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Keep it civil guys.
Alright I am sick of warning people: Trolling, flame baiting, and derailing will result in insta bans.
The same goes for conspiracy theorists and stupidity generally.
Confirmation was as follows
- On-site DNA test which came back as 99% positive.
- photos of face sent to CIA and confirmed with photo analysis
- confirmed by 20 year old wife who live in pakistan.
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On May 02 2011 23:06 e4e5nf3 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 23:04 plated.rawr wrote:
There's no doubt - he had it coming. I will not be mourning his death, but I won't be celebrating it either. In general, celebration of forced death is abominable, and for this case specifically, the irony is overwhelming in addition to the general disrespect of humanity. I'm sure it's already been pointed out hundreds of times in this thread already, so I won't bother going further in on why it is ironic.
While this is a great symbolic victory for the american army, which undoubtably will fuel the fervor of both civilians and combatants on all sides, this doesn't really change anything. Afghanistan is still forced to endure oppression and forced commercialization. It's civilians are still oppressed by both occupants and paramilitary organizations. Al Quaeda can still use Bin Laden's name in it's cause, but as a "martyr" instead of as a "powerful leader". Mid-East politics are still explosive.
In fact, I think this can have more real negative effects than real positive effects. The symbolic victory for american forces which will cause a tremendous moral boost to armed forces as well as civilians supporting the "war on terror" will have equal if not stronger effects on the other side of the conflict, and can be used to incite even more agression towards the occupants and their allies. This can also be the last straw on the camel's back, with the camel here being Pakistan - if the US in any way try to enforce sanctions or any such against Pakistan as a form of "punishment" of Bin Laden being within their borders, this conflict will escalate even further.
I'm sure the US arms industry is enjoying themselves, though. True. The queen bee is dead, but the hive is still alive, with future queen bees in the making.
Hopefully none with the potential of the one that just died
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On May 02 2011 23:01 Smokey459 wrote:
Just to throw my 2 cents in. I believe the reason it was rush rush was to appease the religious aspect of it. Sort of like damage control. According to Muslim law the body must be put to rest within 24 hours. So they rushed big whoop, probably will be repercussions but not as bad as if we put the body on display in the center of town or something. Which i would loved to see.
I think it's best the way it happened, Bin Laden can't be made to be some godamned martyr hero who spent all this time fooling the US, he is just a really bad guy we killed in a mansion.
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On May 02 2011 23:07 HereBeDragons wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 22:56 meegrean wrote:On May 02 2011 22:53 TanGeng wrote:On May 02 2011 22:48 feanor1 wrote:On May 02 2011 22:47 zatic wrote:On May 02 2011 22:39 Serelitz wrote:On May 02 2011 22:39 busbarn wrote:
Anyone else suspicious to why they dumped him in the ocean? Tortured body into oblivion hidden for us? You can never know for sure but I think it's also to make sure he doesn't become a martyr. What I am wondering though - why the hurry? Between the reports that he was shot (about 16 hours ago) and that they dumped his body in the ocean (about 6 hours ago) they didn't have a whole lot of time. From the location of the raid it's probably about 300 km to the nearest US base in Afghanistan. From there it's over 2500km to the coast. They were REALLY in a hurry to get rid of that body it seems. Islamic tradition requires burial within 24 hours They didn't have to bring the body onto a ship. If they kept it in Afghanistan, Osama could have a grave site. A sea burial seems to be way to remove a grave site as well as dispose of the body. The other thing is that DNA verification happened fast. Whatever kind of DNA lab it was, it was quick. It was probably just preliminary. Even so, I wouldn't be surprised if the US military has the technology to perform quick DNA testing. I would be surprised if the military world has higher advancement than anyone directly involved in the forensics field is already using. I highly doubt such technology you speak of really exists. Reality is not a replay, you can't just speed up things magically. I'm no expert, but it shouldn't it involves some kind of comparison between the samples' nucleotides, and then look for a similar pattern? Problem is, how did they handily obtained a sample or a record of Bin Laden's DNA beforehand? Newspaper/any media won't tell you every little detail, but it sounds quite fishy to me.
