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On March 29 2011 14:01 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
well "who are the greatest warriors" is a pretty open-ended question
one samurai vs one legionnaire is one thing
but 1000 samurai vs 1000 legionnaires is an entirely different battle
like, a spartan would probably get crushed by a ninja because the strength of ancient spartan (and greek) armies were in their phalanxes
I wouldn't bet on it. Their military strength in battle may have been in a phalanx but that certainly doesn't mean that a Spartan hoplite couldn't hold his own in a one vs. one scenario.
Pankration was a "sport" for the ancient Greeks, and it was intense to the point where it would make MMA look like a sissies activity. They may have run around in togas and the like but they could most certainly hold their own.
Hell, even Socrates, known for his mental strength, could probably lay the smack down on most people - having served as a hoplite at Marathon.
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pardon me, doctor freeman
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On March 29 2011 14:25 Syncker wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 29 2011 14:20 absalom86 wrote:Simo HäyhäA.k.a. The White Death ( named by the Soviets ) ![[image loading]](http://files.sharenator.com/Simo_Hayha-s585x360-11707.jpg) " It was during the Winter War (1939–1940), between Finland and the Soviet Union, that he began his duty as a sniper and fought for the Finnish Army against the Red Army. In temperatures between −40 and −20 degrees Celsius, dressed completely in white camouflage, Häyhä was credited with 505 confirmed plus 37 unconfirmed kills of Soviet soldiers.[3][5] The unofficial Finnish front line figure from the battlefield of Kollaa places the number of Häyhä's sniper kills at over 800.[6] A daily account of the kills at Kollaa was conducted for the Finnish snipers. Besides his sniper kills, Häyhä was also credited with over two hundred kills with a Suomi KP/-31 submachine gun, thus bringing his credited kills to at least 705.[5] Remarkably, all of Häyhä's kills were accomplished in fewer than 100 days at a time of year with very short hours of daylight.[7][8][9] " Finnish sniper in world war II, killed about 705-1000 men in WWII. Survived a headshot and had his jaw deformed from it. " The Soviets tried several ploys to get rid of him, including counter-snipers and artillery strikes. On March 6, 1940, Häyhä was shot in the lower left jaw by a Russian soldier during combat. The bullet tumbled upon impact and exited his head. He was picked up by fellow soldiers who said "half his head was missing", but he was not dead " RESPECT
This BAMF didn't even use a scope!
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hmmmm the Chinese Cho ko nu troopers
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On March 29 2011 12:11 H2O Xplicit wrote:
My personal Favorite would be the Samurai...
Why? Cause they were one of the honors who fought for their masters and with honor
For some reason this reminds me of the "i like halo because he an hero and isnt afeared of anything" line
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The Rhodesian Light Infantry, so bad ass that they managed to fight a war for 20 years, being surrounded by enemies on three sides, and under a heavy arms embargo from the western world, losing only 80 men. I'm a bit biased though, my dad is a veteran of their corp.
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They even brought their company cheetah out to visit when Prince Charles came to visit, giving it a place next to him in the dining hall. They didn't have much respect for the British crown (;
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Vikings ftw.. May be slightly biased tho =)
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On March 29 2011 14:11 The_LiNk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 13:58 gongryong wrote:On March 29 2011 13:52 GertHeart wrote:
Spartans were probably the highest skilled warriors of all time, possibly only Samurai or Ninja could compete(On a real basis) and my favorite are all 3.
Reminds me of a quote I saw 10+ years ago.
1 Samurai can defeat 1,000 Ninja
1 Ninja can defeat 1,000 Samurai.
problem with spartans is that they are very scantily protected. leather spandex and cape, seriously? j/k :p Sacred Band of Thebes > Spartans What's more elite than 300? How about half their size. Sacred Band of Thebes is composed of 150 homosexual males (yes, it pertinent to mention they are homosexuals; they are selected because they are homosexuals). Defeated the Spartans every time they encountered. It took a total reformation of military arms and tactics in Greece before anybody to defeat them when Phillip created the sarissa.
