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Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
May 12 2010 12:55 GMT
#501
If you really want to get rek up into this, you have to tap all those net admins that lurk a certain board, who managed to get a certain image-board administrator on the top of a well-respected magazine's poll. You probably know who I mean.
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Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-12 13:02:53
May 12 2010 13:02 GMT
#502
You mean moot and 4chan I assume. I don't believe it is taboo to just MENTION 4chan.

Meh, I hate quoting myself, but I mentioned the impossibility of getting Rek in on TL's power alone quite some time ago. The vote numbers are pulled out of my ass based on the 1st day vote count. The real number is most likely a lot smaller but probably still in the hundreds of thousands.
I figured Rek would eventually drop out of the top 50 given people's short attention spams. (Note: I fall under this category as well, so I'm not ripping on people.)

The above poster is basically correct. We need 4chan, or some other ridiculously high traffic site that would be willing to mass vote for luls basically, if such a site exists. Or we need to cheat massively and hope they don't notice somehow.

On March 18 2010 16:17 Conquest101 wrote:
Ok, here's a breakdown of the current situation.

1. The voting doesn't end until June 15th. That's like 120 days from now. Assuming a minimum of 40k votes per day, with each person actually picking the full 20 people allowed and most votes going to a similar "top" group, we are talking probably like 3-4 million + votes needed to get into the top 20. Even if it's 1/10th that, it dwarfs what TL can manage on it's own.

2. At first, it seemed possible to just make throw away email addresses or use the gmail glitch to keep voting. But by my experience, and the posts of others recently, it seems that it now checks based on IP as well. There is also the danger that votes via the gmail glitch or from obvious throwaways like guerrilla mail will be discarded or not counted.

3. TL's "active" numbers are usually around 1500-2000 at any given time. My guess is that 1/10th of those might be willing to actually bother to vote and that's generous. It can't be done, no matter how much IP changing/email making some of us are willing to do.

4. Thus, we need to either:
a. Cheat like hell. The problem with this is twofold. First, the script would have to be relatively sophisticated as it would have to make a throwaway email, attempt to register, log into email, click link, search Rek's name, and vote. Second, of course, is the high chance of a DQ.
b. Get 4chan on it. Of course, they'd likely just cheat as well, so see above.
c. Get really, really good at marketing on other sites. Or like.... own a major website like Digg or something.

C is the best option, but it'd have to be a fairly concerted effort. And it'd have to be done well. If we post on 4chan for example, and /b/tards decide to purposefully make us lose, well that's not very effective.

Meh, anyone have some good ideas? (anyone own Digg? or their own TV station?)

Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
May 12 2010 14:45 GMT
#503
On May 12 2010 22:02 Conquest101 wrote:
You mean moot and 4chan I assume. I don't believe it is taboo to just MENTION 4chan.

Meh, I hate quoting myself, but I mentioned the impossibility of getting Rek in on TL's power alone quite some time ago. The vote numbers are pulled out of my ass based on the 1st day vote count. The real number is most likely a lot smaller but probably still in the hundreds of thousands.
I figured Rek would eventually drop out of the top 50 given people's short attention spams. (Note: I fall under this category as well, so I'm not ripping on people.)

The above poster is basically correct. We need 4chan, or some other ridiculously high traffic site that would be willing to mass vote for luls basically, if such a site exists. Or we need to cheat massively and hope they don't notice somehow.

Show nested quote +
On March 18 2010 16:17 Conquest101 wrote:
Ok, here's a breakdown of the current situation.

1. The voting doesn't end until June 15th. That's like 120 days from now. Assuming a minimum of 40k votes per day, with each person actually picking the full 20 people allowed and most votes going to a similar "top" group, we are talking probably like 3-4 million + votes needed to get into the top 20. Even if it's 1/10th that, it dwarfs what TL can manage on it's own.

2. At first, it seemed possible to just make throw away email addresses or use the gmail glitch to keep voting. But by my experience, and the posts of others recently, it seems that it now checks based on IP as well. There is also the danger that votes via the gmail glitch or from obvious throwaways like guerrilla mail will be discarded or not counted.

3. TL's "active" numbers are usually around 1500-2000 at any given time. My guess is that 1/10th of those might be willing to actually bother to vote and that's generous. It can't be done, no matter how much IP changing/email making some of us are willing to do.

4. Thus, we need to either:
a. Cheat like hell. The problem with this is twofold. First, the script would have to be relatively sophisticated as it would have to make a throwaway email, attempt to register, log into email, click link, search Rek's name, and vote. Second, of course, is the high chance of a DQ.
b. Get 4chan on it. Of course, they'd likely just cheat as well, so see above.
c. Get really, really good at marketing on other sites. Or like.... own a major website like Digg or something.

C is the best option, but it'd have to be a fairly concerted effort. And it'd have to be done well. If we post on 4chan for example, and /b/tards decide to purposefully make us lose, well that's not very effective.

Meh, anyone have some good ideas? (anyone own Digg? or their own TV station?)


The Time method will essentially be the same as this, but considering that we're also seeing a random tripcode (not a word-based one) on this, it would be a bit more difficult in bypassing the trip then IP masking votes. Also, some cause for optimism would be the fact that I think that w/ Alexa rankings to check hit rates, we're probably seeing 20-25k votes at most on any one person daily, and likely less than that. I'm not technically adept enough, nor do I have the network resources to actually run a continuous vote program.

As for promoting this thing, I advise tech sites, lots of nerds and geeks (tens of thousands in places like Ars Technica, Slashdot and Boingboing) who would be intrigued on why a poker player would donate half of his winnings towards eSports. Seeding this first on clan sites for gaming, regardless of whether its for FPS or RTS would build a head of steam and awareness, then you can leak this to gaming sites, then tech will get in on the act. Just my two cents.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 26 2010 01:44 GMT
#504
Gonna bumb this, tournament is soon.
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lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
June 18 2010 01:52 GMT
#505
how did we not win. that is no votes at all!
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canucks12
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada812 Posts
June 18 2010 02:02 GMT
#506
D: He didn't get 5200 votes.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 19 2010 09:55 GMT
#507
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 19 2010 10:16 GMT
#508
Meh, looks like this would have been fairly easy to do even without any abuse... If every regular TL user got like 2-3 friends/family members to vote for rek that should have been enough.

If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 19 2010 10:20 GMT
#509
what the fukkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

how did we fail to do this??
5200 come on that should have been so easy
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FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
June 19 2010 10:45 GMT
#510
Am I the only one who thinks that the overall vote count was ridiculously low?

The voting was open for like MONTHS, and yet Phil Ivey wins with just over 16000 votes? I thought every random fanboy and his dog would have been in on this =/
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Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
June 19 2010 14:41 GMT
#511
Disgrace tbh, i don't get it.. This thread has 35k views, that means only every seventh viewer would have had to vote.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
June 19 2010 14:44 GMT
#512
I don't believe those numbers are accurate to be honest.
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Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
June 19 2010 15:03 GMT
#513
There are at least 2k people on TL at any time, this thread has tens of thousands of views, and the voting was open for months. I'm going to agree with Chill and say no way in hell.
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-19 15:08:23
June 19 2010 15:04 GMT
#514
nevermind
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