Ukraine - A Ukrainian chemistry student who had the bizarre habit of chewing gum after dipping it in citric acid, has been found dead with his jaw blown off.
The student's jaw was believed to be blown off by exploding chewing gum.
Officers found citric acid packets and a similar-looking unidentified substance, believed to be some kind of explosive material, on a table near the 25-year-old's body, Russian news agency Ria Novosti said.
Investigators suspect the student confused the packets and put gum covered with explosive material into his mouth.
On December 10 2009 08:54 sS.NuB wrote: You guys are real assholes to dead people -_-. Don't you have any respect?
It's very selective. I've seen several people make fun of famous people's deaths and then those same people turned around and bitched and whined when others made fun of a famous person who they liked.
I say it's a murder. In order to create perfect alibi, or hopefully get suicide verdict, the murderer has switched the citric acid package with unknown package, putting it back when the death had been dealt.
Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote: Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.
Ever hear of a chemical reaction? yeahhhhh
Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate. I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote: Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.
Ever hear of a chemical reaction? yeahhhhh
Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate. I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.
He was dipping it in the explosive then chewing it, not double dipping into the acid. Besides water desensitizes an explosive because its so inert.
On December 10 2009 08:54 sS.NuB wrote: You guys are real assholes to dead people -_-. Don't you have any respect?
It's very selective. I've seen several people make fun of famous people's deaths and then those same people turned around and bitched and whined when others made fun of a famous person who they liked.
And this guy is a nobody so your logic sucks.
and I care if anyone dies.. as long as its not George Bush/ Republican.
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote: Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.
Ever hear of a chemical reaction? yeahhhhh
Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate. I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.
He was dipping it in the explosive then chewing it, not double dipping into the acid. Besides water desensitizes an explosive because its so inert.
haha well I feel like a douche. I also misread it. I thought somehow he got his gum switched with the explosive then dipped it into acid and threw it into his mouth.
On December 10 2009 08:54 sS.NuB wrote: You guys are real assholes to dead people -_-. Don't you have any respect?
It's very selective. I've seen several people make fun of famous people's deaths and then those same people turned around and bitched and whined when others made fun of a famous person who they liked.
lol most of the comments and puns in this thread is just hilarious!
But on a serious note though, I really don't understand how he/she could be carrying/having explosive material while having citric acid near him/her. It sounds like this person was in the lab or something. If that's the case, that's just stupidity to me because you don't eat or drink in chemistry lab. Or does this student knew that unidentified (to us readers and people) substance is explosive material as a Chemistry student? Of course like haster27 suggested, it could be a premeditated murder. Really sad story though, hope they find the answers to this tragedy.
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote: Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.
Ever hear of a chemical reaction? yeahhhhh
Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate. I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.
Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote: Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.
Ever hear of a chemical reaction? yeahhhhh
Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate. I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.
Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.
What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university. Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it. What helped the reaction to overcome the activation energy huh? The water? The chewing? Bombs have a blasting cap for a reason...
Hydrogen bombs are a horrible example of your point... there's obviously something that activated the bomb... Tell me what activated this bomb
Also I was just kidding about the especially clever stuff
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote: Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.
On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote: he bit off more than he could chew.
Looks like he's not the only biter.
On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote: Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.
Ever hear of a chemical reaction? yeahhhhh
Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate. I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.
Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.
What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university. Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it. What helped the reaction to overcome the activation energy huh? The water? The chewing? Bombs have a blasting cap for a reason...
Hydrogen bombs are a horrible example of your point... there's obviously something that activated the bomb... Tell me what activated this bomb
Also I was just kidding about the especially clever stuff
Are you a freshman? Water is a stable substance for sure, but your mouth has saliva, with a lot of different elements in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium in it, not just water (then there's other stuff like enzymes and mucus, but this is not exactly relevant anyway). And it's not like your mouth is a pool of water, there's only so much spit in there. It doesn't seem to say what the explosive is, but obviously the chewing helped overcome the activation energy. I forget what it is, but there are chemicals that explode if you just drop them. Also, have you ever heard of sodium? Go drop some sodium in a lake or look it up on youtube and tell me that explosives "work less well in water than outside out it". Bombs do have blasting caps. Good point. Go look it up and after you learn that different chemicals have different properties, come back to this thread. Not all explosives are the same.
Hydrogen bombs are a great example for activation energy. They have the capacity to explode but don't unless given enough activation energy, by exploding an atomic bomb iirc.
I don't know this off the top of my head, so I googled it but for mastication, the normal biting force is 100~150 Newtons. But it wasn't a bomb that blew off his jaw, it was an explosive. It seems that your money isn't wasted since you've learned so much in your classes apparently.
Here's an example. You have a gun with gunpowder in it. How can it have the ability to propel a bullet without it exploding in your pocket when you walk around? Go google it.
On December 10 2009 08:54 sS.NuB wrote: You guys are real assholes to dead people -_-. Don't you have any respect?
It's very selective. I've seen several people make fun of famous people's deaths and then those same people turned around and bitched and whined when others made fun of a famous person who they liked.
And this guy is a nobody so your logic sucks.
and I care if anyone dies.. as long as its not George Bush/ Republican.
You are real asshole to dead Republicans -_-. Don't you have any respect?
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote: Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.
On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote: he bit off more than he could chew.
Looks like he's not the only biter.
On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote: Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.
Ever hear of a chemical reaction? yeahhhhh
Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate. I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.
Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.
What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university. Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it. What helped the reaction to overcome the activation energy huh? The water? The chewing? Bombs have a blasting cap for a reason...
Hydrogen bombs are a horrible example of your point... there's obviously something that activated the bomb... Tell me what activated this bomb
Also I was just kidding about the especially clever stuff
Are you a freshman? Water is a stable substance for sure, but it's saliva in your mouth, not just water, with a lot of different elements in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium. And it's not like your mouth is a pool of water, there's only so much spit in there. It doesn't seem to say what the explosive is, but obviously the chewing helped overcome the activation energy. I forget what it is, but there are chemicals that explode if you just drop them. Also, have you ever heard of sodium? Go drop some sodium in a lake or look it up on youtube and tell me that explosives "work less well in water than outside out it". Bombs do have blasting caps. Good point. Go look it up and after you learn that different chemicals have different properties, come back to this thread. Not all explosives are the same.
Hydrogen bombs are a great example. They have the capacity to explode but don't unless given enough activation energy. I don't know this off the top of my head, so I googled it but for mastication, the normal biting force is 100~150 Newtons. But it wasn't a bomb that blew off his jaw, it was an explosive. It seems that your money isn't wasted since you've learned so much in your classes apparently.
Are you a moron? Sure it has lots of other things, none of which are suitable for setting off an explosive. How could the chewing set it off but the jostling in his pocket not set it off, not much of a difference in energy input. Sodium is a extremely volatile substance that reacts with pretty much anything, including water, and its not even an explosive. Sodium and other alkaline metals have to be kept in oil to prevent it from reacting with anything else, and there's no way you could dip something into it unless you're on a fuckin stove. Different chemicals have different properties? Really genius, I didn't know that... but regardless of what explosive it is, you still need something to take it over that energy barrier, and don't say that the pressure from chewing can do that. Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion.
Hydrogen bombs are a shitty example because there's something to set them off. There's nothing to set a bomb off inside a persons mouth. Also, I restate that water reduces the effectiveness of an explosive, so if anything it would be more stable in your mouth.
From wiki:
Hygroscopicity and Water Resistance The introduction of water into an explosive is highly undesirable since it reduces the sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation of the explosive. Hygroscopicity is used as a measure of a material's moisture-absorbing tendencies. Moisture affects explosives adversely by acting as an inert material that absorbs heat when vaporized, and by acting as a solvent medium that can cause undesired chemical reactions. Sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation are reduced by inert materials that reduce the continuity of the explosive mass.
