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TL Health and Fitness Initiative 2011

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eshlow
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Last Edited: 2011-09-02 18:50:42
January 01 2011 00:53 GMT
#1
Welcome to the Teamliquid Health and Fitness Initiative for 2011

The main goal of this thread is to focus on improving our bodies in two aspects:

1. Health -- Sleeping, eating, and destressing habits;
2. Fitness -- improving body composition and physical attributes (through exercise, training, athletics, and sports).

>> First, a quick reminder or lesson on how exercise and nutrition affect each other.

All links are underlined and clickable and highlighted with ">>"

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Goals
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Goals should be SMART goals:

Specific -- have numbers
Measurable -- so you can be encouraged by your progress
Attainable -- to develop the proper attitude and consistency
Realistic -- so that you are willing and able to work towards them
Timely -- to give a sense of urgency

This is the template we had last year. We will use it again.

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Name/nick
Age: XX || Height: X'X" or m/cm || Weight: lbs/kg
Starting Date: xx/xx/xx || Goal Date: xx/xx/xx
Weight goals -- [insert here]
Training goals -- [insert here]
Nutrition goals -- [insert here]
Misc goals -- [insert here]

You can post your goals in this thread or keep your own training log.

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Information on working out and training
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A quick synopsis of exercise and training for beginners.

Exercise and training are two different things. Exercise is physical activity for its own sake, a workout done for the effect it produces today, during the workout or right after you're through.

Training is physical activity done with a longer-term goal in mind, the constituent workouts of which are specifically designed to produce that goal. If a program of physical activity isn't designed to get you stronger or faster or better conditioned by producing a specific stress to which a specific desirable adaptation can occur, you don't get to call it training. It's just exercise. For most people, exercise is perfectly adequate – it's certainly better than sitting on your ass channel-surfing.
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For a novice, any program is better than no program at all, so all of them work with varying degrees of efficiency. This is why everybody thinks their program works, and why you'll always find perfectly honest testimonials for every new exercise program on TV or the Internet. But nothing works as well as a moderate mathematical increase in some loading parameter each time, for as long as an adaptation to the increase continues to occur, because it's specifically designed to produce both stress and adaptation.

Strength is the basis of athletic ability.

-Mark Rippetoe in this article

Thus,

1a. Weights for the beginner (those looking to gain muscle and/or strength)

If you are new to working out and your goal is muscle mass and strength, Starting Strength is one of the best routines you can do. I would strongly suggest purchasing the book because it has at least 40-50 pages on squat technique alone along with the other technical aspects of the lifts that will help you make optimal progress. The writeup, however, is online in the link below.

>> Buy Starting Strength -- great on basic lifting technique & gaining mass and strength.
>> Starting Strength wiki
>> Starting Strength 2nd edition PDF
>> Why Starting Strength? -- the novice effect

The Stronglifts 5x5 program is a classic alternative to Starting Strength if desired. Another helpful writeup on this program.

TL member testimonials on above programs:
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On June 19 2011 07:41 Malinor wrote:
I decided that I am done with Starting Strength after todays workout. I only resetted my squat once, but the frequency of missed lifts got pretty high lately. The day after tomorrow I will also visit my parents for one week, and I don't have the best training environment there. And finally, I believe one deloading week in between is probably a very smart thing to do. I am not 18 anymore
And what better time to start a new programm after a deloading week.

Therefore, I decided to max out on squat and deadlift today:
squat: 190x1 200x1 205x1 210x1 215x1 and 220kgx1 (150x6 afterwards)
Bench: 80kg 5-5-5 (still easy)
deadlift: 210x1 220kgx1 and finally failed 227,5kg, which would have been 502lb.

Maybe I am maxing out on overhead press tomorrow if I find the time. So next week is gonna be deload. Then I will start with Texas Method and work my way up to my actual 5RMs within four weeks, to acclimate myself with the new programm. So I won't hit new PRs for the next six weeks.

Final SS numbers (5RM):
Squat: 185kg
Press: 78,5kg
Deadlift: 190kg
BO-Row: 91kg (stopped 2 weeks ago)
Bench: 80kg (obviously not my max, didn't bench much because of my shoulder injury)
Power Clean: 72,5kg (3RM, also not my max, since I only started two weeks ago)


