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kzn
United States1218 Posts
On July 21 2010 17:06 dybydx wrote: 2. There is WMD in Iraq Just to be pedantic, you realize that the the only claim that actually matters is that there were, and until you start specifying specific sections of time it is patently true that there were, right? | ||
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angelicfolly
United States292 Posts
On July 21 2010 17:06 dybydx wrote: dats the irony to it. the daily show pride itself as a comedy show delivering fake news, yet they are doing a better job a providing facts than their "leading competitor" - FoxNews. a good number of FoxNews viewers still believe that... 1. Saddam has ties to Al Qaeda 2. There is WMD in Iraq 3. Obama was not born in the USA. [O RLY????] and more... I can play this game too, if you want... But I tend to stick to BACK UP MY POINTS, if you know what I mean. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
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Ahseyo
Sweden80 Posts
On July 21 2010 17:38 annul wrote: just snipe their ghost academy This is the best damn reply I've read for a while | ||
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blomsterjohn
Norway475 Posts
There is one video Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, must be praying never gets posted on YouTube with English subtitles. To date, the 10-minute segment has been broadcast only in Hebrew on Israel’s Channel 10. Its contents, however, threaten to gravely embarrass not only Netanyahu but also the US administration of Barack Obama. The film was shot, apparently without Netanyahu’s knowledge, nine years ago, when the government of Ariel Sharon had started reinvading the main cities of the West Bank to crush Palestinian resistance in the early stages of the second intifada. from: http://www.counterpunch.org/cook07192010.html | ||
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dybydx
Canada1764 Posts
On July 21 2010 17:10 angelicfolly wrote: I can play this game too, if you want... But I tend to stick to BACK UP MY POINTS, if you know what I mean. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_daily_show#Reception http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel_controversies | ||
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angelicfolly
United States292 Posts
On July 21 2010 18:14 dybydx wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_daily_show#Reception http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel_controversies ??? This is NOT what was asked of you. Giving me a wiki page without any indication that the information is on there, is lazy, and shows you really don't know what your talking about. Which is futher componded by this little statment in the wiki to several of those points I had to find myself. PIPA issued a clarification on October 17, 2003, stating that "The findings were not meant to and cannot be used as a basis for making broad judgments about the general accuracy of the reporting of various networks or the general accuracy of the beliefs of those who get their news from those networks. Only a substantially more comprehensive study could undertake such broad research questions," and that the results of the poll show correlation, but do not prove causation Also while you're at it, read up on that little section. I don't know why you linked me to a wiki article about the Daily Show, because like posted above the audience is irrelevant here. My point also still stands about the actual purpose of the show. [ | ||
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sOvrn
United States678 Posts
On June 13 2010 02:08 Monst3r wrote: Why would Saudi Arabia do such a thing. B/c Saudi Arabia is Sunni Muslim and Iran is Shiite. Saudi Arabia and Iran are the two major powers in the middle east and the decline of one would mean the rise of the other. | ||
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Ichabod
United States1659 Posts
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ImFromPortugal
Portugal1368 Posts
On July 21 2010 18:54 Sultan.P wrote: B/c Saudi Arabia is Sunni Muslim and Iran is Shiite. Saudi Arabia and Iran are the two major powers in the middle east and the decline of one would mean the rise of the other. Wrong, they are good allies with the Americans  OIL OIL OIL OIL and More OIL | ||
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muse5187
1125 Posts
On July 22 2010 02:21 ImFromPortugal wrote: Wrong, they are good allies with the Americans http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sqPDdk5XCg OIL OIL OIL OIL and More OIL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1yb2AwQJG8&feature=related Iran is good allies with usa? cool story bro edit:spoiler | ||
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tollz
United States17 Posts
Not North Korea but Iran sure is. How many wars has Iran started and how many has America started? Eh forgive me if i wrong but the only war America actually started was the Revolutionary War, and the Mexican American War, which was mostly about land. Spanish American war = Was started because the Spanish sank the USS Maine WW1 = America got involved because of the sinking of the USS Lusitania WW2 = Pearl Harbor, need i say more. Korea = America entered to suport democracy in South Korea. (never actually declared a war) Vietnam = America entered to support Democracy once again. (never actually declared a war) Desert Storm (First war in Iraq) = Saddams hooligans were stealing all kuwaits shit, thats about it. Afganistan/Iraq = 9/11, as a member of the military, I'm saying this, not sure if we should be there or not but i support everyone who goes over because I myself have a 7 month tour under my belt and know what its like. and lets face it.. Saddam was an utter piece of shit and deserves every bit he got. | ||
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angelicfolly
United States292 Posts
