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I'm 5'9" and dropped about 50 pounds in net terms (while gaining a ton of muscle) a few years ago. I'll just tell you that your diet matters more than anything else that you do. If you count calories like the OP did and limit your intake, you'll shed weight no matter how much you exercise.
For what it's worth, my diet/routine included eating a meal only at lunch, drinking protein shakes in the morning and in the evening, and going to the gym daily for weight training. My daily caloric intake was probably about 1000 calories per day -- more or less. I didn't really care about what I ate at lunch. I ate basically whatever I wanted because it really didn't matter as long as I didn't binge eat. I also did quite a bit of salsa dancing (laugh all you want, but that's where the hot chicks were, including my wife).
EDIT: Cut out as many non-water beverages as possible. This includes minimizing your alcohol intake. You can easily save yourself hundreds of calories per day by taking this one simply step. That said, I broke this rule all of the time because I was in law school and required coffee (ie latte's from Starbucks) regularly.
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I have such a hard time drinking so much water. Thanks for the writeup though.
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On June 02 2011 08:16 Robonord wrote:Can you go into details of why water is so important? I have a really hard time drinking that much water in a day. If I knew the science behind it I might be motivated more.  Thanks.
If ur an unmotivated shitbag like myself - just keep a glass in ur room and fill it up in the sink when u need a drink cuz its closer than the kitchen.
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Does TL have an actual weight loss thread? I know about the Health and Fitness thread, but that seems to be more weight lifting.
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On June 02 2011 08:13 Mafs wrote:Show nested quote +8 am – Wake up 8:30am – 2 eggs (140 calories) 10am - Jog 10:30am – Protein Powder (200 calories) 12:30pm – Skinless chicken salad (200 calories) 2:30 pm – Protein powder (200 calories) 4 pm – Gym 5:30 pm – Protein powder ( 200 calories) 7:00 pm – Fat free cottage cheese (100 calories) 11pm – Sleep *Snacks of almonds, peanuts, and a random fruit (200 calories over the day) were dispersed throughout the day It should be understood that this is very extreme, and walks a thin line in regards to health. However, following this regiment, I was losing 0.5-1 lb. a day.
Let's say you have an full time office job, or school. How would you be able to follow this schedual (specfically the 10am-4pm time) The average work time per day is like 7am-4pm. 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. I'm currently in school so during the summer I try to exercise alot more. I go biking from 10am-11am. Something like that. I didn't really set a diet so I didnt lose weight but turned fat--> muscle a lot. But if you have a job you can't not work during summer. You use vacation days for vacations, and sick days if your sick. Or what modification could you make to the schedual to work effectivly if 8am-4pm is taken up?
Unfortunately it's not as easy for some to find the time as others. As I suggested in my guide, determine how many times you can pull yourself away. Every time you eat, it should be for a purpose. Make use of every chance, and if you only have 3 chances in the day, then make the best use of it. The nice thing about protein shakes is that you can keep a couple pre-mixed bottles in a backpack, and drink them anywhere.
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I hope nobody sees this as a plug. This does pertain to weight loss, and I'm just informing of my way, how I managed to do it. I guess its a bit like cheating, although I think it has to do with working intelligently, so you work less.
Structured water is biophysical equal to spring water. In fact, it IS spring water. Since it is organized, it hydrates better, and assimilates nutrients better. I also was able to successfully stop my masterbation addiction with this. (for people who aren't aware, 3+ a week will lead to chronic inflammation, and lead to adrenal fatigue and hormonal imbalances + more)
The water is also anti-pathogenic, so quite literally I can go out right now, have sex with a hooker, contract AIDS and the AIDS virus will die. This water has successfully cured AIDS. No joke, study is here. “The Physiological Effect of MRET Activated Water on Patients Suffering from AIDS” by Igor Smirnov, Ph. D., Explore Magazine, Vol. 15, No 2, 2006, USA.
Your body is made up of water in two forms, Intra-Cellular (fluid inside the cells) and Extra-Cellular (fluid outside the cells). All energy comes from the water in your cells. Being hydrated in your cells is what will give you that energy and performance you need and are looking for.
Accelerated hydration Increased oxygenation Muscles producing more power Increased endurance Less cramping in muscles No “sloshing” feeling in the gut Faster recovery Enhanced nutritional supplement absorption Helps detoxify Serves as a powerful anti-oxidant Promotes cellular communication
Honestly half of you will disregard this or flame it but I've never felt happier, stronger, and more positive in my life. I'm also at a point where I'm going to run a marathon. And I used to weigh 240 pounds 6 months ago. You guys might say that is a lot of weight to lose in a short time and things might be a bit excessive but with your body mass being so much water and having all your water being structured, it simply makes everything you do more efficient. I feel more mentally aware, more mentally acute and I actually don't even get mad any more. I am more patient and I was always a very impulsive person as a child.
