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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42384 Posts
March 13 2011 18:51 GMT
#1981
On March 14 2011 03:48 ondik wrote:
they said on czech news that according to experts, there's around 70 % probability of another massive earthquake.. did they just randomly make it up or someone else heard this on news also?


Its a possibility (finnish media is also saying so, so is the big news like bbc etc). Haiti and chile had some aftershocks after the first big ones.
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Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-13 18:52:53
March 13 2011 18:52 GMT
#1982
On March 14 2011 03:48 ondik wrote:
they said on czech news that according to experts, there's around 70 % probability of another massive earthquake.. did they just randomly make it up or someone else heard this on news also?


This number have been mentioned quite some time now. So it should be right. At least I haven't heard anything against it. Aftershocks are quite common
Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1894 Posts
March 13 2011 18:55 GMT
#1983
DJ: Radioactivity 400 Times Normal Level Observed In Miyagi: Tohoku Electric - Kyodo
DJ: Radiation Possibly Spread From Fukushima Daiichi Plant: METI -NHK
DJ: Tepco Source: No Evidence Of Melting, Or Partial Meltdown Of No. 3 Reactor
DJ: Ibaraki Prefecture Says No Unusual Radiation Levels Discovered So Far -Kyodo
DJ: Tohoku Electric: Think Radiation Detected Was Not From Onagawa Plant
DJ: Japan Govt Kaieda: Ask Companies, Citizens To Limit Use Of Electricity
DJ: Japan Kaieda: To Make Utmost Efforts To Maintain Supply Of Electricity
DJ: Japan Edano: Even In Event Of Explosion, Expect No.3 Reactor To Be OK
DJ: Tohoku Electric: Elevated Radiation level At Onagawa Plant
DJ: Japan Edano: This Situation Is Not Generally Referred To As "Meltdown"
DJ: Japan METI: Tokyo Electric's Supply Falls Short Of Demand By 25%
DJ: Tepco: Fukushima Daiichi No. 1 Reactor Spent Fuel Container May Have Lost Cooling Function
DJ: Japan Nuclear Agency: Pumping Sea Water Into No. 3 Reactor, But Level Not Yet Satisfactory
DJ: Japan Nuclear Agency: Radiation Levels At Onagawa Plant Equivalent To One-Tenth Of One X-Ray
DJ: Japan Meteorological Agency: Tsunami Warning Dropped For Whole Of Japan
DJ: Damage To Fuel Rods At Fukushima Nuclear Plant Not Avoided: METI -Kyodo
DJ: Confirmed Death Toll From Quake Tops 1,000: Police -Kyodo
DJ: Japan PM Kan: 12,000 People Saved So Far By Emergency Services
DJ: Local Govt Says 80,000 People To Evacuate From Nuke Plant Areas -Kyodo
DJ: Tepco President: Daiichi No. 1 Reactor Vessel Remains Sound
DJ: Japan Govt Edano: Pressure At No. 3 Reactor Rising, But Radiation Unchanged
DJ: Tepco Vice Pres Says Railway Services In Power Cut Areas To Be Affected -Nikkei
DJ: Japan Police: Quake, Tsunami Death Toll Now At 1,353, Missing At 1,085 As Of 1230 GMT
DJ: Japan Nuclear Agency: Continuing To Pump Seawater Into No. 3 Reactor
DJ: Japan Nuclear Agency: No Major Problems With No. 2 Reactor
DJ: Japan Nuclear Agency: Have Been Able To Release Pressure in No. 3 Reactor
DJ: Japan Nuclear Agency: Fukushima Daiichi Reactor No. 3 Fuel Rods Are Half Exposed
DJ: Japan Nuclear Agency: Fukushima Daiichi Reactor No. 1 Fuel Rods Are Partially Exposed
DJ: Japan Nuclear Agency: No. 3 Monitoring, Pressure Data Conflict With Exposure Data
DJ: Japan Nuclear Agency: Concerned That No. 3 Fuel Rods Damaged
DJ: Tepco: Considering Seawater As One Option To Cool Daiichi No. 2 Reactor
DJ: Japan Police: Quake, Tsunami Death Toll Now At 1,597, Missing At 1,481 As Of 1500 GMT
DJ: Japan Nuclear Agency: Fukushima Daiichi No. 3 Reactor Fuel Rods Exposed
DJ: Japan Atomic Power Company: 1 Cooling System Pump At Tokai No.2 Nuclear Reactor Not Working
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naim
Profile Joined February 2011
41 Posts
March 13 2011 18:59 GMT
#1984
its quite normal that there are several less intense aftershocks after an earthquake.
I don't know if it was caused by a tectonic slide or volcanic activity, but I'm sure they cohere.