Starting Strength log
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Date Squat Bench Press Dead BO-Row
26.Feb 90 x x 90 x
01.Mar 95 x 40 x 50
03.Mar 100 40 x 100 x
05.Mar 102,5 x 42,5 x 55
07.Mar 105 x x 105 x
09.Mar 107,5 x 45 x 60
11.Mar 110 50 x 110 x
13.Mar 112,5 x 50 x 62,5
15.Mar 115 55 x 115 x
17.Mar 117,5 x 52,5 x 65
19.Mar 120 60 x 125 x
22.Mar 122,5 x 55 x 67,5
24.Mar 125 i x 130 x
26.Mar 127,5 x 57,5 x 70
30.Mar 130 i x 135 x
01.Apr 132,5 x 60 x 72,5
03.Apr 135 i x 140 x
05.Apr 137,5 x 62,5 x 75
08.Apr 140 i x 145 x
11.Apr 142,5 x 63,5 x 77,5
13.Apr 145 i x 150 x
16.Apr 147,5 x 65 x 80
19.Apr 150 i x 155 x
21.Apr 152,5 x 66 x 81
23.Apr 155 i x 160 x
26.Apr 157,5 x 67,5 x 82,5
28.Apr 160 i x 165 x
30.Apr 162,5 x 68,5 x 83,5
03.Mai 165 i x 170 x
05.Mai 166 x 70 x 85
07.Mai 167,5 i x 175 x
10.Mai 168,5f x 71 x 86
12.Mai 168,5f 60 x 177,5 x
14.Mai 152,5 x 72,5 x 87,5
17.Mai 155 62,5 x 180 x
19.Mai 157,5 x 73,5f x 88,5
21.Mai 160 65 x 182,5f x
24.Mai 162,5 x 73,5 x 90s
26.Mai 165 67,5 x 182,5 x
28.Mai 167,5 x 75 x 90
31.Mai 170 70 x 185f x
02.Jun 172,5 x 76 x 91
04.Jun 175 72,5 x 185 x
P.Clean
07.Jun 177,5f x 77,5 x 67,5
09.Jun 177,5 75 x 187,5 x
11.Jun 180 x 78,5f x 70
14.Jun 182,5 77,5 x 190 x
16.Jun 185f x 78,5f x 72,5
18.Jun 1RM 80 x 1RM x
(220) (220)

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Squat, Press, Bench and BO-Row: 3(Sets)x5(Reps)
Deadlift: 1(Set)x5(Reps)
Power Clean: 5(Sets)x3(Reps)
i=injury
f=fail
s=same weight next session (i.e. form issues)
all weights in kilogram


All in all, I never expected the past four months to be that productive.


To be continued....

1b. Weights for the beginner (looking to lose weight)

See the above section.

Why not cardio? Why not lots of reps for toning?
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Good questions.

If you skipped over the link in the beginning read it now:

>> First, a quick reminder or lesson on how exercise and nutrition affect each other.

Cardio

Cardio at its heart is a very weak at best at stimulating fat loss. For newer people to exercise, especially those looking to burn fat, cardio is very ineffective. You'll burn maybe 200-300 kcals per mile of exercise at best. Compare this to 3600 kcals in 1 lbs of fat we see at best you'll have to be running 12-18 miles just to burn one pound of fat. As a beginner even a couple miles is daunting, and people are expected to do at least this much for 1 lbs of fat?

This is why losing weight is done in the kitchen. There's a lot of pervasive myths in the fitness industry but when they say that "abs are made in the kitchen" that is actually true.

Weight training provides a stimulus for building muscle. Muscle is very hard to build because it requires lots of calories to actually build the muscle. If diet is strictly controlled, the body derives its energy from burning your fat mass to build the muscle. So in effect, you can "build muscle" and "lose fat" at the same time. (The caveat is that there is diminishing returns the leaner you get).

Therefore, for newer people looking to lose fat it is advisable to lift heavy weights and make sure your nutrition is in order. Weights are superior over cardio (which is about 15-20% of the equation), and nutrition makes up the rest (which is about 80-85% of the equation) in losing weight.

Don't get me wrong, cardio can be used effectively in some populations. However, for the average person looking to lose fat and/or gain muscle this is not one of them.

Light weights and high repetitions for toning

Toning is bullshit. What does it mean anyway to look more toned or defined?

Light weights high repetitions for toning is a huge myth that is pervasive in the fitness industry.

When you boil it down to the facts, "toning" just means you want to lose fat (to see your muscles) and/or make your muscles bigger. So basically when you say you want to "tone" you want to gain muscle and/or lose fat.

1. High repetitions works endurance. It does not put on muscle mass. Strike one.
2. High repetitions does not burn much fat. Just like cardio doesn't. Strike two.
3. There is no such thing as spot reduction. That is to say that doing endless amounts of situps does not make your abs more defined.

You have to put sufficient stress on a muscle to get it to grow. That is much easier done with heavy weights in the 5-8 repetition range (which, incidentally, is about the best repetition range for hypertrophy).