Before you discredit this, simply check out these websites for reference. I'm pretty sure if you are going to take a supplement, take this. It isn't a supplement exactly, but it makes EVERYTHING you do with your body MORE efficient. Its logical. Why work harder, for less.
Studies on this water
http://www.cocoonnutrition.org/catalog/page_MRET.php
http://www.all3sports.com/product_info.php?pName=base-performance-nutrition-base-water&jsenabled=1&osCsid=8e302f61558269c8a0f5cb7835f42fcf
http://ferrisholding.com/structuredwater.html
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On June 02 2011 08:13 Mafs wrote:Show nested quote +8 am – Wake up 8:30am – 2 eggs (140 calories) 10am - Jog 10:30am – Protein Powder (200 calories) 12:30pm – Skinless chicken salad (200 calories) 2:30 pm – Protein powder (200 calories) 4 pm – Gym 5:30 pm – Protein powder ( 200 calories) 7:00 pm – Fat free cottage cheese (100 calories) 11pm – Sleep *Snacks of almonds, peanuts, and a random fruit (200 calories over the day) were dispersed throughout the day It should be understood that this is very extreme, and walks a thin line in regards to health. However, following this regiment, I was losing 0.5-1 lb. a day.
Let's say you have an full time office job, or school. How would you be able to follow this schedual (specfically the 10am-4pm time) The average work time per day is like 7am-4pm. 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. I'm currently in school so during the summer I try to exercise alot more. I go biking from 10am-11am. Something like that. I didn't really set a diet so I didnt lose weight but turned fat--> muscle a lot. But if you have a job you can't not work during summer. You use vacation days for vacations, and sick days if your sick. Or what modification could you make to the schedual to work effectivly if 8am-4pm is taken up?
Make a schedule based on the simple rules of exercise in the morning, regular meals so you don't go around feeling hungry for prolonged periods of time. Going hungry for two hours is horrible for your overall metabolism. Eating five times a day with breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, dinner and perhaps something before you go to bed is what you want to do. Try to never, ever go hungry. That doesn't mean you should feel full all the time, it means you shouldn't have your stomach growling.
Put 30 minutes into exercising in the morning, some jogging for 15 minutes and then 15 minutes back, shower, eat, drink and then go to work. If all you do is sit in an office you have plenty of options to have a healthy snack in between getting to work and lunch time. And then once you finish work the first thing you do is hit the gym. Simple.
You don't need a diet, you just need to watch what you eat. That doesn't include counting calories by the way, because it's unnecessary. Just eating healthy and not indulging in crap is enough.
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My dad always said you wanna lose weight eat less and move more that's about it this guide points that out perfectly nice job
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8 am – Wake up 8:30am – 2 eggs (140 calories) 10am - Jog 10:30am – Protein Powder (200 calories) 12:30pm – Skinless chicken salad (200 calories) 2:30 pm – Protein powder (200 calories) 4 pm – Gym 5:30 pm – Protein powder ( 200 calories) 7:00 pm – Fat free cottage cheese (100 calories) 11pm – Sleep *Snacks of almonds, peanuts, and a random fruit (200 calories over the day) were dispersed throughout the day It should be understood that this is very extreme, and walks a thin line in regards to health. However, following this regiment, I was losing 0.5-1 lb. a day.
Extreme is right. That's 1240 calories a day with almost no real food. If you're going to do this, you better be taking quite a few supplements. Also, be careful what kind of protein powder you use, as some are unsafe. In fact, in the US, no supplements or protein powders are regulated. You're trusting the company to provide a safe product. Don't just trust the labels either. Do some research.
I've been out of shape the past couple years, but I used to be very into fitness. This plan looks downright unsafe to me. You're better off eating more (and more actual food) while also increasing exercise. Talk to a doctor if you're thinking of following this exact plan. If you're losing anywhere near 1 pound (0.5 kg) a day for more than about a week or two after starting, something is wrong.
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Your story is almost exactly like mine, was 19 6'3 300+lbs. Then i met someone who also lost 100+ pounds. He showed me pictures of before and after and it seriously motivated me. I started drinking nothing except water and started doing light cardio. Got a weight set and a boxing bag as a birthday present. I could barely walk 1/4 a mile and could barely do 1 push-up (i still remember how sore i was). Nowadays i am 23 170lbs have great cardio and can do 150+ consecutive push-ups. Finding the right motivation is the key, i kept it in my head that my life and happiness will improve as my body did. Great guide, i 100% agree with it. hope it motivates someone to start changing their lifestyle for the better!
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Cool guide. Even though it's about weight loss, which I'm not interested in since I'm not overweight, I still read the entire post. The ideas can surely be applied to a whole bunch of different goals in life.
