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IBM Watson Computer Beats Jeopardy Pros - Page 6

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Souljah
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States423 Posts
February 15 2011 19:03 GMT
#101
Ive got my own Watson. Its called www.google.com
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
February 15 2011 19:07 GMT
#102
On February 16 2011 03:27 metaphoR wrote:
The thing is, humans win this challenge no matter what. as said in the 20 minute video in the OP, all it takes is a tuna sandwich and a glass or water to power a human brain that can fit in a shoebox. compare that to what it takes Watson to compete, humans win every time.

So a very muscular person loses by default to a non-muscular one ? The point of this game is to come up with the correct answer, weight and power requirements are not part of it yet
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
February 15 2011 19:08 GMT
#103
This is really crazy. It will revolutionize medicine and developing differential diagnoses. I have a feeling that we will see this more and more in medicine over our lifetime.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
February 15 2011 19:09 GMT
#104
This is nice and timely. I was about to finish up a 10-page essay on AI, and I was going to include a section about Deep Blue. This seems much more relevant and up to date
UisTehSux
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States693 Posts
February 15 2011 19:30 GMT
#105
When they make an AI that can beat flash, then and only then is when we should be scared.
I underestimated that boy. No... it was not the boy I underestimated, it was the Triforce of Courage.
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
February 15 2011 19:36 GMT
#106
On February 16 2011 04:03 Souljah wrote:
Ive got my own Watson. Its called www.google.com

I wish Google would return only 1 result ever, the one i was looking for. Which is precisely one of the applications of Watson.
aeoliant
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada361 Posts
February 15 2011 19:40 GMT
#107
haha my dad surprised me and visited me where i live (he lives like 2 hours away) and we watched this together (he works for IBM and I work for an iOS company) and the computer was very good i was impressed. It would be really really scary if Watson had internet access (and had some kind of speech recognition)... we're not so far away from personal ai helpers (in labs, homes, vehicles) I can't fucking wait although I may be waiting for a long time
metaphoR
Profile Joined May 2010
United States199 Posts
February 15 2011 19:52 GMT
#108
On February 16 2011 04:36 Nizaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 04:03 Souljah wrote:
Ive got my own Watson. Its called www.google.com

I wish Google would return only 1 result ever, the one i was looking for. Which is precisely one of the applications of Watson.


its only right 70% of the time though

https://spreadsheets.google.com/lv?hl=en&key=tth_jhM8vyBAuogqHllHmHQ&toomany=true
michaelthe
Profile Joined February 2010
United States359 Posts
February 15 2011 21:04 GMT
#109
Does it instantly buzz in then get the 5 seconds to try and find an answer? Or find the answer then buzz in?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-15 21:30:50
February 15 2011 21:26 GMT
#110
On February 16 2011 06:04 michaelthe wrote:
Does it instantly buzz in then get the 5 seconds to try and find an answer? Or find the answer then buzz in?


it develops confidence in an answer based on a % it thinks it's correct. when confidence reaches a certain point it buzzes in. the percentage of confidence it needs to buzz in is based on it's current score compared to the score of it's opponents.


On February 15 2011 14:51 catamorphist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2011 13:39 Lucid90 wrote:
I can make this program in 5 minutes.
Step 1: upload some software that will understand human voice
Step 2: google the question because it's a fucking computer. You can just stick a tiny usb stick that connects to the internet underneath all those layers of computers.
Step 3: write the code that will make the computer pick the most likely answer

congradulations IBM, you now have marketed your products to an even greater audience.


i know the secret to eternal life

Step 1: don't get hit by a bus
Step 2: eat fucking vegetables and shit
Step 3: cure aging

congradulations was it that hard?? y doesnt ibm do this



wow this post is amazing lol
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
February 15 2011 21:26 GMT
#111
On February 16 2011 06:04 michaelthe wrote:
Does it instantly buzz in then get the 5 seconds to try and find an answer? Or find the answer then buzz in?


Watson only "buzzes in" via robotic hand movement when it finds an answer that exceeds a specific certainty threshold that is programmed in.
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Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-15 21:37:40
February 15 2011 21:27 GMT
#112
Does anyone have a date for when the episode will be aired?

Nvm, they're showing 3 episodes between the 14th and the 16th.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
February 15 2011 21:29 GMT
#113
On February 16 2011 04:07 mcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 03:27 metaphoR wrote:
The thing is, humans win this challenge no matter what. as said in the 20 minute video in the OP, all it takes is a tuna sandwich and a glass or water to power a human brain that can fit in a shoebox. compare that to what it takes Watson to compete, humans win every time.

So a very muscular person loses by default to a non-muscular one ? The point of this game is to come up with the correct answer, weight and power requirements are not part of it yet


plus, humans take 20 years to boot up after putting them together
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
February 15 2011 21:32 GMT
#114
On February 16 2011 04:52 metaphoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 04:36 Nizaris wrote:
On February 16 2011 04:03 Souljah wrote:
Ive got my own Watson. Its called www.google.com

I wish Google would return only 1 result ever, the one i was looking for. Which is precisely one of the applications of Watson.


its only right 70% of the time though

https://spreadsheets.google.com/lv?hl=en&key=tth_jhM8vyBAuogqHllHmHQ&toomany=true


It should be noted that is based on an extremely small sample size, so it is not conclusive that Watson is "70% accurate" at producing the correct answer. Also, what many still fail to realize is how difficult it is to program a computer to understand the nuances of the english language into such a way to be able to discern the important information from the unimportant bits, and then also find the correct answer. For instance, you need to program the AI to understand the context of a sentence to understand the keywords and puns.

