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Keep it civil guys. Alright I am sick of warning people: Trolling, flame baiting, and derailing will result in insta bans. The same goes for conspiracy theorists and stupidity generally. Confirmation was as follows - On-site DNA test which came back as 99% positive. - photos of face sent to CIA and confirmed with photo analysis - confirmed by 20 year old wife who live in pakistan. This thread is specifically dedicated to the details surrounding the raid/his death. | ||
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Keone
United States812 Posts
On May 02 2011 23:22 Archerofaiur wrote: If Obama wasnt dead why would he spend billions of dollars fighting to keep his death certificate from being released? I would like to see the long-form death certificate before we make any claims that Obama is a zombie. | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
On May 02 2011 23:26 Keone wrote: I would like to see the long-form death certificate before we make any claims that Obama is a zombie. Trumps on the case. | ||
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Nuttyguy
United Kingdom1526 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France7999 Posts
On May 02 2011 23:22 Supamang wrote: lol....are you serious? Its not to test if the guy is dead. The hole in his left eye is evidence enough for that. Its to test if the dead guy is actually Osama Bin Laden. Since there have been numerous imposters and false sightings of Osama in the past decade, we need DNA testing to make sure we got the right guy If "we" didn't get the right guy, you would have all the djihad websites saying how America lies and proving Bin Laden is alive. When Italians killed Mussolini, they didn't wait to have DNA test to tell the world he was dead. American administration is not bad enough to give such an important news without being sure about it. I mean, I really fucking hope for everybody. | ||
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HereBeDragons
1429 Posts
On May 02 2011 23:18 Supamang wrote: America has sent a message to all terrorist leaders that we will hunt them down even if it takes a decade. But it was really expensive.....you need a lot of money that can't really be spent for anything better before you can go hunting in the mountains though...  | ||
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carloselcoco
United States2302 Posts
On May 02 2011 23:24 Sleight wrote: Hey y'all, Quick words on DNA analysis: It takes about 4-6 hours if you have someone else's DNA to compare it to. Having actually done the procedure they use for testing, it's point and click. DNA *sequencing* will take upwards of a day. But when you are testing for a DNA match,all you do is cut up DNA dozens of times with enzymes and match band length. If we have Osama's old DNA, every matched band decreases the likelihood of a non-Osama match by some factor I don't remember. More or less, you match a couple dozen bands at various loci, and, statistically, you can reject the hypothesis that they aren't the same person. That said, it's statistically possible to get 2 unrelated individuals with DNA matching a 2 dozen sites in their genome, but the odds of it being THOSE two dozen sites you test are pretty large. Cheers. Yeah, it doesnt take long. In fact, in AP Bio, one of the labs is DNA Electroporesis which is used to test the relatedness of individuals using DNA and electricity. I have done it in the past and it is pretty quick. | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On May 02 2011 23:25 Essentia wrote: edit : weird that they buried his body so quickly. And why is that? They said that he was buried in the islam way. So it has to be done in 24 hours. Oh yeah, i think this was kinda hilarious.. ^_^ + Show Spoiler + http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/326248972 | ||
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Petruccio
90 Posts
We can know the truth with enough time passed. Example: 1961, Cuban people upraising against dictator! now - CIA organized invasion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion 2011, Libyan people upraising against dictator! Now - have to wait for 50 years for the truth, sorry. Or use your brain now, search for the truth. Even 2,5 months are enough to understand that it is at least a civil war and the initial information was a lie. I do not get why people are happy about the Bin Laden death. CIA says there will be an act of terror in revenge. Is it difficult to think in advance? A week before Wikileaks says that al Qaeda will use a nuclear bomb in case of Bin Laden death. It looks like somebody decided to pull that string. Why he was not captured and interrogated? I am sure he possessed a lot of useful information. Why the body immediately dismissed? | ||
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carloselcoco
United States2302 Posts
On May 02 2011 23:27 Nuttyguy wrote: if it wasn't osama then he'll just post one of those videos to troll USA. It has been half a day since the announcement. AlQuaeda has not said anything yet. No videos have been posted. Osama is ded for sure. | ||
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whatdoido
United States80 Posts