Gunpowder is set off by shock from the gun's hammer hitting the primer, which explodes and sets off the gunpowder, so that example makes no sense here
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote: Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.
On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote: he bit off more than he could chew.
Looks like he's not the only biter.
On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote: Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.
Ever hear of a chemical reaction? yeahhhhh
Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate. I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.
Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.
What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university. Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it. What helped the reaction to overcome the activation energy huh? The water? The chewing? Bombs have a blasting cap for a reason...
Hydrogen bombs are a horrible example of your point... there's obviously something that activated the bomb... Tell me what activated this bomb
Also I was just kidding about the especially clever stuff
Are you a freshman? Water is a stable substance for sure, but it's saliva in your mouth, not just water, with a lot of different elements in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium. And it's not like your mouth is a pool of water, there's only so much spit in there. It doesn't seem to say what the explosive is, but obviously the chewing helped overcome the activation energy. I forget what it is, but there are chemicals that explode if you just drop them. Also, have you ever heard of sodium? Go drop some sodium in a lake or look it up on youtube and tell me that explosives "work less well in water than outside out it". Bombs do have blasting caps. Good point. Go look it up and after you learn that different chemicals have different properties, come back to this thread. Not all explosives are the same.
Hydrogen bombs are a great example. They have the capacity to explode but don't unless given enough activation energy. I don't know this off the top of my head, so I googled it but for mastication, the normal biting force is 100~150 Newtons. But it wasn't a bomb that blew off his jaw, it was an explosive. It seems that your money isn't wasted since you've learned so much in your classes apparently.
Are you a moron? Sure it has lots of other things, none of which are suitable for setting off an explosive. How could the chewing set it off but the jostling in his pocket not set it off, not much of a difference in energy input. Sodium is a extremely volatile substance that reacts with pretty much anything, including water, and its not even an explosive. Sodium and other alkaline metals have to be kept in oil to prevent it from reacting with anything else, and there's no way you could dip something into it unless you're on a fuckin stove. Different chemicals have different properties? Really genius, I didn't know that... but regardless of what explosive it is, you still need something to take it over that energy barrier, and don't say that the pressure from chewing can do that. Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion.
Hydrogen bombs are a shitty example because there's something to set them off. There's nothing to set a bomb off inside a persons mouth. Also, I restate that water reduces the effectiveness of an explosive, so if anything it would be more stable in your mouth.
Hygroscopicity and Water Resistance The introduction of water into an explosive is highly undesirable since it reduces the sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation of the explosive. Hygroscopicity is used as a measure of a material's moisture-absorbing tendencies. Moisture affects explosives adversely by acting as an inert material that absorbs heat when vaporized, and by acting as a solvent medium that can cause undesired chemical reactions. Sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation are reduced by inert materials that reduce the continuity of the explosive mass.
You aren't impressing anyone with your insults and your assumptions. Calling me an idiot when I'm obviously not doesn't make me any dumber, nor does it make you look smarter. I repeat, there is not that much water in your mouth. It's not like you're soaking explosives in a beaker. And large pieces of sodium DO explode in water. "I'm studying chemistry in university." Are you really studying?
Ukraine - A Ukrainian chemistry student who had the bizarre habit of chewing gum after dipping it in citric acid, has been found dead with his jaw blown off.
The student's jaw was believed to be blown off by exploding chewing gum.
Officers found citric acid packets and a similar-looking unidentified substance, believed to be some kind of explosive material, on a table near the 25-year-old's body, Russian news agency Ria Novosti said.
Investigators suspect the student confused the packets and put gum covered with explosive material into his mouth.
Where does it say anything about him putting the explosive in his pocket? I didn't say that he put sodium in his mouth, it was an example kiddo. Don't get so defensive just because you don't know that much.
"Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion. "
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote: Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.
On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote: he bit off more than he could chew.
Looks like he's not the only biter.
On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote: Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.
Ever hear of a chemical reaction? yeahhhhh
Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate. I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.
Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.
What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university. Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it. What helped the reaction to overcome the activation energy huh? The water? The chewing? Bombs have a blasting cap for a reason...
Hydrogen bombs are a horrible example of your point... there's obviously something that activated the bomb... Tell me what activated this bomb
Also I was just kidding about the especially clever stuff
Are you a freshman? Water is a stable substance for sure, but it's saliva in your mouth, not just water, with a lot of different elements in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium. And it's not like your mouth is a pool of water, there's only so much spit in there. It doesn't seem to say what the explosive is, but obviously the chewing helped overcome the activation energy. I forget what it is, but there are chemicals that explode if you just drop them. Also, have you ever heard of sodium? Go drop some sodium in a lake or look it up on youtube and tell me that explosives "work less well in water than outside out it". Bombs do have blasting caps. Good point. Go look it up and after you learn that different chemicals have different properties, come back to this thread. Not all explosives are the same.
Hydrogen bombs are a great example. They have the capacity to explode but don't unless given enough activation energy. I don't know this off the top of my head, so I googled it but for mastication, the normal biting force is 100~150 Newtons. But it wasn't a bomb that blew off his jaw, it was an explosive. It seems that your money isn't wasted since you've learned so much in your classes apparently.
Are you a moron? Sure it has lots of other things, none of which are suitable for setting off an explosive. How could the chewing set it off but the jostling in his pocket not set it off, not much of a difference in energy input. Sodium is a extremely volatile substance that reacts with pretty much anything, including water, and its not even an explosive. Sodium and other alkaline metals have to be kept in oil to prevent it from reacting with anything else, and there's no way you could dip something into it unless you're on a fuckin stove. Different chemicals have different properties? Really genius, I didn't know that... but regardless of what explosive it is, you still need something to take it over that energy barrier, and don't say that the pressure from chewing can do that. Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion.
Hydrogen bombs are a shitty example because there's something to set them off. There's nothing to set a bomb off inside a persons mouth. Also, I restate that water reduces the effectiveness of an explosive, so if anything it would be more stable in your mouth.
From wiki:
Hygroscopicity and Water Resistance The introduction of water into an explosive is highly undesirable since it reduces the sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation of the explosive. Hygroscopicity is used as a measure of a material's moisture-absorbing tendencies. Moisture affects explosives adversely by acting as an inert material that absorbs heat when vaporized, and by acting as a solvent medium that can cause undesired chemical reactions. Sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation are reduced by inert materials that reduce the continuity of the explosive mass.
You aren't impressing anyone with your insults and your assumptions. Calling me an idiot doesn't make me any dumber, nor does it make you look smarter.
but you are arguing with someone you obviously think is an idiot does
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote: Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.
On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote: he bit off more than he could chew.
Looks like he's not the only biter.
On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote: Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.
Ever hear of a chemical reaction? yeahhhhh
Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate. I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.
Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.
What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university. Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it. What helped the reaction to overcome the activation energy huh? The water? The chewing? Bombs have a blasting cap for a reason...
Hydrogen bombs are a horrible example of your point... there's obviously something that activated the bomb... Tell me what activated this bomb
Also I was just kidding about the especially clever stuff
Are you a freshman? Water is a stable substance for sure, but it's saliva in your mouth, not just water, with a lot of different elements in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium. And it's not like your mouth is a pool of water, there's only so much spit in there. It doesn't seem to say what the explosive is, but obviously the chewing helped overcome the activation energy. I forget what it is, but there are chemicals that explode if you just drop them. Also, have you ever heard of sodium? Go drop some sodium in a lake or look it up on youtube and tell me that explosives "work less well in water than outside out it". Bombs do have blasting caps. Good point. Go look it up and after you learn that different chemicals have different properties, come back to this thread. Not all explosives are the same.