If you thought light weights and high repetitions was going to lose you fat mass you're sorely mistaken. If an hours or two of cardio burns less than a pound of fat mass, how do you think that a 30 minute workout of light weights and high repetitions (which is essentially what cardio is for the legs) is going to burn any significant amount of fat mass?

Therefore, for newer people looking to lose fat it is advisable to lift heavy weights and make sure your nutrition is in order. Weights are superior over cardio (which is about 15-20% of the equation), and nutrition makes up the rest (which is about 80-85% of the equation) in losing weight.

Testimonials of eliminating cardio from TL members:
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DimmuKlok:
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On June 18 2011 05:52 DimmuKlok wrote:
Hello everyone!

I reached my weight loss goal that I set for myself when I originally posted in this thread(Although I forgot to be specific). My goal was to reach 250lbs by June and I'm at 247lbs as of today. That's 33lbs lost since I started posting here and 63lbs lost total.

Since I've reached my initial goal and I'm still not satisfied yet, I'm going to make my next goal to be 220lbs before September.

On August 13 2011 02:29 DimmuKlok wrote:
Hello everyone, I'm back again with another update.

I quoted my last update for convenience. As of today I am 219.5lbs, meaning I reached my goal of hitting 220 by September! I'm very happy about this achievement. That's 90.5lbs lost so far from when I started in mid December at 310lbs.

I'm still not quite done, though. My next goal is to be 200lbs by Jan 1st of 2012. This goal I wasn't even sure could happen. When I first started losing weight I really only wanted to see if I could get to 250lbs, and if I could, then try to get to 230. Here I am at 219.5 and I'm looking at 200 being the ultimate goal. I have no idea what I'll look like when I do reach 200 because I've been overweight for so many years, but I'm eager to find out.

As for pictures, I don't have any right this moment but I do plan on uploading some. I will probably upload some before my next update (200 lbs) and for sure by Nov when everyone's supposed to post pictures. ^^

Thanks for reading everyone, and good luck with your own goals!

On August 13 2011 16:01 DimmuKlok wrote:
I started off just eating less than I normally ate, although not changing what I ate, and going to the gym daily to use an elliptical for an hour. This was before I found this thread and before I did much research on getting fit. I lost 30lbs doing this but it started to get really hard to lose additional weight. I was convinced that all I needed to do to lose additional weight was to do even more cardio.

Then I found TL H&F. I received tons of helpful information from the OP and from asking question in the thread. I eventually came to the conclusion that what I was doing was inferior. I started SS and eating as Paleo as possible, all the while watching my caloric intake. I was worried at first because up until then I thought cardio was the only way to lose weight and the more cardio you did the more weight you lost. But I was wrong.

I stopped doing cardio completely and relied on my diet to lose weight. I was happily surprised to find that I was losing weight even faster than I was before, and it was a lot easier than doing cardio for a couple hours everyday. SS helped with the weight loss too, but I mostly love SS for all the strength gain. I've been doing SS and eating Paleo(ish) ever since and have lost 90.5lbs so far, with 110lbs as my goal.

I strongly recommend anyone that wants to lose weight to try out the Paleo diet. There's a lot of helpful information about it in the OP and I've had nothing but success with it.


Rest in progress...


2. Weights for the intermediate (those looking to gain mass and/or strength):

Why is there no weight loss section?
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This is because losing fat and getting into shape are all part of the beginner phase of training.

As long as you have significant amounts of fat mass, you can generally make extremely good gains in both losing fat, gaining strength, and gaining muscle at the same time. Thus, having any appreciable amounts of body fat still makes you a "beginner" in training.

If you are offended at being called a beginner or novice this is not something you should be worried about! You should be able to make very good progress. This is not something to be "upset" about over being labeled into such a category.

And yes, people that have been in the gym for 10+ years can still be beginners. It's not how long you've been training, it's how effective your training has been in regards to your overall results.


If you have been training a while and your lifts in the basic compounds such as squat, deadlift, power cleans, do not exceed 2x bodyweight you can try some of the classic advanced novice or intermediate programs listed in the spoiler and link below.

