EPTSuicide in Korea - Page 13
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JamesJohansen
United States213 Posts
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
On May 26 2011 06:00 JamesJohansen wrote: Its extremely sad... but I cant help but wish more people were this driven Isnt this an oxymoron? You think its sad that people commit suicide, but you want other people to drive themselves towards suicide? | ||
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
On May 26 2011 05:57 dreamsmasher wrote: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2172rank.html you were saying? china is also an industrializing country, the United States is a 1st world country. keep that in mind. the United States actually sends about a comparable % of its population to prison as China as well, which is really quite sad, given those same circumstances. Unrelated, but can you watch BBC iPlayer in your country? Louis Theroux did a good documentary on a US Prison 3 years ago (think it was called San Quentin), and he's doing another one now into some massive jail in Florida, with part 1 up now on iPlayer. It's pretty insightful, I had no idea. | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On May 26 2011 05:57 dreamsmasher wrote: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2172rank.html you were saying? china is also an industrializing country, the United States is a 1st world country. keep that in mind. the United States actually sends about a comparable % of its population to prison as China as well, which is really quite sad, given those same circumstances. I know China is an industrializing country. But that really doesnt factor into the wealthdistribution. on the chart you posted US and China are 4.6 points apart from each other which in a chart that goes from 100 to 0 is not that much in my eyes and Hong Kong is even worse than US, but I am no statistics student so maybe it's a big gap | ||
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Mawi
Sweden4365 Posts
i havent done my homeworks for several months and i accept the fact i might pass or not :S i should really stop slacking... some people have it worse than me it | ||
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dreamsmasher
816 Posts
On May 26 2011 06:13 Deadeight wrote: Unrelated, but can you watch BBC iPlayer in your country? Louis Theroux did a good documentary on a US Prison 3 years ago (think it was called San Quentin), and he's doing another one now into some massive jail in Florida, with part 1 up now on iPlayer. It's pretty insightful, I had no idea. i was born in the U.S., but I have a lot of relatives that live in China. most of my cousins who have immigrated to the United States comment that the 'no free speech allowed', while true is not really as bad as the western media makes it out to be. slipping by the national firewall is extremely easy, and most of the 'lies' that the Chinese govt spreads are actually not really believed by most of the populace. all i'm saying is i've experienced both worlds before and it is very easy to judge the other side of the fence believing your side is more green. | ||
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dreamsmasher
816 Posts
On May 26 2011 06:15 Skilledblob wrote: I know China is an industrializing country. But that really doesnt factor into the wealthdistribution. on the chart you posted US and China are 4.6 points apart from each other which in a chart that goes from 100 to 0 is not that much in my eyes and Hong Kong is even worse than US, but I am no statistics student so maybe it's a big gap hong kong is actually very capitalist, as it falls in the british tradition ~. industrialization most certainly has a lot to do with income distribution. i think if you think critically (soemthing i guess us asians just aren't good at right), you would be able to figure it out. | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On May 26 2011 06:20 dreamsmasher wrote: hong kong is actually very capitalist, as it falls in the british tradition ~. industrialization most certainly has a lot to do with income distribution. i think if you think critically (soemthing i guess us asians just aren't good at right), you would be able to figure it out. as the US almost has the same index it cant have a significant role. Unless you want to tell me that the US is a third world country | ||
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dreamsmasher
816 Posts
On May 26 2011 06:32 Skilledblob wrote: as the US almost has the same index it cant have a significant role. Unless you want to tell me that the US is a third world country industrialization generally is a step where a nation is moving from primarily an agricultural based economy to a manufacturing based economy aka people who less than one generation ago were struggling in rice fieldd etc... now working as factory workers etc... there just aren't enough resources to provide for the 'luxuries' that people in 1st world countries take for granted. generally countries which are good & services based economies are able to provide these things for its citizens because basic needs are more easily met, that's why if you look at that list, the top of the list is generally occupied by developing countries (with a few exceptions, South Africa i guess/United States), while more developed countries are harmed by this less (Western Europe). in fact the United States has similar income distribution to some very poor Latin American countries, it just isn't as apparent due to its size. | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
a country that is mostly agricultural can have a high or low gap in the distribution, it all comes down to how the production profits are distributed among its people. Same is true for industrialized countries. This is why you have Namibia so high on that chart for example. They have masses of poor landworkers or farmers and only a few very rich mine corporations this is how you make a gap. If you wanted to close that gap you'd have to make everyone profit from the mining corporations and not just a few. Same would be true if Namibia had one big land owner, it's the same principle. | ||
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
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Penke
Sweden346 Posts
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Zuxo
Sweden395 Posts
Ohh, I just got sad ;(. Dealing with school pressure in Sweden which is quite relevant to me does not even compare. Well it kind of depends of what you choose to study in high school and later on. If you want to become a doctor in Sweden I would say it is coming near the amount of pressure that seems to exist in Korea. The high standards that exists in Sweden is probably why we are in the top in SC2 right now (foreigner scene ofc). Just my thoughts about it anyways. | ||
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xarthaz
1704 Posts
On May 26 2011 04:27 dreamsmasher wrote: this is also just patently false. ukraine's GDP per capita is ~$3k, russia around $14k, kazakhstan ~$10k. i dont know where you got those figures from, but its just wrong. korea is also substantially smaller than most eastern bloc countries with a huge population density. wtf are you talking about. in addition most of these countries have access to things like oil (central asia is full of it), rare earth elements and natural resources, all of which korea does not have access to. Old data. Russia is hitting 20k per capita as we speak, Estonia $19,000 (2011 est.). And remember, these numbers are after the massive contractions of the recession | ||
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MeteorMash
United States54 Posts
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
On May 26 2011 07:48 MeteorMash wrote: solution? move to america! my boss doesnt even know what a homonym is much less how to use them correctly! Are you and your boss English teachers or something? | ||
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dreamsmasher
816 Posts
On May 26 2011 07:47 xarthaz wrote: Old data. Russia is hitting 20k per capita as we speak, Estonia $19,000 (2011 est.). And remember, these numbers are after the massive contractions of the recession they are still exceptions to the rule (estonia, probably due to a myriad of other factors which i listed), Russian educational system is still extremely competitive GDP/capita isn't the only indicator of economic progress as well, you might as well say Hong Kong trumps them all then with 45k/capita? | ||
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Watershed-
Netherlands27 Posts
On May 25 2011 22:15 ipx wrote: And what does South Korea achieve by putting that much emphasis on these tests? Some will succeed some will fail, but this is poor measure of a person's ability. All you are doing is manufacturing an army of worker drone robots with the same ability to repeat other people's ideas. I think the application process for universities should be way more general and seek to find well rounded individuals with original ideas not just those who can regurgitate stuff from books with efficiency. Having well rounded individuals with original ideas does not go well with a collectivist society and a powerful state. There is a reason the education system is fucked up: Mainstream institutions can't survive otherwise. | ||
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Foxx1
United States57 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
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