Hydrogen bombs are a great example. They have the capacity to explode but don't unless given enough activation energy. I don't know this off the top of my head, so I googled it but for mastication, the normal biting force is 100~150 Newtons. But it wasn't a bomb that blew off his jaw, it was an explosive. It seems that your money isn't wasted since you've learned so much in your classes apparently.
Are you a moron? Sure it has lots of other things, none of which are suitable for setting off an explosive. How could the chewing set it off but the jostling in his pocket not set it off, not much of a difference in energy input. Sodium is a extremely volatile substance that reacts with pretty much anything, including water, and its not even an explosive. Sodium and other alkaline metals have to be kept in oil to prevent it from reacting with anything else, and there's no way you could dip something into it unless you're on a fuckin stove. Different chemicals have different properties? Really genius, I didn't know that... but regardless of what explosive it is, you still need something to take it over that energy barrier, and don't say that the pressure from chewing can do that. Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion.
Hydrogen bombs are a shitty example because there's something to set them off. There's nothing to set a bomb off inside a persons mouth. Also, I restate that water reduces the effectiveness of an explosive, so if anything it would be more stable in your mouth.
From wiki:
Hygroscopicity and Water Resistance The introduction of water into an explosive is highly undesirable since it reduces the sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation of the explosive. Hygroscopicity is used as a measure of a material's moisture-absorbing tendencies. Moisture affects explosives adversely by acting as an inert material that absorbs heat when vaporized, and by acting as a solvent medium that can cause undesired chemical reactions. Sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation are reduced by inert materials that reduce the continuity of the explosive mass.
You aren't impressing anyone with your insults and your assumptions. Calling me an idiot doesn't make me any dumber, nor does it make you look smarter.
but you are arguing with someone you obviously think is an idiot does
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote: Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.
On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote: he bit off more than he could chew.
Looks like he's not the only biter.
On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote: Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.
Ever hear of a chemical reaction? yeahhhhh
Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate. I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.
Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.
What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university. Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it. What helped the reaction to overcome the activation energy huh? The water? The chewing? Bombs have a blasting cap for a reason...
Hydrogen bombs are a horrible example of your point... there's obviously something that activated the bomb... Tell me what activated this bomb
Also I was just kidding about the especially clever stuff
Are you a freshman? Water is a stable substance for sure, but it's saliva in your mouth, not just water, with a lot of different elements in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium. And it's not like your mouth is a pool of water, there's only so much spit in there. It doesn't seem to say what the explosive is, but obviously the chewing helped overcome the activation energy. I forget what it is, but there are chemicals that explode if you just drop them. Also, have you ever heard of sodium? Go drop some sodium in a lake or look it up on youtube and tell me that explosives "work less well in water than outside out it". Bombs do have blasting caps. Good point. Go look it up and after you learn that different chemicals have different properties, come back to this thread. Not all explosives are the same.
Hydrogen bombs are a great example. They have the capacity to explode but don't unless given enough activation energy. I don't know this off the top of my head, so I googled it but for mastication, the normal biting force is 100~150 Newtons. But it wasn't a bomb that blew off his jaw, it was an explosive. It seems that your money isn't wasted since you've learned so much in your classes apparently.
Are you a moron? Sure it has lots of other things, none of which are suitable for setting off an explosive. How could the chewing set it off but the jostling in his pocket not set it off, not much of a difference in energy input. Sodium is a extremely volatile substance that reacts with pretty much anything, including water, and its not even an explosive. Sodium and other alkaline metals have to be kept in oil to prevent it from reacting with anything else, and there's no way you could dip something into it unless you're on a fuckin stove. Different chemicals have different properties? Really genius, I didn't know that... but regardless of what explosive it is, you still need something to take it over that energy barrier, and don't say that the pressure from chewing can do that. Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion.
Hydrogen bombs are a shitty example because there's something to set them off. There's nothing to set a bomb off inside a persons mouth. Also, I restate that water reduces the effectiveness of an explosive, so if anything it would be more stable in your mouth.
From wiki:
Hygroscopicity and Water Resistance The introduction of water into an explosive is highly undesirable since it reduces the sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation of the explosive. Hygroscopicity is used as a measure of a material's moisture-absorbing tendencies. Moisture affects explosives adversely by acting as an inert material that absorbs heat when vaporized, and by acting as a solvent medium that can cause undesired chemical reactions. Sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation are reduced by inert materials that reduce the continuity of the explosive mass.
You aren't impressing anyone with your insults and your assumptions. Calling me an idiot doesn't make me any dumber, nor does it make you look smarter.
but you are arguing with someone you obviously think is an idiot does
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote: Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.
On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote: he bit off more than he could chew.
Looks like he's not the only biter.
On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote: Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.
Ever hear of a chemical reaction? yeahhhhh
Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate. I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.
Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.
What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university. Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it. What helped the reaction to overcome the activation energy huh? The water? The chewing? Bombs have a blasting cap for a reason...
Hydrogen bombs are a horrible example of your point... there's obviously something that activated the bomb... Tell me what activated this bomb
Also I was just kidding about the especially clever stuff
Are you a freshman? Water is a stable substance for sure, but it's saliva in your mouth, not just water, with a lot of different elements in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium. And it's not like your mouth is a pool of water, there's only so much spit in there. It doesn't seem to say what the explosive is, but obviously the chewing helped overcome the activation energy. I forget what it is, but there are chemicals that explode if you just drop them. Also, have you ever heard of sodium? Go drop some sodium in a lake or look it up on youtube and tell me that explosives "work less well in water than outside out it". Bombs do have blasting caps. Good point. Go look it up and after you learn that different chemicals have different properties, come back to this thread. Not all explosives are the same.
Hydrogen bombs are a great example. They have the capacity to explode but don't unless given enough activation energy. I don't know this off the top of my head, so I googled it but for mastication, the normal biting force is 100~150 Newtons. But it wasn't a bomb that blew off his jaw, it was an explosive. It seems that your money isn't wasted since you've learned so much in your classes apparently.
Are you a moron? Sure it has lots of other things, none of which are suitable for setting off an explosive. How could the chewing set it off but the jostling in his pocket not set it off, not much of a difference in energy input. Sodium is a extremely volatile substance that reacts with pretty much anything, including water, and its not even an explosive. Sodium and other alkaline metals have to be kept in oil to prevent it from reacting with anything else, and there's no way you could dip something into it unless you're on a fuckin stove. Different chemicals have different properties? Really genius, I didn't know that... but regardless of what explosive it is, you still need something to take it over that energy barrier, and don't say that the pressure from chewing can do that. Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion.
Hydrogen bombs are a shitty example because there's something to set them off. There's nothing to set a bomb off inside a persons mouth. Also, I restate that water reduces the effectiveness of an explosive, so if anything it would be more stable in your mouth.
From wiki:
Hygroscopicity and Water Resistance The introduction of water into an explosive is highly undesirable since it reduces the sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation of the explosive. Hygroscopicity is used as a measure of a material's moisture-absorbing tendencies. Moisture affects explosives adversely by acting as an inert material that absorbs heat when vaporized, and by acting as a solvent medium that can cause undesired chemical reactions. Sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation are reduced by inert materials that reduce the continuity of the explosive mass.
You aren't impressing anyone with your insults and your assumptions. Calling me an idiot doesn't make me any dumber, nor does it make you look smarter.
but you are arguing with someone you obviously think is an idiot does
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote: Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.
On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote: he bit off more than he could chew.
Looks like he's not the only biter.
On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote: Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.
