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TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
February 27 2010 19:02 GMT
#1761
I missed it, but my friend kept saying how fucking sick it looked on MSN and how his leg was just hanging. Not sure how true that was, but sounds very grim
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
February 27 2010 19:02 GMT
#1762
FUCKERS god damnit I'm so tired of shit teams injuring future superstars.
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
February 27 2010 22:00 GMT
#1763
the reason why arsenal has such an injury crisis is because all the teams think the "physical" tactic is arsenal's "weakness". (thanks to the media/football critics)

and the FA/referees do nothing about it, because, for some reason everyone loves to hate on arsenal
MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
February 27 2010 23:31 GMT
#1764
Everyone has their problems with FA and refs.

Everyone loves to hate on Man U and Chelsea.
Making history not reliving it.
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
February 28 2010 01:39 GMT
#1765
Fuller in pre-match:


"Fuller wants to flex his muscle against Wenger's kids, and for Stoke to flex theirs. "Arsenal are a great team with great players and a great manager, but they haven't managed to win a trophy for some time and football's about what happens on the day," he says. "It's not easy to come to the Britannia and play against Stoke and we all know Arsenal are not a team who deal with [physical] pressure too well.

"Every time [Didier] Drogba roughs them up, Chelsea beat Arsenal. Bolton used to do it under Big Sam - Kevin Davies and all those guys roughed Arsenal up too. We've got to hit them with a bit of aggression"


when u read something like this after seeing the injury live... its disgusting.
i don't think anyone can deny that horrific injuries like this are a direct result of the mentality in that interview
uberMatt
Profile Joined May 2004
Canada659 Posts
February 28 2010 01:39 GMT
#1766
On February 28 2010 07:00 Vin{MBL} wrote:
the reason why arsenal has such an injury crisis is because all the teams think the "physical" tactic is arsenal's "weakness". (thanks to the media/football critics)

and the FA/referees do nothing about it, because, for some reason everyone loves to hate on arsenal


did you really just blame the media/football critics for arsenal's injury problems, lmao
uberMatt
Profile Joined May 2004
Canada659 Posts
February 28 2010 01:52 GMT
#1767
On February 28 2010 10:39 Vin{MBL} wrote:
Fuller in pre-match:

Show nested quote +

"Fuller wants to flex his muscle against Wenger's kids, and for Stoke to flex theirs. "Arsenal are a great team with great players and a great manager, but they haven't managed to win a trophy for some time and football's about what happens on the day," he says. "It's not easy to come to the Britannia and play against Stoke and we all know Arsenal are not a team who deal with [physical] pressure too well.

"Every time [Didier] Drogba roughs them up, Chelsea beat Arsenal. Bolton used to do it under Big Sam - Kevin Davies and all those guys roughed Arsenal up too. We've got to hit them with a bit of aggression"


when u read something like this after seeing the injury live... its disgusting.
i don't think anyone can deny that horrific injuries like this are a direct result of the mentality in that interview


'physical pressure' is not bad tackles, when someone says physical pressure or physical presence they always mean upper body strength, in shoulder to shoulder challenges, or before set pieces in the box, defending the ball with your body when attacking etc

the reason stoke is considered such a physical team is that they are so good at muscling their way into the position when attacking with or defending against set pieces and/or on delap's throws

it's not pretty but players don't get seriously injured from that type of play, all serious injuries come from tackles in open play

he named two strikers in his example, when was the last team you saw drogba make a tackle, let alone a 'bad tackle'

it also doesnt explain shawcross going off the pitch on the edge of tears after his tackle

i realize you're on "everyone hates arsenal, especially the fa" and you don't want to hear this but your argument is just too flawed to not respond to
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
February 28 2010 01:53 GMT
#1768
On February 28 2010 10:39 uberMatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2010 07:00 Vin{MBL} wrote:
the reason why arsenal has such an injury crisis is because all the teams think the "physical" tactic is arsenal's "weakness". (thanks to the media/football critics)

and the FA/referees do nothing about it, because, for some reason everyone loves to hate on arsenal