I think you are reading it wrong bro. The wikipedia page says 150 couples aka 300 total guys.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_band_of_thebes
For my own answer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_rommel
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On March 29 2011 15:30 Believer wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 14:11 The_LiNk wrote:On March 29 2011 13:58 gongryong wrote:On March 29 2011 13:52 GertHeart wrote:
Spartans were probably the highest skilled warriors of all time, possibly only Samurai or Ninja could compete(On a real basis) and my favorite are all 3.
Reminds me of a quote I saw 10+ years ago.
1 Samurai can defeat 1,000 Ninja
1 Ninja can defeat 1,000 Samurai.
problem with spartans is that they are very scantily protected. leather spandex and cape, seriously? j/k :p Sacred Band of Thebes > Spartans What's more elite than 300? How about half their size. Sacred Band of Thebes is composed of 150 homosexual males (yes, it pertinent to mention they are homosexuals; they are selected because they are homosexuals). Defeated the Spartans every time they encountered. It took a total reformation of military arms and tactics in Greece before anybody to defeat them when Phillip created the sarissa. I think you are reading it wrong bro. The wikipedia page says 150 couples aka 300 total guys. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_band_of_thebesFor my own answer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_rommel
I didn't read it from Wiki, but hey, still beat the crap out of Sparta.
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On March 29 2011 15:32 The_LiNk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 15:30 Believer wrote:On March 29 2011 14:11 The_LiNk wrote:On March 29 2011 13:58 gongryong wrote:On March 29 2011 13:52 GertHeart wrote:
Spartans were probably the highest skilled warriors of all time, possibly only Samurai or Ninja could compete(On a real basis) and my favorite are all 3.
Reminds me of a quote I saw 10+ years ago.
1 Samurai can defeat 1,000 Ninja
1 Ninja can defeat 1,000 Samurai.
problem with spartans is that they are very scantily protected. leather spandex and cape, seriously? j/k :p Sacred Band of Thebes > Spartans What's more elite than 300? How about half their size. Sacred Band of Thebes is composed of 150 homosexual males (yes, it pertinent to mention they are homosexuals; they are selected because they are homosexuals). Defeated the Spartans every time they encountered. It took a total reformation of military arms and tactics in Greece before anybody to defeat them when Phillip created the sarissa. I think you are reading it wrong bro. The wikipedia page says 150 couples aka 300 total guys. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_band_of_thebesFor my own answer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_rommel I didn't read it from Wiki, but hey, still beat the crap out of Sparta.
Spartan military strength went up and down. At the height of their power the soldiers were a lot stronger than after they started losing land to coalitions of nations that stood up against them amongst the Greek citystates.
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On March 29 2011 15:21 kuresuti wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 14:25 Syncker wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 29 2011 14:20 absalom86 wrote:Simo HäyhäA.k.a. The White Death ( named by the Soviets ) " It was during the Winter War (1939–1940), between Finland and the Soviet Union, that he began his duty as a sniper and fought for the Finnish Army against the Red Army. In temperatures between −40 and −20 degrees Celsius, dressed completely in white camouflage, Häyhä was credited with 505 confirmed plus 37 unconfirmed kills of Soviet soldiers.[3][5] The unofficial Finnish front line figure from the battlefield of Kollaa places the number of Häyhä's sniper kills at over 800.[6] A daily account of the kills at Kollaa was conducted for the Finnish snipers. Besides his sniper kills, Häyhä was also credited with over two hundred kills with a Suomi KP/-31 submachine gun, thus bringing his credited kills to at least 705.[5] Remarkably, all of Häyhä's kills were accomplished in fewer than 100 days at a time of year with very short hours of daylight.[7][8][9] " Finnish sniper in world war II, killed about 705-1000 men in WWII. Survived a headshot and had his jaw deformed from it. " The Soviets tried several ploys to get rid of him, including counter-snipers and artillery strikes. On March 6, 1940, Häyhä was shot in the lower left jaw by a Russian soldier during combat. The bullet tumbled upon impact and exited his head. He was picked up by fellow soldiers who said "half his head was missing", but he was not dead " RESPECT This BAMF didn't even use a scope!
