On June 13 2010 02:08 Monst3r wrote: Why would Saudi Arabia do such a thing.
Probably because Iran is a huge threat to the stability of their government... monarchy vs revolution. And whole region even. Nukes in the hands of Iran probably make them just as nervous as Israel.
If America has nukes, every single country in the world deserves nukes too.
wait wait wait, what the FU$%?
"If America has nukes, EVERYONE GETS NUKES"?????
You are either a teenager that doesn't understand world politics, or else a , god i can't say it without it getting deleted. What you are suggesting is the equivalent of giving a DOOMSDAY DEVICE to someone like a highschool bully. WHILE HE IS STILL IN HIGHSCHOOL!
You are either an Iranian praying for America's downfall or else completely noob and retarded at world relations.
We WORKED to get where we are in this world. We Americans, through fu$%ing sweat, blood, and death of WW2 saved the world from fascism, and discovered the most deadly weapon in the history of EVERYTHING on the way. Thats like winning a starcraft game, and then saying, bah, im too greedy, i should give the guy all my minerals and 3 hours to build while i go look at porn and lose. Just handing that treasure over to third world countries and such would result in EVERYONE DYING.
Nigeria-"Hm, those neighbors we have, the Nigers, are stealing water from our well. NUKE THE FUCKERS!" Niger- "Oh SHIT! RETALIATE!" the REST OF AFRICA-"NUKES ARE FLYING! SHIT! EVERYONE RETALIATE!"
Thats just a TASTE of something that could happen.
No matter how good you are anyone deems you at computer games, world political relations takes more than "pro starcraft apm" to master and think about correctly.
Are you saying that you are PROUD you invented the nuke?
On June 13 2010 02:08 Monst3r wrote: Why would Saudi Arabia do such a thing.
Probably because Iran is a huge threat to the stability of their government... monarchy vs revolution. And whole region even. Nukes in the hands of Iran probably make them just as nervous as Israel.
If America has nukes, every single country in the world deserves nukes too.
If a war actually takes place then get ready to witness oil prices sky rocket to ridiculous height. Be prepared to pay 50USD for a gallon at your nearest petrol station. hyperinflation here we come
On June 13 2010 02:08 Monst3r wrote: Why would Saudi Arabia do such a thing.
Probably because Iran is a huge threat to the stability of their government... monarchy vs revolution. And whole region even. Nukes in the hands of Iran probably make them just as nervous as Israel.
If America has nukes, every single country in the world deserves nukes too.
wait wait wait, what the FU$%?
"If America has nukes, EVERYONE GETS NUKES"?????
You are either a teenager that doesn't understand world politics, or else a , god i can't say it without it getting deleted. What you are suggesting is the equivalent of giving a DOOMSDAY DEVICE to someone like a highschool bully. WHILE HE IS STILL IN HIGHSCHOOL!
You are either an Iranian praying for America's downfall or else completely noob and retarded at world relations.
We WORKED to get where we are in this world. We Americans, through fu$%ing sweat, blood, and death of WW2 saved the world from fascism, and discovered the most deadly weapon in the history of EVERYTHING on the way. Thats like winning a starcraft game, and then saying, bah, im too greedy, i should give the guy all my minerals and 3 hours to build while i go look at porn and lose. Just handing that treasure over to third world countries and such would result in EVERYONE DYING.
Nigeria-"Hm, those neighbors we have, the Nigers, are stealing water from our well. NUKE THE FUCKERS!" Niger- "Oh SHIT! RETALIATE!" the REST OF AFRICA-"NUKES ARE FLYING! SHIT! EVERYONE RETALIATE!"
Thats just a TASTE of something that could happen.
No matter how good you are anyone deems you at computer games, world political relations takes more than "pro starcraft apm" to master and think about correctly.
On June 13 2010 02:08 Monst3r wrote: Why would Saudi Arabia do such a thing.
Probably because Iran is a huge threat to the stability of their government... monarchy vs revolution. And whole region even. Nukes in the hands of Iran probably make them just as nervous as Israel.
If America has nukes, every single country in the world deserves nukes too.
You really think countries like Iran and North Korea are going to be more responsible with nukes than America?
Not North Korea but Iran sure is. How many wars has Iran started and how many has America started?
On June 13 2010 02:08 Monst3r wrote: Why would Saudi Arabia do such a thing.
Probably because Iran is a huge threat to the stability of their government... monarchy vs revolution. And whole region even. Nukes in the hands of Iran probably make them just as nervous as Israel.
If America has nukes, every single country in the world deserves nukes too.
User was temp banned for this post.
