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Wayra
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
195 Posts
August 15 2010 01:21 GMT
#581
I see a timing window...
Blanke
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada180 Posts
August 15 2010 05:25 GMT
#582
On August 15 2010 10:14 Jackafur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2010 02:15 Zionner wrote:
I have a bad feeling some serious shit is going to go down soon


web bot predicted world war 3 on November 15th of this year. My birthday is the 16th. I'm not saying the web bot is all knowing or anything. Just food for thought.


If wikipedia is correct, I believe Webbot said, "a major tipping point that's U.S. centric, possibly the beginning of WWIII or the collapse of the US dollar" from Nov. 8-11th, 2010. (No war between Israel and Iran until at least November as well, it claims.)

The page also says that on Dec. 14th, 2010 the first nuclear missile will be launched. Where does webbot get this from? I'm not entirely sure, and it could easily be a load of bollocks, but after watching the following video predicting economic downfall in the US, I'm beginning to think Webbot has merit.

Wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webbot

Video I mentioned in my post:
We avoid risks in life to arrive safely at death.
Blanke
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada180 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-17 19:04:28
August 17 2010 19:03 GMT
#583
Please pardon the double post, but shit just got real:


Israel has a very small timing window to attack Iran before the fuel rods reach their reactors. Attacking afterwards would essentially create a Chernobyl: Reloaded scenario, with global repercussions. (The radiation could reach India!) What will come of this? We must wait and see!
We avoid risks in life to arrive safely at death.
Nyx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Rwanda460 Posts
August 17 2010 19:05 GMT
#584
On August 18 2010 04:03 Blanke wrote:
Please pardon the double post, but shit just got real

Israel has a very small timing window to attack Iran before the fuel rods reach their reactors. Attacking afterwards would essentially create a Chernobyl: Reloaded scenario, with global repercussions. (The radiation could reach India!) What will come of this? We must wait and see!


This sounds like the plot to one of the terrible new C&C games.
Blanke
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada180 Posts
August 17 2010 19:11 GMT
#585
On August 18 2010 04:05 Nyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2010 04:03 Blanke wrote:
Please pardon the double post, but shit just got real

Israel has a very small timing window to attack Iran before the fuel rods reach their reactors. Attacking afterwards would essentially create a Chernobyl: Reloaded scenario, with global repercussions. (The radiation could reach India!) What will come of this? We must wait and see!


This sounds like the plot to one of the terrible new C&C games.


Uh, sorry I'm not familiar with the latest C&C game.

One of the reporters mentioned how the media will explode over this on Saturday, when the rods are finally in place. I have to agree, Iran hasn't been occupying the mainstream media scene lately, but this will likely be capitalized on to stir up controversy. Obama and Netanyahu publicly stated they wish to achieve a, "robust peace in the Middle East." Robust is a very disconcerting word to me. I'm convinced that within the coming months, we'll be seeing war in Iran.
We avoid risks in life to arrive safely at death.
TwoPac
Profile Joined October 2009
United States163 Posts
August 18 2010 05:50 GMT
#586
On June 13 2010 02:53 Dozle wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 13 2010 02:35 SpartiK1S wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2010 02:22 Monst3r wrote:
On June 13 2010 02:15 zer0das wrote:
On June 13 2010 02:08 Monst3r wrote:
Why would Saudi Arabia do such a thing.


Probably because Iran is a huge threat to the stability of their government... monarchy vs revolution. And whole region even. Nukes in the hands of Iran probably make them just as nervous as Israel.


If America has nukes, every single country in the world deserves nukes too.


wait wait wait, what the FU$%?

"If America has nukes, EVERYONE GETS NUKES"?????

You are either a teenager that doesn't understand world politics, or else a , god i can't say it without it getting deleted. What you are suggesting is the equivalent of giving a DOOMSDAY DEVICE to someone like a highschool bully. WHILE HE IS STILL IN HIGHSCHOOL!

You are either an Iranian praying for America's downfall or else completely noob and retarded at world relations.

We WORKED to get where we are in this world. We Americans, through fu$%ing sweat, blood, and death of WW2 saved the world from fascism, and discovered the most deadly weapon in the history of EVERYTHING on the way. Thats like winning a starcraft game, and then saying, bah, im too greedy, i should give the guy all my minerals and 3 hours to build while i go look at porn and lose. Just handing that treasure over to third world countries and such would result in EVERYONE DYING.

Nigeria-"Hm, those neighbors we have, the Nigers, are stealing water from our well. NUKE THE FUCKERS!"
Niger- "Oh SHIT! RETALIATE!"
the REST OF AFRICA-"NUKES ARE FLYING! SHIT! EVERYONE RETALIATE!"