His sister Died in Boston recently, they have a sample from her to compare to. Why do so many people feel that the US would fuck something up this huge. If Obama announced it he is 110% sure it is confirmed as Osama. The political ramifications of him being wrong would be HUGE
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On May 02 2011 21:33 Tabula`Rasa wrote:
Sigh...Europe - the land of false pretences. As an Asian who has lived in both Europe and America, from a neutral point of view, the Americans should at least be given some credit for their honesty. Anecdotally, Europe is one of the most xenophobic, racist places for an Asian person to be in. Yet Europeans insist on pretending that they like everyone with their fundamental rights spiel. This thread is a perfect reflection of the contradiction that is Europe.
If Team Liquid had a like button like Facebook you sir would be getting my like!
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On May 02 2011 23:07 HereBeDragons wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 22:56 meegrean wrote:On May 02 2011 22:53 TanGeng wrote:On May 02 2011 22:48 feanor1 wrote:On May 02 2011 22:47 zatic wrote:On May 02 2011 22:39 Serelitz wrote:On May 02 2011 22:39 busbarn wrote:
Anyone else suspicious to why they dumped him in the ocean? Tortured body into oblivion hidden for us? You can never know for sure but I think it's also to make sure he doesn't become a martyr. What I am wondering though - why the hurry? Between the reports that he was shot (about 16 hours ago) and that they dumped his body in the ocean (about 6 hours ago) they didn't have a whole lot of time. From the location of the raid it's probably about 300 km to the nearest US base in Afghanistan. From there it's over 2500km to the coast. They were REALLY in a hurry to get rid of that body it seems. Islamic tradition requires burial within 24 hours They didn't have to bring the body onto a ship. If they kept it in Afghanistan, Osama could have a grave site. A sea burial seems to be way to remove a grave site as well as dispose of the body. The other thing is that DNA verification happened fast. Whatever kind of DNA lab it was, it was quick. It was probably just preliminary. Even so, I wouldn't be surprised if the US military has the technology to perform quick DNA testing. I would be surprised if the military world has higher advancement than anyone directly involved in the forensics field is already using. I highly doubt such technology you speak of really exists. Reality is not a replay, you can't just speed up things magically. I'm no expert, but it shouldn't it involves some kind of comparison between the samples' nucleotides, and then look for a similar pattern? Problem is, how did they handily obtained a sample or a record of Bin Laden's DNA beforehand? Newspaper/any media won't tell you every little detail, but it sounds quite fishy to me.
Osama was detained many years ago. 1970s? 1980s?
That is how the DNA sample was obtained
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On May 02 2011 23:03 e4e5nf3 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 22:53 TanGeng wrote:On May 02 2011 22:48 feanor1 wrote:On May 02 2011 22:47 zatic wrote:On May 02 2011 22:39 Serelitz wrote:On May 02 2011 22:39 busbarn wrote:
Anyone else suspicious to why they dumped him in the ocean? Tortured body into oblivion hidden for us? You can never know for sure but I think it's also to make sure he doesn't become a martyr. What I am wondering though - why the hurry? Between the reports that he was shot (about 16 hours ago) and that they dumped his body in the ocean (about 6 hours ago) they didn't have a whole lot of time. From the location of the raid it's probably about 300 km to the nearest US base in Afghanistan. From there it's over 2500km to the coast. They were REALLY in a hurry to get rid of that body it seems. Islamic tradition requires burial within 24 hours They didn't have to bring the body onto a ship. If they kept it in Afghanistan, Osama could have a grave site. A sea burial seems to be way to remove a grave site as well as dispose of the body. The other thing is that DNA verification happened fast. Whatever kind of DNA lab it was, it was quick. Traditional DNA testing averaged about 24-72 hours, but in recent years crime labs have gotten faster at DNA identification, with the more advanced labs getting the job done in as little as 4 hours. I'm sure the US government has better equipment and specialist that could do the job in less time than that even.
You need to bring the sample to this laboratory first. I've never heard of a mobile DNA test kit that can give you the same quality like a laboratory.
I don't know if there's have such a laboratory in Pakistan or near there, if not you'd have to fly the sample to the laboratory first. And they'll run dozens of tests for a result that is so important to not being wrong/contaminated or something else.
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On May 02 2011 23:07 Absolutionn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 23:01 Smokey459 wrote:
Just to throw my 2 cents in. I believe the reason it was rush rush was to appease the religious aspect of it. Sort of like damage control. According to Muslim law the body must be put to rest within 24 hours. So they rushed big whoop, probably will be repercussions but not as bad as if we put the body on display in the center of town or something. Which i would loved to see. I think it's best the way it happened, Bin Laden can't be made to be some godamned martyr hero who spent all this time fooling the US, he is just a really bad guy we killed in a mansion.