>> After Starting Strength Programs

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Practical Programming Novice Program:

Monday
Squat 3x5
Bench press/press 3x5
Chin-ups: 3 sets to failure or add weight if completing more than 15 reps

Wednesday
Squat 3x5
Press/bench press 3x5
Deadlift 1x5

Friday
Squat 3x5
Bench press/press 3x5
Pull-ups: 3 sets to failure or add weight if completing more than 15 reps

Witchita Falls Novice Program:

Monday
Squat 3x5
Bench press/press 3x5
Pull-ups: 3 sets to failure or add weight if completing more than 15 reps

Wednesday
Squat 3x5
Press/Bench press 3x5
Deadlift 1x5

Friday
Squat 3x5
Bench press/press 3x5
Pendlay rows 3x5
(some information has pullups instead of pendlay rows)

Practical Programming Advanced Novice Program:

Week 1

Day 1
Squat 3x5
Bench press 3x5
Chin-ups: 3 sets, weight added so failure occurs at 5 to 7 reps

Day 2
Front squats 3x5
Press 3x5
Deadlift 1x5 (more sets may be added due to reduced frequency)

Day 3
Squat 3x5
Bench press 3x5
Pull-ups: 3 sets to failure, unweighted

Week 2

Day 1
Squat 3x5
Press 3x5
Chin-ups: 3 sets to failure, unweighted

Day 2
Front squats 3x5
Bench press 3x5
Power clean 5x3

Day 3
Squat 3x5
Press 3x5
Pull-ups: 3 sets, weight added so failure occurs at 5 to 7 reps

(Credit to Tim Donahey writing this up as well as the SS wiki)


3. Bodyweight exercising for the beginner and intermediate

>> Fundamentals of bodyweight strength training.

Many more resources are located in the spoiler below.

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Setting and Achieving Goals -- Multitude of good goals and potential exercises

DrillsAndSkills lists many good exercises. Roger's articles are also a gold mine for some of the particular techniques and nuances that need to be developed as well.

Jim's Beast Skills site has many skills that people want to strive for as well.

Coach Sommer's Building the gymnastic body has 100+ pages of picture demonstrated exercise progressions. I would recommend this if you are serious about bodyweight training.

In addition, he has put out various lists including his selection of top 5 gymnastics exercises that he recommends developing as well as a multitude of essays and videos.

Levski's the gym press is a great technical resource for coaches and athletes.

Gymnastics Coaching is a blog about all things gymnastics, sports acro, etc.

Lots of information about the circus arts -- more in the realm of hand balancing, trapeze, tight rope walking, etc.

Gymnastics FIG code of points -- tells you the skill ratings for all of the technical skills on all apparatus in mens gymnastics.

Equipments

As always we strongly recommend that you obtain a pullup bar and a set of rings. For most people, the things that work best are a doorway pullup bar and a good pair of rings. Cheaper set of rings

Wood rings: http://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-wood-rings.php

The rings may be hung off of the pullup bar, so you do not need to find somewhere outside to hang them unless you so desire.


4. For the women

For the few women on our site, you should know that lifting weight is actually good for you. Well, I'll let some videos do the talking for me.

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Heck, do searches for yourself like this:
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http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=female+strength+high+school

Remember, form (e.g. physique) follows function (e.g. training for sports/athetics). If you train an a female athlete in the weight room you will start to look like one. And I would sincerely hope that you would rather be fit and athletic than super skinny/anorexic like society wants you to be.

Read section 1b above for reasons on why cardio and low weight with high repetitions are ineffective for losing fat or other weight loss goals.

5. Other fitness/health resources

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http://www.exrx.net/Exercise.html
http://www.cathletics.com/exercises/index.php
http://www.crossfit.com/
http://www.elitefts.com/

Specific questions about athletics and sports may be asked to our resident experts from the TeamLiquid Manpower thread:

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Sports
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Martial arts
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Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu (BBT) - r.Evo
Dutch style kickboxing - statix
Goju-Ryu karate - GW.Methos
Jeet kune do - statix (basic)
Jiu-Jitsu (Brazilian) - CommanderFluffy, iPF[Div], Priapus, statix
Kali - statix (basic)
MMA
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Conditioning - statix
Nutritional supplements - statix

Muay thai - never_toss, statix
Mixed Martial Arts - iPF[Div]
Ninjutsu - r.Evo
Qi gong - r.Evo
Tae Kwon Do - iPF[Div]
Tai chi - r.Evo

Solo sports
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Archery - Lamentations, laikomg
Badminton - Kau, exalted
Billiards (Pool) - deverlight
Boxing - never_toss
Climbing
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Bouldering - travis

Fencing - MisteR, tree.hugger
Golf - thedeadhaji, Lemonwalrus, Sadist, FaCE_1
Gymnastics - eshlow, fanatacist
Sailing
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Dinghy - sRapers_ValkS

Olympic weightlifting - aon.dimsum
Skateboarding - larjarse
Skating - WillOw
Skiing (cross-country) - CDRdude, Mykill
Swimming - CommanderFluffy
Tennis - ZaplinG
Wrestling - Priapus

