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On April 27 2004 13:47 0_0 wrote: Show nested quote +On April 27 2004 11:02 choboPEon wrote: Funny, considering what's been said in this thread. China shuts down 8,600 Internet cafes in two months
Tue Apr 27,10:37 AM ET
BEIJING (AFP) - China has shut down 8,600 Internet cafes in the last two months as part of an ongoing crackdown on the media.
AFP/File Photo
"Since our video conference on this issue on February 19, we have banned 8,600 underground Internet bars," the People's Daily quoted Minister of Culture Sun Jiazheng as saying.
"At present, there still exists many problems with the management at Internet cafes and Internet service providers."
Sun suggested the campaign was far from over and urged governments at the grassroots level to crack down on Internet bars providing services to under-age users and to impose stiffer fines on cafes violating regulations.
Overseeing the crackdown was a special bureau headed by Sun, which has linked up with 10 other ministries responsible for areas including education, law, finance, civil affairs, youth and telecommunications, the paper said.
The crackdown comes after the propaganda ministry annnounced last October a new "educational campaign" aimed at reaffirming Communist Party control over the press, including television, print and the electronic media.
Despite government restrictions, China is second only to the United States in the number of people online, with users rising to 79.5 million by December 2003 from 59.1 million a year earlier.
Internet cafes are often the only way to access the web for many Chinese due to the prohibitive costs of home computers, especially in rural villages and towns.
Besides cracking down on anti-government and subversive material, the measures are also aimed at curbing pornography and banning those under 16 from Internet gaming bars that have become magnets for rural and village youth.
In the last two months, the government has also greatly restricted web logs (blogs) and discussion forums, banned Internet bars from operating within 200 meters (660 feet) of schools and set up video surveillance cameras in Internet cafes in Shanghai.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1510&e=3&u=/afp/20040427/tc_afp/china_internet_media_040427143755 This media is obviously biased(as is China's more than likely), I was in China the last time pc bangs were closed, and it was because several pc bangs had burned down(along with EVERYONE inside), pc bangs are extremely unhygenic as haduken said earlier, and extremely prone to fires(most have 1 exit), also they seem to have a knack for breeding pickpockets and other thieves of the sort. In general they are not very safe places. I have been to several and it IS rather hard to find a decent pc bang. In fact I have been "jumped" more than once at pc bangs. Many of you here have not been to a pc bang in Asia/China, some would envision safe fire exits, nice spread out computers, good lighting, many windows. But thats not the case in many pc bangs looking to save money where ever they can, they don't have regulations like we do in the US. And oh yeah, believe me, when you jam together about 30-40 desktops in a single small room, it gets pretty bloody fucking hot. Just a side note, VERY FEW pc bangs look as nice as Boxer's Dropship Cafe, in fact I'd go as far as saying there are probably no cafes of that caliber in China. Well thats my view as someone who has actually had some experience in these matters.
Actually someone posted a few pics from a new chinese pc bang that looked absolutely AWESOME!
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trust me most pc bangs are in the backs of alleys and what not, and look pretty bad. However there are exceptions, if I were still in China I could post a few pix of tons of really shitty looking pc bangs.
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Sweden33719 Posts
.. in fact I'd go as far as saying there are probably no cafes of that caliber in China.
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I'll admit that was something of an exaggeration, there are DECENT pc bangs, but I do doubt that there are any pc bangs of Boxer's Dropship Cafe's caliber, especially with the big screen tvs, cool lights, nice speakers, etc. Please show me a pc bang from China that has that stuff.
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HOLY SHIT. That is one HIGH CLASS place. Oh damn.. Boxer got mad class, or the designers he hired or his sponsors did or whatever. When he was talking PC Bangs, was he talking Korean places? Cuz Bang is a Korean word for room, and I dunno if the CHiense call it PC bang also. From what I know, PC Bangs in Korea are nice... - -
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That's a chinese pc bang, the pics from Boxer's and Yellow's cafe are down ;o
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man those PC bangs BS i dont believe those, they must be super dumb invest a couple of million$ into a net cafe???? eh?? lol
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Sweden33719 Posts
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Japan wants to be china, always has.
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I thought that was Korea -_-
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both i suppose,
japan accepted a lot of foreign culture thru out history.
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But why do you occupy Hawaii??
It's thousands miles away from your land, and why do you occupy her?