I'm trying to imagine a world in which mankind sticks together and puts aside politics, religion and profit to help each other. Kind of hard to keep this picture focused nowadays...
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
March 13 2011 19:02 GMT
#1985
On March 14 2011 03:59 naim wrote:
its quite normal that there are several less intense aftershocks after an earthquake.
I don't know if it was caused by a tectonic slide or volcanic activity, but I'm sure they cohere.

I'm trying to imagine a world in which mankind sticks together and puts aside politics, religion and profit to help each other. Kind of hard to keep this picture focused nowadays...

Isn't that kind of what the Japanese have done when homeless people are helping middle class stay warm, and people are standing in line patiently to buy food instead of looting. Stores are lowering prices instead of jacking them up (like we saw during Katrina in the states), and people still stop at stop signs even when there is a tsunami rolling through town. It's heartwarming.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
March 13 2011 19:08 GMT
#1986
On March 14 2011 01:53 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 01:49 FLu wrote:
Doesn't Uran split into Cesium and if, doesn't cesium have a long half-life? What if this gets out?


Uranium leaking would indeed be bad, but that's a worst case scenario that so far doesn't seem too likely, the containement structure is supposed to be intact.


why do they always build dangerous nuclear facilities at earthquake sites, there is one like right next to the san andreas fault too : /
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
March 13 2011 19:08 GMT
#1987
hope this link isn't a repost, http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/japan-quake-2011/beforeafter.htm
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Deja Thoris
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa646 Posts
March 13 2011 19:14 GMT
#1988
On March 14 2011 04:08 SupastaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 01:53 SKC wrote:
On March 14 2011 01:49 FLu wrote:
Doesn't Uran split into Cesium and if, doesn't cesium have a long half-life? What if this gets out?


Uranium leaking would indeed be bad, but that's a worst case scenario that so far doesn't seem too likely, the containement structure is supposed to be intact.


why do they always build dangerous nuclear facilities at earthquake sites, there is one like right next to the san andreas fault too : /


The whole of Japan is on or close to the "ring of fire", basically a bunch of tectonic plates moving around. This means Japan as a while is suscptable to earthquakes. What do you expect Japan to do? Build them in Australia? They have to build them close to the place where the power is needed. Also, Japan has no coal or natural gas, the usual drivers for power plants. Your question comes across as really naive and uninformed.
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
March 13 2011 19:21 GMT
#1989
On March 14 2011 04:08 SupastaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 01:53 SKC wrote:
On March 14 2011 01:49 FLu wrote:
Doesn't Uran split into Cesium and if, doesn't cesium have a long half-life? What if this gets out?


Uranium leaking would indeed be bad, but that's a worst case scenario that so far doesn't seem too likely, the containement structure is supposed to be intact.


why do they always build dangerous nuclear facilities at earthquake sites, there is one like right next to the san andreas fault too : /


The entire nation of Japan is an earthquake site lol.
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McDonalds
Profile Joined March 2010
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
March 13 2011 19:26 GMT
#1990
The magnitude wasn't "upgraded", it was given a different number by a different organization. The US Geological Survey number, which you had been using in the title of the thread and which was bigger than any of the other estimates at the time, hasn't changed from 8.9 yet.
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Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
March 13 2011 19:34 GMT
#1991
A Justin.TV user called RealTokyoLife has I guess, local news footage about the earthquake, showing some videos now.

