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Tankz123
Profile Joined December 2011
Denmark228 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 14:01:26
July 05 2013 14:01 GMT
#4521
On July 04 2013 17:33 Yuugo wrote:
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On July 03 2013 23:06 Hey Sean. wrote:
A team thing would be cool, I haven't played with any of you yet except Yorbon if I remember right. I'm still fairly terrible though, I can't stream at all. I've got a load of songs I can pass with like 90-95% and then loads I can't pass at all.

I'll try spectate some of you some time, some great scores in this thread.


Feel free to add me (Yuugo on osu! aswell) and start a random chat, I'm always happy to talk to people!


So my own thoughts on the team idea so far: I feel like it'll be more of a roundabout function of private group chats in the client. I don't really see how you can use a team in a game like osu, which is mostly singleplayer-based, as a way to improve your playing. You will need people with practically the same level and playstyle as you have and man, that's hard to find.

Team battles in multi could be a thing though.. that might be interesting.


me too! - Nichlaes

also, yuugo, do u wanna join my guild??? need gud dps
acie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States247 Posts
July 06 2013 21:57 GMT
#4522
is there anything in particular that people do to get pp/ranked up higher? I just play whatever but it seems sometimes my rank is a bit higher than better players when I occasionally play multi
Tankz123
Profile Joined December 2011
Denmark228 Posts
July 06 2013 23:17 GMT
#4523
i do hd on songs too fast to dt, hd/dt on slow songs n fail at everything else.

an easy way to get pp is either by 3 modding hards, doing easy hd's, dt/hd's or just getting better in general.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
July 06 2013 23:42 GMT
#4524
On July 07 2013 06:57 acie wrote:
is there anything in particular that people do to get pp/ranked up higher? I just play whatever but it seems sometimes my rank is a bit higher than better players when I occasionally play multi
I wouldnt pay too much attention to ranks in multiplayer tbh. If you do want to say anything based on ranking, keep in mind that the ranking is only correlated (not a one on one relation) with skill, and probably (although i dont have any proof) not too strongly.
I even think looking at the accuracy of a person is better at assessing the player's skill at a certain map type, then looking at his ranking. Accuracy rather then score, because score is largely dependent on combo, which is quite variable.

I get pp largely from playing songs i think i should be able to fc. Most of the time i will within a few tries.
I have got some pp after practice as well. In an attempt to get better at hr, I partly fc some easier songs with hr, to get used to the overall difficulty. Sometimes this results in an unexpectedly high rank and 1 or 2 pp.

Personally, i feel that focussing on improvement is 'better' than focussing on rank/pp. When you improve, your rank will follow. Apart from having fun ofcourse, if you're enjoying yourself to get a rank as high as possible, i'd do that


acie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States247 Posts
July 07 2013 03:35 GMT
#4525
actually my accuracy is kind of crap since I try to beat the hardest maps I can and I kind of got screwed by a few scores since I never paid attention to it at first
MegaManEXE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
July 07 2013 04:29 GMT
#4526
just spam hards with a bunch of mods

that's how shadowsoul did it lolol
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
July 07 2013 21:33 GMT
#4527
On July 07 2013 12:35 acie wrote:
actually my accuracy is kind of crap since I try to beat the hardest maps I can and I kind of got screwed by a few scores since I never paid attention to it at first
Ah, i actually meant comparing accuracies when you've just played a multiplayer game together, not total accuracies. With this comparison, you know the person you played against did better then you (or not of course). Depending on the difference in accuracy (of the just played game), you can probably tell if the opponent is better or not at a certain map (-type).
The total accuracies probably have little to do with skill. I wouldn't pay any attention to it, i think it's one of the worst methods to measure skill.
iaeuy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States249 Posts
July 11 2013 17:01 GMT
#4528
So I just grinded a song and finally got full combo
I looked at my rank and was like sweet I rose 300 rank for that
and then I looked at the first two digits and realized I actually dropped 700

fffff i hate this game
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Teliko
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 21:55:13
July 11 2013 17:39 GMT
#4529
Similar thing just happened to me. Was playing a series of songs and rose from about rank 35k to 28k. Took a break and came back to play some other random song, exited before it ended and my rank randomly dropped to 32k when my country rank and pp score hasn't moved. They weren't new songs or anything either. Pretty annoying.

