standard jogging but in my opinion it is more challenging. Here is more info on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-intensity_interval_training | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
I do want to touch on the calories a little bit. You claim to be eating 1300 calories a day and only lost .5 to 1 pounds per week. That just doesn't happen, especially since your 6'3" and exercising some as well. If you were a 5' 100 pounds women then yea perhaps that would add up. 1300 calories is definitely extreme, which you recognize. Your weight loss rate however isn't anywhere near that however. A half pound per week is pretty darn slow weight loss and one pound per week is moderate. Eating 1300 calories a day should have put you much closer to 2-3 lbs a week of weight loss. It's important to realize that weight loss comes down to one thing at its core. Calories in v Calories out. 3500 calories are one pound. Therefore if you eat 2000 calories a day and burn 2500 each day you will lose one pound a week OVER TIME. Certain weeks makes show more or less, but the average will be right around a pound per week. Now, eating 1300 calories a day should put you well below 500 cals a day deficit as just the calories you need for basic living throughout the day should be 2000 minimum, probably more especially when you were much heavier. Then you add in exercise which should have had you at well over 1,000 calories per day deficit, which is 2 pounds per week. This makes me think one of two things happened. Number one is you underestimated how much you were eating OR you ate so little that your body went into a starvation state and your BMR dropped to converse energy. Be curious on your feedback. Toxins. Exercising alone is great but you are doing your body a disservice if you aren't aware of the true culprit. Your body is a very smart and efficient machine. When introduced with a burger or something that just doesn't sit well in the body, or with a food that may have more toxins than preferred, it attempts to flush those toxins out via Poo, pee, sweat, even sneezing and coughing. It also releases toxins through the skins natural respiration, not the same as sweat. If this happens over time, they accumulate. In this predicament your body can do one of two things, it can either put those extra toxins near your organs, burdening them and degenerating them, or it can put them in adipose tissue. It is simply a defense mechanism. Losing weight is very easy once you understand this. Toxins are what kill people. Toxins are what you need to get rid of. No, just no. This is wrong on so many levels. Your body doesn't "store" toxins as fat. Toxins is also a horrible word because it's absurdly vague. Are we talking poisonous chemicals, free radicals, etc? I mean put toxins "near" your organs, wtf? Please learn some basic physiology before you post misinformed nonsense like this that is blatantly untrue. Weight loss comes down to calories in vs calories out. End of story. Toxins have nothing to do with it. On June 02 2011 08:10 SolHeiM wrote: Alcohol actually contains tons of calories as well. I think a study compared a 33cl beer to a 33cl coke and the beer had almost the same amount of calories in it as the coke. But the age old saying "anything is good in moderation" sort of works. Just don't live on it and you shouldn't have any problems with your weight. Eat healthy, drink water and exercise. Very true. Alcohol has 7 cal/gram, which means a shot of alcohol has anywhere from 55-100+ calories. A good night of partying can easily cost you 500-1000+ calories. Typical beers range from maybe mid 60's for some of the lite ones to as high as 150 for your typical 12oz can. But if you have a job you can't not work during summer. You use vacation days for vacations, and sick days if your sick. Or what modification could you make to the schedual to work effectivly if 8am-4pm is taken up? I see this alot, and for most of the people I know with this problem its inefficiency of inflexibility. The modifications to eat are simple. Bring some food with you to the office, snack as needed. As far as exercise goes, you have several options. Many people are given a half hour or longer break for lunch, use this time to go do your running. If this isn't an option just wake up at 5:30, get out the door for a run and then your back by 7 or so with an hour to get ready for work. Then depending on preference you can either go do strength training right after work, or immediate after an evening meal. Day to day variation gets in the way so be flexible as needed. Some days you might not be able to lift until well after dinner, but thats not a big problem. Unless your a busy family man, I find it exceptionally hard to believe you can't fit in an hour or two of exercise sometime between 4pm and when you go to sleep. I'm 5'9" and dropped about 50 pounds in net terms (while gaining a ton of muscle) a few years ago. I'll just tell you that your diet matters more than anything else that you do. If you count calories like the OP did and limit your intake, you'll shed weight no matter how much you exercise. This cannot be emphasized enough. I have gained weight running 80 miles per week, and lost weight maybe running 15 per week at best. It's all calories in vs calories out. Exercise is important for good health, motivation, and habit formation; but in terms of weight loss it really just lets you eat more and still be able to lose weight. If I am running 70 miles a week I can eat 2500 calories a day and still lose a pound a week. With no exercise I have to eat a mere 1500 calories a day just to lose a pound a week. The only thing I'm curious about is... how do people manage to let themselves get into the situation with the catch-22 in the first place? I really do want to touch on this. I honestly think a big part of it is lack of knowledge. Most people grossly underestimate how much they are eating. They just plain don't realize that even though their diet may be okay, its straight up far, far too much food. Working in fast food places it always amazes me just how much people eat, and I am pretty much certain many of them have no idea that the amount of calories they are consuming is insane. As a result they slowly get to be maybe 10-20 pounds overweight over a few years and then its like "O Damn" but at that point it already takes alot of motivation and control to start chipping away at that. So they don't, or do for a while but then stop to their and go back to normal diet, which gains them more weight and then all of a sudden they are 40 or 50 pounds overweight and no its even more of a drastic change it get back to a healthy weight. | ||
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