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bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
August 04 2011 04:49 GMT
#721
Vo Nguyen Giap A search for this guy revealed no results which is kind of wrong. Half of vietnam holding off france and the us...
Ignore my opinions I am bad
Equity213
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada873 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 04:51:08
August 04 2011 04:49 GMT
#722
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
August 04 2011 04:50 GMT
#723
On August 04 2011 13:29 j3i wrote:
general tso

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I Lol'd
Snitches get stiches
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
August 04 2011 04:50 GMT
#724
On August 04 2011 13:50 FryktSkyene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 13:29 j3i wrote:
general tso

[image loading]



I Lol'd


Whoever that seasme guy is is better though
Ignore my opinions I am bad
MozzarellaL
Profile Joined November 2010
United States822 Posts
August 04 2011 05:09 GMT
#725
On August 04 2011 13:50 bigjenk wrote:
Whoever that seasme guy is is better though

Protip: They're the same thing, except one has sesame seeds sprinkled instead of dried red pepper
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
August 04 2011 05:15 GMT
#726
--- Nuked ---
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 05:19:39
August 04 2011 05:19 GMT
#727
On August 04 2011 14:15 stormtemplar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 13:47 Avi- wrote:
On August 04 2011 12:07 nArAnjO wrote:
On April 29 2011 03:25 jcarlson08 wrote:
On February 15 2011 15:36 HansMoleman wrote:
War is wrong. The real question is, "Who is the best mass murderer?".


"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

~John Stuart Mill



Thats a retarded quote, it's been shown time and time again that fights only lead to more fights, there are far better ways to "fight" for something than actual battle against other fellow human beings.


Yeah, sure. It was right to let Hitler annex Austria in 1938. It was right to let Hitler annex Czechoslovakia. It was right to support munich agreement, because peace is always better than war, right? Tell people of Soviet Union, that their war was wrong, because, you know, they could just dance with flowers and no one would get hurt, right?



Exactly. War sucks, but the only reason people can be pasifists is because they hide behind massive armies that keep them safe.


Thank you for saying that ^>^ I find it ironic that people wouldn't have the right to protest if it wasn't for war keeping them free

anyways my favourite general was Rommel
hihihi
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 04 2011 05:20 GMT
#728
On August 04 2011 13:47 Avi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 12:07 nArAnjO wrote:
On April 29 2011 03:25 jcarlson08 wrote:
On February 15 2011 15:36 HansMoleman wrote:
War is wrong. The real question is, "Who is the best mass murderer?".


"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

~John Stuart Mill



Thats a retarded quote, it's been shown time and time again that fights only lead to more fights, there are far better ways to "fight" for something than actual battle against other fellow human beings.


Yeah, sure. It was right to let Hitler annex Austria in 1938. It was right to let Hitler annex Czechoslovakia. It was right to support munich agreement, because peace is always better than war, right? Tell people of Soviet Union, that their war was wrong, because, you know, they could just dance with flowers and no one would get hurt, right?

Whaaa.. What part of the war? You mean the part where the Soviet Union invaded Poland or Finland or the part where the Reich betrayed them? Dude there were no principles in WW2 that were innocent. Only varying degrees of blood stains.


As far as on topic goes I've always been a fan of Liu Bei. Not that I particularly believe the Romance of the Three Kingdoms account is accurate but he seemed like a pretty legit guy. I'm not a fan of the 20th century roll call in this thread. I see well executed strategies against inferior opponents- not the brilliance of antiquity. Who knows, maybe it's all a crock. I like General Mills.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Murkinlol
Profile Joined August 2010
United States366 Posts
August 04 2011 05:22 GMT
#729
Cyrus the great and Alexander the great imo
Ratchets, designer jackets
johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
August 04 2011 05:27 GMT
#730
Has anyone mentioned Genghis Khan yet?

Biggest empire? check.
2800 people killed in honor of your death? check.
Badass mustache? check and check.

Basically a real life Khal Drogo, but about 20% cooler.
MozzarellaL
Profile Joined November 2010
United States822 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 05:32:20
August 04 2011 05:31 GMT
#731
On August 04 2011 14:27 johanngrunt wrote:
Has anyone mentioned Genghis Khan yet?

Biggest empire? check.
2800 people killed in honor of your death? check.
Badass mustache? check and check.

Basically a real life Khal Drogo, but about 20% cooler.

You forgot to mention the part where he made 8% of the people living in the region of former Mongol Empire his direct descendants because of his powerful testicles.
Avi-
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany58 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 05:35:42
August 04 2011 05:34 GMT
#732
On August 04 2011 14:20 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 13:47 Avi- wrote:
On August 04 2011 12:07 nArAnjO wrote:
On April 29 2011 03:25 jcarlson08 wrote:
On February 15 2011 15:36 HansMoleman wrote:
War is wrong. The real question is, "Who is the best mass murderer?".


"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

~John Stuart Mill



Thats a retarded quote, it's been shown time and time again that fights only lead to more fights, there are far better ways to "fight" for something than actual battle against other fellow human beings.


Yeah, sure. It was right to let Hitler annex Austria in 1938. It was right to let Hitler annex Czechoslovakia. It was right to support munich agreement, because peace is always better than war, right? Tell people of Soviet Union, that their war was wrong, because, you know, they could just dance with flowers and no one would get hurt, right?

Whaaa.. What part of the war? You mean the part where the Soviet Union invaded Poland or Finland or the part where the Reich betrayed them? Dude there were no principles in WW2 that were innocent. Only varying degrees of blood stains.

