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Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
December 10 2009 01:13 GMT
#61
On December 10 2009 09:25 sS.NuB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2009 09:03 pubbanana wrote:
On December 10 2009 08:54 sS.NuB wrote:
You guys are real assholes to dead people -_-. Don't you have any respect?


It's very selective. I've seen several people make fun of famous people's deaths and then those same people turned around and bitched and whined when others made fun of a famous person who they liked.


And this guy is a nobody so your logic sucks.

and I care if anyone dies.. as long as its not George Bush/ Republican.


You are real asshole to dead Republicans -_-. Don't you have any respect?
DeathSpank
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1029 Posts
December 10 2009 01:19 GMT
#62
what a jaw breaker.
yes.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
December 10 2009 01:20 GMT
#63
In Russia, Gum kills you
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-10 01:31:22
December 10 2009 01:26 GMT
#64
On December 10 2009 10:04 ghostWriter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2009 09:46 meeple wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:42 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote:
Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.


On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote:
he bit off more than he could chew.


Looks like he's not the only biter.



On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote:
Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.

Ever hear of a chemical reaction?
yeahhhhh

Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate.
I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.


Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL
Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.


What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university. Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it. What helped the reaction to overcome the activation energy huh? The water? The chewing? Bombs have a blasting cap for a reason...

Hydrogen bombs are a horrible example of your point... there's obviously something that activated the bomb... Tell me what activated this bomb

Also I was just kidding about the especially clever stuff


Are you a freshman? Water is a stable substance for sure, but it's saliva in your mouth, not just water, with a lot of different elements in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium. And it's not like your mouth is a pool of water, there's only so much spit in there. It doesn't seem to say what the explosive is, but obviously the chewing helped overcome the activation energy. I forget what it is, but there are chemicals that explode if you just drop them. Also, have you ever heard of sodium? Go drop some sodium in a lake or look it up on youtube and tell me that explosives "work less well in water than outside out it".
Bombs do have blasting caps. Good point. Go look it up and after you learn that different chemicals have different properties, come back to this thread. Not all explosives are the same.

Hydrogen bombs are a great example. They have the capacity to explode but don't unless given enough activation energy. I don't know this off the top of my head, so I googled it but for mastication, the normal biting force is 100~150 Newtons. But it wasn't a bomb that blew off his jaw, it was an explosive. It seems that your money isn't wasted since you've learned so much in your classes apparently.


Are you a moron? Sure it has lots of other things, none of which are suitable for setting off an explosive. How could the chewing set it off but the jostling in his pocket not set it off, not much of a difference in energy input. Sodium is a extremely volatile substance that reacts with pretty much anything, including water, and its not even an explosive. Sodium and other alkaline metals have to be kept in oil to prevent it from reacting with anything else, and there's no way you could dip something into it unless you're on a fuckin stove. Different chemicals have different properties? Really genius, I didn't know that... but regardless of what explosive it is, you still need something to take it over that energy barrier, and don't say that the pressure from chewing can do that. Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion.

Hydrogen bombs are a shitty example because there's something to set them off. There's nothing to set a bomb off inside a persons mouth. Also, I restate that water reduces the effectiveness of an explosive, so if anything it would be more stable in your mouth.

From wiki:

Hygroscopicity and Water Resistance
The introduction of water into an explosive is highly undesirable since it reduces the sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation of the explosive. Hygroscopicity is used as a measure of a material's moisture-absorbing tendencies. Moisture affects explosives adversely by acting as an inert material that absorbs heat when vaporized, and by acting as a solvent medium that can cause undesired chemical reactions. Sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation are reduced by inert materials that reduce the continuity of the explosive mass.

Gunpowder is set off by shock from the gun's hammer hitting the primer, which explodes and sets off the gunpowder, so that example makes no sense here
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-10 01:35:37
December 10 2009 01:28 GMT
#65
On December 10 2009 10:26 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2009 10:04 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:46 meeple wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:42 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote:
Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.


On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote:
he bit off more than he could chew.


Looks like he's not the only biter.



On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote:
Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.

Ever hear of a chemical reaction?
yeahhhhh

Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate.
I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.


Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL
Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.


What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university. Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it. What helped the reaction to overcome the activation energy huh? The water? The chewing? Bombs have a blasting cap for a reason...

Hydrogen bombs are a horrible example of your point... there's obviously something that activated the bomb... Tell me what activated this bomb

Also I was just kidding about the especially clever stuff


Are you a freshman? Water is a stable substance for sure, but it's saliva in your mouth, not just water, with a lot of different elements in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium. And it's not like your mouth is a pool of water, there's only so much spit in there. It doesn't seem to say what the explosive is, but obviously the chewing helped overcome the activation energy. I forget what it is, but there are chemicals that explode if you just drop them. Also, have you ever heard of sodium? Go drop some sodium in a lake or look it up on youtube and tell me that explosives "work less well in water than outside out it".
Bombs do have blasting caps. Good point. Go look it up and after you learn that different chemicals have different properties, come back to this thread. Not all explosives are the same.

Hydrogen bombs are a great example. They have the capacity to explode but don't unless given enough activation energy. I don't know this off the top of my head, so I googled it but for mastication, the normal biting force is 100~150 Newtons. But it wasn't a bomb that blew off his jaw, it was an explosive. It seems that your money isn't wasted since you've learned so much in your classes apparently.


