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Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
July 11 2012 00:58 GMT
#3661
On July 11 2012 09:54 RespectedPuddle wrote:
why do people say to avoid beats by dre and bose? I have bose desktop speakers and i love em


I have only read they are overpriced and overrated in the headphone variety. Non-headphone Bose speakers are not within that focus of criticism.
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20019 Posts
July 11 2012 01:04 GMT
#3662
On July 11 2012 09:58 Alabasern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 09:54 RespectedPuddle wrote:
why do people say to avoid beats by dre and bose? I have bose desktop speakers and i love em


I have only read they are overpriced and overrated in the headphone variety. Non-headphone Bose speakers are not within that focus of criticism.


Correct. And bose speakers generally follow the same pattern. Not that they necessarily sound bad, but you're just paying unnecessary amounts of money for the trendy bose name.

You'll need to provide information on what kind of headphones (in ear, over ear, open/closed, etc) and what kind of sound signature you like (even, bass heavy, etc etc). If you can, try out some headphones in store if you know a place that carries sennheiser, denon, audiotechnics, beyer, grados, etc.
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Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
July 11 2012 06:31 GMT
#3663
Bose headphones are good if what you are looking for is active noise cancellation and comfort. Anything else, look elsewhere.

Similarly, their speakers are pretty decent if what you're looking for is raw noise (not fidelity of any sort), though I imagine you can just get an alternative from JBL. Bose is still what I think of when I hear "acoustic cannon" however.
mathemagician1986
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany549 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 07:10:25
July 11 2012 07:09 GMT
#3664
I have these:

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I ruined my hearing as a teenager riding the bus to school for 2 hours every day, while listening to my maxed out volume iPod. These headphones allow me to listen to quiet music, because they cancel out surrounding noises, so I don't have to turn the volume up so high. I wish I had had them when I was a kid
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 17:56:34
July 11 2012 17:52 GMT
#3665
On July 11 2012 15:31 Womwomwom wrote:
Bose headphones are good if what you are looking for is active noise cancellation and comfort. Anything else, look elsewhere.

Similarly, their speakers are pretty decent if what you're looking for is raw noise (not fidelity of any sort), though I imagine you can just get an alternative from JBL. Bose is still what I think of when I hear "acoustic cannon" however.

although it still stands that other reputable headphone makers also offer active noise cancellation and comfort at a lower price.

i've also listened to a number of bose speakers, including several home theater set ups and my overall impressions remain the same as my thoughts on their headphones: for the same price, you can get such better products; or you can get the same product at a much lower price.

edit: the one good thing i've heard about bose is their quietcomfort 3 headphones (i think it's this pair). apparently, they have completely unmatched comfort, and you can't really even feel the headphones sitting on your head. i've tried them on, and they do seem really really comfortable, and i bet they'd remain just as comfortable after an hour or two. if you're really searching for the ultimate comfort and don't mind paying a big premium for it, then this will be a good idea. just as there are many who would pay a huge premium for small perceived increases in sound quality, i think it'd be reasonable for someone to do the same when seeking more comfort.
RespectedPuddle
Profile Joined July 2011
80 Posts
July 11 2012 23:35 GMT
#3666
On July 11 2012 10:04 decafchicken wrote:

You'll need to provide information on what kind of headphones (in ear, over ear, open/closed, etc) and what kind of sound signature you like (even, bass heavy, etc etc). If you can, try out some headphones in store if you know a place that carries sennheiser, denon, audiotechnics, beyer, grados, etc.


I am looking for over ear headphones, either open or closed, that just sound really good. I've only had a 60$ pair of Skullcandy Hesh, so I don't really know what a good sound signature is. I guess the consensus here is that Bose over ear noise cancelling are over priced, so what is the best alternative for headphones around 250-300$ with the qualities aforementioned? Thanks
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
July 12 2012 05:07 GMT
#3667
On July 12 2012 08:35 RespectedPuddle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 10:04 decafchicken wrote:

You'll need to provide information on what kind of headphones (in ear, over ear, open/closed, etc) and what kind of sound signature you like (even, bass heavy, etc etc). If you can, try out some headphones in store if you know a place that carries sennheiser, denon, audiotechnics, beyer, grados, etc.


I am looking for over ear headphones, either open or closed, that just sound really good. I've only had a 60$ pair of Skullcandy Hesh, so I don't really know what a good sound signature is. I guess the consensus here is that Bose over ear noise cancelling are over priced, so what is the best alternative for headphones around 250-300$ with the qualities aforementioned? Thanks

AKG K550, Denon D2000, Beyer DT880, Hifiman HE300, Sennheiser 598, AKG K701/2
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ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 05:39:47
July 12 2012 05:37 GMT
#3668
On July 12 2012 08:35 RespectedPuddle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 10:04 decafchicken wrote:

You'll need to provide information on what kind of headphones (in ear, over ear, open/closed, etc) and what kind of sound signature you like (even, bass heavy, etc etc). If you can, try out some headphones in store if you know a place that carries sennheiser, denon, audiotechnics, beyer, grados, etc.