Ever hear of a chemical reaction? yeahhhhh
Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate. I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.
Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.
What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university. Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it. What helped the reaction to overcome the activation energy huh? The water? The chewing? Bombs have a blasting cap for a reason...
Hydrogen bombs are a horrible example of your point... there's obviously something that activated the bomb... Tell me what activated this bomb
Also I was just kidding about the especially clever stuff
Are you a freshman? Water is a stable substance for sure, but it's saliva in your mouth, not just water, with a lot of different elements in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium. And it's not like your mouth is a pool of water, there's only so much spit in there. It doesn't seem to say what the explosive is, but obviously the chewing helped overcome the activation energy. I forget what it is, but there are chemicals that explode if you just drop them. Also, have you ever heard of sodium? Go drop some sodium in a lake or look it up on youtube and tell me that explosives "work less well in water than outside out it". Bombs do have blasting caps. Good point. Go look it up and after you learn that different chemicals have different properties, come back to this thread. Not all explosives are the same.
Hydrogen bombs are a great example. They have the capacity to explode but don't unless given enough activation energy. I don't know this off the top of my head, so I googled it but for mastication, the normal biting force is 100~150 Newtons. But it wasn't a bomb that blew off his jaw, it was an explosive. It seems that your money isn't wasted since you've learned so much in your classes apparently.
Are you a moron? Sure it has lots of other things, none of which are suitable for setting off an explosive. How could the chewing set it off but the jostling in his pocket not set it off, not much of a difference in energy input. Sodium is a extremely volatile substance that reacts with pretty much anything, including water, and its not even an explosive. Sodium and other alkaline metals have to be kept in oil to prevent it from reacting with anything else, and there's no way you could dip something into it unless you're on a fuckin stove. Different chemicals have different properties? Really genius, I didn't know that... but regardless of what explosive it is, you still need something to take it over that energy barrier, and don't say that the pressure from chewing can do that. Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion.
Hydrogen bombs are a shitty example because there's something to set them off. There's nothing to set a bomb off inside a persons mouth. Also, I restate that water reduces the effectiveness of an explosive, so if anything it would be more stable in your mouth.
From wiki:
Hygroscopicity and Water Resistance The introduction of water into an explosive is highly undesirable since it reduces the sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation of the explosive. Hygroscopicity is used as a measure of a material's moisture-absorbing tendencies. Moisture affects explosives adversely by acting as an inert material that absorbs heat when vaporized, and by acting as a solvent medium that can cause undesired chemical reactions. Sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation are reduced by inert materials that reduce the continuity of the explosive mass.
You aren't impressing anyone with your insults and your assumptions. Calling me an idiot when I'm obviously not doesn't make me any dumber, nor does it make you look smarter.
Ukraine - A Ukrainian chemistry student who had the bizarre habit of chewing gum after dipping it in citric acid, has been found dead with his jaw blown off.
The student's jaw was believed to be blown off by exploding chewing gum.
Officers found citric acid packets and a similar-looking unidentified substance, believed to be some kind of explosive material, on a table near the 25-year-old's body, Russian news agency Ria Novosti said.
Investigators suspect the student confused the packets and put gum covered with explosive material into his mouth.
Where does it say anything about him putting the explosive in his pocket? I didn't say that he put sodium in his mouth, it was an example kiddo. Don't get so defensive just because you don't know that much.
"Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion. "
Tell that to his jaw.
If he confused the packets, he obviously moved it sometime, and that movement is similar to the movement of the explosive in his mouth. I'm saying the story as it is, is faulty. It could very well be true, but there's something that they're not saying.
If his gum exploded, it wasn't because he dipped it in explosives and put it in his mouth
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote: Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.
On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote: he bit off more than he could chew.
Looks like he's not the only biter.
On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote: Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.
Ever hear of a chemical reaction? yeahhhhh
Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate. I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.
Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.
What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university. Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it. What helped the reaction to overcome the activation energy huh? The water? The chewing? Bombs have a blasting cap for a reason...
Hydrogen bombs are a horrible example of your point... there's obviously something that activated the bomb... Tell me what activated this bomb
Also I was just kidding about the especially clever stuff
Are you a freshman? Water is a stable substance for sure, but it's saliva in your mouth, not just water, with a lot of different elements in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium. And it's not like your mouth is a pool of water, there's only so much spit in there. It doesn't seem to say what the explosive is, but obviously the chewing helped overcome the activation energy. I forget what it is, but there are chemicals that explode if you just drop them. Also, have you ever heard of sodium? Go drop some sodium in a lake or look it up on youtube and tell me that explosives "work less well in water than outside out it". Bombs do have blasting caps. Good point. Go look it up and after you learn that different chemicals have different properties, come back to this thread. Not all explosives are the same.
Hydrogen bombs are a great example. They have the capacity to explode but don't unless given enough activation energy. I don't know this off the top of my head, so I googled it but for mastication, the normal biting force is 100~150 Newtons. But it wasn't a bomb that blew off his jaw, it was an explosive. It seems that your money isn't wasted since you've learned so much in your classes apparently.
Are you a moron? Sure it has lots of other things, none of which are suitable for setting off an explosive. How could the chewing set it off but the jostling in his pocket not set it off, not much of a difference in energy input. Sodium is a extremely volatile substance that reacts with pretty much anything, including water, and its not even an explosive. Sodium and other alkaline metals have to be kept in oil to prevent it from reacting with anything else, and there's no way you could dip something into it unless you're on a fuckin stove. Different chemicals have different properties? Really genius, I didn't know that... but regardless of what explosive it is, you still need something to take it over that energy barrier, and don't say that the pressure from chewing can do that. Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion.
Hydrogen bombs are a shitty example because there's something to set them off. There's nothing to set a bomb off inside a persons mouth. Also, I restate that water reduces the effectiveness of an explosive, so if anything it would be more stable in your mouth.
From wiki:
Hygroscopicity and Water Resistance The introduction of water into an explosive is highly undesirable since it reduces the sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation of the explosive. Hygroscopicity is used as a measure of a material's moisture-absorbing tendencies. Moisture affects explosives adversely by acting as an inert material that absorbs heat when vaporized, and by acting as a solvent medium that can cause undesired chemical reactions. Sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation are reduced by inert materials that reduce the continuity of the explosive mass.
You aren't impressing anyone with your insults and your assumptions. Calling me an idiot when I'm obviously not doesn't make me any dumber, nor does it make you look smarter.
Ukraine - A Ukrainian chemistry student who had the bizarre habit of chewing gum after dipping it in citric acid, has been found dead with his jaw blown off.
The student's jaw was believed to be blown off by exploding chewing gum.
Officers found citric acid packets and a similar-looking unidentified substance, believed to be some kind of explosive material, on a table near the 25-year-old's body, Russian news agency Ria Novosti said.
Investigators suspect the student confused the packets and put gum covered with explosive material into his mouth.
Where does it say anything about him putting the explosive in his pocket? I didn't say that he put sodium in his mouth, it was an example kiddo. Don't get so defensive just because you don't know that much.
"Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion. "
Tell that to his jaw.
If he confused the packets, he obviously moved it sometime, and that movement is similar to the movement of the explosive in his mouth. I'm saying the story as it is, is faulty. It could very well be true, but there's something that they're not saying.
If his gum exploded, it wasn't because he dipped it in explosives and put it in his mouth
It's not exactly a dissertation but moving something with your hands and chewing something do not generate the same amount of force. The two movements are not similar.
Explain to me why his gum couldn't have exploded from chewing. Does your mouth not generate force as you chew? Is there not pressure applied to the explosive?
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote: Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.
On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote: he bit off more than he could chew.
Looks like he's not the only biter.
On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote: Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.