On July 22 2010 03:06 tollz wrote: Eh forgive me if i wrong but the only war America actually started was the Revolutionary War, and the Mexican American War, which was mostly about land. Spanish American war = Was started because the Spanish sank the USS Maine WW1 = America got involved because of the sinking of the USS Lusitania WW2 = Pearl Harbor, need i say more. Korea = America entered to suport democracy in South Korea. (never actually declared a war) Vietnam = America entered to support Democracy once again. (never actually declared a war) Desert Storm (First war in Iraq) = Saddams hooligans were stealing all kuwaits shit, thats about it. Afganistan/Iraq = 9/11, as a member of the military, I'm saying this, not sure if we should be there or not but i support everyone who goes over because I myself have a 7 month tour under my belt and know what its like. and lets face it.. Saddam was an utter piece of shit and deserves every bit he got. Sad to say, But Iraq was started by us. I do believe intentions where good, but we still started that war. | ||
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ImFromPortugal
Portugal1368 Posts
On July 22 2010 02:32 muse5187 wrote: + Show Spoiler + On July 22 2010 02:21 ImFromPortugal wrote: Wrong, they are good allies with the Americans http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sqPDdk5XCg OIL OIL OIL OIL and More OIL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1yb2AwQJG8&feature=related Iran is good allies with usa? cool story bro edit:spoiler ??? Saudi Arabia is good ally with USA ... why are you talking about Iran? | ||
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ImFromPortugal
Portugal1368 Posts
On July 22 2010 03:06 tollz wrote: Eh forgive me if i wrong but the only war America actually started was the Revolutionary War, and the Mexican American War, which was mostly about land. Spanish American war = Was started because the Spanish sank the USS Maine WW1 = America got involved because of the sinking of the USS Lusitania WW2 = Pearl Harbor, need i say more. Korea = America entered to suport democracy in South Korea. (never actually declared a war) Vietnam = America entered to support Democracy once again. (never actually declared a war) Desert Storm (First war in Iraq) = Saddams hooligans were stealing all kuwaits shit, thats about it. Afganistan/Iraq = 9/11, as a member of the military, I'm saying this, not sure if we should be there or not but i support everyone who goes over because I myself have a 7 month tour under my belt and know what its like. and lets face it.. Saddam was an utter piece of shit and deserves every bit he got. So kuwaits "shit" is your shit ?LOL what Iraq had to do with 911? And lets not forget the sponsored coupes and overthrowing of elected governments in south America, and the proxy wars in África ex: Angola. | ||
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Kalpman
Sweden406 Posts
On July 22 2010 03:09 angelicfolly wrote: Sad to say, But Iraq was started by us. I do believe intentions where good, but we still started that war. And also, Saddam was not the one paying for what he had done, the people of Iraq was. Sure, he deserved to get brought to justice like he was, but all of the innocent people killed in Iraq can never EVER be justified. | ||
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tollz
United States17 Posts
And also, Saddam was not the one paying for what he had done, the people of Iraq was. Sure, he deserved to get brought to justice like he was, but all of the innocent people killed in Iraq can never EVER be justified. Are you saying the innocents that were killed by Saddam or the innocents killed by US Troops? Because you have no clue how scary it is to be on patrol in Iraq not knowing who is who, War is fuckin terrible and causes the deaths of many innocents either purposely or not. Ex: I was on post manning a checkpoint and this women came running at us screaming and we could see something under her robe or dress w/e they call them, it was bulging out We gave warnings, and followed our SOP. my finger was on the trigger and i was shaking.. at the last second and i mean the LAST second she pulls her baby out of her robes, if she had done that maybe 5 seconds later we would have killed a child and mother... thats every day shit over there. It's a different war over there than we're used to. We have no idea who's on our side and who isn't. and thats the main problem. But then again, I'm just a dumb grunt. | ||
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kzn
United States1218 Posts
On July 22 2010 03:21 Kalpman wrote: And also, Saddam was not the one paying for what he had done, the people of Iraq was. Sure, he deserved to get brought to justice like he was, but all of the innocent people killed in Iraq can never EVER be justified. There is no such thing as an innocent person. | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On July 22 2010 03:06 tollz wrote: Eh forgive me if i wrong but the only war America actually started was the Revolutionary War, and the Mexican American War, which was mostly about land. Spanish American war = Was started because the Spanish sank the USS Maine WW1 = America got involved because of the sinking of the USS Lusitania WW2 = Pearl Harbor, need i say more. Korea = America entered to suport democracy in South Korea. (never actually declared a war) Vietnam = America entered to support Democracy once again. (never actually declared a war) Desert Storm (First war in Iraq) = Saddams hooligans were stealing all kuwaits shit, thats about it. Afganistan/Iraq = 9/11, as a member of the military, I'm saying this, not sure if we should be there or not but i support everyone who goes over because I myself have a 7 month tour under my belt and know what its like. and lets face it.. Saddam was an utter piece of shit and deserves every bit he got. You're missing a few wars/points there. 1812: Not started by the US Spanish American War: Was started actually because US has been offering support to revolting colonies and encouraging areas to revolt. WW1: Not started by the US. However, US involvement was heavily in favored for the Allied side previous to the sinking of the Lusitania. WW2: Similar, though Pearl Harbor occurred due to US cutting off Japan's demands for oil, etc. However, both WW's, US involvement was IMO justified. Korean War: Not started by the US as I believe NK invaded SK first. Vietnam: Started by the US. Desert Storm: US actually gave support to Saddam as Kuwait was actually siphoning Iraqi oil. It was only after we realized that giving Saddam Kuwait would lead to Iraq being too strong in the Middle East when we did a 180. Afgan/Iraq: Speaks for itself. You covered the Mexican War and the Revolution. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
By the way, we did provoke the War of 1812. Get your US History straight. | ||
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