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FBS1
Profile Joined April 2003
United Kingdom875 Posts
February 28 2010 16:35 GMT
#1781
ROONEY HEADING MACHINE
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-28 19:30:37
February 28 2010 19:02 GMT
#1782
On February 28 2010 20:27 RowdierBob wrote:
I actually feel really sorry for both the kids involved. It was obvious the Stoke kid didn't intend to break his leg like that. At the speed they play, sometimes shit just happens albeit this time it was really, really bad.

Shawcross deserves whatever suspension he gets, but I don't think he should be vilified for the rest of his life for what happened. It's a risk everyone takes playing professional sport that you could be horribly injured and unfortunately for Ramsey he drew they short straw.

I wish him a speedy recovery and hope he's able to get back to the top some day.


link 1
see the 2nd article in this one


i know it wasnt intentional, but I can;t believe this guy didnt learn his lesson after two previous injury incidents. (and ironically all 3 are/were arsenal players)

On February 28 2010 11:54 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I think what you say is true but it's still awkward to place blame when stuff like this happens. There is still a great gap between being physically aggressive and breaking someone's leg in half, and between trying to injure someone and having an aggressive mindset.


I understand what you're saying, and I agree. but i think it's the aggressive mindset itself which bridges the gap between playing hard/passionate football and causing dangerous injuries

and check out this article: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/353893-why-shawcross-is-malicious-pulis-walton-and-fa-must-share-the-blame

i dont agree with everything the writer says here, but his analysis of shawcross' tackles against adebayor and ramsey are spot-on
Freaky[x]
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada995 Posts
March 01 2010 00:30 GMT
#1783
what I didn't like about the initial play was that the ref initially just waved his arms around meaning just a foul and then when he realized that ramsey's leg was broken did he realise the severity.

It seems like the EPL is more interested in high internsity games where IF nobody gets hurts, people can be reckless and yes I think most teams vs arsenal take tactical fouls, which I also think warrant yellow cards, but the FUCKING EPL refs have no balls to give it in most home games.

anyways it's annoying. and I hope the best of luck for ramsey
uberMatt
Profile Joined May 2004
Canada659 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-01 00:45:09
March 01 2010 00:32 GMT
#1784
On March 01 2010 04:02 Vin{MBL} wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2010 20:27 RowdierBob wrote:
I actually feel really sorry for both the kids involved. It was obvious the Stoke kid didn't intend to break his leg like that. At the speed they play, sometimes shit just happens albeit this time it was really, really bad.

Shawcross deserves whatever suspension he gets, but I don't think he should be vilified for the rest of his life for what happened. It's a risk everyone takes playing professional sport that you could be horribly injured and unfortunately for Ramsey he drew they short straw.

I wish him a speedy recovery and hope he's able to get back to the top some day.


link 1
see the 2nd article in this one


i know it wasnt intentional, but I can;t believe this guy didnt learn his lesson after two previous injury incidents. (and ironically all 3 are/were arsenal players)

Show nested quote +
On February 28 2010 11:54 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I think what you say is true but it's still awkward to place blame when stuff like this happens. There is still a great gap between being physically aggressive and breaking someone's leg in half, and between trying to injure someone and having an aggressive mindset.


I understand what you're saying, and I agree. but i think it's the aggressive mindset itself which bridges the gap between playing hard/passionate football and causing dangerous injuries

and check out this article: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/353893-why-shawcross-is-malicious-pulis-walton-and-fa-must-share-the-blame

i dont agree with everything the writer says here, but his analysis of shawcross' tackles against adebayor and ramsey are spot-on


no one is disagreeing that the tackles weren't horrible, and i think he should get a long ban for the tackle, but arsenal is not being singled out by the FA, refs and opposing managers. its just a ridiculous claim.

and man that article is biased and sensationalist, what he says about pulling out of the challenge is true, but wtf is this supposed to mean "The fact that the ball ended up with a Stoke player says everything about the tackle."
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
March 01 2010 01:09 GMT
#1785
arsenal isnt being singled out by the FA, but i think we are being singled out by managers as rough/technical fouls being our weakness. (because it breaks up the flow of the game)
uberMatt
Profile Joined May 2004
Canada659 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-01 02:16:13
March 01 2010 02:15 GMT
#1786
On March 01 2010 10:09 Vin{MBL} wrote:
arsenal isnt being singled out by the FA, but i think we are being singled out by managers as rough/technical fouls being our weakness. (because it breaks up the flow of the game)


yeah but when a team decides to play chippy and break up the flow of the game, it simply doesn't make sense to do it in a dangerous manner that will get them carded. shawcross could have simply pulled up and then pulled ramsey back and drew a foul and stopped the flow of play. we can therefore conclude that he was either (a) going in with the intention to hurt ramsey or (b) he's a clumsy idiot and thought he had a chance to win the ball cleanly
white_box921
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United Kingdom967 Posts
March 01 2010 03:26 GMT
#1787
I think the problem lies more in English players are naturally less able to read players and situations and therefore more likely to get stuck in challenge/tackle. This is down to the fact that they don't see other players (limited vision) or read the play overall and understand that they will be late. Or as some people put it, they are less skilled.
horang3
Profile Joined November 2009
United States261 Posts
March 01 2010 03:28 GMT
#1788
On February 28 2010 10:58 uberMatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2010 10:54 Vin{MBL} wrote:
and shawcross crying doesnt make it not punishable. i understand and agree 100% that the tackle was not malicious, but when someone dies in a car accident, does the jury say "he didn't mean it, its ok?"