Nutrition and athletics - Foucault
Team sports
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American football - SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Baseball - rekluce, Unbelievable237
Basketball - rekluce
Cricket - GTR-2-Go
Cross country - vx70GTOJudgexv
Dragon Boat - CommanderFluffy
Floorball - LemOn
Hockey - FaCE_1
Paintball - krazymunky
Sailing
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Monohull - sRapers_ValkS

Soccer - CommanderFluffy, never_toss, Lenwe, fanatacist
Ultimate frisbee - Hot_Bid, ZaplinG, icystorage, vx70GTOJudgexv, larjarse


Workout
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Bodyweight exercises - eshlow
Strenth and muscular exercises - larjarse
Long distance running - Titusmaster6, vx70GTOJudgexv
Cardiovascular excercises - larjarse
Weightlifting - Yogurt, decafchicken, eshlow
Weightlifting especially in football - DeathByMonkeys
Supplements - eshlow

Injuries - eshlow, OOl

OOI:

"I'm a physical therapy student with some decent knowledge of weight-training, MMA, brazillian jiu jitsu, sports-related injuries, posture-related issues, some computer-health issues and weightloss. (such as my carpal tunnel thread, see here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=113336"


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Nutrition and eating well
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Nutrition and health is variable in general. Everyone has different genetics and thus what works well for someone else may not work well for you. Include allergies and all of the junk foods in our culture into the mix and you have to be very careful what you are eating especially if you want to be healthy.


1. Nutritional guidelines

Recommended book on nutrition:
>> The Paleo Solution -- Robb Wolf

A couple quick reads on how to eat healthy

>> Eat real food is the key to being healthy.
>> Here's something a bit more specific.


2. Practically, here are two good shopping lists

>> Shopping list 1
>> Shopping list 2

+ How to

>> Quick Start guide
>> Food matrix

3. Keeping track of your eating habits

>> Logging your food is one of the better ways analyze the quality and quantity of your nutrition.

If you are having a hard time gaining or losing weight in particular, or poor health and looking to eat healthier then doing this is a very good idea.

It doesn't matter when you eat so much as what you eat.

4. Other recommend nutrition sites

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http://robbwolf.com
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/
http://whole9life.com/
http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/
http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.com/
http://freetheanimal.com/
http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/
http://donmatesz.blogspot.com/
http://drbganimalpharm.blogspot.com/
http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/
http://diabetesupdate.blogspot.com/
http://ryan-koch.blogspot.com/
http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/cholesterol-blog.html

>> http://www.leangains.com/ >> is a poster in this thread

>> Another useful user recommend thread


5. Other supplemental recommendations

Supplements beneficial for overall health -- fish oil, Vitamin D.

Supplements beneficial for mass gain -- creatine, whey & casein, BCAAs, glutamine, carnitine, eating a lot of food, sleeping well

Supplements beneficial for losing weight -- proper weight training and eating well; there are no short cuts. Eating right is 80-90% of the equation!!

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Miscellaneous
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1. Sleep is extremely important for overall health as well as improving gains in body composition and sports. Get at least 7-8 hours if not more in a pitch black room with no noise and cool ambient temperature.

2. Destress. Massages are great. Be disciplined in your daily life. Don't procrastinate. Don't let little things bother you. Again, get into a daily routine.

3. For those of us who use the computer a lot, the blue screen glow interrupts our circadian rhythm a lot leading to insomnia, anxiety, and other sleep related disorders.

There are certain programs that can tint the screen to mimic the sun going down and lead to better sleep. F.lux is one of them.... if you're on the computer a lot and not outside using something like this would be recommended.

>> F.lux
>> More on better sleep
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~elimination of sounds
~elimination of electronic devices / outlets / plugins near body
~pitch black room
~cool, dry room (60-65 or so degrees is good if possible)

~stay away from artificial light sources (e.g. computer) at least 1 hr before sleep
~eat a meal, preferably with healthy fats and a decent amount of carbs, before sleeping (e.g. NO JUNK FOOD).

~single leg stand to exhaustion with both legs (it actually works really well)
~spine lengthening before sleep (see Esther Gokhale's stuff)
~general exhaustion from physical activity like hiking, pickup games of stuff, lifting, etc.
~Deep breathing exercises
~Deep tissue massage

~magnesium may help (via ZMA or natural calm)
~melatonin helps some people
~phosphatidylserine (anti-cortisol)
~5-HTP (tryptophan deriv)
~L-theonine
~Vitamin D (taken during the day..)
~valerian root



Thank you for reading, good luck with your goals. Feel free to ask questions and get motivation in this thread!!

