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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
Caelixx
Profile Joined September 2010
United States283 Posts
March 12 2011 06:01 GMT
#1321
On March 12 2011 14:59 fanta[Rn] wrote:
there's a fucking meltdown about to happen, stop arguing over that shit


Nuclear...? Is there any coverage up for it? I thought they were going on about it being a minor thing with the cooling. That's depressing.
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Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
March 12 2011 06:02 GMT
#1322
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_I_Nuclear_Power_Plant#2011_earthquake_events
During the afternoon of March 12, the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency announced that part of a cesium rod appeared to have melted, but the NHK reported that the rest of the fuel had cooled and there was no reason for alarm.[23]

Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
March 12 2011 06:03 GMT
#1323
On March 12 2011 15:01 Caelixx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 14:59 fanta[Rn] wrote:
there's a fucking meltdown about to happen, stop arguing over that shit


Nuclear...? Is there any coverage up for it? I thought they were going on about it being a minor thing with the cooling. That's depressing.


They were. Nobody knows what's really going on right now. Every news outlet is reporting conflicting information. The latest BBC report claims the power company says there is no meltdown, so I'm going with that for the time being since none of these meltdown claims seem to be supported by anything.
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27172 Posts
March 12 2011 06:03 GMT
#1324
Shut the fuck up about China vs Japan. You people are fucking idiots.
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stork4ever
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1036 Posts
March 12 2011 06:04 GMT
#1325
western news still only saying its a risk, though I assume they are getting their info a lot later then people who are actually watching live japanese news
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
March 12 2011 06:05 GMT
#1326
6.01am: As we wait for more confirmation on the nuclear situation unfolding in Japan, here is the latest information from AP.

AP) A nuclear power plant affected by a massive earthquake is facing a possible meltdown, an official with Japan's nuclear safety commission said.

Ryohei Shiomi said that officials were checking whether a meltdown had taken place at the Fukushima Daiichi power plant's Unit 1, which had lost cooling ability in the aftermath of Friday's powerful earthquake.

Shiomi said that even if there was a meltdown, it wouldn't affect humans beyond a six-mile radius. Most of the 51,000 residents living within that radius have been evacuated, he said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/mar/12/japan-tsunami-earthquake-live-coverage
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Crackensan
Profile Joined August 2010
United States479 Posts
March 12 2011 06:06 GMT
#1327
Given the fact that the electrical grid has been damaged severely, and that they have been confirmed on having issues restoring power to the cooling systems across the Fukushima Nuclear Complex, I would not be at all surprised if Fukushima Reactor #1 melted down.

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dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
March 12 2011 06:06 GMT
#1328
On March 12 2011 15:04 stork4ever wrote:
western news still only saying its a risk, though I assume they are getting their info a lot later then people who are actually watching live japanese news


I'm hearing from people in Japan that NHK is really cherry coating a lot of the information. The local regional TV channels are showing a lot more apparently.

Al Jazeera might be more reliable than Japanese media right now.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 06:09:15
March 12 2011 06:07 GMT
#1329
On March 12 2011 15:04 stork4ever wrote:
western news still only saying its a risk, though I assume they are getting their info a lot later then people who are actually watching live japanese news


Nowadays it's pretty instant, actually. I would say the bottleneck here is the actual power company. They're probably so busy trying to keep things functioning properly that they're being sparse with the info they release. Then media outlets are trying to fill the gaps with their own sources, which is where the misinformation starts coming into play. This goes for Japanese outlets, too, although they can probably speculate better than foreign outlets can due to better connections with places like the industrial or health systems.

Either way, places like BBC, CNN, and Aljazeera will all generally get info as soon as Japanese outlets do. They all have reporters there just the same.
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aers *
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1210 Posts
March 12 2011 06:11 GMT
#1330
On March 12 2011 15:06 dump wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 15:04 stork4ever wrote:
western news still only saying its a risk, though I assume they are getting their info a lot later then people who are actually watching live japanese news


I'm hearing from people in Japan that NHK is really cherry coating a lot of the information. The local regional TV channels are showing a lot more apparently.

Al Jazeera might be more reliable than Japanese media right now.


I've been watching TBS, TV Tokyo, Fuji TV, and NTV a lot since the quake and there really isn't much differing information; just a few different videos.
fanta[Rn]
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Japan2465 Posts
March 12 2011 06:13 GMT
#1331
The operation has been suspended because of the possibility that workers could be exposed to radiation. The utility is reportedly studying how to open the valve by replacing workers at a short interval, or using electric remote control.
DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
March 12 2011 06:20 GMT
#1332
Prayers to those who perished from the earthquake and suffering from it.
It's pretty devastating that this kind of earthquake happens in one of the most populated area in the world.
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 06:24:00
March 12 2011 06:23 GMT
#1333
I was under the impression that all first world countries have MANY countermeasures preventing the nuclear fission from going out of countrol like this. Meltdowns occur when the fission material melts through the containment hull and hits groundwater, creating explosive steam thousands of degrees in temperature and sending radiactive material everywhere. There are many ways to prevent the fission material from going a chain reaction and causing a meltdown: submerging the rods that absorb the reaction sustaining neutrons, increasing the amount of coolant and having thick enough containment.

I really can't believe plants are having meltdowns like this. They should consider if a plant is in a tsunami safe zone and either not build there or have tsunami safety measures.
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RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
March 12 2011 06:24 GMT
#1334
On March 12 2011 15:23 DeltruS wrote:
I was under the impression that all first world countries have MANY countermeasures to the nuclear fission from going out of countrol like this. Meltdowns occur when the fission material melts through the containment hull and hits groundwater, creating explosive steam thousands of degrees in temperature and sending radiactive material everywhere. There are many ways to prevent the fission material from going a chain reaction and causing a meltdown: submerging the rods that absorb the reaction sustaining neutrons, increasing the amount of coolant and having thick enough containment.

I really can't believe plants are having meltdowns like this. They should consider if a plant is in a tsunami safe zone and either not build there or have tsunami safety measures.

It's a completely different story when the power plant gets hit by multiple earthquakes, ruining the backup power, and backup cooling systems.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
March 12 2011 06:25 GMT
#1335
0625: The quake death toll rises to more than 700, the AFP news agency reports
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thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
March 12 2011 06:26 GMT
#1336
There are lots of posts regarding the nuclear risk at the moment here: http://live.reuters.com/Event/Japan_earthquake2

Obviously, take them with plenty of salt, but there are lots of posts and debate about the specific issue.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 12 2011 06:26 GMT
#1337
Japan nuclear safety commission official says meltdown at nuclear power plant possible - AP
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Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
March 12 2011 06:26 GMT
#1338
"It is just reported that fuel rod seems to be breaking down within Daiichi No.1 reactor.

Detected substance (Cesium) in the facility is probably coming out of broken fuel rods. (NHK staff, Yamazaki) "
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
March 12 2011 06:28 GMT
#1339
I haven't heard from my family since the earthquake but in a sad way, I'm honestly glad it was closer to Japan than anywhere else. It's tragic, but the current death toll is miraculous and a testament to Japan's excellent city design and engineering.
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fanta[Rn]
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Japan2465 Posts
March 12 2011 06:30 GMT
#1340
I hope your family is well Jibba. Please keep us updated when you hear from them!
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