Edit: After playing various new songs and getting decent scores only to have no rank change, I decided to go back to the songs I was playing to increase my rank before the plummet. Beat one of my old scores by 2% accuracy and gained 5k ranks again. This game...
Add a drop of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing at it.
Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
July 12 2013 03:30 GMT
#4530
So I met woozy on my travels, it was fun but ebacho flaked out

Also, woozy is still really good at osu >_>
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
July 15 2013 16:36 GMT
#4531
On July 12 2013 12:30 Xafnia wrote:
So I met woozy on my travels, it was fun but ebacho flaked out

Also, woozy is still really good at osu >_>
I wish i met either of you on my travels.
Too bad time zones dont really work out.
AxelTVx
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada916 Posts
July 16 2013 05:06 GMT
#4532
Okay I've recently started playing osu, and I cannot complete a single insane level beatmap. I use left click/mouse, am I supposed to be using something else?
Axel 145 Masters Protoss
acie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States247 Posts
July 16 2013 05:12 GMT
#4533
dont think you should be able to beat any insanes when you first start playing, but you probably should be using the keyboard for tapping
AxelTVx
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada916 Posts
July 16 2013 05:21 GMT
#4534
On July 16 2013 14:12 acie wrote:
dont think you should be able to beat any insanes when you first start playing, but you probably should be using the keyboard for tapping


For some reason I can't get into the rhythm of using keyboard instead of tapping. Like the most I've gotten so far is 3/4 way through a 5star insane - Angel Beats Intro (Full)
Axel 145 Masters Protoss
Teliko
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
July 16 2013 05:49 GMT
#4535
You're not really expected to be able to beat insane songs if you just started, it's just something you need to keep practicing with. Just using the mouse won't get you too far though, you'll be limiting your capabilities with streams greatly as you just won't be able to click fast enough. Moving from the mouse to keyboard can be tricky, but you will get used to it. You'll also be able to play for a lot longer as your hand can get tired much more quickly if it's doing all the work from both moving and constantly clicking.
Add a drop of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing at it.
Tankz123
Profile Joined December 2011
Denmark228 Posts
July 16 2013 09:52 GMT
#4536
there is a very few amount of players that can actually play pure mouse, but yes, most people do indeed keyboard + tablet/mouse - just keep trying with it and you'll eventually get it.

it took me a long time before i could actually do insanes, but i had no prior experience with rythm games, and im terrible in general, so just keep at it and you'll suceed eventually

also - add me - "Nichlaes" (im creative i know)
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
July 16 2013 12:05 GMT
#4537
It took me a few months to work up to passing Insanes. And I have years of rhythm game history.

The fastest way to learn is to constantly be pushing your skill. When you go through your songs, focus on the ones that you can only B or C, or even ones you fail, but can almost pass. You improve far quicker playing like that than if you just ground plays on easier stuff trying to nudge your top score up a bit. And practice takes time to give results.

Also, you may find yourself at a "skill plateau" where you continue practicing but can no longer seem to get better. the solution for those is more or less, take some breaks and play less, and find new stuff to challenge yourself with, change up what you play.

I play keyboard+mouse. I started out mouse only, but I found that having to use the same hand to click and aim simultaneously was really hard. I didn't know about using the keyboard till... I think it was Xafina who told me about being able to use the keyboard (I'm not sure) and I made the switch. Took some time to get used to, but being able to separate aiming from clicking makes it easier to split them up in your mind.

As you learn to play, you'll reach a point where you stop thinking about every circle and it becomes automatic to hit them. Once you hit that point, you should notice a considerable jump in skill (it might build up a bit gradually, but it should be noticeable very quickly).

I mostly play Osu!Mania now, but you can add me in game (same name).
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
July 16 2013 13:42 GMT
#4538
Yeah, I have been playing for about a year now and only recently have been able to play insane songs effectively well. It's a slow process of learning but once you get it, it comes to you very quickly. Try using a single key on keyboard+ mouse on easier songs. Then move up to two key on the keyboard and alternating them.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 14:12:37
July 16 2013 14:08 GMT
#4539
I took me longer to get to easily passing insanes then anything past that point, so it's not weird and you're not really lagging behind. That said, i just did random stuff until then. Also, insane have a pretty wide range skillwise, so you might just have some of the harder maps.
Although you have to play however you like, i'd at least try the keyboard if i were you. Almost everyone uses it. Not saying it's better, but most people find it very comfortable. (edit: i only read you first post, sorry)

What always helps me is to try and 'feel' the rythm. Sometimes, unclear patterns suddenly make sense. Also, my accuracy benefitted greatly from it.

In game, my username is yorickblabla, although practice offline a lot as well.

Edit: oh, and btw, what helped me significantly as well was dimming the background and disabling the map skins. Less distraction is more concentration. Have you tried getting some other skins? The (new) standard one seems to be okay, but i feel there are way better skins out there.
Tankz123
Profile Joined December 2011
Denmark228 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-17 17:13:34
July 17 2013 17:13 GMT
#4540
yay, can finally join the "im shit and i passed airman" club.

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