Are you a moron? Sure it has lots of other things, none of which are suitable for setting off an explosive. How could the chewing set it off but the jostling in his pocket not set it off, not much of a difference in energy input. Sodium is a extremely volatile substance that reacts with pretty much anything, including water, and its not even an explosive. Sodium and other alkaline metals have to be kept in oil to prevent it from reacting with anything else, and there's no way you could dip something into it unless you're on a fuckin stove. Different chemicals have different properties? Really genius, I didn't know that... but regardless of what explosive it is, you still need something to take it over that energy barrier, and don't say that the pressure from chewing can do that. Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion.

Hydrogen bombs are a shitty example because there's something to set them off. There's nothing to set a bomb off inside a persons mouth. Also, I restate that water reduces the effectiveness of an explosive, so if anything it would be more stable in your mouth.

From wiki:

Show nested quote +
Hygroscopicity and Water Resistance
The introduction of water into an explosive is highly undesirable since it reduces the sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation of the explosive. Hygroscopicity is used as a measure of a material's moisture-absorbing tendencies. Moisture affects explosives adversely by acting as an inert material that absorbs heat when vaporized, and by acting as a solvent medium that can cause undesired chemical reactions. Sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation are reduced by inert materials that reduce the continuity of the explosive mass.


You aren't impressing anyone with your insults and your assumptions. Calling me an idiot when I'm obviously not doesn't make me any dumber, nor does it make you look smarter. I repeat, there is not that much water in your mouth. It's not like you're soaking explosives in a beaker. And large pieces of sodium DO explode in water. "I'm studying chemistry in university." Are you really studying?

Ukraine - A Ukrainian chemistry student who had the bizarre habit of chewing gum after dipping it in citric acid, has been found dead with his jaw blown off.

The student's jaw was believed to be blown off by exploding chewing gum.

Officers found citric acid packets and a similar-looking unidentified substance, believed to be some kind of explosive material, on a table near the 25-year-old's body, Russian news agency Ria Novosti said.

Investigators suspect the student confused the packets and put gum covered with explosive material into his mouth.


Where does it say anything about him putting the explosive in his pocket? I didn't say that he put sodium in his mouth, it was an example kiddo. Don't get so defensive just because you don't know that much.

"Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion. "

Tell that to his jaw.
Sullifam
DeathSpank
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1029 Posts
December 10 2009 01:30 GMT
#66
On December 10 2009 10:28 ghostWriter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2009 10:26 meeple wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:04 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:46 meeple wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:42 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote:
Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.


On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote:
he bit off more than he could chew.


Looks like he's not the only biter.



On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote:
Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.

Ever hear of a chemical reaction?
yeahhhhh

Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate.
I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.


Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL
Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.


What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university. Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it. What helped the reaction to overcome the activation energy huh? The water? The chewing? Bombs have a blasting cap for a reason...

Hydrogen bombs are a horrible example of your point... there's obviously something that activated the bomb... Tell me what activated this bomb

Also I was just kidding about the especially clever stuff


Are you a freshman? Water is a stable substance for sure, but it's saliva in your mouth, not just water, with a lot of different elements in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium. And it's not like your mouth is a pool of water, there's only so much spit in there. It doesn't seem to say what the explosive is, but obviously the chewing helped overcome the activation energy. I forget what it is, but there are chemicals that explode if you just drop them. Also, have you ever heard of sodium? Go drop some sodium in a lake or look it up on youtube and tell me that explosives "work less well in water than outside out it".
Bombs do have blasting caps. Good point. Go look it up and after you learn that different chemicals have different properties, come back to this thread. Not all explosives are the same.

Hydrogen bombs are a great example. They have the capacity to explode but don't unless given enough activation energy. I don't know this off the top of my head, so I googled it but for mastication, the normal biting force is 100~150 Newtons. But it wasn't a bomb that blew off his jaw, it was an explosive. It seems that your money isn't wasted since you've learned so much in your classes apparently.


Are you a moron? Sure it has lots of other things, none of which are suitable for setting off an explosive. How could the chewing set it off but the jostling in his pocket not set it off, not much of a difference in energy input. Sodium is a extremely volatile substance that reacts with pretty much anything, including water, and its not even an explosive. Sodium and other alkaline metals have to be kept in oil to prevent it from reacting with anything else, and there's no way you could dip something into it unless you're on a fuckin stove. Different chemicals have different properties? Really genius, I didn't know that... but regardless of what explosive it is, you still need something to take it over that energy barrier, and don't say that the pressure from chewing can do that. Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion.

Hydrogen bombs are a shitty example because there's something to set them off. There's nothing to set a bomb off inside a persons mouth. Also, I restate that water reduces the effectiveness of an explosive, so if anything it would be more stable in your mouth.

From wiki:

Hygroscopicity and Water Resistance
The introduction of water into an explosive is highly undesirable since it reduces the sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation of the explosive. Hygroscopicity is used as a measure of a material's moisture-absorbing tendencies. Moisture affects explosives adversely by acting as an inert material that absorbs heat when vaporized, and by acting as a solvent medium that can cause undesired chemical reactions. Sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation are reduced by inert materials that reduce the continuity of the explosive mass.