http://www.justin.tv/tokyo_yuta#/w/962281040/2
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absalom86
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland1770 Posts
March 13 2011 19:39 GMT
#1992
My thoughts are with Japan, I wish I could go there and help out.
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TimeOut
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1277 Posts
March 13 2011 19:48 GMT
#1993
On March 14 2011 04:08 udgnim wrote:
hope this link isn't a repost, http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/japan-quake-2011/beforeafter.htm


Similar site: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/03/13/world/asia/satellite-photos-japan-before-and-after-tsunami.html
Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
March 13 2011 19:49 GMT
#1994
On March 14 2011 04:08 SupastaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 01:53 SKC wrote:
On March 14 2011 01:49 FLu wrote:
Doesn't Uran split into Cesium and if, doesn't cesium have a long half-life? What if this gets out?


Uranium leaking would indeed be bad, but that's a worst case scenario that so far doesn't seem too likely, the containement structure is supposed to be intact.


why do they always build dangerous nuclear facilities at earthquake sites, there is one like right next to the san andreas fault too : /
Based on what I've read the current problems are a result of the tsunami, not the earthquake. They're built very well to withstand quakes.
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forgotten0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States951 Posts
March 13 2011 19:53 GMT
#1995
On March 14 2011 03:55 Rus_Brain wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
DJ: Radioactivity 400 Times Normal Level Observed In Miyagi: Tohoku Electric - Kyodo
DJ: Radiation Possibly Spread From Fukushima Daiichi Plant: METI -NHK
DJ: Tepco Source: No Evidence Of Melting, Or Partial Meltdown Of No. 3 Reactor
DJ: Ibaraki Prefecture Says No Unusual Radiation Levels Discovered So Far -Kyodo
DJ: Tohoku Electric: Think Radiation Detected Was Not From Onagawa Plant
DJ: Japan Govt Kaieda: Ask Companies, Citizens To Limit Use Of Electricity
DJ: Japan Kaieda: To Make Utmost Efforts To Maintain Supply Of Electricity
DJ: Japan Edano: Even In Event Of Explosion, Expect No.3 Reactor To Be OK
DJ: Tohoku Electric: Elevated Radiation level At Onagawa Plant
DJ: Japan Edano: This Situation Is Not Generally Referred To As "Meltdown"
DJ: Japan METI: Tokyo Electric's Supply Falls Short Of Demand By 25%
DJ: Tepco: Fukushima Daiichi No. 1 Reactor Spent Fuel Container May Have Lost Cooling Function
DJ: Japan Nuclear Agency: Pumping Sea Water Into No. 3 Reactor, But Level Not Yet Satisfactory
DJ: Japan Nuclear Agency: Radiation Levels At Onagawa Plant Equivalent To One-Tenth Of One X-Ray
DJ: Japan Meteorological Agency: Tsunami Warning Dropped For Whole Of Japan
DJ: Damage To Fuel Rods At Fukushima Nuclear Plant Not Avoided: METI -Kyodo
DJ: Confirmed Death Toll From Quake Tops 1,000: Police -Kyodo
DJ: Japan PM Kan: 12,000 People Saved So Far By Emergency Services
DJ: Local Govt Says 80,000 People To Evacuate From Nuke Plant Areas -Kyodo
DJ: Tepco President: Daiichi No. 1 Reactor Vessel Remains Sound
DJ: Japan Govt Edano: Pressure At No. 3 Reactor Rising, But Radiation Unchanged
DJ: Tepco Vice Pres Says Railway Services In Power Cut Areas To Be Affected -Nikkei
DJ: Japan Police: Quake, Tsunami Death Toll Now At 1,353, Missing At 1,085 As Of 1230 GMT
DJ: Japan Nuclear Agency: Continuing To Pump Seawater Into No. 3 Reactor
DJ: Japan Nuclear Agency: No Major Problems With No. 2 Reactor
DJ: Japan Nuclear Agency: Have Been Able To Release Pressure in No. 3 Reactor
DJ: Japan Nuclear Agency: Fukushima Daiichi Reactor No. 3 Fuel Rods Are Half Exposed
DJ: Japan Nuclear Agency: Fukushima Daiichi Reactor No. 1 Fuel Rods Are Partially Exposed
DJ: Japan Nuclear Agency: No. 3 Monitoring, Pressure Data Conflict With Exposure Data
DJ: Japan Nuclear Agency: Concerned That No. 3 Fuel Rods Damaged
DJ: Tepco: Considering Seawater As One Option To Cool Daiichi No. 2 Reactor
DJ: Japan Police: Quake, Tsunami Death Toll Now At 1,597, Missing At 1,481 As Of 1500 GMT
DJ: Japan Nuclear Agency: Fukushima Daiichi No. 3 Reactor Fuel Rods Exposed
DJ: Japan Atomic Power Company: 1 Cooling System Pump At Tokai No.2 Nuclear Reactor Not Working