Some specific debate(s) that have occurred in this thread:
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Multi post on gluten, saturated fats, milk, vitamin D, and cholesterol:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=9382380

relationship of diabetes with alzheimer's (type 3 diabetes) plus lecture on neurodegenerative diseases, cancer, and a bit about auto-immunity:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=9929243
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=9929851

efficacy of low carbohydrate vs low fat diets... why low carbohydrate diets are superior for weight loss and correcting metabolic dysfunction (diabetes, heart disease, neurodegenerative disease, infertility, etc.):

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=11185776
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=11187342
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
January 01 2011 00:55 GMT
#2
Finally, it's done. I rewrote last years topic into a more streamlined post.

Hope you guys find it useful and enjoy. Feel free to PM me if you got anymore links that you think should be added anywhere.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
January 01 2011 01:06 GMT
#3
yay go eshlow :D

aon.dimsum
Age: 21 || Height: 5'4" || Weight: 65kg
Starting Date: 12/31/10 || Goal Date: 12/31/11
Training goals -- I want to hit 100kg snatch and 125kg clean and jerk. I didnt hit my squat goals last year so i want to hit it this year. 170 back squat and 140 front squat.
Nutrition goals -- none
Misc goals -- stay healthy!! no more injuries
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 03:06:38
January 01 2011 01:07 GMT
#4
Necosarius
Height: 166 cm || Weight: 80 kg
Starting Date: 20110101 || Goal Date: 20111231
Weight goals -- 70 kg
Training goals -- Getting strong, more flexible and explosive!
Nutrition goals -- Getting healthier, more vegetables and less soda.
Misc goals -- I want to get to 65-70 kg before the summer and try to keep the same weight for the rest of the year
xJupiter9x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States150 Posts
January 01 2011 01:27 GMT
#5
Jupiter
Height: 5'5" || Weight: 150 lbs
Starting Date: 1/1/2011 || Goal Date: 12/1/2011
Weight Goals: 138 lbs at 5%ish body fat to wrestle at 133.
Training Goals: Gain strength, flexibility, and endurance.
Nutrition Goals: Eat healthier and drink more water.
Misc Goals: Push the kids I am coaching to make it to state.
Brainslug
Profile Joined June 2010
20 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 01:49:21
January 01 2011 01:29 GMT
#6
Nice job.

I generally recommend the Rogue wooden FIG rings now over the EXF rings you posted. They're cheaper too - http://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-wood-rings-45.php

I also feel you should mention the GymnasticBodies WoDs too, but maybe this is a little secret I'd like to keep to myself. Robb Wolf probably deserves a bigger reference too.

Stephen's vitamin D article (along with all the others) on eatmoveimprove is excellent. Softgel D3 (don't buy D2, it's useless!) is the most bioavailable form - see this paper. As for fish oil, make sure you count DHA+EPA only - ALA sucks. And because it's so commonly asked, the cheapest deals on vitamin D and fish oil are found at iHerb.

Vitamin D - http://www.iherb.com/Healthy-Origins-Vitamin-D3-10-000-IU-360-Softgels/21298
Fish oil - http://www.iherb.com/Nature-s-Answer-Liquid-Omega-3-Deep-Sea-Fish-Oil-EPA-DHA-Natural-Orange-Flavor-16-fl-oz-480-ml/7908

You can use code IMO162 to get $5 off your first order (disclaimer: I feel a little dirty posting it, but that's my code - I get a small discount off my next order if you use it).

Let me know if you find anything cheaper - https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ar10Nl_B4qttdFlMSlU2ckdfSmd2U1p2OURWTmlSWVE&hl=en#gid=1 is a cost comparison spreadsheet. I'd be interested if anyone can find a cheap fish oil that has a DHA:EPA ratio closer to 1:1, or even skewed towards higher DHA.
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 04:55:25
January 01 2011 01:30 GMT
#7
Here we go again ;D.

RosaParksStoleMySeat
Age: 25 || Height: 6'3/192 cm || Weight: 205 pounds/91kg
Starting Date: 01/01/2011 || Goal Date: 12/31/2011
Weight goals: 95kg at 10% body fat
Training goals: Stronger, faster, better. I want to squat 375, deadlift 450, and bench 280 by the end of the year. Also, 20 unassisted consecutive pull ups would be nice.
Nutrition goals: Get back on paleo after this one week of terrible eating and stay on it. 90% clean, 10% cheat.
Misc goals: I don't want to get sick anymore. I want my lifestyle to lead to clear skin for the first time in my life. I want to sleep eight hours a night and not let anything stress me out too much.
Vanity goals: Six pack, sick cuts everywhere, 18" biceps, and a V shape.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 01:35:23
January 01 2011 01:32 GMT
#8
ShaLLoW[baY] (Edward)
Age: 19 || Height: 6'0" || Weight: 87kg / 191lbs
Starting Date: 12/31/10 || Goal Date: 12/31/11
Training goals -- Start Olympic lifting, keep improving my dead/squat/bench, increased cardio fitness

Current lifts:
Squat: 340x1
Bench: 245x3
Deadlift: 425x1

Nutrition goals -- less drinking

Misc goals -- own decaf at life
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
metzGRR
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden86 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 02:32:10
January 01 2011 01:40 GMT
#9
Age: 19
Height: 185 cm
My weight is irrelevant to me since Im slim, Im simply going to focus on other things.