First of all, Finland War was not part of WW2. And you know exactly what part i mean, part where people were fighting for their home, children, for their own life.
emjaytron
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia544 Posts
August 04 2011 06:01 GMT
#733
On August 04 2011 14:27 johanngrunt wrote:
Has anyone mentioned Genghis Khan yet?

Biggest empire? check.
2800 people killed in honor of your death? check.
Badass mustache? check and check.

Basically a real life Khal Drogo, but about 20% cooler.


Tsubodai (Subutai) was Genghis Khan's greatest general though. Genghis was the force that bound the Mongols together, Subutai was the real tactician
Grubby - SaSe - Oz - Hero
nubcak3
Profile Joined July 2010
United States104 Posts
August 04 2011 06:11 GMT
#734
On February 15 2011 15:01 Coagulation wrote:
The Desert fox


Erwin Rommel
“Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, [etc]. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.” - Bruce Lee
RavenLoud
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1100 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 08:45:52
August 04 2011 08:35 GMT
#735
On August 04 2011 14:20 Probe1 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 04 2011 13:47 Avi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 12:07 nArAnjO wrote:
On April 29 2011 03:25 jcarlson08 wrote:
On February 15 2011 15:36 HansMoleman wrote:
War is wrong. The real question is, "Who is the best mass murderer?".


"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

~John Stuart Mill



Thats a retarded quote, it's been shown time and time again that fights only lead to more fights, there are far better ways to "fight" for something than actual battle against other fellow human beings.


Yeah, sure. It was right to let Hitler annex Austria in 1938. It was right to let Hitler annex Czechoslovakia. It was right to support munich agreement, because peace is always better than war, right? Tell people of Soviet Union, that their war was wrong, because, you know, they could just dance with flowers and no one would get hurt, right?

Whaaa.. What part of the war? You mean the part where the Soviet Union invaded Poland or Finland or the part where the Reich betrayed them? Dude there were no principles in WW2 that were innocent. Only varying degrees of blood stains.


As far as on topic goes I've always been a fan of Liu Bei. Not that I particularly believe the Romance of the Three Kingdoms account is accurate but he seemed like a pretty legit guy. I'm not a fan of the 20th century roll call in this thread. I see well executed strategies against inferior opponents- not the brilliance of antiquity. Who knows, maybe it's all a crock. I like General Mills.

Liu Bei is one of the least capable military leaders of the time. His tactics consists of following some traditional honor code, crying (literally, he cries when people disagree with him) when he doesn't get his way, and use better people than him to actually do stuff. (Lots of incredibly talented people that he bought to his side by being incredibly honorable and charismatic, which is probably the best and the only skill the guy had. That makes him a talented politician perhaps, but not a general.)
imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
August 04 2011 08:43 GMT
#736
On August 04 2011 14:20 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 13:47 Avi- wrote:
On August 04 2011 12:07 nArAnjO wrote:
On April 29 2011 03:25 jcarlson08 wrote:
On February 15 2011 15:36 HansMoleman wrote:
War is wrong. The real question is, "Who is the best mass murderer?".


"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

~John Stuart Mill



Thats a retarded quote, it's been shown time and time again that fights only lead to more fights, there are far better ways to "fight" for something than actual battle against other fellow human beings.


Yeah, sure. It was right to let Hitler annex Austria in 1938. It was right to let Hitler annex Czechoslovakia. It was right to support munich agreement, because peace is always better than war, right? Tell people of Soviet Union, that their war was wrong, because, you know, they could just dance with flowers and no one would get hurt, right?

Whaaa.. What part of the war? You mean the part where the Soviet Union invaded Poland or Finland or the part where the Reich betrayed them? Dude there were no principles in WW2 that were innocent. Only varying degrees of blood stains.


As far as on topic goes I've always been a fan of Liu Bei. Not that I particularly believe the Romance of the Three Kingdoms account is accurate but he seemed like a pretty legit guy. I'm not a fan of the 20th century roll call in this thread. I see well executed strategies against inferior opponents- not the brilliance of antiquity. Who knows, maybe it's all a crock. I like General Mills.


Guy was a cool king, but the general for that side was Zhu-ge Liang. If it weren't for him, the Shu-Han would've been wiped out extremely quickly.
im deaf
hyperknight
Profile Joined May 2011
294 Posts
August 04 2011 08:57 GMT
#737
Genghis Khan, there is no comparison. A nomad race with nothing but horses and steel conquered 80% of Asia including some of east Europe, beating most of nations who had far superior technology. If that doesn't make a great general, i dunno what does.
"you 6poll?" - aLive to IdrA on NASL Sunday Showmatch, Feb 2012
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
August 04 2011 09:00 GMT
#738
It's hard to catch up on 37 pages of topic, and I'm sure many people already reacted to it, but it's a little annoying seeing once again Hitler being called a good general.

I often hear this, but the reality is that he was beyond awful, he cost a lot of lives with his retarded, emotional decisions. He had success in the beginning by using unconventional tactics, but once people caught up to it, and the longer the war drew on, the more obvious it became he was clueless.

He was, in many ways, the equivalent of a gold league cheeser.
AugustDreams
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia127 Posts
August 04 2011 09:22 GMT
#739
The first General who came to my mind is Genghis Khan, but most of my information comes from Age of Empires XD.
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Brilliance
Profile Joined June 2011
United States28 Posts
August 04 2011 09:30 GMT
#740
Napoleon.
I feel sorry for you, Parting...
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