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On February 16 2011 19:57 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2011 19:39 igotmyown wrote:
For matches against the machine, if a contestent buzzes in within some small time period (like .25 seconds) and the computer does as well, someone should be randomly selected to answer. Yeah these matches are kind of stupid. They didn't prove they could build a computer that can beat a human at jeopardy, all they've proven is that they've built a robot that can click a buzzer faster than a human..
The competitive aspect is almost irrelevant. It can understand a sentence in 2-3s that's all that matters.
The wait for the host to finish reading the question rule is dumb however. They should let ppl buzz whenever they feel like it.
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+ Show Spoiler +On January 20 2011 14:52 SpoR wrote:In preliminary testing rounds. ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/mNgBr.jpg) http://www.tgdaily.com/sustainability-brief/53584-ibms-watson-computer-beats-human-players-in-jeopardyShow nested quote +After years of planning, IBM's learning, human-aware computer Watson was put to a competition like no other - a match of Jeopardy against quiz show heavyweights Ken Jennings and Brad Rutter. The result - Watson won. Barely.
The match, which Watson has been training for since 2009, was officially announced last year. At the end of last week, the multi-episode feature where Watson faces off against Jennings and Rutter was filmed.
But right before that, all three competed in a trial run at IBM's headquarters in New York State. The trial lasted as long as a normal game of Jeopardy would before its first commercial break - in other words, about enough time for the contestants to get through half of a round.
Right before the last clue of the round, Jennings and Watson were tied at $3,400. However, Watson chimed in to answer the final question and correctly identified the children's book Harold and the Purple Crayon. That set him ahead to $4,400. Rutter trailed at $1,200.
The full-length Jeopardy matches have been filmed, but no one is allowed to discuss the results. They'll be aired on TV next month, and at that time we'll really know who wins in the battle of man versus machine. Should be interesting. I'm sure everyone is aware of the Deep Blue Project (also by IBM) which beat chess pro Kasparov decades ago. Show nested quote +IBM and the producers of quiz show Jeopardy announced Tuesday that an IBM computer known as "Watson" will compete against two of the show's most successful contestants in February 2011.
Watson, named after IBM founder Thomas J. Watson, will go up against Ken Jennings and Brad Rutter (left) on February 14, 15, and 16 in two matches over three days. Jennings won 74 games in a row during the 2004-2005 season, taking home more than $2.5 million. Rutter is Jeopardy's highest-earning player, winning more than $3.25 million during several appearances in 2002 and 2005.
The grand prize for the Watson-Jennings-Rutter matchup will be $1 million, with second place winnings of $300,000 and a $200,000 third prize. Jennings and Rutter will donate 50 percent of their winnings to charity, while IBM will donate 100 percent of Watson's cash.
Getting Watson to the Jeopardy stage has taken several years. Many clues in Jeopardy rely on subtle word play, irony, and riddles, something at which humans excel but that computers have difficulty understanding. Essentially, IBM had to figure out how to get Watson to think.
"After four years, our scientific team believes that Watson is ready for this challenge based on its ability to rapidly comprehend what the Jeopardy clue is asking, analyze the information it has access to, come up with precise answers, and develop an accurate confidence in its response," Dr. David Ferrucci, head of the Watson research team, said in a statement. "Beyond our excitement for the match itself, our team is very motivated by the possibilities that Watson's breakthrough computing capabilities hold for building a smarter planet and helping people in their business tasks and personal lives."
In a video about Watson's journey (below), Ferrucci said said the nature of Jeopardy is "going to drive the technology in the right direction."
"It's got the broad domain aspect, asks all kinds of things, which was one of the challenges we really wanted to take on," he said. "It had the confidence aspect; don't answer unless you think you're right. You also had to do it really quickly."
IBM said the technology used by Watson could be helpful in areas like healthcare, to help accurately diagnose patients, to improve online self-service help desks, to provide tourists and citizens with specific information regarding cities, or prompt customer support via phone.
To prepare, Watson played more than 50 "sparring games" against former Jeopardy champions. Watson also took and passed the same Jeopardy test administered to all potential contestants.
In the video, Harry Friedman, executive producer of Jeopardy, said when IBM first approached the show, producers were intrigued but were also concerned about it being viewed as a stunt or gimmick.
"But this was different. This was the notion of knowledge acquired by a computer against knowledge acquired and displayed by the best Jeopardy players," Friedman said. "This could be something important, and we want to be a part of it."
Friedman and other producers first watched Watson in action in December 2009, when it sparred against two other human contestants.
