That has a lot more to do with my hatred of that store/my boss, than anything though.
I don't feel too bad about it.
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
That has a lot more to do with my hatred of that store/my boss, than anything though. I don't feel too bad about it. | ||
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Half
United States2554 Posts
On August 04 2010 02:43 AyJay wrote: I'd think this way: At least I'm not Bobby Kotick Yeah he doesn't steal things :/. | ||
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Spinaldash
United States17 Posts
On August 01 2010 11:58 dignity wrote: Watermelon is a much sought out delicacy in some parts of the world. You should be ashamed of yourself. | ||
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Tdelamay
Canada548 Posts
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illu
Canada2531 Posts
On August 07 2010 08:43 Tdelamay wrote: Whoa, 3$? Watermelon are 6$ here ;_; Where do you live...? On August 07 2010 03:31 Comeh wrote: As a grocery bagger, there have been times that i have noticed something staying in the cart and not getting scanned, or something missing being scanned, and i let it go anyways. That has a lot more to do with my hatred of that store/my boss, than anything though. I don't feel too bad about it. Be careful. Your boss COULD be on Teamliquid. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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illu
Canada2531 Posts
On August 07 2010 12:55 Kenpachi wrote: are people still discussing the watermelon crisis? I am interested in the price of watermelons right now ![]() | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On August 07 2010 02:58 dogabutila wrote: Few issues here. 1) That watermelon is now shrinkage. This encompasses cashier error, as well as outright theft. It basically any non-legitimate loss. (ie. didnt sell all the milk we stocked before it went out of date). 2) Why the hell did you not put the watermelon on the belt? It's not too heavy right? Cause you got it into your car, and into your house and onto the cutting board..... don't be lazy. 3) If you were going to be lazy, did you inform the cashier that you had a watermelon in your cart? If you did not, then why not? Just forgot? 4) Why did the cashier not put the items in your cart? He obviously would have seen the watermelon then. At our store, cashiers check and put the bags on the back of the register until you finish clearing out the cart. When you are done with the cart they put the stuff they check currently into the cart. Discretion to the cashier if they also want to put the stuff on the back of the register into the cart as well. Point is, the cashier should have checked your cart. Perhaps if this is not how your local grocery store does things // policy then w/e. However, speaking from both a LE-track perspective and a customer service rep (@ a grocery store no less) perspective, mistakes happen. This isn't more YOUR mistake or more THE CASHIERS mistake. Just a series of events that needed both people to do or not do certain things for the event to come out this way. Customer service isn't going to bother you for 3 dollars if you come back in for it, unless you really really want to pay for it to make yourself feel better. They will just tell you to put the watermelon up on the belt next time. Or tell the cashier about it. After you leave they might give the cashier a little bit of a hard time for not checking the cart. Legally, it is technically theft. However, the grocery store will never press charges. Not for a $3.88 watermelon. Even a police officer standing in the store watching you check out would not know if the cashier keyed it in or not without checking your receipt which he has no legal right to do (but funnily enough, store security could...). Everybody saying mens rea is not fulfilled is stupid. Mens Rea is not required for all types of crimes, nor for all situations for other crimes. Further, one could argue that not putting the watermelon on the belt and not informing the cashier is willful negligence. Then lastly, when one discovers the mistake and takes no actions to make it right, this is also the guilty mind. Basically, you do not have to have to think "I AM GOING TO STEAL THIS WATERMELON". It is possible to fulfill mens rea by deciding "I will not put this up on the belt, i'll just let him know about it", and then not letting him know about it due to just forgetting. Mens Rea is also fulfilled the instant you decide not to take corrective actions. Show nested quote + On August 04 2010 02:24 DefMatrixUltra wrote: Turn the story around for a different perspective on the same problem. If the cashier accidentally charged you twice for some item, is that theft? I think what you did is fine/acceptable. A mistake was made, and there was no malicious intent. Actually, yes it is. This is why if you can demonstrate it to customer service they will speedily give you a refund. thank god someone who actually knows what they're talking about posted in a thread like this! i hate it so much when a bunch of people who think they know how anything works posts when they have no idea and base it around their own system of what they think is right as if it was the law or something i mean everyone can share their opinion, but when the op specifically asks what does the law say i look through the whole thread eagerly awaiting a post like this! thank you | ||
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dogabutila
United States1438 Posts