Thats just a TASTE of something that could happen.

No matter how good you are anyone deems you at computer games, world political relations takes more than "pro starcraft apm" to master and think about correctly.



Are you saying that you are PROUD you invented the nuke?

Lol, America saving the world. What textbooks did you read in school?


Yeah and Canada has helped shape the world into what it is today right?

It's amazing how you guys can sit on your asses throughout almost every major war and bitch about what America has done to make the world it is today. Your rofl pony riding police were a big help vs japanese carriers and panzer divisions I'm sure.

Lol, Canada doing something other than bitching about everything. What textbooks did YOU read in school?

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Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-18 06:02:57
August 18 2010 05:54 GMT
#587
On August 18 2010 14:50 TwoPac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2010 02:53 Dozle wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 13 2010 02:35 SpartiK1S wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2010 02:22 Monst3r wrote:
On June 13 2010 02:15 zer0das wrote:
On June 13 2010 02:08 Monst3r wrote:
Why would Saudi Arabia do such a thing.


Probably because Iran is a huge threat to the stability of their government... monarchy vs revolution. And whole region even. Nukes in the hands of Iran probably make them just as nervous as Israel.


If America has nukes, every single country in the world deserves nukes too.


wait wait wait, what the FU$%?

"If America has nukes, EVERYONE GETS NUKES"?????

You are either a teenager that doesn't understand world politics, or else a , god i can't say it without it getting deleted. What you are suggesting is the equivalent of giving a DOOMSDAY DEVICE to someone like a highschool bully. WHILE HE IS STILL IN HIGHSCHOOL!

You are either an Iranian praying for America's downfall or else completely noob and retarded at world relations.

We WORKED to get where we are in this world. We Americans, through fu$%ing sweat, blood, and death of WW2 saved the world from fascism, and discovered the most deadly weapon in the history of EVERYTHING on the way. Thats like winning a starcraft game, and then saying, bah, im too greedy, i should give the guy all my minerals and 3 hours to build while i go look at porn and lose. Just handing that treasure over to third world countries and such would result in EVERYONE DYING.

Nigeria-"Hm, those neighbors we have, the Nigers, are stealing water from our well. NUKE THE FUCKERS!"
Niger- "Oh SHIT! RETALIATE!"
the REST OF AFRICA-"NUKES ARE FLYING! SHIT! EVERYONE RETALIATE!"

Thats just a TASTE of something that could happen.

No matter how good you are anyone deems you at computer games, world political relations takes more than "pro starcraft apm" to master and think about correctly.



Are you saying that you are PROUD you invented the nuke?

Lol, America saving the world. What textbooks did you read in school?


Yeah and Canada has helped shape the world into what it is today right?

It's amazing how you guys can sit on your asses throughout almost every major war and bitch about what America has done to make the world it is today. Your rofl pony riding police were a big help vs japanese carriers and panzer divisions I'm sure.

Lol, Canada doing something other than bitching about everything. What textbooks did YOU read in school?


Oh dear.

I guess Vimy Ridge in WW1 didn't really happen. Guess those Canadians were sitting on their asses then ^^

Canada also played a major role in WW2, all things considered. 1.1 million men in arms + a massive navy + a critically important merchant marine...

Also saying America """WON""" WW2 and "saved the world" is pretty ignorant as well. Could the USA have done it without a beachhead in Europe and North Africa thanks to the British? Or the fact that so much of the German military was occupied in the East (where, I might add, the Soviets and Eastern Europeans suffered much more and shed many more tears and blood than the US ever did).

It's like saying....hey, my control group of carriers finally won this PvT. What about those zealots and templars and dragoons and reavers that all did their part just so the carriers could eventually finish the job. Did the carriers WIN the game by all themselves? Perhaps, but Stork never would have gotten them without the help of all the other units ^^

thats pretty hardcore off-topic though.....
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-18 06:05:58
August 18 2010 06:05 GMT
#588
On August 15 2010 14:25 Blanke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2010 10:14 Jackafur wrote:
On June 13 2010 02:15 Zionner wrote:
I have a bad feeling some serious shit is going to go down soon


web bot predicted world war 3 on November 15th of this year. My birthday is the 16th. I'm not saying the web bot is all knowing or anything. Just food for thought.


If wikipedia is correct, I believe Webbot said, "a major tipping point that's U.S. centric, possibly the beginning of WWIII or the collapse of the US dollar" from Nov. 8-11th, 2010. (No war between Israel and Iran until at least November as well, it claims.)

