• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:08
CEST 15:08
KST 22:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy16ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool49Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash ASL21 General Discussion How Can I Add Timer & APM Count? A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group F [ASL21] Ro24 Group E Azhi's Colosseum - Foreign KCM Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1480 users

Street Fighter 4 Help - Page 4

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-16 03:20:21
March 16 2009 03:19 GMT
#61
Hang with Bill, it will help imo

Also iloveroo tell me which ones you think are quick charges lololol. You mean like Headbutt into Ultra?
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
iloveroo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada294 Posts
March 16 2009 03:56 GMT
#62
idk man haha, i know which one are charges, its just, i don't understand how they charge up so fast..? someone in this thread said that they save it up by keep holding back the whole time, is that true ?
darkmetal505
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States639 Posts
March 16 2009 04:03 GMT
#63
Yes, you can charge in the middle of other moves so right as they end, you pull off the charged move. Like if you just got sweeped, hold down and when you're getting up, do up + w/e and you pull of the charge move. You just have to get into the habit of doing it.
iloveroo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada294 Posts
March 16 2009 04:04 GMT
#64
yeah, it still confuses me when i face computers lol stupid d-pad ;o
iloveroo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada294 Posts
March 16 2009 04:28 GMT
#65
how do you do a focus cancel?
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-16 04:58:51
March 16 2009 04:57 GMT
#66
On March 16 2009 12:12 iloveroo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2009 12:10 Bill307 wrote:
On March 16 2009 11:48 iloveroo wrote:
On March 16 2009 11:40 Bill307 wrote:
On March 15 2009 22:58 iloveroo wrote:
too be honest, i don't know, i was thinking about getting the arcade joystick(non tournament) since its not at a three digit.
And like i said i just got the game yesterday, i've fasted so much ken people that owned me, so i thought they used a joystick, because they are doing such nice combos, so i was suggesting for myself to get a joystick aswell

First of all, do NOT buy the Madcatz SE stick: it is garbage.

If anything, consider buying a $50-$60 Hori fighting stick, or an $80 Hori Tekken 5 stick (PS2) + lag-free PS2-to-PS3 adapter.

The Hori T5 stick is actually pretty good. The cheaper ones... imo don't buy those unless you have a proper table or something to place it on. Their lighter weight makes them very difficult to use on your lap.

That said, most low-level players you face will be using a pad. There are some fighting game players who are very good on pad, even.


Ultimately, I think you should ask yourself: do you want to get good at SF4 or any 2D fighting game? Are you passionate about becoming a player who can compete in offline tournaments? If the answer is yes, then get a stick. The earlier you start learning to use a stick, the better. If the answer is no, then for the sake of saving money, you might want to avoid getting a stick.

Lastly, good luck in SF4.

may i ask where do buy a hori fighting stick? do i buy it online or is there a place in "ontario" that i can buy it from , i don't really trust the online buying shit xP

They used to sell them at Pacific Mall in Toronto / Richmond Hill. Not sure if they still do.

Btw if you're in the GTA or Hamilton area, you should come out to one of our tournaments sometime.

Also, you'll probably be interested in this:
Canada: Discussion & Matchmaking

well i live in mississauga lol, pacific mall is too too far from me, i don't drive, no job which ='s no money haha, and ill come to the tournament when i have money and when im actually good :3

Oh man, there are LOTS of fighting game players in sauga, many of whom I've met or I know personally. psychochronic, MDK, Altergenesis, and mtran66 (on weekends), to name a few, are all people I've played with many times before.

As for TL peeps, Jesung (infinity21) lives in sauga, so you might be able to talk him into playing with you before he returns to Waterloo in May (although I think he might prefer Arcana Heart? ). And Yaqoob really enjoyed playing SF4 at our LAN yesterday. I think he lives in Toronto-ish, but maybe he'll drive over to learn the game with you, since he's never really played fighting games before (the same goes for Jesung).
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
March 16 2009 05:01 GMT
#67
On March 16 2009 13:28 iloveroo wrote:
how do you do a focus cancel?