I am looking for over ear headphones, either open or closed, that just sound really good. I've only had a 60$ pair of Skullcandy Hesh, so I don't really know what a good sound signature is. I guess the consensus here is that Bose over ear noise cancelling are over priced, so what is the best alternative for headphones around 250-300$ with the qualities aforementioned? Thanks

There's no 'good' sound signature, it depends on what you like. Do you like heavy bass? Or a more balanced signature? Or very prominent mids? In general, the only real 'good' thing you can get with the sound is clarity - in general, the more clear the sound is, the better, but even this is debatable. Most everything else is preference. In general, most people looking to purchase something better than stock earbuds usually prefer a sound signature with a bit of enhanced bass.
What kind of music do you usually listen to?
Where do you intend to use the headphones?
Do you really need active noise cancellation? Or can you get by with louder music and passive noise isolation (headphones block out noise only by acting as a physical thing between your ears and your environment)?
Do you need them to be portable (folds up and/or coiled cable)?

The more info you provide, the better the recommendations we can give.

edit - and how important is comfort? will you be wearing these for hours or just 15-45 minutes?
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
July 12 2012 05:43 GMT
#3669
I use ath m50's, and the sound quality between my ipod and my desktop is very noticeable. Does anyone know how I can get the best out of my hardware?, My motherboard is not terrible, and I also have a decent video card, is there anyway to increase my audio quality?? Am I missing something, or do I actually need to get a seperate sound card.
Question.?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 12 2012 06:03 GMT
#3670
On July 12 2012 14:43 biology]major wrote:
I use ath m50's, and the sound quality between my ipod and my desktop is very noticeable. Does anyone know how I can get the best out of my hardware?, My motherboard is not terrible, and I also have a decent video card, is there anyway to increase my audio quality?? Am I missing something, or do I actually need to get a seperate sound card.

Motherboard not being terrible (in what sense?) doesn't really guarantee anything about the sound quality. In fact, cramming more components on the board and having a higher-end graphics card could cause more problems for the audio quality. There's not much you can do about it if the onboard sound quality sucks, except use something else.

You can probably just get something cheap like a Xonar DG (DGX if you have to use PCIe). Don't bother with anything more expensive than that, at least for internal sound cards; many of them would be worse for headphones anyway, even ignoring price.
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 07:26:25
July 12 2012 07:23 GMT
#3671
Match made in heaven, loving every second of them. Had a pair of HD595's before with X-Fi card on my old computer, but this just really beats those by a wide margin, I would recommend the Asus Xonar Essence ST to anyone the built in amplifier helps alot and obviously the 598's too.

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NeoxInfinite
Profile Joined July 2012
United Kingdom13 Posts
July 12 2012 17:02 GMT
#3672
I mean are there a much difference between cheap and mild expensive ear muffs?
RespectedPuddle
Profile Joined July 2011
80 Posts
July 12 2012 20:26 GMT
#3673
On July 12 2012 14:37 ieatkids5 wrote:

What kind of music do you usually listen to?
Where do you intend to use the headphones?
Do you really need active noise cancellation? Or can you get by with louder music and passive noise isolation (headphones block out noise only by acting as a physical thing between your ears and your environment)?
Do you need them to be portable (folds up and/or coiled cable)?

The more info you provide, the better the recommendations we can give.

edit - and how important is comfort? will you be wearing these for hours or just 15-45 minutes?


- I listen to a lot of electronic/ dance, but also a lot of pop and really some of every genre, im very open minded
- I intend to use them mostly at college, as in the dorm or walking around or at the gym
- I dont need active noise cancellation, but it would be nice
- I don't really need them to be portable. The MOST important thing to me is sound quality and clarity.
-comfort is pretty important, i'll be listening while i study so probaly hours

It seems the consensus is that "sound quality" is a highly subjective notion. I don't even have enough experience to say i like 'mid' or 'highs.' Can anyone give some input on what they find attractive in a 'sound signature?'

And thanks for the reccomendations thus far, i;m looking into all of them.
NeoxInfinite
Profile Joined July 2012
United Kingdom13 Posts
July 12 2012 23:26 GMT
#3674
How long does these last on a use of hours on a daily basis?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/JVC-HA-FX34-BE-Marshmallow-Headphones-Black/dp/B0019CAVY8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1341966051&sr=1-1&tag=tealiq-21
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
July 12 2012 23:30 GMT
#3675
On July 13 2012 08:26 NeoxInfinite wrote:
How long does these last on a use of hours on a daily basis?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/JVC-HA-FX34-BE-Marshmallow-Headphones-Black/dp/B0019CAVY8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1341966051&sr=1-1&tag=tealiq-21

My first pair broke in about a year?

I bought another pair, and they have been good for 2 years now
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 01:56:52
July 13 2012 01:50 GMT
#3676
On July 12 2012 14:43 biology]major wrote:
I use ath m50's, and the sound quality between my ipod and my desktop is very noticeable. Does anyone know how I can get the best out of my hardware?, My motherboard is not terrible, and I also have a decent video card, is there anyway to increase my audio quality?? Am I missing something, or do I actually need to get a seperate sound card.