Goals:

- Get flexible. This is mostly preparation for the future. I feel like if I start now I will have an good advantage.

- Get durable. I want to develop strength in places like my back, shoulders, neck, hips, etc and get a natural well balanced strong body.

- Drink less Coca Cola and eat less meat. I also want to learn how to not hate fish.

Im probably going to combine flexibility with some sort of martial arts, im thinking muy thai maybe since I assume it gives you fast legs and strong hips. If anyone has tips on stretching, flexibility and martial arts which help you in these fields I will always listen.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
January 01 2011 01:41 GMT
#10
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 01 2011 10:29 Brainslug wrote:
Nice job.

I generally recommend the Rogue wooden FIG rings now over the EXF rings you posted. They're cheaper too - http://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-wood-rings-45.php

I also feel you should mention the GymnasticBodies WoDs too, but maybe this is a little secret I'd like to keep to myself. Robb Wolf probably deserves a bigger mention too.

And because it's so commonly asked, the cheapest deals on vitamin D and fish oil are found at iHerb. Stephen's vitamin D article (along with all the others) on eatmoveimprove is excellent.

Vitamin D - http://www.iherb.com/Healthy-Origins-Vitamin-D3-10-000-IU-360-Softgels/21298
Fish oil - http://www.iherb.com/Nature-s-Answer-Liquid-Omega-3-Deep-Sea-Fish-Oil-EPA-DHA-Natural-Orange-Flavor-16-fl-oz-480-ml/7908

You can use code IMO162 to get $5 off your first order (disclaimer: that's my code - I get a small discount off my next order if you use it).

Let me know if you find anything cheaper - https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ar10Nl_B4qttdFlMSlU2ckdfSmd2U1p2OURWTmlSWVE&hl=en#gid=1 is a cost comparison spreadsheet.



GB wods are ok if you're intermediate... not exactly the greatest for beginners.

Added Robb & other blogs to the nutrition section + rings in the bodyweight section
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 01 2011 02:01 GMT
#11
On January 01 2011 10:40 metzGRR wrote:
- Get durable. I want to develop strength in places like my back, shoulders, neck, hips, etc and get a natural well balanced strong body.


Deadlift.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Brainslug
Profile Joined June 2010
20 Posts
January 01 2011 02:12 GMT
#12
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 01 2011 10:41 eshlow wrote:
Added Robb & other blogs to the nutrition section + rings in the bodyweight section


Sweet. Everyone should definitely check out paleonu, wholehealthsource and high-fat-nutrition if they aren't aware of them.

The two links to the Coach Sommer posts are broken though - there's an unfortunate "amp;" in the urls. Anything that slizzardman posts there can be considered pure gold as well.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 02:19:07
January 01 2011 02:12 GMT
#13
My name is Travis. I am 6' and around 170-175lbs.

Eshlow has been showing me The Way for about 2 years now.

My end of the year goals for this year are as follows

1.) A full front lever for about 5 seconds.
2.) Straddle Planche for 5 seconds.
3.) Manna, perhaps with iffy form but enough that people who saw it would go "holy shit".
4.) Investing heavily in CELL TECH

My goals for June(basic training time) are:

1.) 80 pushups in a minute
2.) 80 situps in a minute.
3.) 15 pullups in a minute (pretty much there already)
4.) 1.5 mile run in 8:30


GL HF
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 02:24:06
January 01 2011 02:22 GMT
#14
it's that time of the year again!

unknown.sam
height: 166cm (5'5)
weight: 145lbs (65kg)
start date: 03/01/2011
end date: 03/01/2012
training goal: reach 75-80% (108-120lbs) bodyweight press. +30-40% bodyweight dips - stopped doing these for whatever reason last year.

bring it on yo!
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
January 01 2011 02:23 GMT
#15
On January 01 2011 11:12 Brainslug wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 01 2011 10:41 eshlow wrote:
Added Robb & other blogs to the nutrition section + rings in the bodyweight section


Sweet. Everyone should definitely check out paleonu, wholehealthsource and high-fat-nutrition if they aren't aware of them.