Yeah except, incoming 10000000 youtube conspiracy theories about how Bin Laden isn't dead and this is all a cover up.
Sigh 
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On May 02 2011 23:07 HereBeDragons wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 22:56 meegrean wrote:On May 02 2011 22:53 TanGeng wrote:On May 02 2011 22:48 feanor1 wrote:On May 02 2011 22:47 zatic wrote:On May 02 2011 22:39 Serelitz wrote:On May 02 2011 22:39 busbarn wrote:
Anyone else suspicious to why they dumped him in the ocean? Tortured body into oblivion hidden for us? You can never know for sure but I think it's also to make sure he doesn't become a martyr. What I am wondering though - why the hurry? Between the reports that he was shot (about 16 hours ago) and that they dumped his body in the ocean (about 6 hours ago) they didn't have a whole lot of time. From the location of the raid it's probably about 300 km to the nearest US base in Afghanistan. From there it's over 2500km to the coast. They were REALLY in a hurry to get rid of that body it seems. Islamic tradition requires burial within 24 hours They didn't have to bring the body onto a ship. If they kept it in Afghanistan, Osama could have a grave site. A sea burial seems to be way to remove a grave site as well as dispose of the body. The other thing is that DNA verification happened fast. Whatever kind of DNA lab it was, it was quick. It was probably just preliminary. Even so, I wouldn't be surprised if the US military has the technology to perform quick DNA testing. I would be surprised if the military world has higher advancement than anyone directly involved in the forensics field is already using. I highly doubt such technology you speak of really exists. Reality is not a replay, you can't just speed up things magically. I'm no expert, but it shouldn't it involves some kind of comparison between the samples' nucleotides, and then look for a similar pattern? Problem is, how did they handily obtained a sample or a record of Bin Laden's DNA beforehand? Newspaper/any media won't tell you every little detail, but it sounds quite fishy to me.
I believe DNA testing can also use a family member's DNA sample.
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On May 02 2011 23:07 Absolutionn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 23:01 Smokey459 wrote:
Just to throw my 2 cents in. I believe the reason it was rush rush was to appease the religious aspect of it. Sort of like damage control. According to Muslim law the body must be put to rest within 24 hours. So they rushed big whoop, probably will be repercussions but not as bad as if we put the body on display in the center of town or something. Which i would loved to see. I think it's best the way it happened, Bin Laden can't be made to be some godamned martyr hero who spent all this time fooling the US, he is just a really bad guy we killed in a mansion.
Yep. I am sure that Chavez is crying and lamenting the death of Osama.
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On May 02 2011 23:04 dubRa wrote:
Do we have any evidence or just the word of the government?
Its been said before, but for me the best evidence right know is that Taliban/al-qaida hasn't denied that their leader is dead. I'm 99% sure that they would have released something if Osama still would be alive and unharmed. Al-Qaida/Taliban supporting sites on the internet have been deleting all the info/thread/messages regarding Osamas death too.
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On May 02 2011 22:50 New Zealander wrote:
Interesting timeline:
1957: Osama bin Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden is born in March, the only son to wealthy businessman Muhammed bin Laden's tenth wife.
1967: His father is killed an airplane crash in Saudi Arabia when his American pilot apparently misjudged a landing.
oh i see, interesting timeline indeed
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On May 02 2011 23:09 e4e5nf3 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 23:07 HereBeDragons wrote:On May 02 2011 22:56 meegrean wrote:On May 02 2011 22:53 TanGeng wrote:On May 02 2011 22:48 feanor1 wrote:On May 02 2011 22:47 zatic wrote:On May 02 2011 22:39 Serelitz wrote:On May 02 2011 22:39 busbarn wrote:
Anyone else suspicious to why they dumped him in the ocean? Tortured body into oblivion hidden for us? You can never know for sure but I think it's also to make sure he doesn't become a martyr. What I am wondering though - why the hurry? Between the reports that he was shot (about 16 hours ago) and that they dumped his body in the ocean (about 6 hours ago) they didn't have a whole lot of time. From the location of the raid it's probably about 300 km to the nearest US base in Afghanistan. From there it's over 2500km to the coast. They were REALLY in a hurry to get rid of that body it seems. Islamic tradition requires burial within 24 hours They didn't have to bring the body onto a ship. If they kept it in Afghanistan, Osama could have a grave site. A sea burial seems to be way to remove a grave site as well as dispose of the body. The other thing is that DNA verification happened fast. Whatever kind of DNA lab it was, it was quick. It was probably just preliminary. Even so, I wouldn't be surprised if the US military has the technology to perform quick DNA testing. I would be surprised if the military world has higher advancement than anyone directly involved in the forensics field is already using. I highly doubt such technology you speak of really exists. Reality is not a replay, you can't just speed up things magically. I'm no expert, but it shouldn't it involves some kind of comparison between the samples' nucleotides, and then look for a similar pattern? Problem is, how did they handily obtained a sample or a record of Bin Laden's DNA beforehand? Newspaper/any media won't tell you every little detail, but it sounds quite fishy to me. I believe DNA testing can also use a family member's DNA sample.