You aren't impressing anyone with your insults and your assumptions. Calling me an idiot doesn't make me any dumber, nor does it make you look smarter.


but you are arguing with someone you obviously think is an idiot does
yes.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
December 10 2009 01:31 GMT
#67
This news calls for the Bisu face. Minus the jaw.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
December 10 2009 01:32 GMT
#68
On December 10 2009 10:30 DeathSpank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2009 10:28 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:26 meeple wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:04 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:46 meeple wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:42 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote:
Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.


On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote:
he bit off more than he could chew.


Looks like he's not the only biter.



On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote:
Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.

Ever hear of a chemical reaction?
yeahhhhh

Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate.
I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.


Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL
Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.


What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university. Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it. What helped the reaction to overcome the activation energy huh? The water? The chewing? Bombs have a blasting cap for a reason...

Hydrogen bombs are a horrible example of your point... there's obviously something that activated the bomb... Tell me what activated this bomb

Also I was just kidding about the especially clever stuff


Are you a freshman? Water is a stable substance for sure, but it's saliva in your mouth, not just water, with a lot of different elements in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium. And it's not like your mouth is a pool of water, there's only so much spit in there. It doesn't seem to say what the explosive is, but obviously the chewing helped overcome the activation energy. I forget what it is, but there are chemicals that explode if you just drop them. Also, have you ever heard of sodium? Go drop some sodium in a lake or look it up on youtube and tell me that explosives "work less well in water than outside out it".
Bombs do have blasting caps. Good point. Go look it up and after you learn that different chemicals have different properties, come back to this thread. Not all explosives are the same.

Hydrogen bombs are a great example. They have the capacity to explode but don't unless given enough activation energy. I don't know this off the top of my head, so I googled it but for mastication, the normal biting force is 100~150 Newtons. But it wasn't a bomb that blew off his jaw, it was an explosive. It seems that your money isn't wasted since you've learned so much in your classes apparently.


Are you a moron? Sure it has lots of other things, none of which are suitable for setting off an explosive. How could the chewing set it off but the jostling in his pocket not set it off, not much of a difference in energy input. Sodium is a extremely volatile substance that reacts with pretty much anything, including water, and its not even an explosive. Sodium and other alkaline metals have to be kept in oil to prevent it from reacting with anything else, and there's no way you could dip something into it unless you're on a fuckin stove. Different chemicals have different properties? Really genius, I didn't know that... but regardless of what explosive it is, you still need something to take it over that energy barrier, and don't say that the pressure from chewing can do that. Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion.

Hydrogen bombs are a shitty example because there's something to set them off. There's nothing to set a bomb off inside a persons mouth. Also, I restate that water reduces the effectiveness of an explosive, so if anything it would be more stable in your mouth.

From wiki:

Hygroscopicity and Water Resistance
The introduction of water into an explosive is highly undesirable since it reduces the sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation of the explosive. Hygroscopicity is used as a measure of a material's moisture-absorbing tendencies. Moisture affects explosives adversely by acting as an inert material that absorbs heat when vaporized, and by acting as a solvent medium that can cause undesired chemical reactions. Sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation are reduced by inert materials that reduce the continuity of the explosive mass.


You aren't impressing anyone with your insults and your assumptions. Calling me an idiot doesn't make me any dumber, nor does it make you look smarter.


but you are arguing with someone you obviously think is an idiot does


I'm not arguing, I'm explaining.
Sullifam
DeathSpank
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1029 Posts
December 10 2009 01:35 GMT
#69
On December 10 2009 10:32 ghostWriter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2009 10:30 DeathSpank wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:28 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:26 meeple wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:04 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:46 meeple wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:42 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote:
Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.


On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote:
he bit off more than he could chew.


Looks like he's not the only biter.



On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote:
Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.

Ever hear of a chemical reaction?
yeahhhhh

Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate.
I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.


Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL
Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.


What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university. Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it. What helped the reaction to overcome the activation energy huh? The water? The chewing? Bombs have a blasting cap for a reason...

Hydrogen bombs are a horrible example of your point... there's obviously something that activated the bomb... Tell me what activated this bomb

Also I was just kidding about the especially clever stuff


Are you a freshman? Water is a stable substance for sure, but it's saliva in your mouth, not just water, with a lot of different elements in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium. And it's not like your mouth is a pool of water, there's only so much spit in there. It doesn't seem to say what the explosive is, but obviously the chewing helped overcome the activation energy. I forget what it is, but there are chemicals that explode if you just drop them. Also, have you ever heard of sodium? Go drop some sodium in a lake or look it up on youtube and tell me that explosives "work less well in water than outside out it".
Bombs do have blasting caps. Good point. Go look it up and after you learn that different chemicals have different properties, come back to this thread. Not all explosives are the same.

Hydrogen bombs are a great example. They have the capacity to explode but don't unless given enough activation energy. I don't know this off the top of my head, so I googled it but for mastication, the normal biting force is 100~150 Newtons. But it wasn't a bomb that blew off his jaw, it was an explosive. It seems that your money isn't wasted since you've learned so much in your classes apparently.


Are you a moron? Sure it has lots of other things, none of which are suitable for setting off an explosive. How could the chewing set it off but the jostling in his pocket not set it off, not much of a difference in energy input. Sodium is a extremely volatile substance that reacts with pretty much anything, including water, and its not even an explosive. Sodium and other alkaline metals have to be kept in oil to prevent it from reacting with anything else, and there's no way you could dip something into it unless you're on a fuckin stove. Different chemicals have different properties? Really genius, I didn't know that... but regardless of what explosive it is, you still need something to take it over that energy barrier, and don't say that the pressure from chewing can do that. Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion.