Watson is powered by an IBM POWER7 server, which is optimized to handle the massive number of tasks that Watson must perform at rapid speeds, IBM said. The machine also has a number of proprietary technologies that handle concurrent tasks and data while analyzing information in real time. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2374331,00.aspThere are also a ton more videos about Watson on YT This is the most indepth video I found so far. It describes the algorithm and abilities of the computer.
UPDATE 2/15/11+ Show Spoiler [Day 1 Episode] ++ Show Spoiler [Day 2 Episode] ++ Show Spoiler [Day 3 Episode] +Nova special dunno if a full upload to YT is up yet but you can watch on NOVA site here http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/smartest-machine-on-earth.html+ Show Spoiler [Tues Feb 14th] + Watson $5,000 , Ken $2,000, Brad $5,000
WOW Watson $35,734 , Ken $4,800, Brad $10,400
OMG! Watson ?k , Ken?k, Brad ?k
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OP's post above.
Deep Blue did not fairly beat Gary Kasparov, read up on the controversy of that match and you can clearly see that it did not.
As for the Jeopardy machine, how can someone ever believe we can beat a computer in a quiz?
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On February 16 2011 20:27 W2 wrote:
I am having a hard time understanding this. With the wikipedia and google I don't think it is possible to get an answer wrong. Of course the computer would win.
again: it has no internet access and the real feat here is not giving answers to keywords but actually parsing the syntax and semantic of the question to come up with the answer.
Go ahead and google the questions that were asked that won't be very successful. Maybe the right answer is somewhere among the first results but you'd still have to know which word is the answer on the result-pages.
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WOW
I am stunned... I heard of Watson a while back, now I see what it can do... the amount of work just to get Watson to understand the question and then answer it must have been nuts.
Good Job IBM
Go Watson!
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IBM hurt themselves in a way by doing so well with Watson. People don't understand how hard this actually was.
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teaching computers to understand the meaning of language is a huge step in AI. if you have ever dreamed of having a robot that will do your house work it needs to understand what you mean when you say something.
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Woah impressive! Wonder how computer will know, which ones have already been taken out^^
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On February 16 2011 20:42 Believer wrote:
As for the Jeopardy machine, how can someone ever believe we can beat a computer in a quiz?
well, jeopardy questions are structured very strangely, so to process it is actually quite a significant feat that people REALLY underestimate here.
but it also seems like buzzing speed is an issue here. i knew that would come into play.
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I am so excited for tonight. Some IBM guys are coming to my university to talk about Watson today, then showing tonight's episode.
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I first read this as "IBM Watson Computer Beats Protoss" O_O been reading too much TL lately I suppose
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I agree that it made it look to easy - I tuned out during midway (not just because they gave a lot of profile information in both episodes), but Watson dominating the 2nd day got a bit dull. Seemed most of them knew the answers, but they can't outbuzz Watson is the main problem.
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On February 17 2011 01:47 Alejandrisha wrote:
I first read this as "IBM Watson Computer Beats Protoss" O_O been reading too much TL lately I suppose
I'd be interested if ibm could make a bot that doesn't hack map, mineral etc. And a bot that can beat most people.
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This is cool as hell. If you fully understand the meaning of this, it blows your mind. We're coming closer and closer as to having machines that can interact just like humans and fully understand our language, both body and speech.
On February 17 2011 02:31 semantics wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2011 01:47 Alejandrisha wrote:
I first read this as "IBM Watson Computer Beats Protoss" O_O been reading too much TL lately I suppose I'd be interested if ibm could make a bot that doesn't hack map, mineral etc. And a bot that can beat most people.
When we reach that point of computers to fully understand the world around it and interact accordingly, we will have computers that outmatches humans in Video games, no question about it.
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Yeah, I'd say the importance of Watson is not a computer's skill at Jeopardy. It's the fact that it can understand natural language that we take for granted as humans.
Now, I'm not completely sure how the Jeopardy buzzer system works. I played Quizbowl in high school, and that's what I'm familiar with. In Quizbowl, the reader reads the question, and at any point, you are allowed to buzz in. If you buzz in while he is still in the middle of the question, he will stop, and you don't get to hear any more of it. Then you answer, and if you're wrong, your team is locked out, and he reads the full question for the other team.
In Jeopardy, of course, Trebek always finishes the question. I'm wondering if the contestants are allowed to buzz-in during the question, and then Trebek finishes, and whoever buzzed in first gets to answer. The alternative is that no one is allowed to buzz until Trebek is done reading, and after that point, whoever buzzes first gets to answer.