Upon first sight, I thought this was a tracklist of an after earthquake rave or something...
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Sigh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2433 Posts
March 13 2011 20:06 GMT
#1996
Not sure if this has been posted before but the Shinmoedake volcano has resumed activity.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fgw-japan-quake-volcano-20110314,0,2486939.story?track=rss
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FaZiNaTe
Profile Joined August 2009
Germany290 Posts
March 13 2011 20:11 GMT
#1997
they said on czech news that according to experts, there's around 70 % probability of another massive earthquake.. did they just randomly make it up or someone else heard this on news also?


Yeah thats true, i watched the live report from some conferences in Japan.



The magnitude wasn't "upgraded", it was given a different number by a different organization. The US Geological Survey number, which you had been using in the title of the thread and which was bigger than any of the other estimates at the time, hasn't changed from 8.9 yet.



Japan upgraded earthquake from 8.9 to 9.0
They said it was much more worse then they imagined afterwards.

Btw. any new news about the reactors?
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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
March 13 2011 20:19 GMT
#1998
On March 14 2011 05:11 Tt|FaZiNaTe wrote:
Show nested quote +
they said on czech news that according to experts, there's around 70 % probability of another massive earthquake.. did they just randomly make it up or someone else heard this on news also?


Yeah thats true, i watched the live report from some conferences in Japan.



Show nested quote +
The magnitude wasn't "upgraded", it was given a different number by a different organization. The US Geological Survey number, which you had been using in the title of the thread and which was bigger than any of the other estimates at the time, hasn't changed from 8.9 yet.



Japan upgraded earthquake from 8.9 to 9.0
They said it was much more worse then they imagined afterwards.

Btw. any new news about the reactors?

Mixed news about the reactors. Some media groups claim a meltdown, others claim a meltdown imminent, others claim fearmongering about a meltdown.

There's not much transparency from the government, so no source is definitively correct.
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JanB
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany38 Posts
March 13 2011 20:35 GMT
#1999
On March 14 2011 05:11 Tt|FaZiNaTe wrote:
Show nested quote +
they said on czech news that according to experts, there's around 70 % probability of another massive earthquake.. did they just randomly make it up or someone else heard this on news also?


Yeah thats true, i watched the live report from some conferences in Japan.



Show nested quote +
The magnitude wasn't "upgraded", it was given a different number by a different organization. The US Geological Survey number, which you had been using in the title of the thread and which was bigger than any of the other estimates at the time, hasn't changed from 8.9 yet.



Japan upgraded earthquake from 8.9 to 9.0
They said it was much more worse then they imagined afterwards.

Btw. any new news about the reactors?

Japan corrected from 8.8 to 9.0. US said 8.9 all along
pigtheman
Profile Joined January 2009
United States333 Posts
March 13 2011 20:38 GMT
#2000
its actually a 9.0 compared to the reported 8.8 which is 2 times the intensity of a 8.8 o.O hope their all ok ...
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