Hydrogen bombs are a shitty example because there's something to set them off. There's nothing to set a bomb off inside a persons mouth. Also, I restate that water reduces the effectiveness of an explosive, so if anything it would be more stable in your mouth.

From wiki:

Hygroscopicity and Water Resistance
The introduction of water into an explosive is highly undesirable since it reduces the sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation of the explosive. Hygroscopicity is used as a measure of a material's moisture-absorbing tendencies. Moisture affects explosives adversely by acting as an inert material that absorbs heat when vaporized, and by acting as a solvent medium that can cause undesired chemical reactions. Sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation are reduced by inert materials that reduce the continuity of the explosive mass.


You aren't impressing anyone with your insults and your assumptions. Calling me an idiot doesn't make me any dumber, nor does it make you look smarter.


but you are arguing with someone you obviously think is an idiot does


I'm not arguing, I'm explaining.

No you're arguing
yes.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
December 10 2009 01:36 GMT
#70
On December 10 2009 08:54 sS.NuB wrote:
You guys are real assholes to dead people -_-. Don't you have any respect?


I don't freaking know him so..no I really don't bro. Sorry.
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ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
December 10 2009 01:36 GMT
#71
On December 10 2009 10:35 DeathSpank wrote:
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On December 10 2009 10:32 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:30 DeathSpank wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:28 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:26 meeple wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:04 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:46 meeple wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:42 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote:
Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.


On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote:
he bit off more than he could chew.


Looks like he's not the only biter.



On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote:
Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.

Ever hear of a chemical reaction?
yeahhhhh

Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate.
I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.


Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL
Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.


What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university. Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it. What helped the reaction to overcome the activation energy huh? The water? The chewing? Bombs have a blasting cap for a reason...

Hydrogen bombs are a horrible example of your point... there's obviously something that activated the bomb... Tell me what activated this bomb

Also I was just kidding about the especially clever stuff


Are you a freshman? Water is a stable substance for sure, but it's saliva in your mouth, not just water, with a lot of different elements in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium. And it's not like your mouth is a pool of water, there's only so much spit in there. It doesn't seem to say what the explosive is, but obviously the chewing helped overcome the activation energy. I forget what it is, but there are chemicals that explode if you just drop them. Also, have you ever heard of sodium? Go drop some sodium in a lake or look it up on youtube and tell me that explosives "work less well in water than outside out it".
Bombs do have blasting caps. Good point. Go look it up and after you learn that different chemicals have different properties, come back to this thread. Not all explosives are the same.

Hydrogen bombs are a great example. They have the capacity to explode but don't unless given enough activation energy. I don't know this off the top of my head, so I googled it but for mastication, the normal biting force is 100~150 Newtons. But it wasn't a bomb that blew off his jaw, it was an explosive. It seems that your money isn't wasted since you've learned so much in your classes apparently.


Are you a moron? Sure it has lots of other things, none of which are suitable for setting off an explosive. How could the chewing set it off but the jostling in his pocket not set it off, not much of a difference in energy input. Sodium is a extremely volatile substance that reacts with pretty much anything, including water, and its not even an explosive. Sodium and other alkaline metals have to be kept in oil to prevent it from reacting with anything else, and there's no way you could dip something into it unless you're on a fuckin stove. Different chemicals have different properties? Really genius, I didn't know that... but regardless of what explosive it is, you still need something to take it over that energy barrier, and don't say that the pressure from chewing can do that. Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion.

Hydrogen bombs are a shitty example because there's something to set them off. There's nothing to set a bomb off inside a persons mouth. Also, I restate that water reduces the effectiveness of an explosive, so if anything it would be more stable in your mouth.

From wiki:

Hygroscopicity and Water Resistance
The introduction of water into an explosive is highly undesirable since it reduces the sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation of the explosive. Hygroscopicity is used as a measure of a material's moisture-absorbing tendencies. Moisture affects explosives adversely by acting as an inert material that absorbs heat when vaporized, and by acting as a solvent medium that can cause undesired chemical reactions. Sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation are reduced by inert materials that reduce the continuity of the explosive mass.


You aren't impressing anyone with your insults and your assumptions. Calling me an idiot doesn't make me any dumber, nor does it make you look smarter.


but you are arguing with someone you obviously think is an idiot does


I'm not arguing, I'm explaining.

No you're arguing


You are attempting to argue.
Sullifam
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 10 2009 01:37 GMT
#72
On December 10 2009 10:28 ghostWriter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2009 10:26 meeple wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:04 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:46 meeple wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:42 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote:
Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.


On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote:
he bit off more than he could chew.


Looks like he's not the only biter.



On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote:
Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.

Ever hear of a chemical reaction?
yeahhhhh

Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate.
I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.


Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL
Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.


What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university. Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it. What helped the reaction to overcome the activation energy huh? The water? The chewing? Bombs have a blasting cap for a reason...