There's no real reason to temp-ban this person. He just has an outlandish opinion--since when do we temp ban people just because they think differently? That's absurd.
User was warned for this post because he fails to check the ban thread when complaining about a ban
Okay, so just because America was the first country to make a nuclear weapon, that means no other country should get it? Cause that's what your implying.
I'll edit this post more when I'm done eating
I believe he meant that other countries shouldn't just get all the technology and know-how for free, and that they'd haft to invest effort into it.
On June 13 2010 02:08 Monst3r wrote: Why would Saudi Arabia do such a thing.
Probably because Iran is a huge threat to the stability of their government... monarchy vs revolution. And whole region even. Nukes in the hands of Iran probably make them just as nervous as Israel.
If America has nukes, every single country in the world deserves nukes too.
wait wait wait, what the FU$%?
"If America has nukes, EVERYONE GETS NUKES"?????
You are either a teenager that doesn't understand world politics, or else a , god i can't say it without it getting deleted. What you are suggesting is the equivalent of giving a DOOMSDAY DEVICE to someone like a highschool bully. WHILE HE IS STILL IN HIGHSCHOOL!
You are either an Iranian praying for America's downfall or else completely noob and retarded at world relations.
We WORKED to get where we are in this world. We Americans, through fu$%ing sweat, blood, and death of WW2 saved the world from fascism, and discovered the most deadly weapon in the history of EVERYTHING on the way. Thats like winning a starcraft game, and then saying, bah, im too greedy, i should give the guy all my minerals and 3 hours to build while i go look at porn and lose. Just handing that treasure over to third world countries and such would result in EVERYONE DYING.
Nigeria-"Hm, those neighbors we have, the Nigers, are stealing water from our well. NUKE THE FUCKERS!" Niger- "Oh SHIT! RETALIATE!" the REST OF AFRICA-"NUKES ARE FLYING! SHIT! EVERYONE RETALIATE!"
Thats just a TASTE of something that could happen.
No matter how good you are anyone deems you at computer games, world political relations takes more than "pro starcraft apm" to master and think about correctly.
Are you saying that you are PROUD you invented the nuke?
Lol, America saving the world. What textbooks did you read in school?
At least he isn't some pussy who sits around blaming America for actually doing something when we all know Canada would be royally fucked if America didn't do all the things it does. You think Canada could exist w/o America? Do you realize almost your entire population is off the border of America? You think America is bad? We stopped Facism and Communism, you think lol mounted royal police are going to stop panzer divisions or japanese carriers?
The nuke saved Americans lives against an aggressor that would otherwise take years and money and lives to end. The Japanese were insane, they kamikazee and suicide, jump off cliffs, think the emperor is God, did all sorts of sick torture to civillians (raping of nanking rite?) and DIDNT SURRENDER ON THE FIRST NUKE!!! Do you understand that? THEY DIDNT SURRENDER WHEN ONE OF THEIR MAJOR CITIES GOT NUKED. Meaning it took more than a nuke to get them to surrender. Canada is almost as bad ad France holy crap.
On June 13 2010 02:08 Monst3r wrote: Why would Saudi Arabia do such a thing.
Probably because Iran is a huge threat to the stability of their government... monarchy vs revolution. And whole region even. Nukes in the hands of Iran probably make them just as nervous as Israel.
If America has nukes, every single country in the world deserves nukes too.
You really think countries like Iran and North Korea are going to be more responsible with nukes than America?
Not North Korea but Iran sure is. How many wars has Iran started and how many has America started?
Responsibility with nukes =/= # of wars started
I am not taking sides but rather playing devils advocate. How does one judge/define "responsibility"? By their words or their actions? Because USA has both the history of using nukes and habit of engaging in wars.
Sorry If I went a little off topic, The debate of moral superiority and moral authority is intriguing and interesting.
On June 13 2010 02:08 Monst3r wrote: Why would Saudi Arabia do such a thing.
Probably because Iran is a huge threat to the stability of their government... monarchy vs revolution. And whole region even. Nukes in the hands of Iran probably make them just as nervous as Israel.
If America has nukes, every single country in the world deserves nukes too.
User was temp banned for this post.
There's no real reason to temp-ban this person. He just has an outlandish opinion--since when do we temp ban people just because they think differently? That's absurd.
The percent of people who actually believe this is so small it is 1000x more likely he is trolling. And besides that it is absolutely stupid. America has never used a "nuke", we used two atom bombs to end WW2, see my other post.
Iran is less likely to use nukes than israel imo. There is no good argument for why they shouldn't be allowed to have them when israel does. Now of course if it was up to me no countries would have them.