Yes, that's true. Osamas Sister died in Boston not to long ago. It isn't as accurate as with the same DNA, but it's highly accurate.
edit: to the Moderator: It says Obama instead of Osama in the warning above the thread!
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On May 02 2011 23:09 e4e5nf3 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 23:07 HereBeDragons wrote:On May 02 2011 22:56 meegrean wrote:On May 02 2011 22:53 TanGeng wrote:On May 02 2011 22:48 feanor1 wrote:On May 02 2011 22:47 zatic wrote:On May 02 2011 22:39 Serelitz wrote:On May 02 2011 22:39 busbarn wrote:
Anyone else suspicious to why they dumped him in the ocean? Tortured body into oblivion hidden for us? You can never know for sure but I think it's also to make sure he doesn't become a martyr. What I am wondering though - why the hurry? Between the reports that he was shot (about 16 hours ago) and that they dumped his body in the ocean (about 6 hours ago) they didn't have a whole lot of time. From the location of the raid it's probably about 300 km to the nearest US base in Afghanistan. From there it's over 2500km to the coast. They were REALLY in a hurry to get rid of that body it seems. Islamic tradition requires burial within 24 hours They didn't have to bring the body onto a ship. If they kept it in Afghanistan, Osama could have a grave site. A sea burial seems to be way to remove a grave site as well as dispose of the body. The other thing is that DNA verification happened fast. Whatever kind of DNA lab it was, it was quick. It was probably just preliminary. Even so, I wouldn't be surprised if the US military has the technology to perform quick DNA testing. I would be surprised if the military world has higher advancement than anyone directly involved in the forensics field is already using. I highly doubt such technology you speak of really exists. Reality is not a replay, you can't just speed up things magically. I'm no expert, but it shouldn't it involves some kind of comparison between the samples' nucleotides, and then look for a similar pattern? Problem is, how did they handily obtained a sample or a record of Bin Laden's DNA beforehand? Newspaper/any media won't tell you every little detail, but it sounds quite fishy to me. I believe DNA testing can also use a family member's DNA sample.
Yes, but there will be some variations in the code due to the independent assortment of chromosomes and crossing over during Meiosis. It would be pretty close though.
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On May 02 2011 23:08 feanor1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 23:07 HereBeDragons wrote:On May 02 2011 22:56 meegrean wrote:On May 02 2011 22:53 TanGeng wrote:On May 02 2011 22:48 feanor1 wrote:On May 02 2011 22:47 zatic wrote:On May 02 2011 22:39 Serelitz wrote:On May 02 2011 22:39 busbarn wrote:
Anyone else suspicious to why they dumped him in the ocean? Tortured body into oblivion hidden for us? You can never know for sure but I think it's also to make sure he doesn't become a martyr. What I am wondering though - why the hurry? Between the reports that he was shot (about 16 hours ago) and that they dumped his body in the ocean (about 6 hours ago) they didn't have a whole lot of time. From the location of the raid it's probably about 300 km to the nearest US base in Afghanistan. From there it's over 2500km to the coast. They were REALLY in a hurry to get rid of that body it seems. Islamic tradition requires burial within 24 hours They didn't have to bring the body onto a ship. If they kept it in Afghanistan, Osama could have a grave site. A sea burial seems to be way to remove a grave site as well as dispose of the body. The other thing is that DNA verification happened fast. Whatever kind of DNA lab it was, it was quick. It was probably just preliminary. Even so, I wouldn't be surprised if the US military has the technology to perform quick DNA testing. I would be surprised if the military world has higher advancement than anyone directly involved in the forensics field is already using. I highly doubt such technology you speak of really exists. Reality is not a replay, you can't just speed up things magically. I'm no expert, but it shouldn't it involves some kind of comparison between the samples' nucleotides, and then look for a similar pattern? Problem is, how did they handily obtained a sample or a record of Bin Laden's DNA beforehand? Newspaper/any media won't tell you every little detail, but it sounds quite fishy to me. His sister Died in Boston recently, they have a sample from her to compare to. Why do so many people feel that the US would fuck something up this huge. If Obama announced it he is 110% sure it is confirmed as Osama. The political ramifications of him being wrong would be HUGE
Very well, they do have a sample. But still, could such a delicate test be done so fast? How sure are they about not getting false positives under such short analysis?