Hydrogen bombs are a horrible example of your point... there's obviously something that activated the bomb... Tell me what activated this bomb

Also I was just kidding about the especially clever stuff


Are you a freshman? Water is a stable substance for sure, but it's saliva in your mouth, not just water, with a lot of different elements in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium. And it's not like your mouth is a pool of water, there's only so much spit in there. It doesn't seem to say what the explosive is, but obviously the chewing helped overcome the activation energy. I forget what it is, but there are chemicals that explode if you just drop them. Also, have you ever heard of sodium? Go drop some sodium in a lake or look it up on youtube and tell me that explosives "work less well in water than outside out it".
Bombs do have blasting caps. Good point. Go look it up and after you learn that different chemicals have different properties, come back to this thread. Not all explosives are the same.

Hydrogen bombs are a great example. They have the capacity to explode but don't unless given enough activation energy. I don't know this off the top of my head, so I googled it but for mastication, the normal biting force is 100~150 Newtons. But it wasn't a bomb that blew off his jaw, it was an explosive. It seems that your money isn't wasted since you've learned so much in your classes apparently.


Are you a moron? Sure it has lots of other things, none of which are suitable for setting off an explosive. How could the chewing set it off but the jostling in his pocket not set it off, not much of a difference in energy input. Sodium is a extremely volatile substance that reacts with pretty much anything, including water, and its not even an explosive. Sodium and other alkaline metals have to be kept in oil to prevent it from reacting with anything else, and there's no way you could dip something into it unless you're on a fuckin stove. Different chemicals have different properties? Really genius, I didn't know that... but regardless of what explosive it is, you still need something to take it over that energy barrier, and don't say that the pressure from chewing can do that. Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion.

Hydrogen bombs are a shitty example because there's something to set them off. There's nothing to set a bomb off inside a persons mouth. Also, I restate that water reduces the effectiveness of an explosive, so if anything it would be more stable in your mouth.

From wiki:

Hygroscopicity and Water Resistance
The introduction of water into an explosive is highly undesirable since it reduces the sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation of the explosive. Hygroscopicity is used as a measure of a material's moisture-absorbing tendencies. Moisture affects explosives adversely by acting as an inert material that absorbs heat when vaporized, and by acting as a solvent medium that can cause undesired chemical reactions. Sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation are reduced by inert materials that reduce the continuity of the explosive mass.


You aren't impressing anyone with your insults and your assumptions. Calling me an idiot when I'm obviously not doesn't make me any dumber, nor does it make you look smarter.

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Ukraine - A Ukrainian chemistry student who had the bizarre habit of chewing gum after dipping it in citric acid, has been found dead with his jaw blown off.

The student's jaw was believed to be blown off by exploding chewing gum.

Officers found citric acid packets and a similar-looking unidentified substance, believed to be some kind of explosive material, on a table near the 25-year-old's body, Russian news agency Ria Novosti said.

Investigators suspect the student confused the packets and put gum covered with explosive material into his mouth.


Where does it say anything about him putting the explosive in his pocket? I didn't say that he put sodium in his mouth, it was an example kiddo. Don't get so defensive just because you don't know that much.

"Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion. "

Tell that to his jaw.


If he confused the packets, he obviously moved it sometime, and that movement is similar to the movement of the explosive in his mouth. I'm saying the story as it is, is faulty. It could very well be true, but there's something that they're not saying.

If his gum exploded, it wasn't because he dipped it in explosives and put it in his mouth
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-10 01:43:51
December 10 2009 01:41 GMT
#73
On December 10 2009 10:37 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2009 10:28 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:26 meeple wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:04 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:46 meeple wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:42 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote:
Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.


On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote:
he bit off more than he could chew.


Looks like he's not the only biter.



On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote:
Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.

Ever hear of a chemical reaction?
yeahhhhh

Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate.
I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.


Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL
Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.


What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university. Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it. What helped the reaction to overcome the activation energy huh? The water? The chewing? Bombs have a blasting cap for a reason...

Hydrogen bombs are a horrible example of your point... there's obviously something that activated the bomb... Tell me what activated this bomb

Also I was just kidding about the especially clever stuff


Are you a freshman? Water is a stable substance for sure, but it's saliva in your mouth, not just water, with a lot of different elements in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium. And it's not like your mouth is a pool of water, there's only so much spit in there. It doesn't seem to say what the explosive is, but obviously the chewing helped overcome the activation energy. I forget what it is, but there are chemicals that explode if you just drop them. Also, have you ever heard of sodium? Go drop some sodium in a lake or look it up on youtube and tell me that explosives "work less well in water than outside out it".
Bombs do have blasting caps. Good point. Go look it up and after you learn that different chemicals have different properties, come back to this thread. Not all explosives are the same.

Hydrogen bombs are a great example. They have the capacity to explode but don't unless given enough activation energy. I don't know this off the top of my head, so I googled it but for mastication, the normal biting force is 100~150 Newtons. But it wasn't a bomb that blew off his jaw, it was an explosive. It seems that your money isn't wasted since you've learned so much in your classes apparently.


Are you a moron? Sure it has lots of other things, none of which are suitable for setting off an explosive. How could the chewing set it off but the jostling in his pocket not set it off, not much of a difference in energy input. Sodium is a extremely volatile substance that reacts with pretty much anything, including water, and its not even an explosive. Sodium and other alkaline metals have to be kept in oil to prevent it from reacting with anything else, and there's no way you could dip something into it unless you're on a fuckin stove. Different chemicals have different properties? Really genius, I didn't know that... but regardless of what explosive it is, you still need something to take it over that energy barrier, and don't say that the pressure from chewing can do that. Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion.

