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Premier
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States503 Posts
August 04 2011 04:24 GMT
#701
We'll, in starcraft you sort of act like a general, commanding units and all that... so I'd have to go with General Nestea...
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GrimReefer
Profile Joined March 2011
United States442 Posts
August 04 2011 04:25 GMT
#702
Napoleon hands down.

it took several alliances, several tries to finally defeat him. they exile him to an un-industrialized island, and in like 5 years he has an efficient iron mine and an agricultural system developed. he leaves the island and lands in france. the troops sent to capture him (like 100 v 1 or something ridiculous) make him their leader and follow him to paris. when he met the troops after landing in france he said something along the lines of, "I am and your general, if you've come to kill me do it now..."

it's just badass to think that after it took so much to defeat him, he just patiently created the infrastructure needed to leave his prison island, met the troops sent to kill him and told them, I'm in charge let's take paris!

and he had one of the 3 greatest victories in military history. only 3 battles have been complete slaughters i guess, and he was responsible for one.
You're rapping about homosexuals and Vicodin, I can't sell this sh*t.
InfamousSC2
Profile Joined June 2011
United States35 Posts
August 04 2011 04:26 GMT
#703
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Only was held back by Hitler's incompetence. In that regard, Hitler actually did the world a favor by not letting Rommel reach his full potential
Disregard women, acquire currency
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
August 04 2011 04:26 GMT
#704
On August 04 2011 11:31 VictorJones wrote:
I'm glad you bumped it. Now people are gonna be like, "Why is this thread here again?" :D

I'm gonna go with Xerxes. His arrows blotted out the sun ffs. I have tremendous respect for the man. All he required was a simple tribute of earth and water but that bastard Leonidas had to spit in his face. Even the great Leonidas fell to this God-King though
Semi-Sarcastic if u can't tell



Idk how xerxes gets in there he failed pretty hard in his greek campaign. He literally didn't have any major victories in that campaign that were close to worth it, he inherited and squandered what darius left him.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
Trajan98
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada203 Posts
August 04 2011 04:27 GMT
#705
I`m interested as to why so many place Hannibal and Napoleon as the best ever. They were both great at winning battles, but made a lot of bad decisions which ended in them losing wars and ultimately being sent into exile. I can see them being ranked at the top if your criteria is only battle field tactics and logistics, but there is more to being a general then just winning battles because you have to win the war in the end. I`m not saying they should`t be ranked among the greatest, but someone like Alexander the Great who never lost a battle or a war and conquered a vast amount of territory seems to be a better pick if your making an argument for the greatest ever.
Jaxtyk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States600 Posts
August 04 2011 04:28 GMT
#706
Yi Sun-sin
To tell the truth....I could beat anyone in the world.
nArAnjO
Profile Joined October 2002
Peru2571 Posts
August 04 2011 04:29 GMT
#707
On August 04 2011 12:12 Mjolnir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 12:07 nArAnjO wrote:
On April 29 2011 03:25 jcarlson08 wrote:
On February 15 2011 15:36 HansMoleman wrote:
War is wrong. The real question is, "Who is the best mass murderer?".


"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

~John Stuart Mill



Thats a retarded quote, it's been shown time and time again that fights only lead to more fights, there are far better ways to "fight" for something than actual battle against other fellow human beings.

Just the mention of patriotic feelings amuses me, it's just imaginary lines, we are all born in the same planet.


It has also been shown numerous times that fights end fights.



Didn't know we had no fights anymore! cool
j3i
Profile Joined February 2011
United States357 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 04:30:59
August 04 2011 04:29 GMT
#708
general tso

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I am an idiot who knows only about gaming, so there is nothing private to talk about to begin with. - Bisu
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 04:29:43
August 04 2011 04:29 GMT
#709
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Shame the fever took him so young :\
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
InfamousSC2
Profile Joined June 2011
United States35 Posts
August 04 2011 04:29 GMT
#710
On February 15 2011 13:53 Shrinky Dink wrote:
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Seriously though, if you look past the horrors he did, he was actually an excellent speaker, with his war machine being responsible for some of the greatest advances in technology and science, and recovered his country's extreme deficit in its economy at the time (following the Treaty of Versailles).

I know it's obviously that he wasn't the greatest of all time, but IMO he is very underrated as a leader for his country since everyone looks at his cons.