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On May 02 2011 23:13 frodoguy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 22:50 New Zealander wrote:
Interesting timeline:
1957: Osama bin Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden is born in March, the only son to wealthy businessman Muhammed bin Laden's tenth wife.
1967: His father is killed an airplane crash in Saudi Arabia when his American pilot apparently misjudged a landing.
oh i see, interesting timeline indeed
Now I see where his hate came from. Just like something like this also funded Hitler's hate for Jews.
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I think my favorite part of this is weeding out the retarded conspiracy theorist from my Facebook. :D
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On May 02 2011 23:14 HereBeDragons wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 23:08 feanor1 wrote:On May 02 2011 23:07 HereBeDragons wrote:On May 02 2011 22:56 meegrean wrote:On May 02 2011 22:53 TanGeng wrote:On May 02 2011 22:48 feanor1 wrote:On May 02 2011 22:47 zatic wrote:On May 02 2011 22:39 Serelitz wrote:On May 02 2011 22:39 busbarn wrote:
Anyone else suspicious to why they dumped him in the ocean? Tortured body into oblivion hidden for us? You can never know for sure but I think it's also to make sure he doesn't become a martyr. What I am wondering though - why the hurry? Between the reports that he was shot (about 16 hours ago) and that they dumped his body in the ocean (about 6 hours ago) they didn't have a whole lot of time. From the location of the raid it's probably about 300 km to the nearest US base in Afghanistan. From there it's over 2500km to the coast. They were REALLY in a hurry to get rid of that body it seems. Islamic tradition requires burial within 24 hours They didn't have to bring the body onto a ship. If they kept it in Afghanistan, Osama could have a grave site. A sea burial seems to be way to remove a grave site as well as dispose of the body. The other thing is that DNA verification happened fast. Whatever kind of DNA lab it was, it was quick. It was probably just preliminary. Even so, I wouldn't be surprised if the US military has the technology to perform quick DNA testing. I would be surprised if the military world has higher advancement than anyone directly involved in the forensics field is already using. I highly doubt such technology you speak of really exists. Reality is not a replay, you can't just speed up things magically. I'm no expert, but it shouldn't it involves some kind of comparison between the samples' nucleotides, and then look for a similar pattern? Problem is, how did they handily obtained a sample or a record of Bin Laden's DNA beforehand? Newspaper/any media won't tell you every little detail, but it sounds quite fishy to me. His sister Died in Boston recently, they have a sample from her to compare to. Why do so many people feel that the US would fuck something up this huge. If Obama announced it he is 110% sure it is confirmed as Osama. The political ramifications of him being wrong would be HUGE Very well, they do have a sample. But still, could such a delicate test be done so fast? How sure are they about not getting false positives under such short analysis?
Are there any sources that the DNA testing is finished? I thought they are not.
To prevent false positives or contamination the samples will be tested several times. This can be done simultanously with enough resources
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Keep it civil guys.
Alright I am sick of warning people: Trolling, flame baiting, and derailing will result in instabans.
Jesse Jackson conspiracy theorists will be met with permanent bans. ONLY warning. This means 9/11 inside job, obama dead since 2001, etc.
I'm pretty sure Obama is alive, since he made public that Osama is dead.
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On May 02 2011 23:04 plated.rawr wrote:
There's no doubt - he had it coming. I will not be mourning his death, but I won't be celebrating it either. In general, celebration of forced death is abominable, and for this case specifically, the irony is overwhelming in addition to the general disrespect of humanity. I'm sure it's already been pointed out hundreds of times in this thread already, so I won't bother going further in on why it is ironic.
While this is a great symbolic victory for the american army, which undoubtably will fuel the fervor of both civilians and combatants on all sides, this doesn't really change anything. Afghanistan is still forced to endure oppression and forced commercialization. It's civilians are still oppressed by both occupants and paramilitary organizations. Al Quaeda can still use Bin Laden's name in it's cause, but as a "martyr" instead of as a "powerful leader". Mid-East politics are still explosive.