Hydrogen bombs are a shitty example because there's something to set them off. There's nothing to set a bomb off inside a persons mouth. Also, I restate that water reduces the effectiveness of an explosive, so if anything it would be more stable in your mouth.

From wiki:

Hygroscopicity and Water Resistance
The introduction of water into an explosive is highly undesirable since it reduces the sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation of the explosive. Hygroscopicity is used as a measure of a material's moisture-absorbing tendencies. Moisture affects explosives adversely by acting as an inert material that absorbs heat when vaporized, and by acting as a solvent medium that can cause undesired chemical reactions. Sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation are reduced by inert materials that reduce the continuity of the explosive mass.


You aren't impressing anyone with your insults and your assumptions. Calling me an idiot when I'm obviously not doesn't make me any dumber, nor does it make you look smarter.

Ukraine - A Ukrainian chemistry student who had the bizarre habit of chewing gum after dipping it in citric acid, has been found dead with his jaw blown off.

The student's jaw was believed to be blown off by exploding chewing gum.

Officers found citric acid packets and a similar-looking unidentified substance, believed to be some kind of explosive material, on a table near the 25-year-old's body, Russian news agency Ria Novosti said.

Investigators suspect the student confused the packets and put gum covered with explosive material into his mouth.


Where does it say anything about him putting the explosive in his pocket? I didn't say that he put sodium in his mouth, it was an example kiddo. Don't get so defensive just because you don't know that much.

"Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion. "

Tell that to his jaw.


If he confused the packets, he obviously moved it sometime, and that movement is similar to the movement of the explosive in his mouth. I'm saying the story as it is, is faulty. It could very well be true, but there's something that they're not saying.

If his gum exploded, it wasn't because he dipped it in explosives and put it in his mouth


It's not exactly a dissertation but moving something with your hands and chewing something do not generate the same amount of force. The two movements are not similar.

Explain to me why his gum couldn't have exploded from chewing. Does your mouth not generate force as you chew? Is there not pressure applied to the explosive?
Sullifam
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 10 2009 01:43 GMT
#74
On December 10 2009 10:41 ghostWriter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2009 10:37 meeple wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:28 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:26 meeple wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:04 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:46 meeple wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:42 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote:
Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.


On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote:
he bit off more than he could chew.


Looks like he's not the only biter.



On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote:
Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.

Ever hear of a chemical reaction?
yeahhhhh

Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate.
I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.


Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL
Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.


What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university. Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it. What helped the reaction to overcome the activation energy huh? The water? The chewing? Bombs have a blasting cap for a reason...

Hydrogen bombs are a horrible example of your point... there's obviously something that activated the bomb... Tell me what activated this bomb

Also I was just kidding about the especially clever stuff


Are you a freshman? Water is a stable substance for sure, but it's saliva in your mouth, not just water, with a lot of different elements in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium. And it's not like your mouth is a pool of water, there's only so much spit in there. It doesn't seem to say what the explosive is, but obviously the chewing helped overcome the activation energy. I forget what it is, but there are chemicals that explode if you just drop them. Also, have you ever heard of sodium? Go drop some sodium in a lake or look it up on youtube and tell me that explosives "work less well in water than outside out it".
Bombs do have blasting caps. Good point. Go look it up and after you learn that different chemicals have different properties, come back to this thread. Not all explosives are the same.

Hydrogen bombs are a great example. They have the capacity to explode but don't unless given enough activation energy. I don't know this off the top of my head, so I googled it but for mastication, the normal biting force is 100~150 Newtons. But it wasn't a bomb that blew off his jaw, it was an explosive. It seems that your money isn't wasted since you've learned so much in your classes apparently.


Are you a moron? Sure it has lots of other things, none of which are suitable for setting off an explosive. How could the chewing set it off but the jostling in his pocket not set it off, not much of a difference in energy input. Sodium is a extremely volatile substance that reacts with pretty much anything, including water, and its not even an explosive. Sodium and other alkaline metals have to be kept in oil to prevent it from reacting with anything else, and there's no way you could dip something into it unless you're on a fuckin stove. Different chemicals have different properties? Really genius, I didn't know that... but regardless of what explosive it is, you still need something to take it over that energy barrier, and don't say that the pressure from chewing can do that. Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion.

Hydrogen bombs are a shitty example because there's something to set them off. There's nothing to set a bomb off inside a persons mouth. Also, I restate that water reduces the effectiveness of an explosive, so if anything it would be more stable in your mouth.

From wiki:

Hygroscopicity and Water Resistance
The introduction of water into an explosive is highly undesirable since it reduces the sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation of the explosive. Hygroscopicity is used as a measure of a material's moisture-absorbing tendencies. Moisture affects explosives adversely by acting as an inert material that absorbs heat when vaporized, and by acting as a solvent medium that can cause undesired chemical reactions. Sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation are reduced by inert materials that reduce the continuity of the explosive mass.


You aren't impressing anyone with your insults and your assumptions. Calling me an idiot when I'm obviously not doesn't make me any dumber, nor does it make you look smarter.

Ukraine - A Ukrainian chemistry student who had the bizarre habit of chewing gum after dipping it in citric acid, has been found dead with his jaw blown off.

The student's jaw was believed to be blown off by exploding chewing gum.