The only thing I'm curious about is... how do people manage to let themselves get into the situation with the catch-22 in the first place?
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On June 02 2011 08:36 Roija wrote: Your story is almost exactly like mine, was 19 6'3 300+lbs. Then i met someone who also lost 100+ pounds. He showed me pictures of before and after and it seriously motivated me. I started drinking nothing except water and started doing light cardio. Got a weight set and a boxing bag as a birthday present. I could barely walk 1/4 a mile and could barely do 1 push-up (i still remember how sore i was). Nowadays i am 23 170lbs have great cardio and can do 150+ consecutive push-ups. Finding the right motivation is the key, i kept it in my head that my life and happiness will improve as my body did. Great guide, i 100% agree with it. hope it motivates someone to start changing their lifestyle for the better!
Yeah, motiviation is important. Getting torched by a girl was what did it for me.
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On June 02 2011 08:33 Omnipresent wrote:Show nested quote +8 am – Wake up 8:30am – 2 eggs (140 calories) 10am - Jog 10:30am – Protein Powder (200 calories) 12:30pm – Skinless chicken salad (200 calories) 2:30 pm – Protein powder (200 calories) 4 pm – Gym 5:30 pm – Protein powder ( 200 calories) 7:00 pm – Fat free cottage cheese (100 calories) 11pm – Sleep *Snacks of almonds, peanuts, and a random fruit (200 calories over the day) were dispersed throughout the day It should be understood that this is very extreme, and walks a thin line in regards to health. However, following this regiment, I was losing 0.5-1 lb. a day. Extreme is right. That's 1240 calories a day with almost no real food. If you're going to do this, you better be taking quite a few supplements. Also, be careful what kind of protein powder you use, as some are unsafe. In fact, in the US, no supplements or protein powders are regulated. You're trusting the company to provide a safe product. Don't just trust the labels either. Do some research. I've been out of shape the past couple years, but I used to be very into fitness. This plan looks downright unsafe to me. You're better off eating more (and more actual food) while also increasing exercise. Talk to a doctor if you're thinking of following this exact plan. If you're losing anywhere near 1 pound (0.5 kg) a day for more than about a week or two after starting, something is wrong.
I think its great what you are doing, but I have to agree that this diet really is really really extreme. 1240 calories a day is below what the body needs to function properly. You will probably lose alot of weight, but going this route, you are actually losing alot of muscle mass as well. if you go below your metabolic resting rate or whatever its called in English, your body is using muscles for fuel.
How long did it take you to lose your weight?
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On June 02 2011 08:44 teamsolid wrote: Cool guide. Even though it's about weight loss, which I'm not interested in since I'm not overweight, I still read the entire post. The ideas can surely be applied to a whole bunch of different goals in life.
The only thing I'm curious about is... how do people manage to let themselves get into the situation with the catch-22 in the first place?
Evolution has taught your brain to do everything in its power to consume as many calories as possible and hold on to all the fat it can store. This turns out to cause weight gain when you are constantly presented with more food than is healthy to consume.
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I'm currently on a training regime which emphasizes running before weights. I still do weights, just not as much as I used to, its mainly to keep my upper body from becoming flabby. As for a diet, I can't really do it. I can't be that guy, weighing my food in the evening, counting calories. Fuck that shit. Best I've been able to do is just be aware of what I'm eating, I pick chicken and fish over pasta and fries and I eat a bag of nuts in between each meal to keep my metabolism going.
I have a concern though. See my stomach specifically is kinda flabby. Large ball of flesh. What's gonna happen to the skin when I lose my excess weight? I've seen severely obese guys look like they're wearing a t-shirt five times their size when they quickly drop weight, and they require surgery to become normal. Granted, I'm nowhere near that fat, just something like 10-15 kilos overweight, but I'm still a little anxious.
What's gonna happen to my skin if I lose my overweight?
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I recommend Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl
I'd also strongly recomend this book. It's one of the most inspiring things I've ever read, and inspiring in a very REAL sort of way. It's not a feel good chicken soup sort of book.
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On June 02 2011 09:10 DavidMcF wrote:http://www.leangains.com/LeanGains - the ultimate fasted training to make you ultra ripped
Leangains is amazing. Definitely a pioneer in efficient, successful weight loss. Keeping it off and really excelling at being ripped. Found out about it 9 months ago and it has served me real well.
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On June 02 2011 08:20 Dalguno wrote: Does TL have an actual weight loss thread? I know about the Health and Fitness thread, but that seems to be more weight lifting.
We are trying to turn the Health and Fitness thread into a sub-forum so that we can cover the wider array of interests. It's unfortunate that it is perceived as solely a weight lifting thread, and hopefully the sub-forum will help to fix that.
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