You do you a focus attack right after the first hit of a special move. The time window can be very short on some move so you have to practice for a while. Right after the focus animation start you dash foward or backward to cancel it.
Siz)Beggar
Profile Joined May 2008
United States339 Posts
March 16 2009 05:05 GMT
#68
i have a xbox 360 and how the hell do i do guiles moves?
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
March 16 2009 05:26 GMT
#69
on a side note i live in GTA, and i haven't played fighting games since streetfighter 2 for snes
god it's been a while, but i have been hearing wonderful things about SF4.

is it really worth a start? i tend to takes things kind of far, when i start them so i'd prefer not to unless i know
1 the game is actually decent
2 that there is going to be a helpful community with regular lans/tourneys nearby.

i don't mind being owned for the first month(s)
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-16 09:53:39
March 16 2009 09:50 GMT
#70
Although I'm pretty lukewarm about SF4 right now, there's no denying it's currently the biggest 2D fighting game in North America by far. Case in point: a 241-man SF4 tournament at Final Round 12 this weekend. The bracket was more than 6 feet tall. The next most popular game got just 57 entrants, I think (SF3:3s).

By my calculations, SF4 1st place (Justin Wong) won about $1,687. Considering he also won several other tournaments, iirc, he probably made almost $2000 this weekend -- travel costs excluded.

There was also an SF4 tourney in Toronto this weekend, featuring 30 entrants and $105 for first place. Then there's another SF4 tourney in Hamilton coming up in 2 weeks which has 27 entrants so far. In fact, you're pretty much guaranteed at least 1 tournament per month, due to Hamilton's monthly tournaments. A similar thing may happen in Toronto, as well.

To address your other point, considering how many high-profile players have picked it up and stuck with it since its arcade release 6 months ago, there's no question that the game is very good.


Now personally, I always promote Arcana Heart as being more fun (for me, at least). With SF4 attracting so many new players, I'm hoping there will be some competitive ones who will get good and think, "Man, I wish this game was more offense-oriented / offered more mobility / didn't have revenge ultras / had better character balance / etc." and then I'll come in all like, "Hey, why don't you try this game instead..."
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-16 10:20:34
March 16 2009 10:19 GMT
#71
Justin also scored a free TE stick + trip to Cali for winning Gamestop round 3. Ridiculous =\

He did it on a 360 pad too. =O
the courage to be a lazy bum
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
March 16 2009 10:23 GMT
#72
Etherone, I'd say that if you haven't really played fighters seriously before now, now is an awesome time to start. Community has never been more open armed to newcomers or so united behind one game.

If you pick it up with any consistency, you're almost guaranteed to make friends with 10 people or more you'd probably never have met or realized you had so much in common with.

To address your specific questions, people have been willing to part with $1-$1.50 per match at arcades to play sf4 when most games are $.25, should give you an idea of how well received it is. As for depth, the most all top players have been sticking with 4 consistently for as long as its been out. Also, people have been holding regular SF2 tournaments longer than starcraft, to give you an idea of longevity.

Also, a good point Bill brings up, once you learn a fighter, you'll be able to quickly pick up most any other. If you can play sf4 well, you could transition other fun fighters like Arcana Heart, Marvel vs Capcom 2, BlazBlue once it gets a console release (this summer, I'm hyped xD), or any number of other games that take the staple core that SF2 set up and create amazingly different and fun games without changing much of the core at all.
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
March 16 2009 10:38 GMT
#73
On March 16 2009 14:05 Siz)Beggar wrote:
i have a xbox 360 and how the hell do i do guiles moves?

open the move list.
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
March 16 2009 10:41 GMT
#74
On March 16 2009 19:38 SayaSP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2009 14:05 Siz)Beggar wrote:
i have a xbox 360 and how the hell do i do guiles moves?

open the move list.


if he means the super / ultra, I completely understand haha. I actually got a text message from a friend a couple weeks ago asking the same question

for those, its charge down back, then do down forward, down back, up forward + K (or KKK if its ultra).
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
March 16 2009 10:50 GMT
#75
Sometimes, I totally wonder why people have never touched sf2 (i never played it until recently but i knew that claw and guile super was some blah charge motion lolol), but thats not my thing to wonder. There is gonna be dudes that dont know etc and then theyll see t6 console and be like yo its tekken etc. peace sf4 yeah launchers into launchers. I just want AH3 HD Kirakira 1.3
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-16 11:02:38
March 16 2009 10:58 GMT
#76
On March 16 2009 12:56 iloveroo wrote:
idk man haha, i know which one are charges, its just, i don't understand how they charge up so fast..? someone in this thread said that they save it up by keep holding back the whole time, is that true ?