Officers found citric acid packets and a similar-looking unidentified substance, believed to be some kind of explosive material, on a table near the 25-year-old's body, Russian news agency Ria Novosti said.

Investigators suspect the student confused the packets and put gum covered with explosive material into his mouth.


Where does it say anything about him putting the explosive in his pocket? I didn't say that he put sodium in his mouth, it was an example kiddo. Don't get so defensive just because you don't know that much.

"Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion. "

Tell that to his jaw.


If he confused the packets, he obviously moved it sometime, and that movement is similar to the movement of the explosive in his mouth. I'm saying the story as it is, is faulty. It could very well be true, but there's something that they're not saying.

If his gum exploded, it wasn't because he dipped it in explosives and put it in his mouth


It's not exactly a dissertation but moving something with your hands and chewing something do not generate the same amount of force. The two movements are not similar.

Explain to me why his gum didn't explode from chewing.


Because there's nothing that can set it off? Force doesn't matter here, its shock. There's very little shock applied to the explosive from your jaw, similar to jostling the package.
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-10 01:49:30
December 10 2009 01:46 GMT
#75
On December 10 2009 10:43 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2009 10:41 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:37 meeple wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:28 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:26 meeple wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:04 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:46 meeple wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:42 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote:
Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.


On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote:
he bit off more than he could chew.


Looks like he's not the only biter.



On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote:
Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.

Ever hear of a chemical reaction?
yeahhhhh

Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate.
I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.


Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL
Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.


What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university. Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it. What helped the reaction to overcome the activation energy huh? The water? The chewing? Bombs have a blasting cap for a reason...

Hydrogen bombs are a horrible example of your point... there's obviously something that activated the bomb... Tell me what activated this bomb

Also I was just kidding about the especially clever stuff


Are you a freshman? Water is a stable substance for sure, but it's saliva in your mouth, not just water, with a lot of different elements in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium. And it's not like your mouth is a pool of water, there's only so much spit in there. It doesn't seem to say what the explosive is, but obviously the chewing helped overcome the activation energy. I forget what it is, but there are chemicals that explode if you just drop them. Also, have you ever heard of sodium? Go drop some sodium in a lake or look it up on youtube and tell me that explosives "work less well in water than outside out it".
Bombs do have blasting caps. Good point. Go look it up and after you learn that different chemicals have different properties, come back to this thread. Not all explosives are the same.

Hydrogen bombs are a great example. They have the capacity to explode but don't unless given enough activation energy. I don't know this off the top of my head, so I googled it but for mastication, the normal biting force is 100~150 Newtons. But it wasn't a bomb that blew off his jaw, it was an explosive. It seems that your money isn't wasted since you've learned so much in your classes apparently.


Are you a moron? Sure it has lots of other things, none of which are suitable for setting off an explosive. How could the chewing set it off but the jostling in his pocket not set it off, not much of a difference in energy input. Sodium is a extremely volatile substance that reacts with pretty much anything, including water, and its not even an explosive. Sodium and other alkaline metals have to be kept in oil to prevent it from reacting with anything else, and there's no way you could dip something into it unless you're on a fuckin stove. Different chemicals have different properties? Really genius, I didn't know that... but regardless of what explosive it is, you still need something to take it over that energy barrier, and don't say that the pressure from chewing can do that. Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion.

Hydrogen bombs are a shitty example because there's something to set them off. There's nothing to set a bomb off inside a persons mouth. Also, I restate that water reduces the effectiveness of an explosive, so if anything it would be more stable in your mouth.

From wiki:

Hygroscopicity and Water Resistance
The introduction of water into an explosive is highly undesirable since it reduces the sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation of the explosive. Hygroscopicity is used as a measure of a material's moisture-absorbing tendencies. Moisture affects explosives adversely by acting as an inert material that absorbs heat when vaporized, and by acting as a solvent medium that can cause undesired chemical reactions. Sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation are reduced by inert materials that reduce the continuity of the explosive mass.


You aren't impressing anyone with your insults and your assumptions. Calling me an idiot when I'm obviously not doesn't make me any dumber, nor does it make you look smarter.

Ukraine - A Ukrainian chemistry student who had the bizarre habit of chewing gum after dipping it in citric acid, has been found dead with his jaw blown off.

The student's jaw was believed to be blown off by exploding chewing gum.

Officers found citric acid packets and a similar-looking unidentified substance, believed to be some kind of explosive material, on a table near the 25-year-old's body, Russian news agency Ria Novosti said.

Investigators suspect the student confused the packets and put gum covered with explosive material into his mouth.


Where does it say anything about him putting the explosive in his pocket? I didn't say that he put sodium in his mouth, it was an example kiddo. Don't get so defensive just because you don't know that much.

"Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion. "

Tell that to his jaw.


If he confused the packets, he obviously moved it sometime, and that movement is similar to the movement of the explosive in his mouth. I'm saying the story as it is, is faulty. It could very well be true, but there's something that they're not saying.

If his gum exploded, it wasn't because he dipped it in explosives and put it in his mouth


It's not exactly a dissertation but moving something with your hands and chewing something do not generate the same amount of force. The two movements are not similar.

Explain to me why his gum didn't explode from chewing.


Because there's nothing that can set it off? Force doesn't matter here, its shock. There's very little shock applied to the explosive from your jaw, similar to jostling the package.