The page also says that on Dec. 14th, 2010 the first nuclear missile will be launched. Where does webbot get this from? I'm not entirely sure, and it could easily be a load of bollocks, but after watching the following video predicting economic downfall in the US, I'm beginning to think Webbot has merit.

Wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webbot

Video I mentioned in my post: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR4tz4kqOqA

Before this post, I didn't think this thread could reach a higher level of absurdity and misinformation. Bravo, TLers.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
TwoPac
Profile Joined October 2009
United States163 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-18 06:25:37
August 18 2010 06:14 GMT
#589
On August 18 2010 14:54 Elegy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2010 14:50 TwoPac wrote:
On June 13 2010 02:53 Dozle wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 13 2010 02:35 SpartiK1S wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2010 02:22 Monst3r wrote:
On June 13 2010 02:15 zer0das wrote:
On June 13 2010 02:08 Monst3r wrote:
Why would Saudi Arabia do such a thing.


Probably because Iran is a huge threat to the stability of their government... monarchy vs revolution. And whole region even. Nukes in the hands of Iran probably make them just as nervous as Israel.


If America has nukes, every single country in the world deserves nukes too.


wait wait wait, what the FU$%?

"If America has nukes, EVERYONE GETS NUKES"?????

You are either a teenager that doesn't understand world politics, or else a , god i can't say it without it getting deleted. What you are suggesting is the equivalent of giving a DOOMSDAY DEVICE to someone like a highschool bully. WHILE HE IS STILL IN HIGHSCHOOL!

You are either an Iranian praying for America's downfall or else completely noob and retarded at world relations.

We WORKED to get where we are in this world. We Americans, through fu$%ing sweat, blood, and death of WW2 saved the world from fascism, and discovered the most deadly weapon in the history of EVERYTHING on the way. Thats like winning a starcraft game, and then saying, bah, im too greedy, i should give the guy all my minerals and 3 hours to build while i go look at porn and lose. Just handing that treasure over to third world countries and such would result in EVERYONE DYING.

Nigeria-"Hm, those neighbors we have, the Nigers, are stealing water from our well. NUKE THE FUCKERS!"
Niger- "Oh SHIT! RETALIATE!"
the REST OF AFRICA-"NUKES ARE FLYING! SHIT! EVERYONE RETALIATE!"

Thats just a TASTE of something that could happen.

No matter how good you are anyone deems you at computer games, world political relations takes more than "pro starcraft apm" to master and think about correctly.



Are you saying that you are PROUD you invented the nuke?

Lol, America saving the world. What textbooks did you read in school?


Yeah and Canada has helped shape the world into what it is today right?

It's amazing how you guys can sit on your asses throughout almost every major war and bitch about what America has done to make the world it is today. Your rofl pony riding police were a big help vs japanese carriers and panzer divisions I'm sure.

Lol, Canada doing something other than bitching about everything. What textbooks did YOU read in school?


Oh dear.

I guess Vimy Ridge in WW1 didn't really happen. Guess those Canadians were sitting on their asses then ^^

Canada also played a major role in WW2, all things considered. 1.1 million men in arms + a massive navy + a critically important merchant marine...

Also saying America """WON""" WW2 and "saved the world" is pretty ignorant as well. Could the USA have done it without a beachhead in Europe and North Africa thanks to the British? Or the fact that so much of the German military was occupied in the East (where, I might add, the Soviets and Eastern Europeans suffered much more and shed many more tears and blood than the US ever did).

It's like saying....hey, my control group of carriers finally won this PvT. What about those zealots and templars and dragoons and reavers that all did their part just so the carriers could eventually finish the job. Did the carriers WIN the game by all themselves? Perhaps, but Stork never would have gotten them without the help of all the other units ^^


So World War 2 could have been won without America? The annihilation of the Imperial Japanese Navy would've come at the hands of Canada? You think Britain, Soviets and the Chinese would've got their equipment from Canada? If USA didn't join in the war, there would be no Russia or France or China. The Allies were almost upon defeat until the USA joined in. Canada was fighting then right, and what major battle were they known for winning? The Dieppe raid (lol)?

We had 16 million soldiers serve, I think we could pump out another 1.1 million soldiers EZ.

Canada had 45000 casualties and it's country wasn't touched by the war, while the USA was hit HARD at pearl harbor (and our navy still fucked the japanese hard, while Canada's navy did what?) and had over 400000 casualties. 45 000 casualties out of 1.1 million men armed isn't shit. It's like breaking a finger while Russia and China lost an arm and a leg.

