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Galois
United States124 Posts
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Scaramanga
Australia8093 Posts
On August 01 2010 12:43 UniversalSnip wrote: The way I view it A) legality is irrelevant. Most people here seem to agree on this. B) there's no 'fault' worth apportioning. It happened, nobody had any malicious intent, and the harm is negligible. Doesn't matter if it's the cashier's fault or not. That shouldn't affect your view of the event and it shouldn't alter your decision on the point below C) the real question is what you should do now. To my mind, the moral action is to optimize the benefit of everyone. At this point, explaining the issue and paying them is probably going to introduce more net hassle into the system than pleasure/profit. So I would say the most moral course of action is to eat the melon, and enjoy it. (On the other hand, if you'd just left the counter when you discovered the mistake, ideally you would go back and give them some money.) Really? Its so hard to go back and say, hey i didnt get charged for this the other day, i realised when i got home, heres 3 dollars | ||
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dt.Retorik
United States11 Posts
who cares anyway: | ||
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Galois
United States124 Posts
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uberdeluxe
Canada306 Posts
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exeexe
Denmark937 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On August 01 2010 12:49 Scaramanga wrote: Really? Its so hard to go back and say, hey i didnt get charged for this the other day, i realised when i got home, heres 3 dollars Well, I think it wouldn't give much pleasure to either person to do that unless you got the same cashier. I also wouldn't go back to the store and get/cut in line specifically to do that. | ||
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
On August 01 2010 12:42 Nemesis wrote: Yes it is still stealing, but in this case it is not, as the person who took it without paying did not intend to do it. well who is it to judge whether the person who took it without playing is with intention or not..:/ | ||
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dt.Retorik
United States11 Posts
On August 01 2010 13:04 Katsuge wrote: A jury of the alleged offender's peers?well who is it to judge whether the person who took it without playing is with intention or not..:/ | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9109 Posts
On August 01 2010 11:31 illu wrote: does my action constitute theft? no | ||
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
Actually, that could be all wrong since I studied torts ages ago  | ||
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hzab
United States3 Posts
The next time you are at that grocery store and find you were overcharged for something that was on sale, or forgot a coupon and paid full price, just remember that watermelon and let it pass. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20160 Posts
And it could take place in a court room! In front of a judge! | ||
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
On August 01 2010 11:31 illu wrote: A while ago I went to a certain unnamed grocery store. I mostly wanted to buy their 15lb avg seedless watermelon for $2.99 each. Of course, I also bought a few extra things and ended up spending about 15 dollars. Because I had quite a few things to carry, I didn't check the receipt carefully until I got on the bus. Then I realized that the cashier forgot to scan the watermelon so I practically took it for free (by accident!). YUM YUM. Free watermelon aside, I want to ask a more serious question. That is, assuming for the moment that I have no intention of going back to the grocery store to give them three dollars (or return the watermelon) in the foreseeable future, does my action constitute theft? + Show Spoiler + Here's my own opinion. I am not a lawyer nor in training for law, so don't bash me too hard for this. I think this may constitute theft. Theft is usually defined as an act that deprives one's property as well as mens rea. In this case I did take an watermelon without paying. Also, assuming that I have no intention of going back to the grocery store to return the item after I learn that the cashier did not scan it, I am knowingly keeping it by fraudulent means since I did not pay for it. My major concern is whether or not the cashier's mistake is meaningful at all in this incident. Just saw your edit with the spoiler so I thought I'd respond further (and I am a criminal lawyer and have been practicing here in Aus for three years): You're pretty much spot on. A criminal offence is the combination of actus reus and mens rea (action with criminal intent). Specifically, theft is a dishonest appropriation with an intention to permanently deprive the owner of the good. An appropriation can be constituted by taking it, by using it in any fashion as if you were the owner and so forth (appropriation is widely defined and I wont go over it all here). In this instance, you did not commit a theft when you took the item home by accident without paying as you did not at that time possess the mens rea for the offence. That is the extent to which the cashier's mistake vitiates your responsibility. However upon realising the error of the store worker, you make the choice to exercise control (rights of an owner) over the item and keep it (thus making a dishonest appropriation with the intention of permanently depriving the store of the item). It is at that time that you commit the theft. But, like I said earlier and like many others have said.. who cares at this point  | ||
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FindingPride
United States1001 Posts
But the intelligent person in you says, i could use that fucking $. | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On August 01 2010 12:26 Cambium wrote: It's probably "theft" by definition, but who the fuck cares? Just eat the damn thing already, or ship it to me. A fucking small-ass watermelon here costs like 15$ LOL hahahah fukcing japanese watermelons actually just everything in japan is so damn expensive. | ||
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Irrelevant
United States2364 Posts
Back when I was in to trading cards I once bought 3 cases, and the cashier scanned one of them twice, then went back to delete it and deleted more than she should of so I ended up getting 3 cases for the price of one, not sure of she didn't notice the 300-400$ different in pricing. | ||
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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
On August 01 2010 11:35 Aukai wrote: Can't you just eat the god damn watermelon? I'm thinking this too. | ||
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Zealotdriver
United States1557 Posts
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