On April 24 2004 09:27 DV8 wrote: Show nested quote +On April 24 2004 09:24 LastRomance wrote: On April 24 2004 09:04 DV8 wrote:
This story sounds more feasible than what haduken was spitting out. I just don't understand one thing, Who did you need defense from? tibet shared a border with kazakhistan which was probably part of the USSR at the time mongolia which no longer had genghis khan, afghanistan, pakistan, india, and nepal all of which are no threat to china. Maybe missle defense? But than again russia was far better equiped to do that. Russia was trying to get its power into domestic China, and Manchuria was becomin a problem as it was very close to U.S. bases in Japan, any movenment through Manchuria would stir up U.S. involvement which would expose the split between china and U.S.S.R, causing the potential danger of U.S. - china co-opretaion against Soviets. The Soviet already gained control over Mongolia, but due the desert, military mobilisation was highly inefficient. Tibet was strategically close to Moscow as compared to Beijing and it opened up the door to Middle East. China had to defend it because there were too many other powers in the region eyeing for the defenseless plateau. Soviet invaded Afghanistan as an alternative, after China secured Tibet, and disputes in Tibet-India border are cosntant and frequent. But because it was by nature military, therefore violence was unaviodable. And the military only knows one way to secure its power in a region and that is the use of excessive violence against the population. It's probably even stated in the consitution of many countries.
Ok so you don't have a soviet russia anymore to worry about why does china still have control over tibet?[/QUOTE]
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Swedes, Danes and Norweigans ,Finland and Iceland are sperate countries!
You can unite into one, and of course you can remain seperated!
But remember, you were not in a courty at all, so it is common for you to remain seperated
On April 24 2004 05:54 FrozenArbiter wrote: Show nested quote +On April 23 2004 17:03 we want peace wrote: You can say that the public opinions of CHina to TIbet is annexing, disregarding the core of demacracy that is the repect of the opinions of most people. Actually the Chinese common people have a strong willing in uniting our country. SO why do you neglect most people's opinion? Is that democracy? On April 23 2004 16:55 DV8 wrote: On April 23 2004 16:43 we want peace wrote: Stop your rude words which shows your lack in education! It's your own right to continue your unfair feelings and twisted opinion about CHina! And it's your own opinion to ingnore the public opinion of China , shouting we want to lerbrate Tibet, and the result of which is doing nothing because of your coward nature! You want democracy, but you are ignoring other people's opinion. So it's the democracy of yours but not other people's! Stop your hypercritical On April 23 2004 16:35 dronebabo wrote:
ok, how about u first learn english, then understand what i'm trying to say.
i am not saying we should liberate china, but the chinese government itself should free the tibetan people from chinese rule.
you people went into tibet and basically conquered it with your massive military compared to their nothing.
tell me if that's worth being proud of, and if you still are proud of that, i say you are a fucking idiot, and worthless. good day "we want peace"
oh and i never said i feared communist rule. i said i PREFER democracy to communism because i have more freedom. china isn't even all that communist no more.
my own partial opinion? should i take china, cut it in half and create two separate countries?
i'm pretty sure a lot of koreans will agree with me that china shouldn't have interefered by helping north koreans. I don't even think your reading his posts by your replies, so don't talk about him disregarding your post. Secondly because the chinese people feel they should should annex tibet it makes it right? Im sorry USA has done alot of stuff like this but hell I am not going to support those actions because im american it's wrong doesn't change things. Okay, here's an example: Let's say the majority of the Swedes, Danes and Norweigans wanted a unified Scandinavia, but the other countries (Finland and Iceland) did not - do you think it would be our democratic right to invade them, and through means of force include them in our unified Scandinavia?
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I think, in the past, every country abosorbed the land that was not a part of it.
New Mexico was not an American land, but it is now.