Oh and your comment about Vimy Ridge is invalid, cause I said ALMOST EVERY WAR. And I never said US suffered more casualties than the Soviets and Low Countries/ Poland.
"I once contemplated suicide, but when I held that nine all I could see was my mama's eyes."
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-18 06:31:19
August 18 2010 06:27 GMT
#590
On August 18 2010 15:14 TwoPac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2010 14:54 Elegy wrote:
On August 18 2010 14:50 TwoPac wrote:
On June 13 2010 02:53 Dozle wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 13 2010 02:35 SpartiK1S wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2010 02:22 Monst3r wrote:
On June 13 2010 02:15 zer0das wrote:
On June 13 2010 02:08 Monst3r wrote:
Why would Saudi Arabia do such a thing.


Probably because Iran is a huge threat to the stability of their government... monarchy vs revolution. And whole region even. Nukes in the hands of Iran probably make them just as nervous as Israel.


If America has nukes, every single country in the world deserves nukes too.


wait wait wait, what the FU$%?

"If America has nukes, EVERYONE GETS NUKES"?????

You are either a teenager that doesn't understand world politics, or else a , god i can't say it without it getting deleted. What you are suggesting is the equivalent of giving a DOOMSDAY DEVICE to someone like a highschool bully. WHILE HE IS STILL IN HIGHSCHOOL!

You are either an Iranian praying for America's downfall or else completely noob and retarded at world relations.

We WORKED to get where we are in this world. We Americans, through fu$%ing sweat, blood, and death of WW2 saved the world from fascism, and discovered the most deadly weapon in the history of EVERYTHING on the way. Thats like winning a starcraft game, and then saying, bah, im too greedy, i should give the guy all my minerals and 3 hours to build while i go look at porn and lose. Just handing that treasure over to third world countries and such would result in EVERYONE DYING.

Nigeria-"Hm, those neighbors we have, the Nigers, are stealing water from our well. NUKE THE FUCKERS!"
Niger- "Oh SHIT! RETALIATE!"
the REST OF AFRICA-"NUKES ARE FLYING! SHIT! EVERYONE RETALIATE!"

Thats just a TASTE of something that could happen.

No matter how good you are anyone deems you at computer games, world political relations takes more than "pro starcraft apm" to master and think about correctly.



Are you saying that you are PROUD you invented the nuke?

Lol, America saving the world. What textbooks did you read in school?


Yeah and Canada has helped shape the world into what it is today right?

It's amazing how you guys can sit on your asses throughout almost every major war and bitch about what America has done to make the world it is today. Your rofl pony riding police were a big help vs japanese carriers and panzer divisions I'm sure.

Lol, Canada doing something other than bitching about everything. What textbooks did YOU read in school?


Oh dear.

I guess Vimy Ridge in WW1 didn't really happen. Guess those Canadians were sitting on their asses then ^^

Canada also played a major role in WW2, all things considered. 1.1 million men in arms + a massive navy + a critically important merchant marine...

Also saying America """WON""" WW2 and "saved the world" is pretty ignorant as well. Could the USA have done it without a beachhead in Europe and North Africa thanks to the British? Or the fact that so much of the German military was occupied in the East (where, I might add, the Soviets and Eastern Europeans suffered much more and shed many more tears and blood than the US ever did).

It's like saying....hey, my control group of carriers finally won this PvT. What about those zealots and templars and dragoons and reavers that all did their part just so the carriers could eventually finish the job. Did the carriers WIN the game by all themselves? Perhaps, but Stork never would have gotten them without the help of all the other units ^^


So World War 2 could have been won without America? The annihilation of the Imperial Japanese Navy would've come at the hands of Canada? You think Britain, Soviets and the Chinese would've got their equipment from Canada? If USA didn't join in the war, there would be no Russia or France or China. The Allies were almost upon defeat until the USA joined in. Canada was fighting then right, and what major battle were they known for winning? The Dieppe raid (lol)?

Canada had 45000 casualties and it's country wasn't touched by the war, while the USA was hit HARD at pearl harbor and had over 400000 casualties. 45 000 casualties out of 1.1 million men armed isn't shit. It's like breaking a finger while Russia and China lost an arm and a leg.

Oh and your comment about Vimy Ridge is invalid, cause I said ALMOST EVERY WAR. And I never said US suffered more casualties than the Soviets and Low Countries.