By all means, explain this "shock" to me. What is the scientific definition of shock and explain why it matters and force doesn't. Are you a freshman? How chemistry and physics courses have you taken?
Sullifam
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
December 10 2009 01:48 GMT
#76
hahaha
sorry this is just funny
sooo many puns for this one
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meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 10 2009 01:50 GMT
#77
On December 10 2009 10:46 ghostWriter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2009 10:43 meeple wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:41 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:37 meeple wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:28 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:26 meeple wrote:
On December 10 2009 10:04 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:46 meeple wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:42 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote:
Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.


On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote:
he bit off more than he could chew.


Looks like he's not the only biter.



On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
[quote]
Ever hear of a chemical reaction?
yeahhhhh

Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate.
I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.


Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL
Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.


What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university. Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it. What helped the reaction to overcome the activation energy huh? The water? The chewing? Bombs have a blasting cap for a reason...

Hydrogen bombs are a horrible example of your point... there's obviously something that activated the bomb... Tell me what activated this bomb

Also I was just kidding about the especially clever stuff


Are you a freshman? Water is a stable substance for sure, but it's saliva in your mouth, not just water, with a lot of different elements in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium. And it's not like your mouth is a pool of water, there's only so much spit in there. It doesn't seem to say what the explosive is, but obviously the chewing helped overcome the activation energy. I forget what it is, but there are chemicals that explode if you just drop them. Also, have you ever heard of sodium? Go drop some sodium in a lake or look it up on youtube and tell me that explosives "work less well in water than outside out it".
Bombs do have blasting caps. Good point. Go look it up and after you learn that different chemicals have different properties, come back to this thread. Not all explosives are the same.

Hydrogen bombs are a great example. They have the capacity to explode but don't unless given enough activation energy. I don't know this off the top of my head, so I googled it but for mastication, the normal biting force is 100~150 Newtons. But it wasn't a bomb that blew off his jaw, it was an explosive. It seems that your money isn't wasted since you've learned so much in your classes apparently.


Are you a moron? Sure it has lots of other things, none of which are suitable for setting off an explosive. How could the chewing set it off but the jostling in his pocket not set it off, not much of a difference in energy input. Sodium is a extremely volatile substance that reacts with pretty much anything, including water, and its not even an explosive. Sodium and other alkaline metals have to be kept in oil to prevent it from reacting with anything else, and there's no way you could dip something into it unless you're on a fuckin stove. Different chemicals have different properties? Really genius, I didn't know that... but regardless of what explosive it is, you still need something to take it over that energy barrier, and don't say that the pressure from chewing can do that. Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion.

Hydrogen bombs are a shitty example because there's something to set them off. There's nothing to set a bomb off inside a persons mouth. Also, I restate that water reduces the effectiveness of an explosive, so if anything it would be more stable in your mouth.

From wiki:

Hygroscopicity and Water Resistance
The introduction of water into an explosive is highly undesirable since it reduces the sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation of the explosive. Hygroscopicity is used as a measure of a material's moisture-absorbing tendencies. Moisture affects explosives adversely by acting as an inert material that absorbs heat when vaporized, and by acting as a solvent medium that can cause undesired chemical reactions. Sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation are reduced by inert materials that reduce the continuity of the explosive mass.


You aren't impressing anyone with your insults and your assumptions. Calling me an idiot when I'm obviously not doesn't make me any dumber, nor does it make you look smarter.

Ukraine - A Ukrainian chemistry student who had the bizarre habit of chewing gum after dipping it in citric acid, has been found dead with his jaw blown off.

The student's jaw was believed to be blown off by exploding chewing gum.

Officers found citric acid packets and a similar-looking unidentified substance, believed to be some kind of explosive material, on a table near the 25-year-old's body, Russian news agency Ria Novosti said.

Investigators suspect the student confused the packets and put gum covered with explosive material into his mouth.


Where does it say anything about him putting the explosive in his pocket? I didn't say that he put sodium in his mouth, it was an example kiddo. Don't get so defensive just because you don't know that much.

"Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion. "

Tell that to his jaw.


If he confused the packets, he obviously moved it sometime, and that movement is similar to the movement of the explosive in his mouth. I'm saying the story as it is, is faulty. It could very well be true, but there's something that they're not saying.

If his gum exploded, it wasn't because he dipped it in explosives and put it in his mouth


It's not exactly a dissertation but moving something with your hands and chewing something do not generate the same amount of force. The two movements are not similar.

Explain to me why his gum didn't explode from chewing.


Because there's nothing that can set it off? Force doesn't matter here, its shock. There's very little shock applied to the explosive from your jaw, similar to jostling the package.


By all means, explain this shock to me. What is the scientific definition of shock and explain why it matters and force doesn't. Are you a freshman?


Shock matters more than force/pressure because the slow application of force/pressure is dispersed through molecular rearrangements. With the quick application of mechanical shock, the energy doesn't have a chance to disperse and as a result the substance has a lot more energy, energy that it uses to overcome the activation barrier for the explosive.
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December 10 2009 01:50 GMT
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Actually...your teeth coming together generates a lot more force than simple jostling in your pocket. Your jaw is able to generate a lot of force in closing. Too bad that didn't help this guy, because his jaw was up against an explosive? I dunno. You guys are better at weird references to jaws and explosives than me.
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