you seriously cant be "idk" you gotta be specific so we can help you understand

Also, what GranDim said is true, except you can ex focus cancel (thats why you turn yellow) out of jabs even lolol. it uses up half of your super bar however, but can setup things like tick throws, extend combos, extend your life (lol) and things like that. also you can dash immediately after pressing mp+mk. youre gonna have to practice to do that on a pad however.
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-16 11:35:49
March 16 2009 11:35 GMT
#77
On March 16 2009 18:50 Bill307 wrote:
better character balance

lololol
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
March 16 2009 12:57 GMT
#78
On March 16 2009 11:49 iloveroo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2009 11:42 sung_moon wrote:
even thou i suck at stick heres one i got from my best friend from japan for 50$ its really fuckin good and responsive
http://www.elecom.co.jp/news/200705/jc-as01/image/JC-AS01BK_01L.jpg

so what system do you play on 360 or ps3? and i thought you use a joystick ;o


i do suck at stick. i mainly use pad since ive been using pad since i was 6 years old with SNES
i play on PS3 ID is sung_moon
Forever Young
ohlala
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany232 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-17 00:59:00
March 16 2009 14:34 GMT
#79
On March 16 2009 14:26 Etherone wrote:
on a side note i live in GTA, and i haven't played fighting games since streetfighter 2 for snes
god it's been a while, but i have been hearing wonderful things about SF4.

is it really worth a start? i tend to takes things kind of far, when i start them so i'd prefer not to unless i know
1 the game is actually decent
2 that there is going to be a helpful community with regular lans/tourneys nearby.

i don't mind being owned for the first month(s)


i discovered SFIV about two weeks ago, and i must admit, it is a decent game. the SF2ish style makes me feel immature again. i feel like nothing ever happened since SNES. cant say much about frame data and many SF hardcore user complain about the lack of parry and air block, making SFIV supposedly worse than SF3s. the balance, despite those tiers, is ok afaik. i play low tier. still, its a great online game and a very hard single player too, unless you play gief :/

and yes you will be owned and for support check out shoryuken.com

♥VEGA♥
iloveroo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada294 Posts
March 16 2009 15:41 GMT
#80
On March 16 2009 19:58 SayaSP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2009 12:56 iloveroo wrote:
idk man haha, i know which one are charges, its just, i don't understand how they charge up so fast..? someone in this thread said that they save it up by keep holding back the whole time, is that true ?

you seriously cant be "idk" you gotta be specific so we can help you understand

Also, what GranDim said is true, except you can ex focus cancel (thats why you turn yellow) out of jabs even lolol. it uses up half of your super bar however, but can setup things like tick throws, extend combos, extend your life (lol) and things like that. also you can dash immediately after pressing mp+mk. youre gonna have to practice to do that on a pad however.

sorry im kinda lazy to explain, praciticing too much and/or im playing RE5 xP, how do you do "ex focus cancel" :3 i feel so noob right now. i think ex for the d-pad is L1?:S
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 52m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko295
LamboSC2 248
Rex 79
Creator 69
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 49363
Horang2 4144
Shuttle 1708
Mini 770
Soulkey 497
Soma 344
Rush 331
ggaemo 283
Last 267
BeSt 169
[ Show more ]
Mind 58
sorry 40
Movie 37
sSak 35
Shinee 30
[sc1f]eonzerg 27
JYJ 23
Noble 22
Shine 22
GoRush 12
IntoTheRainbow 11
Bale 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Sexy 6
Icarus 5
Dota 2
Gorgc4461
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
fl0m2688
Heroes of the Storm
MindelVK18
Other Games
B2W.Neo1645
Beastyqt624
ProTech120
QueenE67
Mew2King60
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL21148
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 488
Other Games
BasetradeTV266
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 57
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2067
• Stunt530
Upcoming Events
BSL
5h 52m
RSL Revival
17h 52m
Cure vs Rogue
Maru vs TBD
MaxPax vs TBD
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d
BSL
1d 5h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 20h
Wardi Open
1d 20h
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W1
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.