Not to berate your opinion, most of the things you mentioned made Hitler a great politician and not a great general. If he had let his generals who actually had military knowledge order the German military, then the outcome of the war could have been very different. On many occasions Hitler's incompetence as a commander cost the German army dearly. One of the most notable occasions this happened on was Stalingrad which was the beginning of the end for 3rd Reich
Disregard women, acquire currency
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
August 04 2011 04:30 GMT
#711
Alexander the great should be up there.
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
August 04 2011 04:32 GMT
#712
On August 04 2011 13:25 GrimReefer wrote:
Napoleon hands down.

it took several alliances, several tries to finally defeat him. they exile him to an un-industrialized island, and in like 5 years he has an efficient iron mine and an agricultural system developed. he leaves the island and lands in france. the troops sent to capture him (like 100 v 1 or something ridiculous) make him their leader and follow him to paris. when he met the troops after landing in france he said something along the lines of, "I am and your general, if you've come to kill me do it now..."

it's just badass to think that after it took so much to defeat him, he just patiently created the infrastructure needed to leave his prison island, met the troops sent to kill him and told them, I'm in charge let's take paris!

and he had one of the 3 greatest victories in military history. only 3 battles have been complete slaughters i guess, and he was responsible for one.



The politics and intrigue are almost completely due to tallyrand not bonaparte, he had very little to do with his escape.
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Ludrik
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia523 Posts
August 04 2011 04:33 GMT
#713
Sir John Monash. He played an instrumental role in the western front and pioneered technologies such as using aircraft to relay information back to commanders. His strategies were much more progressive than the british high command of the time.
Only a fool would die laughing. I was a fool.
ZiRn1tRa
Profile Joined September 2010
Czech Republic54 Posts
August 04 2011 04:34 GMT
#714
On February 15 2011 13:49 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Stonewall Muthafuckin Jackson
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obvious greatest general is obvious
InfamousSC2
Profile Joined June 2011
United States35 Posts
August 04 2011 04:35 GMT
#715
On February 15 2011 14:17 gogogadgetflow wrote:
Don't know how this hasn't been said yet

General Tso:
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Best chicken ever


Unfortunately, General Tso never ate the chicken himself lol
Disregard women, acquire currency
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
August 04 2011 04:36 GMT
#716
I honestly don't see the argument against alexander that can be put forth, I mean win every battle undermanned, never lose, conquer you entire known world. I mean his forrays into modern day afghanistan were not really victories but neither were they true battles. The fact that his men followed him to parts of the world they had never heard of for a decade without seeing family or home, while being outnumbered most of the time by foreigners they had conquered is pretty impressive. Their may have been better tactical minds or inventors of styles but by every meaning of general I can see no reason to put anyone close to him.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
Mjolnir
Profile Joined January 2009
912 Posts
August 04 2011 04:40 GMT
#717
On August 04 2011 13:29 nArAnjO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 12:12 Mjolnir wrote:
On August 04 2011 12:07 nArAnjO wrote:
On April 29 2011 03:25 jcarlson08 wrote:
On February 15 2011 15:36 HansMoleman wrote:
War is wrong. The real question is, "Who is the best mass murderer?".


"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

~John Stuart Mill



Thats a retarded quote, it's been shown time and time again that fights only lead to more fights, there are far better ways to "fight" for something than actual battle against other fellow human beings.

Just the mention of patriotic feelings amuses me, it's just imaginary lines, we are all born in the same planet.


It has also been shown numerous times that fights end fights.



Didn't know we had no fights anymore! cool


Right, 'cause God forbid there be fights starting that are completely unrelated to the ones finished (in whatever fashion).

Honestly.

MozzarellaL
Profile Joined November 2010
United States822 Posts
August 04 2011 04:45 GMT
#718
On April 27 2011 03:27 Nerdslayer wrote:
Spartacus ofc he is the greatest general ever. He took on the hole roman empire he beat several of its generals before he got defeated and he only got deafeated becuase his army of slaves "peasents" got 2 big had 100k man under his command.

He basically invented "guerilla warfare"

Kind of hard to take on the whole roman empire when it didn't even exist.
QurtStarcraft
Profile Joined January 2011
United States162 Posts
August 04 2011 04:45 GMT
#719
I think Patton is the best general. WW2 HERO
Avi-
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany58 Posts
August 04 2011 04:47 GMT
#720
On August 04 2011 12:07 nArAnjO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 03:25 jcarlson08 wrote:
On February 15 2011 15:36 HansMoleman wrote:
War is wrong. The real question is, "Who is the best mass murderer?".


"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

~John Stuart Mill



Thats a retarded quote, it's been shown time and time again that fights only lead to more fights, there are far better ways to "fight" for something than actual battle against other fellow human beings.


Yeah, sure. It was right to let Hitler annex Austria in 1938. It was right to let Hitler annex Czechoslovakia. It was right to support munich agreement, because peace is always better than war, right? Tell people of Soviet Union, that their war was wrong, because, you know, they could just dance with flowers and no one would get hurt, right?
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