On August 07 2010 15:45 Divinek wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 02:58 dogabutila wrote: Few issues here. 1) That watermelon is now shrinkage. This encompasses cashier error, as well as outright theft. It basically any non-legitimate loss. (ie. didnt sell all the milk we stocked before it went out of date). 2) Why the hell did you not put the watermelon on the belt? It's not too heavy right? Cause you got it into your car, and into your house and onto the cutting board..... don't be lazy. 3) If you were going to be lazy, did you inform the cashier that you had a watermelon in your cart? If you did not, then why not? Just forgot? 4) Why did the cashier not put the items in your cart? He obviously would have seen the watermelon then. At our store, cashiers check and put the bags on the back of the register until you finish clearing out the cart. When you are done with the cart they put the stuff they check currently into the cart. Discretion to the cashier if they also want to put the stuff on the back of the register into the cart as well. Point is, the cashier should have checked your cart. Perhaps if this is not how your local grocery store does things // policy then w/e. However, speaking from both a LE-track perspective and a customer service rep (@ a grocery store no less) perspective, mistakes happen. This isn't more YOUR mistake or more THE CASHIERS mistake. Just a series of events that needed both people to do or not do certain things for the event to come out this way. Customer service isn't going to bother you for 3 dollars if you come back in for it, unless you really really want to pay for it to make yourself feel better. They will just tell you to put the watermelon up on the belt next time. Or tell the cashier about it. After you leave they might give the cashier a little bit of a hard time for not checking the cart. Legally, it is technically theft. However, the grocery store will never press charges. Not for a $3.88 watermelon. Even a police officer standing in the store watching you check out would not know if the cashier keyed it in or not without checking your receipt which he has no legal right to do (but funnily enough, store security could...). Everybody saying mens rea is not fulfilled is stupid. Mens Rea is not required for all types of crimes, nor for all situations for other crimes. Further, one could argue that not putting the watermelon on the belt and not informing the cashier is willful negligence. Then lastly, when one discovers the mistake and takes no actions to make it right, this is also the guilty mind. Basically, you do not have to have to think "I AM GOING TO STEAL THIS WATERMELON". It is possible to fulfill mens rea by deciding "I will not put this up on the belt, i'll just let him know about it", and then not letting him know about it due to just forgetting. Mens Rea is also fulfilled the instant you decide not to take corrective actions. On August 04 2010 02:24 DefMatrixUltra wrote: Turn the story around for a different perspective on the same problem. If the cashier accidentally charged you twice for some item, is that theft? I think what you did is fine/acceptable. A mistake was made, and there was no malicious intent. Actually, yes it is. This is why if you can demonstrate it to customer service they will speedily give you a refund. thank god someone who actually knows what they're talking about posted in a thread like this! i hate it so much when a bunch of people who think they know how anything works posts when they have no idea and base it around their own system of what they think is right as if it was the law or something i mean everyone can share their opinion, but when the op specifically asks what does the law say i look through the whole thread eagerly awaiting a post like this! thank you No prob. I was just gonna pass it over, cause....well, its not really a big deal. But I saw so much random crap being thrown around I just thought I'd write a little bit to correct some of the people. And then a little bit turned into an essay :-/. I do have to note that this is for US law only. I'm not sure how it applies in canada. As demonstrated by some german guy earlier, its different in different parts of the world. | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
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NotGood-
United States134 Posts
EDIT: If you failed to put it on the belt, you fucked up. I thought op would of put it on the belt and the cashier just scanned 2 when theres 3 ect ect. | ||
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LolnoobInsanity
United States183 Posts
You shouldn't be punished in any way for their mistake. Sure going back and paying for it would constitute what the greater part of society considers a "good deed" but good deeds are not required by law. | ||
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illu
Canada2531 Posts
On September 14 2010 06:37 NotGood- wrote: It isnt theft if they dont charge you for it. Its the emplyee's/stores own damn fault. They may have the legal right to bill you for the watermelon (or anything or that matter) but you had no intention of stealing when checking out. Just claim ignorance, and their isnt shit a cop can do. EDIT: If you failed to put it on the belt, you fucked up. I thought op would of put it on the belt and the cashier just scanned 2 when theres 3 ect ect. It was on the belt. It went through the scanner, too. It was probably not positioned correctly so the scanner did not recognize it. | ||
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SilentCrono
United States1420 Posts
totally accidental lol. | ||
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pred470r
Bulgaria3265 Posts
Seriously tho I don't return free stuff like that, and don't have any remorse about it, and I don't think you should regret it either. | ||
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
All I have to say on this issue has already been stated in the topic, so now my question is: What did you decide to do? Did you return to the store and apologize? | ||
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NotGood-
United States134 Posts
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