To everyone critical of Watson: Read some articles and videos on how Watson operates before forming your opinions on whether or not it is an impressive feat.
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
February 15 2011 22:06 GMT
#115
On February 16 2011 06:32 EscPlan9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 04:52 metaphoR wrote:
On February 16 2011 04:36 Nizaris wrote:
On February 16 2011 04:03 Souljah wrote:
Ive got my own Watson. Its called www.google.com

I wish Google would return only 1 result ever, the one i was looking for. Which is precisely one of the applications of Watson.


its only right 70% of the time though

https://spreadsheets.google.com/lv?hl=en&key=tth_jhM8vyBAuogqHllHmHQ&toomany=true


It should be noted that is based on an extremely small sample size, so it is not conclusive that Watson is "70% accurate" at producing the correct answer. Also, what many still fail to realize is how difficult it is to program a computer to understand the nuances of the english language into such a way to be able to discern the important information from the unimportant bits, and then also find the correct answer. For instance, you need to program the AI to understand the context of a sentence to understand the keywords and puns.

To everyone critical of Watson: Read some articles and videos on how Watson operates before forming your opinions on whether or not it is an impressive feat.


Assuming they are correct the posts saying the following things were enough to impress me:

Instead of using specialised databases for Jeopardy, it uses alogarithms to break down text and attempts to find the subject matter, verbs, grammar, etc. From there correlates and interrelates words and phrases so it can make confidence percentages (Jeopardy displays this as the answer panel) and hypotheses. Basically it can "learn" by itself in a very primative way and if it gets something wrong it goes "oh I'm wrong, these sets of words can be used in this way!" and changes its confidences and construct possibly more accurate hypotheses.


it develops confidence in an answer based on a % it thinks it's correct. when confidence reaches a certain point it buzzes in. the percentage of confidence it needs to buzz in is based on it's current score compared to the score of it's opponents.


How is everyone else not impressed by that? That's very impressive for a computer, even if it is the simplest way for a human to learn.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
lixlix
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States482 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-15 22:57:21
February 15 2011 22:56 GMT
#116
The people relating this to Google are missing the point. The practical applications for something like Watson are super vast.

For one, human helpdesks and tech support will be rendered obsolete and that is only the start.
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-15 23:15:50
February 15 2011 23:15 GMT
#117
On February 16 2011 07:56 lixlix wrote:
The people relating this to Google are missing the point. The practical applications for something like Watson are super vast.

For one, human helpdesks and tech support will be rendered obsolete and that is only the start.


Hey, hey! Don't say that. . . I'll be out of a job then. I'll seriously kill myself if I'm still doing this bullshit when this technology becomes mainstream.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25993 Posts
February 15 2011 23:18 GMT
#118
On February 16 2011 06:26 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 06:04 michaelthe wrote:
Does it instantly buzz in then get the 5 seconds to try and find an answer? Or find the answer then buzz in?


it develops confidence in an answer based on a % it thinks it's correct. when confidence reaches a certain point it buzzes in. the percentage of confidence it needs to buzz in is based on it's current score compared to the score of it's opponents.


Show nested quote +
On February 15 2011 14:51 catamorphist wrote:
On February 15 2011 13:39 Lucid90 wrote:
I can make this program in 5 minutes.
Step 1: upload some software that will understand human voice
Step 2: google the question because it's a fucking computer. You can just stick a tiny usb stick that connects to the internet underneath all those layers of computers.
Step 3: write the code that will make the computer pick the most likely answer

congradulations IBM, you now have marketed your products to an even greater audience.


i know the secret to eternal life

Step 1: don't get hit by a bus
Step 2: eat fucking vegetables and shit
Step 3: cure aging

congradulations was it that hard?? y doesnt ibm do this



wow this post is amazing lol

LOL that post is amazing haha
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AbstractVoid
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States127 Posts
February 15 2011 23:32 GMT
#119
I think this is absolutely amazing that they are able to develop software this far. As a programmer myself I think this is a breathtaking piece of technology and I can't wait to see what they do next. Utilizing AI in all sectors could very well be the next major set of advancements for technology. Already I can see applications in a medical, engineering, and even personal settings (not to mention warfare) as a more intelligent and easier way to accomplish complicated tasks.
555
Profile Joined September 2010
56 Posts
February 15 2011 23:33 GMT
#120
I have never really understood jeopardy, so when I heard about Watson from some friends, I wasn't too impressed since I thought it would just be some kinda google search.

However, after looking at the questions and videos, I am absolutely amazed and excited. Natural language processing is one of those things where humans outperforms computers. However, the technology used for Watson will eventually allow us to have actual conversations with computers.

I look forward to being able to go up to my computer and ask "find me some build orders lulz" and it would go on the internet, google it up, read through all the forums and return with a bunch of build orders and arguments on which are good or bad.
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