The two links to the Coach Sommer posts are broken though - there's an unfortunate "amp;" in the urls. Anything that slizzardman posts there can be considered pure gold as well.


Fixed.

If there's other broken stuff let me know
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Stereotype
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States136 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 02:32:52
January 01 2011 02:28 GMT
#16
Rob A.
Age: 25 || Height: 6'2" || Weight: 185 lbs
Starting Date: 01/10/11 || Goal Date: 07/15/11
Weight goals -- I want to be down to 170, without losing muscle mass.
Training goals -- Get involved again with swimming and cardio, I used to swim competitively 8 years ago and I miss it.
Nutrition goals -- Drink far less soda and caffeine (no more than 1 coffee/soda per day)
Misc goals -- Stop obsessing about how fat I am (I'm really not, but....)
Imagine there's no heaven. It's easy if you try. -- John Lennon
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 01 2011 02:35 GMT
#17
fuck ya! I was waiting for this to happen, good job.

I'm going to post my goals in a few, after drinking for new years

GL everyone
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
January 01 2011 02:46 GMT
#18
DragOn / Alex
Age 21 / Height 6'2 / Weight 160 lbs
Starting Date: Jan1st 2011 Goal Date: April 1st 2011/Dec 31st 2011

Weight Goals: Gain as much weight (muscle) as possible between now and april, then go back to eating maintenance as outdoor soccer starts so that I lose any fat gained during that period.

Training Goals: Squat 300, DL 350, Bench 200, Press 150. Cant decide if these should be end of year goals or something I can get by april..I failed miserably at my last goal of squatting 225 by today - did something to my back while DLing (still need to see a chiropractor about that..) and then got sick just as I felt like it was ok to lift again :/
Current lifts: Squat 170, DL 225, Bench 110, Press 70

Nutrition Goals: Continue eating Paleo, find out how to cook meat better and make tastier meals. Especially stuff i can bring to work. Dont do stupid shit like eating half a kg of nuts with only a sip of water right b4 bed..

Misc Goals: get enough sleep without having to sleep in and miss workouts. dont stress over stupid shit. be more confident in myself. concentrate on form before weight on all lifts.
aka DragOn[NaS]
ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 04:12:01
January 01 2011 02:55 GMT
#19
ShAsTa
Height: 181 cm || Weight: 83 kg
Starting Date: 1/1/2011 || Goal Date: 31/12/2011
Weight Goals: lose +- 5% bf
Training Goals: Bench 120kg, squat 170 kg, DL 200kg
Nutrition Goals: Eat healthier
If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 17:36:26
January 01 2011 03:01 GMT
#20
Cambium

Age 23 / Height 5'11 / Weight 174 lbs

+ Show Spoiler [old goals] +

Starting Date: Jan 04, 2010 (when the school gyms open again)
Goal Date: Late April (when I take a trip to Cancun, hopefully)

Current Lifts (5x3 cleared):
Squat: 225
Bench: 195
Deadlift: 275
Press: 120 (is this abnormally low?)

Target Weight:
I've been doing SS since late August, and I am hoping to either cut now, or around late Jan. I don't have a particular goal weight in mind, but I'm hoping for around 1113% BF. I think I'm probably around 13-14 16 (was way off) right now (pic below).

Training Goals:
- Stick with my current SS schedule while cutting. I'm planning on incorporating either clean or snatches. I will get the forms down soon, hopefully.
- Basketball at least once a week
- Swimming (during winter) and jogging (when warmer) a few times a week

Misc Goal:
I have early classes next term (8:00 AM), so it's absolutely crucial that I force myself to sleep earlier.

Pic as of 12/31/10 (after two weeks of non-training and eating!)
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Pic as of 01/21/11 (right before cutting)
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Pic as of 02/06/11 (two weeks in)
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Pic as of 03/05/11 (one week after Chicago...)
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Pic as of 03/28/11 ("Bulked" a week at home during Spring Break, lolfail )
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Pic as of 04/12/11 (this is after my Cancun trip, should've taken on before >.< gonna start bulking after this)
+ Show Spoiler +
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As of May 17, 2011
Squat: 260 (5x3)
Bench: 185 (5x3 easy)
Deadlift: 335 (5x1)
Press: 130 (5x3)
Power Clean: 155 (not cleared)

Goals, by end of July
Squat: 305
Bench: 225
Deadlift: 375
Deadlift: Work on form, maybe 315 with perfect form!
Press: 155
Power Clean: 195

Misc goals:
1. learn snatches
2. yoga at least 4 times a week

Pictorial Progress:
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Pic as of 05/25/11 (174 lb)
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