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stack
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Canada348 Posts
June 29 2011 02:55 GMT
#361
can anyone please pm me on how to work the bicep, chest, tricep, back, shoulder etc?
what kind of lifting do I need to do or how else can I work these?
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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
June 29 2011 03:00 GMT
#362
Okay, now I just want to know if it's possible to lose fat while gaining muscle at the same time. I guess it's called body recomposition? So could I eat a high protein diet to maintain muscle growth while going on a 500 daily deficit to shed some fat? Would eating keto style help promote such a goal, or does my body need carbs for energy to create the muscle from protein??
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Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
June 29 2011 06:18 GMT
#363
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 29 2011 06:31 GMT
#364
I'm 100000% positive that someone has already linked TLHF in here, but I'm going to do it again anyways.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=180919#1

The misconceptions in this thread physically pain me.

Does your metabolism just mysteriously stop while you're asleep, forcing you to not eat 4 hours before bed?

Protein powder isn't useless, but it's not a end-all key to jackedness. Taken as a postworkout supplement, it'll boost your recovery time and let you train better in the long run.

The initial weight routine in the OP seems incredibly ineffective; leg training with heavy weights encourages so much overall muscle growth that, as a beginner, it'd be comparable to steroids.

An article writer on T-Nation and holder of every certification under the sun (something he readily admits doesn't mean he's competent at all; he's a practitioner of results through trial and error) has told me that if you skip breakfast, your metabolism isn't "slowed" at all. It's just like how eating 6 small meals over a day doesn't "boost" your metabolism either. It's just used to help get the larger amounts of calories that bodybuilders/athletes require for sustained performance.

Finally, eat your fucking eggs. I swear to god if I see a single post about egg cholesterol being bad for you that doesn't have several pubmed links to back it up, I will take a sniper rifle to the bell tower next to your house.
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StickNMove
Profile Joined June 2011
United States16 Posts
June 29 2011 07:00 GMT
#365
On June 28 2011 16:28 Karliath wrote:
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On June 28 2011 16:11 StickNMove wrote:
Wow, I cant believe what I have just read. I got to page 5 before I just couldnt read anymore. There is so much BS being thrown around in this thread that I dont even know where to start if I should even start at all. I am actually glad that I read a few posts where people called them out on it, but many have still been untouched.

Anyone who is curious about high protein diets please listen carefully. There are NO STUDIES that prove eating more than 2g of protein a day (per kg of your body weight) has any kind benefit. In fact, going over this limit can lead to higher LDL's, (the bad cholesterol), calcium loss, and kidney disease for those with kidney problems. So if you're 170 lbs thats 77.11 kg x 2.0g = 154g of protein. Don't listen to anyone who says you should consume anymore than what I have told you unless they are a medical expert giving you medical advice. This is widely known in the Nutrition world, and anyone who knows anything about the human body could tell you this.

Whoever said "dont trust anyone giving you health advice on the internet" was absolutely right. I think that's great that we are discussing health on this forum and promoting those idea's but if you dont have any kind of research to back up your claims you should really refrain from giving "advice". I invite anyone who actually is curious or passionate about health to take a class or two in nutrition before they start following advice on the internet.


I don't necessarily disagree with anything you have said, but you do sound like just the hypocrite.

1) You tell people not to trust health advice on the internet after giving your own health advice on the internet.

2) Despite promoting the importance of having research to back up one's claims, the only proof you provide yourself is that what you've said "is widely known in the Nutrition world, and anyone who knows anything about the human body could tell you this."

Without getting into whether your 'advice' is backed up by the "Nutrition world" or not, don't you think that most other people who post here believe themselves to be correct, and believe their information to be "widely known in the Nutrition world, and anyone who knows anything about the human body could tell you [the same thing]" as well?


I did agree with the notion previously said about not trusting anyone on the internet giving health advice. And I stand by that agreement, which is much different than me plainly saying not to trust health advice on the internet (which you accused me of stating).But it also seems as if you are a little confused about the meaning of trust so I will break it down for you. Your friend tells you "Do not trust Johnny when he is giving you advice". This means that you should take everything that Johnny says with a grain of salt. This doesn't mean that everything he has to say is moot and he should always be ignored. Essentially johnny can give you great advice, but not trusting someone is about being cautious and sifting through the information that you hear or read.

Sure, I did give some advice meant as a warning to those who seem fairly clueless. So what? I also promoted the idea for people to check for themselves and speak with a medical expert. And my advice is no exception to the rule. Did I say my advice was an exception? No, I didnt. So what's the big problem? You shouldn't blindly believe any advice whether it is me, you, or the Easter Bunny's.

You obviously don't understand hypocrisy if you are claiming me to be a hypocrite. If I told you not to believe all of the advice you hear on the internet, would I be a hypocrite because I have just given you that advice? No, I wouldn't because there is no specific claim that I have made which I myself have violated or neglected. I'll let you look up and try to comprehend hypocrisy by yourself without me since I do not have the interest or time to explain this issue to you further.

Your second point about having research to backup a claim is valid, but there are exceptions. I explained that it is a widely known fact within the Nutrition world, which means it requires no citation. And therefore I did not provide direct proof. If you are unfamiliar with it, it is your own fault and instead of crying about it you should look for the information yourself. Irf you still do not understand let me simplify this even further. You write a paper about Barack Obama, do you need to cite in your paper that he is the President of the United States? No, you wouldn't. That's because it is a widely known fact and does not require proof. And just as I have said in my original post, my advice was based on a widely known fact and therefore I did not need to cite a source. If you don't believe me, then great, go look for yourself like anyone in your position should do.

All you're really doing is looking for someone to argue with and I'm really not that interested in continuing.
StickNMove
Profile Joined June 2011
United States16 Posts
June 29 2011 07:52 GMT
#366
Another misconception within this thread that is that exercise is just exercise and calories are just calories. False. Different exercises target different sources of energy within your body based on many factors, like the amount of oxygen you are receiving. Here is a perfect example...

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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 29 2011 16:59 GMT
#367
On June 29 2011 11:55 stack wrote:
can anyone please pm me on how to work the bicep, chest, tricep, back, shoulder etc?
what kind of lifting do I need to do or how else can I work these?


chin-up, bench press, bench press, deadlift, overhead press

also, you accidentally forgot to mention legs so i'll go ahead and say squatz for you as well
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