Ever hear of a chemical reaction? yeahhhhh
Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate. I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.
Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.
What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university. Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it. What helped the reaction to overcome the activation energy huh? The water? The chewing? Bombs have a blasting cap for a reason...
Hydrogen bombs are a horrible example of your point... there's obviously something that activated the bomb... Tell me what activated this bomb
Also I was just kidding about the especially clever stuff
Are you a freshman? Water is a stable substance for sure, but it's saliva in your mouth, not just water, with a lot of different elements in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium. And it's not like your mouth is a pool of water, there's only so much spit in there. It doesn't seem to say what the explosive is, but obviously the chewing helped overcome the activation energy. I forget what it is, but there are chemicals that explode if you just drop them. Also, have you ever heard of sodium? Go drop some sodium in a lake or look it up on youtube and tell me that explosives "work less well in water than outside out it". Bombs do have blasting caps. Good point. Go look it up and after you learn that different chemicals have different properties, come back to this thread. Not all explosives are the same.
Hydrogen bombs are a great example. They have the capacity to explode but don't unless given enough activation energy. I don't know this off the top of my head, so I googled it but for mastication, the normal biting force is 100~150 Newtons. But it wasn't a bomb that blew off his jaw, it was an explosive. It seems that your money isn't wasted since you've learned so much in your classes apparently.
Are you a moron? Sure it has lots of other things, none of which are suitable for setting off an explosive. How could the chewing set it off but the jostling in his pocket not set it off, not much of a difference in energy input. Sodium is a extremely volatile substance that reacts with pretty much anything, including water, and its not even an explosive. Sodium and other alkaline metals have to be kept in oil to prevent it from reacting with anything else, and there's no way you could dip something into it unless you're on a fuckin stove. Different chemicals have different properties? Really genius, I didn't know that... but regardless of what explosive it is, you still need something to take it over that energy barrier, and don't say that the pressure from chewing can do that. Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion.
Hydrogen bombs are a shitty example because there's something to set them off. There's nothing to set a bomb off inside a persons mouth. Also, I restate that water reduces the effectiveness of an explosive, so if anything it would be more stable in your mouth.
From wiki:
Hygroscopicity and Water Resistance The introduction of water into an explosive is highly undesirable since it reduces the sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation of the explosive. Hygroscopicity is used as a measure of a material's moisture-absorbing tendencies. Moisture affects explosives adversely by acting as an inert material that absorbs heat when vaporized, and by acting as a solvent medium that can cause undesired chemical reactions. Sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation are reduced by inert materials that reduce the continuity of the explosive mass.
You aren't impressing anyone with your insults and your assumptions. Calling me an idiot when I'm obviously not doesn't make me any dumber, nor does it make you look smarter.
Ukraine - A Ukrainian chemistry student who had the bizarre habit of chewing gum after dipping it in citric acid, has been found dead with his jaw blown off.
The student's jaw was believed to be blown off by exploding chewing gum.
Officers found citric acid packets and a similar-looking unidentified substance, believed to be some kind of explosive material, on a table near the 25-year-old's body, Russian news agency Ria Novosti said.
Investigators suspect the student confused the packets and put gum covered with explosive material into his mouth.
Where does it say anything about him putting the explosive in his pocket? I didn't say that he put sodium in his mouth, it was an example kiddo. Don't get so defensive just because you don't know that much.
"Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion. "
Tell that to his jaw.
If he confused the packets, he obviously moved it sometime, and that movement is similar to the movement of the explosive in his mouth. I'm saying the story as it is, is faulty. It could very well be true, but there's something that they're not saying.
If his gum exploded, it wasn't because he dipped it in explosives and put it in his mouth
It's not exactly a dissertation but moving something with your hands and chewing something do not generate the same amount of force. The two movements are not similar.
Explain to me why his gum didn't explode from chewing.
Because there's nothing that can set it off? Force doesn't matter here, its shock. There's very little shock applied to the explosive from your jaw, similar to jostling the package.
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote: Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.
On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote: he bit off more than he could chew.
Looks like he's not the only biter.
On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote: Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.
Ever hear of a chemical reaction? yeahhhhh
Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate. I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.
Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.
What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university. Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it. What helped the reaction to overcome the activation energy huh? The water? The chewing? Bombs have a blasting cap for a reason...
Hydrogen bombs are a horrible example of your point... there's obviously something that activated the bomb... Tell me what activated this bomb
Also I was just kidding about the especially clever stuff
Are you a freshman? Water is a stable substance for sure, but it's saliva in your mouth, not just water, with a lot of different elements in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium. And it's not like your mouth is a pool of water, there's only so much spit in there. It doesn't seem to say what the explosive is, but obviously the chewing helped overcome the activation energy. I forget what it is, but there are chemicals that explode if you just drop them. Also, have you ever heard of sodium? Go drop some sodium in a lake or look it up on youtube and tell me that explosives "work less well in water than outside out it". Bombs do have blasting caps. Good point. Go look it up and after you learn that different chemicals have different properties, come back to this thread. Not all explosives are the same.
Hydrogen bombs are a great example. They have the capacity to explode but don't unless given enough activation energy. I don't know this off the top of my head, so I googled it but for mastication, the normal biting force is 100~150 Newtons. But it wasn't a bomb that blew off his jaw, it was an explosive. It seems that your money isn't wasted since you've learned so much in your classes apparently.
Are you a moron? Sure it has lots of other things, none of which are suitable for setting off an explosive. How could the chewing set it off but the jostling in his pocket not set it off, not much of a difference in energy input. Sodium is a extremely volatile substance that reacts with pretty much anything, including water, and its not even an explosive. Sodium and other alkaline metals have to be kept in oil to prevent it from reacting with anything else, and there's no way you could dip something into it unless you're on a fuckin stove. Different chemicals have different properties? Really genius, I didn't know that... but regardless of what explosive it is, you still need something to take it over that energy barrier, and don't say that the pressure from chewing can do that. Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion.
Hydrogen bombs are a shitty example because there's something to set them off. There's nothing to set a bomb off inside a persons mouth. Also, I restate that water reduces the effectiveness of an explosive, so if anything it would be more stable in your mouth.
From wiki:
Hygroscopicity and Water Resistance The introduction of water into an explosive is highly undesirable since it reduces the sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation of the explosive. Hygroscopicity is used as a measure of a material's moisture-absorbing tendencies. Moisture affects explosives adversely by acting as an inert material that absorbs heat when vaporized, and by acting as a solvent medium that can cause undesired chemical reactions. Sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation are reduced by inert materials that reduce the continuity of the explosive mass.
You aren't impressing anyone with your insults and your assumptions. Calling me an idiot when I'm obviously not doesn't make me any dumber, nor does it make you look smarter.
Ukraine - A Ukrainian chemistry student who had the bizarre habit of chewing gum after dipping it in citric acid, has been found dead with his jaw blown off.
The student's jaw was believed to be blown off by exploding chewing gum.
Officers found citric acid packets and a similar-looking unidentified substance, believed to be some kind of explosive material, on a table near the 25-year-old's body, Russian news agency Ria Novosti said.
Investigators suspect the student confused the packets and put gum covered with explosive material into his mouth.
Where does it say anything about him putting the explosive in his pocket? I didn't say that he put sodium in his mouth, it was an example kiddo. Don't get so defensive just because you don't know that much.
"Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion. "
Tell that to his jaw.
If he confused the packets, he obviously moved it sometime, and that movement is similar to the movement of the explosive in his mouth. I'm saying the story as it is, is faulty. It could very well be true, but there's something that they're not saying.
If his gum exploded, it wasn't because he dipped it in explosives and put it in his mouth
It's not exactly a dissertation but moving something with your hands and chewing something do not generate the same amount of force. The two movements are not similar.