Agreed. White death, indeed.
Who else learned about him from the Cracked article? I had never heard of him before that.
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Here you go..
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On March 29 2011 15:47 absalom86 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 15:32 The_LiNk wrote:On March 29 2011 15:30 Believer wrote:On March 29 2011 14:11 The_LiNk wrote:On March 29 2011 13:58 gongryong wrote:On March 29 2011 13:52 GertHeart wrote:
Spartans were probably the highest skilled warriors of all time, possibly only Samurai or Ninja could compete(On a real basis) and my favorite are all 3.
Reminds me of a quote I saw 10+ years ago.
1 Samurai can defeat 1,000 Ninja
1 Ninja can defeat 1,000 Samurai.
problem with spartans is that they are very scantily protected. leather spandex and cape, seriously? j/k :p Sacred Band of Thebes > Spartans What's more elite than 300? How about half their size. Sacred Band of Thebes is composed of 150 homosexual males (yes, it pertinent to mention they are homosexuals; they are selected because they are homosexuals). Defeated the Spartans every time they encountered. It took a total reformation of military arms and tactics in Greece before anybody to defeat them when Phillip created the sarissa. I think you are reading it wrong bro. The wikipedia page says 150 couples aka 300 total guys. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_band_of_thebesFor my own answer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_rommel I didn't read it from Wiki, but hey, still beat the crap out of Sparta. Spartan military strength went up and down. At the height of their power the soldiers were a lot stronger than after they started losing land to coalitions of nations that stood up against them amongst the Greek citystates.
Even at the height of their power, they were still weaker than Athens.
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Genghis' Mongolian Cavalry. They crushed everyone. You can't beat that.
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On March 29 2011 15:32 The_LiNk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 15:30 Believer wrote:On March 29 2011 14:11 The_LiNk wrote:On March 29 2011 13:58 gongryong wrote:On March 29 2011 13:52 GertHeart wrote:
Spartans were probably the highest skilled warriors of all time, possibly only Samurai or Ninja could compete(On a real basis) and my favorite are all 3.
Reminds me of a quote I saw 10+ years ago.
1 Samurai can defeat 1,000 Ninja
1 Ninja can defeat 1,000 Samurai.
problem with spartans is that they are very scantily protected. leather spandex and cape, seriously? j/k :p Sacred Band of Thebes > Spartans What's more elite than 300? How about half their size. Sacred Band of Thebes is composed of 150 homosexual males (yes, it pertinent to mention they are homosexuals; they are selected because they are homosexuals). Defeated the Spartans every time they encountered. It took a total reformation of military arms and tactics in Greece before anybody to defeat them when Phillip created the sarissa. I think you are reading it wrong bro. The wikipedia page says 150 couples aka 300 total guys. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_band_of_thebesFor my own answer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_rommel I didn't read it from Wiki, but hey, still beat the crap out of Sparta.
Sparta beat Sparta. Epimondas was a great general and his "sacred band" were great soldiers but by that point in history Sparta had spent decades fighting against numerous other city states while maintaining a nearly impossible social system which basically bled them dry of males. By the time they fought at Leuctra they were already on the decline.
Props to Thebes and all that but yeah, poor Sparta.
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[spoilerOn March 29 2011 15:54 kaiz0ku wrote:Here you go.. [
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whoever made that clearly didnt know the difference between you're and your.
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Greatest warrior is obviously one of those "my dick" debates.
However, for my own personal taste it would probably be one of three groups in history. The first was the Mongolian troops who we often "label" as the Mangudai, that is to say the units of Mongolian cavalry who were more or less the "bait". The second choice would probably be the Gurkhas and the third being the 442nd Infantry Regiment, USA. All three - if sources are to believed, displayed incredible fortitude.
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