2009-2010 football (soccer) thread - Page 90

On February 28 2010 20:27 RowdierBob wrote:
I actually feel really sorry for both the kids involved. It was obvious the Stoke kid didn't intend to break his leg like that. At the speed they play, sometimes shit just happens albeit this time it was really, really bad.

Shawcross deserves whatever suspension he gets, but I don't think he should be vilified for the rest of his life for what happened. It's a risk everyone takes playing professional sport that you could be horribly injured and unfortunately for Ramsey he drew they short straw.

I wish him a speedy recovery and hope he's able to get back to the top some day.

On February 28 2010 11:54 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I think what you say is true but it's still awkward to place blame when stuff like this happens. There is still a great gap between being physically aggressive and breaking someone's leg in half, and between trying to injure someone and having an aggressive mindset.

On March 01 2010 04:02 Vin{MBL} wrote:


link 1
see the 2nd article in this one


i know it wasnt intentional, but I can;t believe this guy didnt learn his lesson after two previous injury incidents. (and ironically all 3 are/were arsenal players)



I understand what you're saying, and I agree. but i think it's the aggressive mindset itself which bridges the gap between playing hard/passionate football and causing dangerous injuries

and check out this article: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/353893-why-shawcross-is-malicious-pulis-walton-and-fa-must-share-the-blame

i dont agree with everything the writer says here, but his analysis of shawcross' tackles against adebayor and ramsey are spot-on

On March 01 2010 10:09 Vin{MBL} wrote:
arsenal isnt being singled out by the FA, but i think we are being singled out by managers as rough/technical fouls being our weakness. (because it breaks up the flow of the game)

On February 28 2010 10:58 uberMatt wrote:


you know what's funny as soon as i made that post i knew you were going to post that even though i didn't say that all

he should be punished, his reaction should not make any difference at all

your statement seemed to indicate that they went into the game with the mentality to injure arsenal players, and his reaction went against that

that's all i'm saying

On March 01 2010 11:15 uberMatt wrote:


yeah but when a team decides to play chippy and break up the flow of the game, it simply doesn't make sense to do it in a dangerous manner that will get them carded. shawcross could have simply pulled up and then pulled ramsey back and drew a foul and stopped the flow of play. we can therefore conclude that he was either (a) going in with the intention to hurt ramsey or (b) he's a clumsy idiot and thought he had a chance to win the ball cleanly

On March 02 2010 04:42 Baddieko wrote:
Very bad luck to Ramsey. If Cristiano Ronaldo was the one his leg won't be caught, every time he gets tackled his legs evade faster than his opponents'. Just that he didnt withdraw his leg completely and pretend that there is contact. LOL. A good way to protect himself although its gay, and it gets players booked.


[b]Arsenal should try to get more goals from other style of play such as direct football[∫/b]. They keep using the spanish style which is predictable and being the nature of premier league they get horrible tackles. Refs don't protect in epl unlike La liga. United and chelsea have more variety, continental+english game which is good on ground and air, thats why they are best in england.

On March 02 2010 01:43 Vin{MBL} wrote:


well then i think we both agree that it was a reckless challenge, and shawcross deserves a long ban for it.