LoL @ all those bans Well, I think the main problem is that Israel have the bomb while they are not supposed to... Since they have it and the entire international community doesn't do shit about it, country like Iran think that they need it to survive and that they will not be punished if they were to purchase it.
We Americans, through fu$%ing sweat, blood, and death of WW2 saved the world from fascism
I totally agree that US did sweat blood in the WW2, but you didn't "save the world from facism" alone please. The Russian victories were very important and the english also played a big part in the war. Well, at least we French were pretty useless in WW2 (we did most of the job in WW1 though).
You are either a teenager that doesn't understand world politics, or else a , god i can't say it without it getting deleted. What you are suggesting is the equivalent of giving a DOOMSDAY DEVICE to someone like a highschool bully. WHILE HE IS STILL IN HIGHSCHOOL!
You are either an Iranian praying for America's downfall or else completely noob and retarded at world relations.
We WORKED to get where we are in this world. We Americans, through fu$%ing sweat, blood, and death of WW2 saved the world from fascism, and discovered the most deadly weapon in the history of EVERYTHING on the way. Thats like winning a starcraft game, and then saying, bah, im too greedy, i should give the guy all my minerals and 3 hours to build while i go look at porn and lose. Just handing that treasure over to third world countries and such would result in EVERYONE DYING.
Nigeria-"Hm, those neighbors we have, the Nigers, are stealing water from our well. NUKE THE FUCKERS!" Niger- "Oh SHIT! RETALIATE!" the REST OF AFRICA-"NUKES ARE FLYING! SHIT! EVERYONE RETALIATE!"
Thats just a TASTE of something that could happen.
No matter how good you are anyone deems you at computer games, world political relations takes more than "pro starcraft apm" to master and think about correctly.
and there i thought the "best country in the world" bs was a relic of the last centry...
technicly america hardly "discovered" the atomic bomb, it is merely the direct result of einsteins research set into practice. neither is it the "deadliest weapon in the history of everything" ;>
the nigeria analogy is pretty awfull. iran is in a unique situation, not really compareable with north korea or any other "evil" country for that matter.
it doesnt take much to see the relation between israels attack on the aid fleet and its politicly very convincing attempt to "save the world from evil" days later. i wonder who will assist israel in playing world police :F
Claiming that other countries deserve nukes because America has them or that only America deserves nuke because "fuck yeah glorious America that always does the right thing and has never wrongfully hurt anyone" is retarded.
Everyone should be pushing to ensure that Iran complies with the IAEA, everyone should be pushing to force Israel, Pakistan, India and North Korea to sign the NPT and undergo inspections from the IAEA and everyone should be pushing for America, Russia, United Kingdom, France and China to dismantle their weapons as quickly and safely as possible. Stop giving a shit about just your country or hating on just one country and start giving a shit about the entirety of humanity.
On June 13 2010 02:08 Monst3r wrote: Why would Saudi Arabia do such a thing.
Probably because Iran is a huge threat to the stability of their government... monarchy vs revolution. And whole region even. Nukes in the hands of Iran probably make them just as nervous as Israel.
If America has nukes, every single country in the world deserves nukes too.
You really think countries like Iran and North Korea are going to be more responsible with nukes than America?
Which country has used nuclear technology in a war? USA, twice.
Which country has the most bases around the world outside of their own country? USA.
Which country has the most soldiers outside of it's own country? USA.
How many countries that have acted this way in history have been viewed as ethical, and moral, in their use of war technology? 0.
Currently, we live in an empire, and every single empire ever, has fallen from greatness at one time when it overextended itself to the point we have. Every single one. If you really want to know what is right and wrong, and what a country should do as far as wars, just look to history for the answers.
On June 13 2010 02:08 Monst3r wrote: Why would Saudi Arabia do such a thing.
Probably because Iran is a huge threat to the stability of their government... monarchy vs revolution. And whole region even. Nukes in the hands of Iran probably make them just as nervous as Israel.
If America has nukes, every single country in the world deserves nukes too.
Game balance.
As a side note, I just find it strange that this is public news. It's so weird to announce "I'm going to bomb you now."
Not that strange really given recent announcements. Hillary Clinton announced that it was highly likely Iran was going to pull some stunt "with 24 to 48 hours" a few days ago, and nothing happened. Immediately after that time frame ran out, tighter sanctions got slapped onto Iran. Now this even gets publicized. Why the hell would you publicize something like this unless you are trying to provoke a response?
Hope I am wrong, but I am kind of fearing that a Gulf of Tonkin type incident is being attempted. Just really feels like a buildup towards such a thing is being done...
EPT
