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illu
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FlopTurnReaver
Switzerland1980 Posts
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
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Coolzx
United States138 Posts
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Emon_
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
You sir are a good person for making a thread about this and discussing this and would be willingly to go back and pay them back if you really thought it was theft (didn't read most of post so I skipped all pages :p). This also happened to me. I bought a pack of Red bull when I did my groceries and it costs about 5 euro's (don't know exact price). Normally I don't watch the receipt but when I payed I just took the receipt and went home. When I was at home I saw the cashier priced 2 times my Red bull :@ so I payed double the price for 1 amount. Ofcourse I went like, im not bothering a 15 min walk back but I'm pissed I payed too much. Then the 2nd time. I bought some stuff for my groceries which I do every few days. I payed and went home and then checked receipt cuz I saw I had waaay too much money for things I buy every few days. There I saw that there were multiple items not scanned so I got them for free but were over 5 euro's (about 6.5 dollars?). And funny part is that it was done by the same cashier (who I don't know btw). Karma ? :p | ||
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Ramsing
Canada233 Posts
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illu
Canada2531 Posts
On August 02 2010 18:58 Coolzx wrote: QUICKLY! Some one call the FBI The FBI has no jurisdiction on me  On August 02 2010 12:05 FlopTurnReaver wrote: I hardly ever check the receipt :/ Start doing it now and you will be wonderfully surprised. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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domane
Canada1606 Posts
On August 01 2010 11:39 illu wrote: I am only interested in legal aspects right now. For example, what if the unscanned item was not a 3 dollar watermelon, but something that is worth $30,000? On August 01 2010 11:50 The_Pacifist wrote: Accidental theft is still theft. Even if it's accidental. Hence, accidental "theft." How much more innocent is involuntary manslaughter compared to premeditated murder? I don't know. But in both cases, someone dies. How much more innocent is accidental theft to good ol' fashioned five finger discounts? I don't know. But either way, someone gets a watermelon from the store without paying the cashier. I do think, though, that what really matters is what the person does after realizing the accident that determines wrong or right. EDIT: I will admit, though... If it were me, I'd be like, "Well, it's just a 3 dollar watermelon. I mean, come on. They probably don't really mind it, wouldn't really care that much if I come back to pay for it, and I really don't want to drive all the way back there." Yeah, I know. I'm terrible. But at least I'm honest, too. Yes. If you knowingly refuse to return the watermelon, it is theft. However, I think you should take into account, the effort involved in returning the item. You would have had to get off the bus, ride another bus back to the store, ride a third bus back home, and spend possibly an hour of your time (and maybe money for another fare) for a cashier's mistake. Even if you told your story to the police, they wouldn't charge you with a crime, so I would rest easy. | ||
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RedTerror
New Zealand742 Posts
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PauL_JoneS
United States373 Posts
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FortuneSyn
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On August 03 2010 08:10 RedTerror wrote: You took something without paying for it, they didn't intentionally give it to you for free so in my book it is technically theft. Well actually there is mental culpability to account for here. To steal something you have to intentionally or knowingly want to deprive someone of its value to count as theft. If the cashier had made an error and he had never checked the reciept than he could never really be charged for Theft in reality because he never INTENDED to steal the object...the cashier simply made a mistake. Whether or not this changes after he checked the reciept is up to a bit more debate. I personally think that this depends on the value of the object itself if it's after the fact like this. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
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Darkn3ss
United States717 Posts
On August 01 2010 11:35 Malgrif wrote: get a hint, she wanted to see you again bro. grats on the watermelon they are relaly yummy Awesome! So we have a thief AND a pedophile on our hands! XD | ||
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illu
Canada2531 Posts
On August 03 2010 08:52 Darkn3ss wrote: Awesome! So we have a thief AND a pedophile on our hands! XD Why is there an assumption that the cashier is underaged? She is in her 20s. | ||
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Darkn3ss
United States717 Posts
On August 03 2010 11:01 illu wrote: Why is there an assumption that the cashier is underaged? She is in her 20s. No, I actually pictured an old lady that tried to lure you back with a "free" watermelon! LOL | ||
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ZCfos~DangerBoy
57 Posts
You made a contract with the cashier of one watermelon for the price of 2.99. The cashier made a contract with you containing one watermelon for free. (practically a gift, but not quite) With that said, there was never a contract both parties agreed to beforehand making the contract in itself void ("Offer and agreement have to be the same"). However the melon still became your property the moment you left the store ( §929.1 BGB "german law"). Since you got an "advantage" out of the cashiers mistake, you have to either pay the price of the melon, or give the melon back to the store (§818 BGB i.V.m §812 I, §433 BGB). However this error has to be made apparent by the party that got "disadvantegeous". Otherwise its just assumed that the (void) contract is tolerated and the cashier was allowed (by the store owner) to agree to a price differing from the pricetag. (If you buy something in the store, you make the offer and the cashier agrees. The pricetag is only an "invitatio ad offerendum". [You could say, that you made the offer of one melon for free and the clerk agreed. But this would be bad for your credibillity.]) So, in short, if they want the money, they are going to tell you. Otherwise you dont need to care about it. Most of the time a cashier might make the mistake of scanning something twice so you are probably in the green anyways. Oh, and if you tell the store owner your story, it might give him the right to fire the clerk and you dont want someone to lose a job because of this right? | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
If I was you, and had a guilty conscious about it, I would just call up the store and report it to the manager. Make it seem like you are mostly just doing customer feedback on the cashier (did you catch the name?), the manager will tell you if you should come back and pay for it, or if your information is worth the loss. | ||
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