Could WW2 have been won without the USA and all of her help towards the Soviets and British? Highly unlikely... But could the USA have won the war without Russia and the Commonwealth nations? all by her lonesome? not a chance

there is a very real difference in saying "WW2 was won by the USA" and saying "Without the USA, WW2 could not have been won"

also i dont get what u mean with "every major war"...WW1 and WW2 are the only truly "major wars" of the 20th century and Canada participated in both to a pretty large extent given their population, resources, domestic politics, and international political standing

What other major wars do u count? korea? vietnam? hardly major wars given the magnitude of the previous conflicts and also (arguably) much more irrelevant

again this is pretty off-topic, new thread about ww2 might be in order to better protect the integrity and solid, effective discussion seen in the last several pages of this thread (sarcasm btw)
TwoPac
Profile Joined October 2009
United States163 Posts
August 18 2010 06:42 GMT
#591
Where did I say the war was won by USA? They 2 main statements were that the Allies did not need Canadian help to win and that the Allies could not win without help from the US.
"I once contemplated suicide, but when I held that nine all I could see was my mama's eyes."
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
August 18 2010 08:40 GMT
#592
No further derailing. Stop.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
thesighter
Profile Joined July 2010
United States347 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-18 18:02:09
August 18 2010 17:53 GMT
#593
I don't think Israel will hit the reactor before Russia fuels it. Israel has previously bombed nuclear reactors in Iraq and Syria, but those countries at the time were much weaker than the current Iran. Also, Busheshr is Iran's most prominent and visible reactor. If Iran wanted to build a nuke, it wouldn't be at that site.

That being said, if Iran decides to pursue a nuke, Israel will destroy the reactor by any means necessary. General Israeli opinion is that a nuclear Arab state would threaten Israel's existence.

Edit: Iran is not Arab, but you get the idea..
gamapg
Profile Joined January 2010
Philippines189 Posts
August 18 2010 18:44 GMT
#594
On August 15 2010 10:21 Wayra wrote:
I see a timing window...

Kinda said to myself this is Israel's EE HAN TIMING right here...
ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-18 19:07:23
August 18 2010 19:07 GMT
#595
[b]UPDATE:

"Former US envoy to the UN John Bolton said Monday that if Israel wants to prevent Iran from acquiring a working nuclear plant, then a military strike must be launched against the Bushehr nuclear power facility within the next eight days. The comments were made in an interview with the Fox Business Network."

http://www.jpost.com/IranianThreat/News/Article.aspx?id=185044
Yes im
Blanke
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada180 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 02:36:15
August 19 2010 02:32 GMT
#596
[QUOTE]On August 18 2010 15:05 Jibba wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 15 2010 14:25 Blanke wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 15 2010 10:14 Jackafur wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 13 2010 02:15 Zionner wrote:
I have a bad feeling some serious shit is going to go down soon[/QUOTE]

web bot predicted world war 3 on November 15th of this year. My birthday is the 16th. I'm not saying the web bot is all knowing or anything. Just food for thought. [/QUOTE]

If wikipedia is correct, I believe Webbot said, "a major tipping point that's U.S. centric, possibly the beginning of WWIII or the collapse of the US dollar" from Nov. 8-11th, 2010. (No war between Israel and Iran until at least November as well, it claims.)

The page also says that on Dec. 14th, 2010 the first nuclear missile will be launched. Where does webbot get this from? I'm not entirely sure, and it could easily be a load of bollocks, but after watching the following video predicting economic downfall in the US, I'm beginning to think Webbot has merit.

Wikipedia link: [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webbot]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webbot[/url]


Before this post, I didn't think this thread could reach a higher level of absurdity and misinformation. Bravo, TLers.[/QUOTE]

Jibba, you're gonna have to elaborate on why exactly the video I posted was absurd. (Or perhaps Webbot truly is a load of bollocks?) The narrator drew reasonable analogies between the US and Japanese economy, explaining the struggles of each nation but highlighting how Japan was prepared for their downfall while the US . . . well, let's be honest - you guys are in pretty rough shape. Pretty soon Iran's oil fields, which contain 10% of the worlds oil supply, will become a necessity for US military interest.
But I'm getting ahead of myself. The most pressing concern right now is whether or not Israel will capitalize on their timing window, as ImFromPortugal was kindly enough to update us with. If they miss this opportunity and bomb the reactors later with US support, we basically have Chernobyl: Reloaded, as I may mentioned in previous posts. Pulling a stunt like that would destabilize global security faster than discovering Soviet nukes in Cuba. You can't have radiation poisoning thousands of civillians and expect to get away with it. There's a reason why radioactive, chemical and biological warfare is avoided in the US militaries' collateral damage in modern combat - the effects are horrific and extremely detrimental to one's reputation as a commander.
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