you know what's funny as soon as i made that post i knew you were going to post that even though i didn't say that all

he should be punished, his reaction should not make any difference at all

your statement seemed to indicate that they went into the game with the mentality to injure arsenal players, and his reaction went against that

that's all i'm saying

I agree 100%
Do great work
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
March 01 2010 16:43 GMT
#1789
On March 01 2010 11:15 uberMatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2010 10:09 Vin{MBL} wrote:
arsenal isnt being singled out by the FA, but i think we are being singled out by managers as rough/technical fouls being our weakness. (because it breaks up the flow of the game)


yeah but when a team decides to play chippy and break up the flow of the game, it simply doesn't make sense to do it in a dangerous manner that will get them carded. shawcross could have simply pulled up and then pulled ramsey back and drew a foul and stopped the flow of play. we can therefore conclude that he was either (a) going in with the intention to hurt ramsey or (b) he's a clumsy idiot and thought he had a chance to win the ball cleanly


well then i think we both agree that it was a reckless challenge, and shawcross deserves a long ban for it.
kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
March 01 2010 17:09 GMT
#1790
I naturally hate Arsenal but when I watched the game I really felt bad for Ramsey. He is a young kid with his entire career ahead of him but these type of tackles will often times ruin you or at least hinder you for the rest of your playing time. Sharcross did oviously look very distressed about that tackle and you could see he was crying as he left the field.

That isn't to say that he shouldn't be punished but I don't think you could say that he had an intention to hurt Ramsey just because you can provide articles where he has injured Arsenal players in his past.

The thing about English football is that it is one of the roughest leagues in the world and it shows in games like these. It is always unfortunate to see any player get hurt like this but it is part of the game and happens quite often now (I remember watching a spanish league game where a forward got his leg snapped in half just a few weeks ago... I think his name was Juilo Sergio).

It does seem like Arsenal have targets on their heads though for some reason they always have injuries like these happen to all their players.
Hi
Mascherano
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Argentina1726 Posts
March 01 2010 18:35 GMT
#1791
Bisu
MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
March 01 2010 18:52 GMT
#1792
Nice video was pretty amusing :D

The original song for this advert has Drogs and Torres in it also.
Making history not reliving it.
TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
March 01 2010 19:05 GMT
#1793
Not bad, I always liked Pepsi for doing these sort of adverts


Classic
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
March 01 2010 19:09 GMT
#1794
Ya, Pepsi is awesome:

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Totti ftw!
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-01 19:48:01
March 01 2010 19:42 GMT
#1795
Very bad luck to Ramsey. If Cristiano Ronaldo was the one his leg won't be caught, every time he gets tackled his legs evade faster than his opponents'. Just that he didnt withdraw his leg completely and pretend that there is contact. LOL. A good way to protect himself although its gay, and it gets players booked.


Arsenal should try to get more goals from other style of play such as direct football. They keep using the spanish style which is predictable and being the nature of premier league they get horrible tackles. Refs don't protect in epl unlike La liga. United and chelsea have more variety, continental+english game which is good on ground and air, thats why they are best in england.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
March 01 2010 22:53 GMT
#1796
just sad

=(
hatred outlives the hateful
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
March 01 2010 23:09 GMT
#1797
On March 02 2010 04:42 Baddieko wrote:
Very bad luck to Ramsey. If Cristiano Ronaldo was the one his leg won't be caught, every time he gets tackled his legs evade faster than his opponents'. Just that he didnt withdraw his leg completely and pretend that there is contact. LOL. A good way to protect himself although its gay, and it gets players booked.


[b]Arsenal should try to get more goals from other style of play such as direct football[∫/b]. They keep using the spanish style which is predictable and being the nature of premier league they get horrible tackles. Refs don't protect in epl unlike La liga. United and chelsea have more variety, continental+english game which is good on ground and air, thats why they are best in england.


To be fair, i've noticed they have started been doing this recently with bendtner (e.g. the fabregas cross to bendtner's header in the stoke game, which is a very un-arsenal goal)
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 01 2010 23:38 GMT
#1798
on MOTD they replayed the tackle from a different angle in slow motion and it was obvious Shawcross was going for the ball but because he was either badly positioned to begin with or just terrible at tackling or both, he missed the ball completely and the top of his foot went through Ramsey's ankle. Ramsey stretched for the ball so the side of his ankle was completely exposed. Bad technique + hard tackle + bad luck.
uberMatt
Profile Joined May 2004
Canada659 Posts
March 02 2010 01:15 GMT
#1799
On March 02 2010 01:43 Vin{MBL} wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2010 11:15 uberMatt wrote:
On March 01 2010 10:09 Vin{MBL} wrote:
arsenal isnt being singled out by the FA, but i think we are being singled out by managers as rough/technical fouls being our weakness. (because it breaks up the flow of the game)


yeah but when a team decides to play chippy and break up the flow of the game, it simply doesn't make sense to do it in a dangerous manner that will get them carded. shawcross could have simply pulled up and then pulled ramsey back and drew a foul and stopped the flow of play. we can therefore conclude that he was either (a) going in with the intention to hurt ramsey or (b) he's a clumsy idiot and thought he had a chance to win the ball cleanly


well then i think we both agree that it was a reckless challenge, and shawcross deserves a long ban for it.

yes

and the day that premiership refs start to call like spanish refs is the day i stop watching english football
white_box921
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United Kingdom967 Posts
March 02 2010 13:26 GMT
#1800
When you miss the ball that badly, i.e. Late. Then you suck. I hate it when pundits tell us that 'He was fully focused on the ball' because it just further proves how shit the player is as he isn't aware of his surrounding, something all good players shall be able to do.
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