Explain to me why his gum didn't explode from chewing.
Because there's nothing that can set it off? Force doesn't matter here, its shock. There's very little shock applied to the explosive from your jaw, similar to jostling the package.
By all means, explain this "shock" to me. What is the scientific definition of shock and explain why it matters and force doesn't. Are you a freshman? How chemistry and physics courses have you taken?
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote: Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.
On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote: he bit off more than he could chew.
Looks like he's not the only biter.
On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: [quote] Ever hear of a chemical reaction? yeahhhhh
Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate. I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.
Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.
What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university. Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it. What helped the reaction to overcome the activation energy huh? The water? The chewing? Bombs have a blasting cap for a reason...
Hydrogen bombs are a horrible example of your point... there's obviously something that activated the bomb... Tell me what activated this bomb
Also I was just kidding about the especially clever stuff
Are you a freshman? Water is a stable substance for sure, but it's saliva in your mouth, not just water, with a lot of different elements in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium. And it's not like your mouth is a pool of water, there's only so much spit in there. It doesn't seem to say what the explosive is, but obviously the chewing helped overcome the activation energy. I forget what it is, but there are chemicals that explode if you just drop them. Also, have you ever heard of sodium? Go drop some sodium in a lake or look it up on youtube and tell me that explosives "work less well in water than outside out it". Bombs do have blasting caps. Good point. Go look it up and after you learn that different chemicals have different properties, come back to this thread. Not all explosives are the same.
Hydrogen bombs are a great example. They have the capacity to explode but don't unless given enough activation energy. I don't know this off the top of my head, so I googled it but for mastication, the normal biting force is 100~150 Newtons. But it wasn't a bomb that blew off his jaw, it was an explosive. It seems that your money isn't wasted since you've learned so much in your classes apparently.
Are you a moron? Sure it has lots of other things, none of which are suitable for setting off an explosive. How could the chewing set it off but the jostling in his pocket not set it off, not much of a difference in energy input. Sodium is a extremely volatile substance that reacts with pretty much anything, including water, and its not even an explosive. Sodium and other alkaline metals have to be kept in oil to prevent it from reacting with anything else, and there's no way you could dip something into it unless you're on a fuckin stove. Different chemicals have different properties? Really genius, I didn't know that... but regardless of what explosive it is, you still need something to take it over that energy barrier, and don't say that the pressure from chewing can do that. Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion.
Hydrogen bombs are a shitty example because there's something to set them off. There's nothing to set a bomb off inside a persons mouth. Also, I restate that water reduces the effectiveness of an explosive, so if anything it would be more stable in your mouth.
From wiki:
Hygroscopicity and Water Resistance The introduction of water into an explosive is highly undesirable since it reduces the sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation of the explosive. Hygroscopicity is used as a measure of a material's moisture-absorbing tendencies. Moisture affects explosives adversely by acting as an inert material that absorbs heat when vaporized, and by acting as a solvent medium that can cause undesired chemical reactions. Sensitivity, strength, and velocity of detonation are reduced by inert materials that reduce the continuity of the explosive mass.
You aren't impressing anyone with your insults and your assumptions. Calling me an idiot when I'm obviously not doesn't make me any dumber, nor does it make you look smarter.
Ukraine - A Ukrainian chemistry student who had the bizarre habit of chewing gum after dipping it in citric acid, has been found dead with his jaw blown off.
The student's jaw was believed to be blown off by exploding chewing gum.
Officers found citric acid packets and a similar-looking unidentified substance, believed to be some kind of explosive material, on a table near the 25-year-old's body, Russian news agency Ria Novosti said.
Investigators suspect the student confused the packets and put gum covered with explosive material into his mouth.
Where does it say anything about him putting the explosive in his pocket? I didn't say that he put sodium in his mouth, it was an example kiddo. Don't get so defensive just because you don't know that much.
"Shock can set off an explosion but only when applied extremely quickly, as in a blasting cap, not slowly chewing a piece of gum. There's absolutely nothing in his mouth to set off an explosion. "
Tell that to his jaw.
If he confused the packets, he obviously moved it sometime, and that movement is similar to the movement of the explosive in his mouth. I'm saying the story as it is, is faulty. It could very well be true, but there's something that they're not saying.
If his gum exploded, it wasn't because he dipped it in explosives and put it in his mouth
It's not exactly a dissertation but moving something with your hands and chewing something do not generate the same amount of force. The two movements are not similar.
Explain to me why his gum didn't explode from chewing.
Because there's nothing that can set it off? Force doesn't matter here, its shock. There's very little shock applied to the explosive from your jaw, similar to jostling the package.
By all means, explain this shock to me. What is the scientific definition of shock and explain why it matters and force doesn't. Are you a freshman?
Shock matters more than force/pressure because the slow application of force/pressure is dispersed through molecular rearrangements. With the quick application of mechanical shock, the energy doesn't have a chance to disperse and as a result the substance has a lot more energy, energy that it uses to overcome the activation barrier for the explosive.
Actually...your teeth coming together generates a lot more force than simple jostling in your pocket. Your jaw is able to generate a lot of force in closing. Too bad that didn't help this guy, because his jaw was up against an explosive? I dunno. You guys are better at weird references to jaws and explosives than me.
On December 10 2009 10:50 Ecrilon wrote: Actually...your teeth coming together generates a lot more force than simple jostling in your pocket. Your jaw is able to generate a lot of force in closing. Too bad that didn't help this guy, because his jaw was up against an explosive? I dunno. You guys are better at weird references to jaws and explosives than me.
Like I said, force doesnt really matter as much as shock. Your jaw is strong but very slow. Squishing an explosive won't do anything. Dropping it from a great height and whacking it with a hammer will
On December 10 2009 10:50 Ecrilon wrote: Actually...your teeth coming together generates a lot more force than simple jostling in your pocket. Your jaw is able to generate a lot of force in closing. Too bad that didn't help this guy, because his jaw was up against an explosive? I dunno. You guys are better at weird references to jaws and explosives than me.
Like I said, force doesnt really matter as much as shock. Your jaw is strong but very slow. Squishing an explosive won't do anything. Dropping it from a great height and whacking it with a hammer will
My god, how can you even think to call me a moron and retarded? Shock is a sudden acceleration or deceleration caused by an impact. force is how a mass is affected by an acceleration.
How does force not matter as much as shock? What is the difference? And yes, chewing an explosive can make it explode. This isn't an argument, I'm telling you this. Stop derailing your thread with your lack of knowledge in chemistry and physics. Either go to class and actually pay attention or go think up some clever puns.
On December 10 2009 10:50 Ecrilon wrote: Actually...your teeth coming together generates a lot more force than simple jostling in your pocket. Your jaw is able to generate a lot of force in closing. Too bad that didn't help this guy, because his jaw was up against an explosive? I dunno. You guys are better at weird references to jaws and explosives than me.
Like I said, force doesnt really matter as much as shock. Your jaw is strong but very slow. Squishing an explosive won't do anything. Dropping it from a great height and whacking it with a hammer will
My god, how can you even think to call me a moron and retarded? Shock is a sudden acceleration or deceleration caused by an impact. force is how a mass is affected by an acceleration.
How does force not matter as much as shock? What is the difference? And yes, chewing an explosive can make it explode. This isn't an argument, I'm telling you this. Stop derailing your thread with your lack of knowledge in chemistry and physics.
I'm pretty sure I made sure in my reply to you that I mean the type of force applied by your jaw is slow. Chewing can't make it explode dropping it can. I'm telling you this. Don't take a random definition out of context and expect it to make sense.