who is jesse jackson and what does he have to do with 9/11 and bin laden? or maybe someone can send me a PM to clarify what a jesse jackson conspiracy theorist is, never heard this term. meanwhile... http://www.thestatesman.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=367406&catid=37 A senior Al Qaida commander has said that the terror group has stashed away a nuclear bomb in Europe which will be detonated if bin Laden is ever caught or assassinated, according to new top secret files made public by the Internet whistleblower WikiLeaks. enjoy your nuclear bomb, europe. | ||
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Deekin[
Serbia1713 Posts
Now they can conquer the earth in peace! | ||
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Sleight
2471 Posts
On May 02 2011 23:28 carloselcoco wrote: Yeah, it doesnt take long. In fact, in AP Bio, one of the labs is DNA Electroporesis which is used to test the relatedness of individuals using DNA and electricity. I have done it in the past and it is pretty quick. You guys did home many cuts? 1? 2? True DNA tests do dozens. Increases the time to run all the gels. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7999 Posts
On May 02 2011 23:18 Supamang wrote: America has sent a message to all terrorist leaders that we will hunt them down even if it takes a decade. Yeah, I noticed too that more you use the force and kill people and least likely it is that people will be willing to blow themselves in our capital cities underground. Seriously, it's a dumb as saying that Bin Laden sent a message to America with 11/9. Israeli know very well that you don't shut down terrorism with missiles and helicopters. I mean clever Israelis, not Netanyahu. | ||
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SpiffD
Denmark1264 Posts
On May 02 2011 23:31 whatdoido wrote: "Jesse Jackson conspiracy theorists will be met with permanent bans. ONLY warning. This means 9/11 inside job, bin laden dead since 2001, etc." who is jesse jackson and what does he have to do with 9/11 and bin laden? or maybe someone can send me a PM to clarify what a jesse jackson conspiracy theorist is, never heard this term. meanwhile... http://www.thestatesman.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=367406&catid=37 enjoy your nuclear bomb, europe. thank you murka <3 | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On May 02 2011 23:31 whatdoido wrote: "Jesse Jackson conspiracy theorists will be met with permanent bans. ONLY warning. This means 9/11 inside job, bin laden dead since 2001, etc." who is jesse jackson and what does he have to do with 9/11 and bin laden? or maybe someone can send me a PM to clarify what a jesse jackson conspiracy theorist is, never heard this term. meanwhile... http://www.thestatesman.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=367406&catid=37 enjoy your nuclear bomb, europe. Uhm, thanks? | ||
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carloselcoco
United States2302 Posts
On May 02 2011 23:31 whatdoido wrote: "Jesse Jackson conspiracy theorists will be met with permanent bans. ONLY warning. This means 9/11 inside job, bin laden dead since 2001, etc." who is jesse jackson and what does he have to do with 9/11 and bin laden? or maybe someone can send me a PM to clarify what a jesse jackson conspiracy theorist is, never heard this term. meanwhile... http://www.thestatesman.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=367406&catid=37 enjoy your nuclear bomb, europe. I bet that bomb i just like the one in Dont mess with the Zohan. | ||
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carloselcoco
United States2302 Posts
On May 02 2011 23:32 Sleight wrote: You guys did home many cuts? 1? 2? True DNA tests do dozens. Increases the time to run all the gels. All cuts have to be put on the same plate on the same gel. The reaction for all of them happens at the same time. Doesnt take long... | ||
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Toxi78
966 Posts
On May 02 2011 23:31 whatdoido wrote: "Jesse Jackson conspiracy theorists will be met with permanent bans. ONLY warning. This means 9/11 inside job, bin laden dead since 2001, etc." who is jesse jackson and what does he have to do with 9/11 and bin laden? or maybe someone can send me a PM to clarify what a jesse jackson conspiracy theorist is, never heard this term. meanwhile... http://www.thestatesman.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=367406&catid=37 enjoy your nuclear bomb, europe. so that's a double hit ? just kidding, im french ^^. on topic, why are the people going in the street for that ? it can only create an anticlimatic hate towards america from the muslim countries. | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
1) Islamic law requires fast burials. (24 hours i believe someone can confirm) 2) If they kept his body on the ship to take somewhere else, as soon as that info hits the news every foreigner in pakistan/islamic world becomes immediate target for hostage taking to get the body back 3) If they bury him on soil, that site makes him more of a martyr and allows ppl/supporters to rally around it/visit etc. Fast sea burial defuses it. The white house/state department is debating which photos/videos to release without being too graphic (cranial exit wounds leave a bit of a mess). | ||
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Thrill
2599 Posts
I hope this is true though. | ||
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