did you really just blame the media/football critics for arsenal's injury problems, lmao


not really, moreso on teams for purposefully being more aggressive during games against arsenal and getting away with it. and you saw the result of that today.
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
February 28 2010 01:54 GMT
#1769
and shawcross crying doesnt make it not punishable. i understand and agree 100% that the tackle was not malicious, but when someone dies in a car accident, does the jury say "he didn't mean it, its ok?"
uberMatt
Profile Joined May 2004
Canada659 Posts
February 28 2010 01:58 GMT
#1770
On February 28 2010 10:54 Vin{MBL} wrote:
and shawcross crying doesnt make it not punishable. i understand and agree 100% that the tackle was not malicious, but when someone dies in a car accident, does the jury say "he didn't mean it, its ok?"


you know what's funny as soon as i made that post i knew you were going to post that even though i didn't say that all

he should be punished, his reaction should not make any difference at all

your statement seemed to indicate that they went into the game with the mentality to injure arsenal players, and his reaction went against that

that's all i'm saying
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
February 28 2010 02:03 GMT
#1771
i dont think they went into the game with a mentality to injure players. but i think they went into the game with a mentality to tackle hard and play more aggressive etc;, and when that happens there is always a greater chance of a horrific injury, which happened today.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 28 2010 02:54 GMT
#1772
I think what you say is true but it's still awkward to place blame when stuff like this happens. There is still a great gap between being physically aggressive and breaking someone's leg in half, and between trying to injure someone and having an aggressive mindset.
ky[Z]
Profile Joined January 2003
China1730 Posts
February 28 2010 04:43 GMT
#1773
another career threatening injury in the EPL? what a surprise!

But seriously, refs in the EPL should have less tolerance on physical contacts and "technical" fouls!
Terran is SOoOo over-powered~!! Especially in TvT~!
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9047 Posts
February 28 2010 05:28 GMT
#1774
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 28 2010 05:53 GMT
#1775
haha, it would be very sad if he does give up a potential starting position on the England world cup squad over a personal grudge. Although what terry did is pretty lame.
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-28 06:15:54
February 28 2010 06:12 GMT
#1776
On February 28 2010 14:53 zulu_nation8 wrote:
haha, it would be very sad if he does give up a potential starting position on the England world cup squad over a personal grudge. Although what terry did is pretty lame.


didnt he already give up his place on the WC squad?! IMO if anyone, terry should've been the one to give up his WC place, but we know that would never have happened

also, from what i've read in articles/interviews... terry is a real **** off the pitch, all the fire he's getting is well deserved.
craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-28 07:00:34
February 28 2010 06:58 GMT
#1777
Regarding the broken foot, there wasn't any intention from Shawcross, but that was still a really crappy tackle. It really sucks having to see the same injury again, seems to be a recurring problem for Arsenal.

On the subject of Bridge, this is the best thing that could happen for England. The two other left backs Baines and Warnock are in my opinion of much better quality.
Hello World!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13418 Posts
February 28 2010 11:27 GMT
#1778
I actually feel really sorry for both the kids involved. It was obvious the Stoke kid didn't intend to break his leg like that. At the speed they play, sometimes shit just happens albeit this time it was really, really bad.

Shawcross deserves whatever suspension he gets, but I don't think he should be vilified for the rest of his life for what happened. It's a risk everyone takes playing professional sport that you could be horribly injured and unfortunately for Ramsey he drew they short straw.

I wish him a speedy recovery and hope he's able to get back to the top some day.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9047 Posts
February 28 2010 11:42 GMT
#1779
Yeah Bridge quit the England team.
MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
February 28 2010 13:56 GMT
#1780
On February 28 2010 15:58 craz3d wrote:


On the subject of Bridge, this is the best thing that could happen for England. The two other left backs Baines and Warnock are in my opinion of much better quality.


Agreed, if Bridge did go to WC he probably would of been on the bench.
Baines is in great form and Cole should be back in time for WC.
Making history not reliving it.
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