On December 10 2009 10:50 Ecrilon wrote: Actually...your teeth coming together generates a lot more force than simple jostling in your pocket. Your jaw is able to generate a lot of force in closing. Too bad that didn't help this guy, because his jaw was up against an explosive? I dunno. You guys are better at weird references to jaws and explosives than me.
Like I said, force doesnt really matter as much as shock. Your jaw is strong but very slow. Squishing an explosive won't do anything. Dropping it from a great height and whacking it with a hammer will
My god, how can you even think to call me a moron and retarded? Shock is a sudden acceleration or deceleration caused by an impact. force is how a mass is affected by an acceleration.
How does force not matter as much as shock? What is the difference? And yes, chewing an explosive can make it explode. This isn't an argument, I'm telling you this. Stop derailing your thread with your lack of knowledge in chemistry and physics.
I'm pretty sure I made sure in my reply to you that I mean the type of force applied by your jaw is slow. Chewing can't make it explode dropping it can. I'm telling you this. Don't take a random definition out of context and expect it to make sense.
Right. Because you arbitrarily decide that chewing is slow, you're totally right (sarcasm). What I put was not a random definition out of context, it fits right in here. Mastication has a force of about 100 Newtons. The acceleration of the earth is 9.8 meters per second squared, so the thing you dropped would have to weigh at least 10 kilograms to match the same force of chewing you buffoon, if it takes 1 second, obviously more if it takes longer, but I doubt a packet weighs that much and the friction of the air is slowing it down. "I'm telling you this" you must be a Nobel Prize recipient based on your vast knowledge of science.
On December 10 2009 10:50 Ecrilon wrote: Actually...your teeth coming together generates a lot more force than simple jostling in your pocket. Your jaw is able to generate a lot of force in closing. Too bad that didn't help this guy, because his jaw was up against an explosive? I dunno. You guys are better at weird references to jaws and explosives than me.
Like I said, force doesnt really matter as much as shock. Your jaw is strong but very slow. Squishing an explosive won't do anything. Dropping it from a great height and whacking it with a hammer will
My god, how can you even think to call me a moron and retarded? Shock is a sudden acceleration or deceleration caused by an impact. force is how a mass is affected by an acceleration.
How does force not matter as much as shock? What is the difference? And yes, chewing an explosive can make it explode. This isn't an argument, I'm telling you this. Stop derailing your thread with your lack of knowledge in chemistry and physics.
I'm pretty sure I made sure in my reply to you that I mean the type of force applied by your jaw is slow. Chewing can't make it explode dropping it can. I'm telling you this. Don't take a random definition out of context and expect it to make sense.
Right. Because you arbitrarily decide that chewing is slow, you're totally right (sarcasm). What I put was not a random definition out of context, it fits right in here. Mastication has a force of about 100 Newtons. The acceleration of the earth is 9.8 meters per second squared, so the thing you dropped would have to weigh at least 10 kilograms to match the same force of chewing you buffoon. "I'm telling you this" you must be a Nobel Prize recipient based on your vast knowledge of science.
I've said it before and I'll say it again... its the rapid deceleration/acceleration that matters, not just the number of newtons applied to an explosive. You could put an elephant on top of most explosives and they wouldn't do shit all, but drop that same explosive from head height and boom.
You don't think chewing is slow? How fast do you chew?
On December 10 2009 10:50 Ecrilon wrote: Actually...your teeth coming together generates a lot more force than simple jostling in your pocket. Your jaw is able to generate a lot of force in closing. Too bad that didn't help this guy, because his jaw was up against an explosive? I dunno. You guys are better at weird references to jaws and explosives than me.
Like I said, force doesnt really matter as much as shock. Your jaw is strong but very slow. Squishing an explosive won't do anything. Dropping it from a great height and whacking it with a hammer will
My god, how can you even think to call me a moron and retarded? Shock is a sudden acceleration or deceleration caused by an impact. force is how a mass is affected by an acceleration.
How does force not matter as much as shock? What is the difference? And yes, chewing an explosive can make it explode. This isn't an argument, I'm telling you this. Stop derailing your thread with your lack of knowledge in chemistry and physics.
I'm pretty sure I made sure in my reply to you that I mean the type of force applied by your jaw is slow. Chewing can't make it explode dropping it can. I'm telling you this. Don't take a random definition out of context and expect it to make sense.
Right. Because you arbitrarily decide that chewing is slow, you're totally right (sarcasm). What I put was not a random definition out of context, it fits right in here. Mastication has a force of about 100 Newtons. The acceleration of the earth is 9.8 meters per second squared, so the thing you dropped would have to weigh at least 10 kilograms to match the same force of chewing you buffoon. "I'm telling you this" you must be a Nobel Prize recipient based on your vast knowledge of science.
I've said it before and I'll say it again... its the rapid deceleration/acceleration that matters, not just the number of newtons applied to an explosive. You could put an elephant on top of most explosives and they wouldn't do shit all, but drop that same explosive from head height and boom.
You don't think chewing is slow? How fast do you chew?
This argument has been blown way out of proportion.
On December 10 2009 09:48 ilj.psa wrote: looks like he put explosives inside his mouth
You're...
doing it wrong?
No, no it's fine. It's just metahumor. When a whole bunch of good jokes and bad puns have already been thrown out, the statement of the obvious is like humor in the unexpected or something. I read it on the internet!
On December 10 2009 09:48 ilj.psa wrote: looks like he put explosives inside his mouth
You're...
doing it wrong?
No, no it's fine. It's just metahumor. When a whole bunch of good jokes and bad puns have already been thrown out, the statement of the obvious is like humor in the unexpected or something. I read it on the internet!
Haha, yes, yes, I understood that but I wanted to follow along with it.
On December 10 2009 11:24 konadora wrote: lucky for me, I held my urge to look because I know it'll give me nightmares
im so creeped out now
feel like that thing is behind me :< help me
hug her
Another forum I visit has a swear filter that replaces 'fuck' with 'hug', that made your post more disturbing than the actual picture. :D Props to the person who made the Soul Reaver reference.
I guess there's no way for this poor guy to save face after this.
On December 10 2009 09:20 GreEny K wrote: That sucks, i wonder if he was in pain before he died or if it insta killed him.
He would have been in pain.
ABCNews his mother heard the sound of the explosion, according to authorities. She turned around to find Vladimir, 25, on the floor with his face bleeding and his jaw blown off.
Emergency services couldn't do anything to save him.
On December 10 2009 09:03 haster27 wrote: I say it's a murder. In order to create perfect alibi, or hopefully get suicide verdict, the murderer has switched the citric acid package with unknown package, putting it back when the death had been dealt.
On December 10 2009 10:50 Ecrilon wrote: Actually...your teeth coming together generates a lot more force than simple jostling in your pocket. Your jaw is able to generate a lot of force in closing. Too bad that didn't help this guy, because his jaw was up against an explosive? I dunno. You guys are better at weird references to jaws and explosives than me.
Like I said, force doesnt really matter as much as shock. Your jaw is strong but very slow. Squishing an explosive won't do anything. Dropping it from a great height and whacking it with a hammer will
My god, how can you even think to call me a moron and retarded? Shock is a sudden acceleration or deceleration caused by an impact. force is how a mass is affected by an acceleration.
How does force not matter as much as shock? What is the difference? And yes, chewing an explosive can make it explode. This isn't an argument, I'm telling you this. Stop derailing your thread with your lack of knowledge in chemistry and physics.
I'm pretty sure I made sure in my reply to you that I mean the type of force applied by your jaw is slow. Chewing can't make it explode dropping it can. I'm telling you this. Don't take a random definition out of context and expect it to make sense.