In fact, I think this can have more real negative effects than real positive effects. The symbolic victory for american forces which will cause a tremendous moral boost to armed forces as well as civilians supporting the "war on terror" will have equal if not stronger effects on the other side of the conflict, and can be used to incite even more agression towards the occupants and their allies. This can also be the last straw on the camel's back, with the camel here being Pakistan - if the US in any way try to enforce sanctions or any such against Pakistan as a form of "punishment" of Bin Laden being within their borders, this conflict will escalate even further.
I'm sure the US arms industry is enjoying themselves, though.
No, please go on. Why do you consider Americans celebrating the death of Osama Bin Laden ironic?
Of course it doesnt change the fact that there are terrorist cells operating independently, but by killing Bin Laden, America has sent a message to all terrorist leaders that we will hunt them down even if it takes a decade. Osama evading capture and death was a huge boost in Al Qaeda's reputation. First, it showed either our incompetence or his strength (or both). Osama could orchestrate the murder of American civilians and get away with it. His tactics could send us into a frenzy and he didnt have to pay for any of his crimes. Furthermore, he continued to make videos and speak to his followers whether he was living in a cave or in a mansion. His death isnt only a symbolic victory for us.
Him becoming a "martyr" isnt nearly as powerful as him staying alive. We have the most powerful military in the world by far. If Osama could evade us, what does that say about him? The world was already polarized about him by the time he was killed. The only people who will be recruited following his death are the ones who already believed in his message anyway. And about retaliatory attacks, its not like the terrorists didnt hate us already. Its just now they might try several sloppy attacks against our embassies. Of course I am not trying to downplay that, I dont like the idea of our embassies being hit, but what Im trying to say is there won't be some huge influx of in depth terrorist planning. You can bet that theyve been scheming long before Osamas death.
And I doubt the US will do much against Pakistan without hard evidence of them actively working against us.
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On May 02 2011 23:14 HereBeDragons wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 23:08 feanor1 wrote:On May 02 2011 23:07 HereBeDragons wrote:On May 02 2011 22:56 meegrean wrote:On May 02 2011 22:53 TanGeng wrote:On May 02 2011 22:48 feanor1 wrote:On May 02 2011 22:47 zatic wrote:On May 02 2011 22:39 Serelitz wrote:On May 02 2011 22:39 busbarn wrote:
Anyone else suspicious to why they dumped him in the ocean? Tortured body into oblivion hidden for us? You can never know for sure but I think it's also to make sure he doesn't become a martyr. What I am wondering though - why the hurry? Between the reports that he was shot (about 16 hours ago) and that they dumped his body in the ocean (about 6 hours ago) they didn't have a whole lot of time. From the location of the raid it's probably about 300 km to the nearest US base in Afghanistan. From there it's over 2500km to the coast. They were REALLY in a hurry to get rid of that body it seems. Islamic tradition requires burial within 24 hours They didn't have to bring the body onto a ship. If they kept it in Afghanistan, Osama could have a grave site. A sea burial seems to be way to remove a grave site as well as dispose of the body. The other thing is that DNA verification happened fast. Whatever kind of DNA lab it was, it was quick. It was probably just preliminary. Even so, I wouldn't be surprised if the US military has the technology to perform quick DNA testing. I would be surprised if the military world has higher advancement than anyone directly involved in the forensics field is already using. I highly doubt such technology you speak of really exists. Reality is not a replay, you can't just speed up things magically. I'm no expert, but it shouldn't it involves some kind of comparison between the samples' nucleotides, and then look for a similar pattern? Problem is, how did they handily obtained a sample or a record of Bin Laden's DNA beforehand? Newspaper/any media won't tell you every little detail, but it sounds quite fishy to me. His sister Died in Boston recently, they have a sample from her to compare to. Why do so many people feel that the US would fuck something up this huge. If Obama announced it he is 110% sure it is confirmed as Osama. The political ramifications of him being wrong would be HUGE Very well, they do have a sample. But still, could such a delicate test be done so fast? How sure are they about not getting false positives under such short analysis?
I think that if this week AlQaida comes out with bin laden and he says something that proves his still alive, it will do more harm to the US government than anything else they can do. So if he is still alive, they will def. try to prove it if they can. Otherwise, he ded.
PS. He ded.
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