On April 24 2004 06:28 FrozenArbiter wrote: Show nested quote +On April 24 2004 05:14 we want peace wrote: Manchuria　is named by Japanese invaders. This part is located in the north-eastern China. But I can't understand, why you want to break China into pieces?Is that a meaningful action? On April 24 2004 05:08 FrozenArbiter wrote: On April 24 2004 04:44 we want peace wrote: Yeah, maybe you are right in terms of the poll in Taiwan. But any use of that? Only the opinions of most people can count! The president of Sweden should be selected by most Swedish people, but not 0.001% of your population, isn'it? On April 24 2004 04:28 FrozenArbiter wrote: On April 23 2004 06:22 we want peace wrote: On April 23 2004 06:13 FreeZEternal wrote: On April 23 2004 06:09 we want peace wrote: On April 23 2004 05:57 FreeZEternal wrote:
I have some chinese friends and taiwanese friends and from hong kong. Kinda weird...either i'm with my chinese friends or taiwanese friends...i can't be with both -_-;;;; I should say that Taiwan is a part of China, and Taiwanese is also Chinese. I don't want to say North or South Korea. cause I'd rather regard you as one nation on the peninsula The first time I met them i was like...are you chinese? They responded: "No", I'm taiwanese -_-;. I know the problem you have described, but if you do a poll in any city in China, I'm sure, most of the people will tell you that Taiwan is a province of China. The public opinion is very important *Mainland Chinese towns, yes.. Do that same poll in Taiwan and I'm pretty sure you'll get a different answer. China has expanded a lot during these last 100 years I believe.. You guys are not free of guilt either. Tibet anyone? Taiwan is recognized as a sovereign nation isn't it? http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/tw.html I mean, should really the Chinese people in, say, Manchuria decide what happens to the people living in the other end of the country? Shouldn't local issues be decided by local people? Ah, about the Manchuria thing, what I meant is that you should have politicians deciding on a local level maybe? I mean, the US has it's states etc. China is a big country. However, you should acknowledge the fact that you did invade a lot of independent countries which are now part of China. I mean absolutely no offense - also, my knowledge of this particular subject is very much limited so I think I'll refrain from commenting on it any further as I feel I'm stepping out unto thin ice 
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On May 03 2004 00:22 Anti terrorist Bush wrote: Swedes, Danes and Norweigans ,Finland and Iceland are sperate countries! You can unite into one, and of course you can remain seperated! But remember, you were not in a courty at all, so it is common for you to remain seperated Show nested quote +On April 24 2004 05:54 FrozenArbiter wrote: On April 23 2004 17:03 we want peace wrote: You can say that the public opinions of CHina to TIbet is annexing, disregarding the core of demacracy that is the repect of the opinions of most people. Actually the Chinese common people have a strong willing in uniting our country. SO why do you neglect most people's opinion? Is that democracy? On April 23 2004 16:55 DV8 wrote: On April 23 2004 16:43 we want peace wrote: Stop your rude words which shows your lack in education! It's your own right to continue your unfair feelings and twisted opinion about CHina! And it's your own opinion to ingnore the public opinion of China , shouting we want to lerbrate Tibet, and the result of which is doing nothing because of your coward nature! You want democracy, but you are ignoring other people's opinion. So it's the democracy of yours but not other people's! Stop your hypercritical On April 23 2004 16:35 dronebabo wrote:
ok, how about u first learn english, then understand what i'm trying to say.
i am not saying we should liberate china, but the chinese government itself should free the tibetan people from chinese rule.
you people went into tibet and basically conquered it with your massive military compared to their nothing.
tell me if that's worth being proud of, and if you still are proud of that, i say you are a fucking idiot, and worthless. good day "we want peace"
oh and i never said i feared communist rule. i said i PREFER democracy to communism because i have more freedom. china isn't even all that communist no more.
my own partial opinion? should i take china, cut it in half and create two separate countries?
i'm pretty sure a lot of koreans will agree with me that china shouldn't have interefered by helping north koreans. I don't even think your reading his posts by your replies, so don't talk about him disregarding your post. Secondly because the chinese people feel they should should annex tibet it makes it right? Im sorry USA has done alot of stuff like this but hell I am not going to support those actions because im american it's wrong doesn't change things. Okay, here's an example: Let's say the majority of the Swedes, Danes and Norweigans wanted a unified Scandinavia, but the other countries (Finland and Iceland) did not - do you think it would be our democratic right to invade them, and through means of force include them in our unified Scandinavia?
Actually we controlled both Norway and Finland not too long ago ;O
Same thing with Tibet / China I suppose?
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As i said...Japan is gonna sink anywazy -_-;
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WTH, Those are not internet cafes for gamers. they're definitely made for those wealthy individual investors in the stock or future markets.
i guess those snobish attendants would throw you out if you go in there, log on to bnet and start smashing on the keyboard 100+times per minute.
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On April 23 2004 06:22 OriginalLogic wrote:
When did the leaders of Nazi Germany ever apologize for their actions? NEVER. The government in Germany today need not take responsibility for that crap.
Of course they have to take responsibility for that and they will have to for a loooong time
For example there's a jewish council in germany that gets supported with millions of euros every year (although I see no sense in this), whenever a german chancellor or any ministers goes to poland for example they have to apologize and they do (there's nothing wrong with it) etc.
So, I completely understand the hate chinese feel about japanese if they really didn't apologize (I just suggest it's right what the chinese and koreans say here)
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WTF is with the stupid "PWN"
it's "OWN" you retards tt
Don't take something geeky and make it even worse...
nerds..
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