The fact is that I knew about 80% of the answers that came up in the video for Double Jeopardy part 1 before Trebek was done reading the question, and were I the one playing, I'd attempt to buzz in as soon as I was allowed to. I'd assume that Rutter and Jennings therefore also know them, because they're definitely both more knowledgeable than me. The only reason Watson is winning by such a large margin, then, is that he's winning on the buzzer races.
That doesn't take away anything from the incredible feat that IBM has accomplished. The simple fact that he answers the questions properly is astounding. I'm just saying that people shouldn't look at the scores and say, "HOHOHO Watson so good, Jennings and Rutter = stoopid!!!!" Frankly, I don't think his knowledge outclasses their knowledge; only his reflexes do.
And I just realized that I've been using "his" as a pronoun for Watson. Interesting.
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On February 16 2011 20:35 Nizaris wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2011 19:57 BlackJack wrote:On February 16 2011 19:39 igotmyown wrote:
For matches against the machine, if a contestent buzzes in within some small time period (like .25 seconds) and the computer does as well, someone should be randomly selected to answer. Yeah these matches are kind of stupid. They didn't prove they could build a computer that can beat a human at jeopardy, all they've proven is that they've built a robot that can click a buzzer faster than a human.. The competitive aspect is almost irrelevant. It can understand a sentence in 2-3s that's all that matters. The wait for the host to finish reading the question rule is dumb however. They should let ppl buzz whenever they feel like it.
Well Alex has to finish reading the question for the t.v. audience otherwise the show would be unwatchable. If they let people lock in to answer before Alex finishes they'd all just spam the buzzer non-stop because these guys know the answer to over 90% of the questions so they will start buzzing before they even know what the question is.
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On February 16 2011 16:01 aztrorisk wrote:
Watson is a major disappointment.
Ken > Watson
First of all, Watson probably hacked the jeopardy system. Not that hard to program a computer to access the jeopardy system if it is connected directly to it. This is why it selected the daily double questions out of the blue. Comeon, it picked something for 800 and the rest for 200. Then it randomly picks something for 600 and then normally picks again when all the daily double are gone.
Ken > Watson
Troll? I mean how can you seriously think that what Watson is doing is "hacking the Jeopardy system"?
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I'm surprised by the number of people who thinks its difficult to come up with an AI to beat FLASH without mineral hack, map hack. Its amazingly trivial. Maybe not trivial for you or I but with the level of research and money on par with Watson or even 1/10 of Watson, it is fairly trivial.
I mean Deep Blue already beat Kasparov. In Chess you don't even have the mechanical disadvantages human BW players have against AI BW players.
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People talking about buzzing speed but I'd say that's a more minor issue than another.
The biggest issue to me would be that Watson can start analyzing the question instantly as soon as it's displayed, while a human has to read it which takes time.
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On February 16 2011 20:42 Believer wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 20 2011 14:52 SpoR wrote:In preliminary testing rounds. http://www.tgdaily.com/sustainability-brief/53584-ibms-watson-computer-beats-human-players-in-jeopardyShow nested quote +After years of planning, IBM's learning, human-aware computer Watson was put to a competition like no other - a match of Jeopardy against quiz show heavyweights Ken Jennings and Brad Rutter. The result - Watson won. Barely.
The match, which Watson has been training for since 2009, was officially announced last year. At the end of last week, the multi-episode feature where Watson faces off against Jennings and Rutter was filmed.
But right before that, all three competed in a trial run at IBM's headquarters in New York State. The trial lasted as long as a normal game of Jeopardy would before its first commercial break - in other words, about enough time for the contestants to get through half of a round.
Right before the last clue of the round, Jennings and Watson were tied at $3,400. However, Watson chimed in to answer the final question and correctly identified the children's book Harold and the Purple Crayon. That set him ahead to $4,400. Rutter trailed at $1,200.
The full-length Jeopardy matches have been filmed, but no one is allowed to discuss the results. They'll be aired on TV next month, and at that time we'll really know who wins in the battle of man versus machine. Should be interesting. I'm sure everyone is aware of the Deep Blue Project (also by IBM) which beat chess pro Kasparov decades ago. Show nested quote +IBM and the producers of quiz show Jeopardy announced Tuesday that an IBM computer known as "Watson" will compete against two of the show's most successful contestants in February 2011.
