On February 16 2011 11:46 carbon_based wrote: i had an audition for jeopardy in september and did pretty well, damn well for a 21 year old. im stoked that a quality company like IBM would sponsor jeopardy which, lets admit is getting less and less popular, however a 3 day event with prior contestants... thats 6 slots that could have gone to me, basically to show off a really good search engine.
I am on West coast so watching this ownage by Watson currently...not fair, they could have given humans a little more time to move their fingers to push the button lol.
On February 16 2011 11:46 carbon_based wrote: i had an audition for jeopardy in september and did pretty well, damn well for a 21 year old. im stoked that a quality company like IBM would sponsor jeopardy which, lets admit is getting less and less popular, however a 3 day event with prior contestants... thats 6 slots that could have gone to me, basically to show off a really good search engine.
Well, the whole point was to compete against the best humans. If Ken and Brad are having trouble keeping up, do you think you could do better? =P
On topic, after watching those background videos it's pretty mindblowing how impressive Watson is. Once this technology becomes cheaper and more mainstream it'll be amazing what effects it will have.
And damnit, I was busy watching the NOVA Docu on the show and missed the program on TV >.< It goes really indepth about this 'machine learning' where it takes answers and bases the format of the questions or sentence structures and picks the best answers for categories. Really really intense shit.
Watson shat on Ken and Brad on Tues. Lets hope for a better fight tomorrow.
I would hope that Ken and Brad are given a little more time to hit the buzzer. It seems that if Watson knows a question it will guess first, regardless of whether the other two have to say about it.
The reason Ken and Brad are getting shit on is because the computer can buzz much faster than they can. You can see half the time the expression on Kens face is fucking damn it I didn't buzz fast enough but knew the answer. The computer allegedly does it the same way with some push technology but it activates the push the second that the buzzer is available meaning 80% of the time it's going to buzz much faster than Ken and Brad.
On February 16 2011 12:57 Chimpalimp wrote: Watson shat on Ken and Brad on Tues. Lets hope for a better fight tomorrow.
I would hope that Ken and Brad are given a little more time to hit the buzzer. It seems that if Watson knows a question it will guess first, regardless of whether the other two have to say about it.
I think the feed of the question should be given to Watson the moment trebek finishes talking (if it's not already). Seems kind of like he gets the full question the moment it pops on the screen. The buzzer function is still limited by a mechanical counterpart to emulate human thumb press, but still if it's processing a few seconds before the humans that's an advantage. And since there is a start time for when you can actually buzz in, that may be programmed in to coordinate with that delay of the mechanical button press making it very very very hard to beat the computer at pressing the button.
So in other words, everyone knows the answer, but ofc the computer wins the button pressing contest.
Regardless, the point of the whole exhibition is not necessarily to see who's going to win, but to showcase how fucking amazing computing is these days.
(if we could still see watson's answers at the same moment the humans buzzed in faster, we could still determine this a success for computing. It makes no difference)
I've always hated the "button pushing" aspect of the game. Half the time EVERYONE knows the answer to the questions, but the game comes down to who has the fastest reflexes. I would much rather see a format such as final jep where everyone gets to answer the question and the final score would be a better representation of the true champion.
On February 16 2011 12:57 Chimpalimp wrote: Watson shat on Ken and Brad on Tues. Lets hope for a better fight tomorrow.
I would hope that Ken and Brad are given a little more time to hit the buzzer. It seems that if Watson knows a question it will guess first, regardless of whether the other two have to say about it.
I think the feed of the question should be given to Watson the moment trebek finishes talking (if it's not already). Seems kind of like he gets the full question the moment it pops on the screen. The buzzer function is still limited by a mechanical counterpart to emulate human thumb press, but still if it's processing a few seconds before the humans that's an advantage. And since there is a start time for when you can actually buzz in, that may be programmed in to coordinate with that delay of the mechanical button press making it very very very hard to beat the computer at pressing the button.
So in other words, everyone knows the answer, but ofc the computer wins the button pressing contest.
Regardless, the point of the whole exhibition is not necessarily to see who's going to win, but to showcase how fucking amazing computing is these days.
(if we could still see watson's answers at the same moment the humans buzzed in faster, we could still determine this a success for computing. It makes no difference)
From what I understand, it does not actuate the button until it reaches a certain confidence level. It is fed the question as soon as the question is finished I believe. As impressive as Watson's language processing is, any computer could reach the same confidence levels with Watson's software, given a few hours or days that is.
On February 16 2011 13:10 Bajadulce wrote: I've always hated the "button pushing" aspect of the game. Half the time EVERYONE knows the answer to the questions, but the game comes down to who has the fastest reflexes. I would much rather see a format such as final jep where everyone gets to answer the question and the final score would be a better representation of the true champion.
Good point. We can't ever know the human answers/guesses but we can always see Watson's from the display.
Imo they should redo the show and do every question like that. just to see how they really stack up.
I think it would be more interesting if Watson had an audio/video feed on the avatar, and actually had to listen to Trebek like the other contestants. It would add another layer of complexity (and arguably fairness) to each question, as a lot of the time, intonation and pacing are clues to the answer.
Pretty spectacular stuff, though. Imagine the day when we can carry around Watson-like computers on our watches or phones.
On February 16 2011 13:23 sevia wrote: I think it would be more interesting if Watson had an audio/video feed on the avatar, and actually had to listen to Trebek like the other contestants. It would add another layer of complexity (and arguably fairness) to each question, as a lot of the time, intonation and pacing are clues to the answer.
Pretty spectacular stuff, though. Imagine the day when we can carry around Watson-like computers on our watches or phones.
yea, if you watch the NOVA docu it talks alot about speech recognition. It didn't look very erroneous so I think they should have to be perfectly honest.
A person can read the question before Alex reads it aloud if they choose to do so and also buzz in without "knowing" the answer yet, if they know they can recall or remember it before time is up or shortly after. What's somewhat scary is actually that it shows the computing power that it can process the question, formulate an answer with high enough confidence to warrant buzzing in, and buzz in in that small window.
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