Right. Because you arbitrarily decide that chewing is slow, you're totally right (sarcasm). What I put was not a random definition out of context, it fits right in here. Mastication has a force of about 100 Newtons. The acceleration of the earth is 9.8 meters per second squared, so the thing you dropped would have to weigh at least 10 kilograms to match the same force of chewing you buffoon. "I'm telling you this" you must be a Nobel Prize recipient based on your vast knowledge of science.
I've said it before and I'll say it again... its the rapid deceleration/acceleration that matters, not just the number of newtons applied to an explosive. You could put an elephant on top of most explosives and they wouldn't do shit all, but drop that same explosive from head height and boom.
You don't think chewing is slow? How fast do you chew?
This argument has been blown way out of proportion.
On December 10 2009 14:54 BlueRoyaL wrote: really though, how does it explode in your mouth? is there actually some kinda chemical reaction that can be set off by that?
My hypothesis is that when his jaws came together to chew the gum, there was enough force to overcome the activation energy for the explosive to explode, but they don't say what compound it was, so no guarantees.
On December 10 2009 08:54 sS.NuB wrote: You guys are real assholes to dead people -_-. Don't you have any respect?
It's very selective. I've seen several people make fun of famous people's deaths and then those same people turned around and bitched and whined when others made fun of a famous person who they liked.
And this guy is a nobody so your logic sucks.
and I care if anyone dies.. as long as its not George Bush/ Republican.
Take five fucking seconds and think about why I said the word "selective".
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote: Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.
On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote: he bit off more than he could chew.
Looks like he's not the only biter.
On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote: Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.
Ever hear of a chemical reaction? yeahhhhh
Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate. I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.
Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.
What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university.
Studying != passing?
Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it.
Wow some of your inhumane comments i really find reprehensible, a student of similar age to many of you on here experiences a tragic accient and all you can do is make lame puns?
On December 10 2009 21:17 XeliN wrote: Wow some of your inhumane comments i really find reprehensible, a student of similar age to many of you on here experiences a tragic accient and all you can do is make lame puns?
I'm gobsmacked..
The real question is: How humane is chewing live exposives?
On December 10 2009 21:17 XeliN wrote: Wow some of your inhumane comments i really find reprehensible, a student of similar age to many of you on here experiences a tragic accient and all you can do is make lame puns?
On December 10 2009 21:17 XeliN wrote: Wow some of your inhumane comments i really find reprehensible, a student of similar age to many of you on here experiences a tragic accient and all you can do is make lame puns?
On December 10 2009 21:17 XeliN wrote: Wow some of your inhumane comments i really find reprehensible, a student of similar age to many of you on here experiences a tragic accient and all you can do is make lame puns?
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote: Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.
On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote: he bit off more than he could chew.
Looks like he's not the only biter.
On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote: Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.
Ever hear of a chemical reaction? yeahhhhh
Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate. I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.
Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.
What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university.
On December 10 2009 08:52 Chuiu wrote: Looks like he bit off more than he could chew.
On December 10 2009 09:25 DM20 wrote: he bit off more than he could chew.
Looks like he's not the only biter.
On December 10 2009 09:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 10 2009 09:06 meeple wrote: Seriously who carries around packets of explosives... and how is it possible that dipping the gum activated the explosive while carrying it around all day in his pocket didn't. Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true.
Ever hear of a chemical reaction? yeahhhhh
Its kind of like just carrying around dynamite. It usually still needs a spark/heat to actually detonate. I imagine an acid did the trick in this case.
Yeah seriously. Are you kidding me meeple? "Maybe I'm just especially clever... but this might not be true." ROFL Learn some chemistry before you start thinking that you're some kind of genius. Reactions have an activation energy, for example, room temperature is enough for water to spontaneously evaporate. Notice how oils don't visibly evaporate? How is it possible that we have hydrogen bombs? Why don't they just explode all the time? Especially clever indeed.
What the hell man? I'm studying chemistry in university.
Studying != passing?
Water is a very stable substance, with a high heat capacity. Whatever explosive it is, it would work less well in water than outside out it.
Nice job not reading the thread. If you had you might have known that sodium isn't an explosive.
If you want to draw a distinction between an explosive and something that causes explosions go right ahead. I was just picking a substance that doesn't react too well with water (Na + H2O = highly exothermic reaction), since OP seemed rather incredulous that an explosion could happen in the presence of water when it hadn't already done so without any water. Sodium is basically the perfect counter example. No water: no explosion. Water: explosion.
I have no idea what (if any) other substances (aside from Potassium, etc) may exhibit such properties. Chemistry is not my field and I claim no expertise there. But the existence of at least a few substances that lead to explosions in (and because of) the presence of water leads my layman's mind to think there could be others.
On December 10 2009 08:54 sS.NuB wrote: You guys are real assholes to dead people -_-. Don't you have any respect?
It's very selective. I've seen several people make fun of famous people's deaths and then those same people turned around and bitched and whined when others made fun of a famous person who they liked.
The hypocrisy on this site is rather amusing at times, no?
Making fun of this disgusting tragedy is just not something I am able to swallow, or chew on. Knock knock! Who's there? Jamaican. Jamaican who? Jaw making a run for it! My mouth goes faster than my brain, and my head, oh shit, help me catch it! Don't talk with your mouth unable to close, cos you can't. Okay three half jokes = 1 whole one, law of the universe. Fin.
After seeing the back and forth arguing between the chemical nature of the "explosive," I'm surprised no one mentioned the effect of orientation with activation energy.
For example, the gum, which is likely non-polar (during chewing --> i think it slowly changes its structure to become more polar after being exposed to air...or is it the other way around? --> please correct me here if I'm wrong), can be an adhesive agent for compounds of similar polarity. Should the explosive powder he was chewing be an organic molecule, the major way that energy could have been released to such an extent would likely be so that the energy of the products is relatively lower than the energy of the reactants (exothermic). This might be due to a simple Sn substitution or even elimination to form more stable products. Since these reactions could be stereoselective, it probably makes more sense that the gum allowed a certain configuration to cause the reaction.
My point is.........mabye its not the solvent, but rather the gum itself that facilitated the rxn because of assistance in orientation. AS for the actual substance, that will take a strenuous time to figure out. (resynthesizing old molecules back takes forever)
On December 12 2009 05:08 old times sake wrote: Making fun of this disgusting tragedy is just not something I am able to swallow, or chew on. Knock knock! Who's there? Jamaican. Jamaican who? Jaw making a run for it! My mouth goes faster than my brain, and my head, oh shit, help me catch it! Don't talk with your mouth unable to close, cos you can't. Okay three half jokes = 1 whole one, law of the universe. Fin.
On December 12 2009 05:08 old times sake wrote: Making fun of this disgusting tragedy is just not something I am able to swallow, or chew on. Knock knock! Who's there? Jamaican. Jamaican who? Jaw making a run for it! My mouth goes faster than my brain, and my head, oh shit, help me catch it! Don't talk with your mouth unable to close, cos you can't. Okay three half jokes = 1 whole one, law of the universe. Fin.
On December 10 2009 21:17 XeliN wrote: Wow some of your inhumane comments i really find reprehensible, a student of similar age to many of you on here experiences a tragic accient and all you can do is make lame puns?
I'm gobsmacked..
Unbelievable isn't it? Some people just live in their own little bubble.
On December 12 2009 05:08 old times sake wrote: Making fun of this disgusting tragedy is just not something I am able to swallow, or chew on. Knock knock! Who's there? Jamaican. Jamaican who? Jaw making a run for it! My mouth goes faster than my brain, and my head, oh shit, help me catch it! Don't talk with your mouth unable to close, cos you can't. Okay three half jokes = 1 whole one, law of the universe. Fin.
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