Watson, named after IBM founder Thomas J. Watson, will go up against Ken Jennings and Brad Rutter (left) on February 14, 15, and 16 in two matches over three days. Jennings won 74 games in a row during the 2004-2005 season, taking home more than $2.5 million. Rutter is Jeopardy's highest-earning player, winning more than $3.25 million during several appearances in 2002 and 2005.
The grand prize for the Watson-Jennings-Rutter matchup will be $1 million, with second place winnings of $300,000 and a $200,000 third prize. Jennings and Rutter will donate 50 percent of their winnings to charity, while IBM will donate 100 percent of Watson's cash.
Getting Watson to the Jeopardy stage has taken several years. Many clues in Jeopardy rely on subtle word play, irony, and riddles, something at which humans excel but that computers have difficulty understanding. Essentially, IBM had to figure out how to get Watson to think.
"After four years, our scientific team believes that Watson is ready for this challenge based on its ability to rapidly comprehend what the Jeopardy clue is asking, analyze the information it has access to, come up with precise answers, and develop an accurate confidence in its response," Dr. David Ferrucci, head of the Watson research team, said in a statement. "Beyond our excitement for the match itself, our team is very motivated by the possibilities that Watson's breakthrough computing capabilities hold for building a smarter planet and helping people in their business tasks and personal lives."
In a video about Watson's journey (below), Ferrucci said said the nature of Jeopardy is "going to drive the technology in the right direction."
"It's got the broad domain aspect, asks all kinds of things, which was one of the challenges we really wanted to take on," he said. "It had the confidence aspect; don't answer unless you think you're right. You also had to do it really quickly."
IBM said the technology used by Watson could be helpful in areas like healthcare, to help accurately diagnose patients, to improve online self-service help desks, to provide tourists and citizens with specific information regarding cities, or prompt customer support via phone.
To prepare, Watson played more than 50 "sparring games" against former Jeopardy champions. Watson also took and passed the same Jeopardy test administered to all potential contestants.
In the video, Harry Friedman, executive producer of Jeopardy, said when IBM first approached the show, producers were intrigued but were also concerned about it being viewed as a stunt or gimmick.
"But this was different. This was the notion of knowledge acquired by a computer against knowledge acquired and displayed by the best Jeopardy players," Friedman said. "This could be something important, and we want to be a part of it."
Friedman and other producers first watched Watson in action in December 2009, when it sparred against two other human contestants.
Watson is powered by an IBM POWER7 server, which is optimized to handle the massive number of tasks that Watson must perform at rapid speeds, IBM said. The machine also has a number of proprietary technologies that handle concurrent tasks and data while analyzing information in real time. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2374331,00.asphttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1c7s7-3fXIThere are also a ton more videos about Watson on YT This is the most indepth video I found so far. It describes the algorithm and abilities of the computer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G2H3DZ8rNc
UPDATE 2/15/11+ Show Spoiler [Day 1 Episode] ++ Show Spoiler [Day 2 Episode] ++ Show Spoiler [Day 3 Episode] +Nova special http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyIf5oIjIC8dunno if a full upload to YT is up yet but you can watch on NOVA site here http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/smartest-machine-on-earth.html+ Show Spoiler [Tues Feb 14th] + Watson $5,000 , Ken $2,000, Brad $5,000
WOW Watson $35,734 , Ken $4,800, Brad $10,400
OMG! Watson ?k , Ken?k, Brad ?k
????? OP's post above. Deep Blue did not fairly beat Gary Kasparov, read up on the controversy of that match and you can clearly see that it did not. As for the Jeopardy machine, how can someone ever believe we can beat a computer in a quiz?
I know all about it.
Kasparov claimed that there were grandmasters in the hidden server room inputting their selected moves and then deep blue continued with its brute force methods while putting more weight on the GM's choices.
Regardless, a few years later Kasparov played another iteration of deep blue called deep junior http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junior_(chess)
In 2003 Deep Junior played a 6-game match against Garry Kasparov that resulted in a 3-3 tie. It won a 2006 match with Teimour Radjabov.
People get so defensive about machines/computers besting them. The machine isn't smarter, or more intelligent. It just brute forces a giant knowledge data base and does it really really fast. If humans had access to all that plus our own brains we would win uncontested every time.
Ultimately, that is the point.. For us to say look how much we can do with computers, we can apply these things in other areas and have a better world.
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So Ken Jennings had an epic quote today in his final Jeopardy response "(I for one welcome our new computer overlords)."
+ Show Spoiler + Watson wins with a two day total of over $77,000
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