Before you try anything else, you could see if your computer has certain settings affecting your audio quality. One of my friends was experiencing heavy muddled-up bass on his headphones that were supposed to be very balanced. Turns out he had to change some stuff in his audio settings to get the sound right (he had checked stuff like enhanced bass and some audio room correction thing).

On July 13 2012 05:26 RespectedPuddle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 14:37 ieatkids5 wrote:

What kind of music do you usually listen to?
Where do you intend to use the headphones?
Do you really need active noise cancellation? Or can you get by with louder music and passive noise isolation (headphones block out noise only by acting as a physical thing between your ears and your environment)?
Do you need them to be portable (folds up and/or coiled cable)?

The more info you provide, the better the recommendations we can give.

edit - and how important is comfort? will you be wearing these for hours or just 15-45 minutes?


- I listen to a lot of electronic/ dance, but also a lot of pop and really some of every genre, im very open minded
- I intend to use them mostly at college, as in the dorm or walking around or at the gym
- I dont need active noise cancellation, but it would be nice
- I don't really need them to be portable. The MOST important thing to me is sound quality and clarity.
-comfort is pretty important, i'll be listening while i study so probaly hours

It seems the consensus is that "sound quality" is a highly subjective notion. I don't even have enough experience to say i like 'mid' or 'highs.' Can anyone give some input on what they find attractive in a 'sound signature?'

And thanks for the reccomendations thus far, i;m looking into all of them.

Best advice I can give you now is to read this article on active noise cancelling headphones:
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/comparative-review-high-end-noise-canceling-headphones
It's also good for you because it includes a section reviewing a number of ANC headphones, including pictures and prices. If you decide to get ANC, I'd say read through the reviews thoroughly and pick one that suits your taste. It does a great job highlighting the pros and cons of each headphone. Judging from the article, I think you'll like the Bose Quiet Comfort 15 the most.

edit - the most basic thing you'll need to know about a particular headphone's sound signature is its frequency response. Not the range (like 20-20000 hertz or whatever), but how much it puts out at each frequency. For example, some headphones are considered bass-heavy, so they put out a lot more low-frequency sounds relative to middle and high frequency sounds. Personally, I prefer a sound signature that is very flat or 'balanced', meaning that the headphones put out about the same amount of each frequency (as perceived by one's ear). I listen to a lot of music that is focused on female vocals, so I don't want the bass to overpower the vocals. When I listen to dubstep though, I like to use my basshead headphones.
NeoxInfinite
Profile Joined July 2012
United Kingdom13 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 13:36:57
July 13 2012 11:53 GMT
#3677
On July 13 2012 08:30 JSH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 08:26 NeoxInfinite wrote:
How long does these last on a use of hours on a daily basis?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/JVC-HA-FX34-BE-Marshmallow-Headphones-Black/dp/B0019CAVY8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1341966051&sr=1-1&tag=tealiq-21

My first pair broke in about a year?

I bought another pair, and they have been good for 2 years now


How does your 2nd pair last for 1+ year longer? Did you do something to break the first?

LAST QUESTION : ! Does the slightly more expensive ones last longer? Or is it just same length of lasting but just better noise isolation?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Edit: I found new ones

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Creative-EP-630-Noise-Isolating-Earphones/dp/B0009G6FQI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1342185554&sr=1-1

or

http://www.amazon.co.uk/JVC-HAFX1X-Xtreme-Xplosives-Headphones/dp/B004S7Q8CA/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Are these much better? It got many more good reviews and do they last longer? They seem more trustable than the other marshmallows I linked

and as said daily use of like 7 hours +

I need to find something which blocks like speakers music. I think these 2 I linked are going to be the ones which I decide!

Nallen
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom134 Posts
July 13 2012 13:39 GMT
#3678
I'm strongly considering a pair of GR10s based on reviews. Does anyone have experience with them or opinions about Grado?

Many thanks for any input
uriel-
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
July 13 2012 16:22 GMT
#3679
On July 13 2012 22:39 Nallen wrote:
I'm strongly considering a pair of GR10s based on reviews. Does anyone have experience with them or opinions about Grado?

Many thanks for any input



I don't have the GR10s exactly, but reviews suggest it's extremely similar in signature to the Ortofon e-Q5/e-Q7s. In which case they will be excellent...but I'll suggest just going for the Ortofons instead =D
Nallen
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom134 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 17:44:49
July 13 2012 17:44 GMT
#3680
On July 14 2012 01:22 uriel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 22:39 Nallen wrote:
I'm strongly considering a pair of GR10s based on reviews. Does anyone have experience with them or opinions about Grado?

Many thanks for any input



I don't have the GR10s exactly, but reviews suggest it's extremely similar in signature to the Ortofon e-Q5/e-Q7s. In which case they will be excellent...but I'll suggest just going for the Ortofons instead =D

I can't find the e-Q7s, do you know if they're end of line or something? They look good by the way, thanks for the tip.
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