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iloveroo
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blabber
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iloveroo
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On March 15 2009 14:17 blabber wrote: ps3 controller is fine for me well can you do like high combos ? like the combos in the challenge mode ? | ||
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DownMaxX
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red.venom
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
On March 15 2009 14:22 DownMaxX wrote: I have problems with the PS3 controller and fighting games as well, so I purchase fighting games for 360 instead of PS3. That's about all I can recommend. I'm pretty sure that every SF4 player says that the 360 controller is the worst possible controller you can use for SF | ||
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OhThatDang
United States4685 Posts
im feeling that most people have joysticks now =p thats why you see a lot of ken and ryu shit online cause they have easy moves compared to the rest if you dont have a joystick | ||
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.Ix
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SayaSP
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Etherone
United States1898 Posts
On March 15 2009 14:22 DownMaxX wrote: I have problems with the PS3 controller and fighting games as well, so I purchase fighting games for 360 instead of PS3. That's about all I can recommend. haha the 360 controller is the absolute worst option for fighting games SF4 included. the ps controller is average/decent but if you can't adjust go for an arcade stick it is unanimously the best option | ||
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intothewrx
United States9 Posts
Arcade stick controller > D-pad on ps3 controller > ps3 controller's joystick. | ||
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fusionsdf
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SayaSP
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
Be ballar boy | ||
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SayaSP
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anch
United States5457 Posts
this is probably zizou21 smurfing, telling everyone that he sucks. j/k. I use 6axis, or the stock xbox360 controller, and i can perform all basic moves, just not the Hard combos. Inputs are not impossible its just they wont act fast enough. and its just getting used to the controller. | ||
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IzzyCraft
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[X]Ken_D
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mmgoose
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
On March 15 2009 14:22 DownMaxX wrote: I have problems with the PS3 controller and fighting games as well, so I purchase fighting games for 360 instead of PS3. That's about all I can recommend. On March 15 2009 14:47 red.venom wrote: never gonna be easy playin with a controller. Some people do it though if that makes you feel better. WHAAT? Bet it was never easy for you guys to play starcraft with hotkeys, either. Just keep doing them. The more you play, the more callused your thumbs will get and the better the controller will feel. | ||
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ZoW
United States3983 Posts
Have you used a stick before? Are you just going to play SF4 for a few months and then stop? Do you have plans on playing competitively? Do you play any other fighting games? The truth is that sticks are better than pads, both in speed and execution. However an arcade stick is a hefty investment, if you don't play competitively or are just a casual player, I don't think you should get one. | ||
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Trumpet
United States1935 Posts
A lot of those hard trial combos are crazy though. As someone who's been playing fighters for a good year or more now, I still have a few left that are just pure annoying (cough, C.Viper, cough). With some practice (virtually the same amount of practice you'd need on a stick fyi), you can do most anything on ps3 pad just as well as on stick. However, we've already got an awesome thread going for this game in the Sports & Games section here, and a thread devoted purely to fighters, so any further questions come join the fun there :} | ||
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
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ToT)OjKa(
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
On March 15 2009 18:51 ZoW wrote: Depends on how you play/how much your willing to commit. Ask yourself: Have you used a stick before? Are you just going to play SF4 for a few months and then stop? Do you have plans on playing competitively? Do you play any other fighting games? The truth is that sticks are better than pads, both in speed and execution. However an arcade stick is a hefty investment, if you don't play competitively or are just a casual player, I don't think you should get one. too be honest, i don't know, i was thinking about getting the arcade joystick(non tournament) since its not at a three digit. And like i said i just got the game yesterday, i've fasted so much ken people that owned me, so i thought they used a joystick, because they are doing such nice combos, so i was suggesting for myself to get a joystick aswell | ||
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
On March 15 2009 15:43 fusionsdf wrote: I just hit buttons and I'm awseome at it AHAHAHHAA. yeah i do that sometimes, when i get pissed off xD but yeah its not skills involved . i want to do things legitly xP | ||
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
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TonyL2
England1953 Posts
But iloveroo, I think this should probably go on the Street Fighter 4 thread | ||
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
On March 15 2009 23:10 TonyL2 wrote: I've also never figured out how to use charge characters and how they do it so quickly, so interested in this too But iloveroo, I think this should probably go on the Street Fighter 4 thread i tried to go there before, but too much people comment there, nobody even replies :3 | ||
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MCMcEmcee
United States1609 Posts
On March 15 2009 23:03 iloveroo wrote: ooh just to tell you guys im trying to master balrog first, but i've seen videos on youtube, where some people just charge for like not even a second, and they do the "dash strait" . but when i do it i have to charge for atleast 2 or more seconds. any help on this to make the charge less time? either they're hiding the charge time well, or the move you think is the dash straight is actually his turnaround punch (hold PPP/KKK, release). | ||
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iD.NicKy
France767 Posts
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
On March 15 2009 23:23 MCMcEmcee wrote: either they're hiding the charge time well, or the move you think is the dash straight is actually his turnaround punch (hold PPP/KKK, release). what do you mean by hiding the charge time well? and naw i don't use the turnaround punch alot, so its not that. um, i just hold for ps3 controller (d-pad left&down to charge) | ||
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
On March 15 2009 23:53 iD.NicKy wrote: Should i buy a ps3 just for sf4 or wait for the pc version ? pc.. i highly doubt lots of people will be playing on that compared to ps3 and xbox, but your choice | ||
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New Zealand6138 Posts
On March 16 2009 00:40 iloveroo wrote: what do you mean by hiding the charge time well? You can charge while doing a move. A good example is Bison's crouching jab x4 into LK Scissors, where you can pretty much just hold down-back while punching them and it'll have charged the Scissors by the time you need to combo into it. | ||
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[X]Ken_D
United States4650 Posts
A stick is worth the investment if you plan to keep playing SF4 for a long time or buy more fighting games in the future. | ||
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SayaSP
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SayaSP
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On March 16 2009 00:41 iloveroo wrote: pc.. i highly doubt lots of people will be playing on that compared to ps3 and xbox, but your choice Also this might be wrong, because everyone who has it on ps3 and xbox will likely have it on PC one way or another | ||
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IzzyCraft
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SayaSP
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Scooter
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
On March 16 2009 08:20 [X]Ken_D wrote: There are tricks to give you faster consecutive charges. Like if u charge 2 sec B, F, B + punch/kick instead of just B, F + punch/kick. A stick is worth the investment if you plan to keep playing SF4 for a long time or buy more fighting games in the future. but the thing is i see videos on youtube, some people charge for .. not even a second. i don't get it.. | ||
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SayaSP
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Scooter
United States747 Posts
On March 16 2009 09:10 iloveroo wrote: but the thing is i see videos on youtube, some people charge for .. not even a second. i don't get it.. the only situation I can think of that would even look like that is if a character was walking forward then suddenly bust out out a charge back move, something I've never seen and is impossible. In any other situation, a charge move is possible. Even if you're crossed up, if you do the charge move fast enough your character will do it in the correct direction (towards the crosser up character). What you're seeing is people charge attacks during combos and releasing. here's an advanced example: he's holding db during the cr.light punches then doing ex rush punch, then immediately holding back again. | ||
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ZoW
United States3983 Posts
On March 15 2009 22:58 iloveroo wrote: too be honest, i don't know, i was thinking about getting the arcade joystick(non tournament) since its not at a three digit. And like i said i just got the game yesterday, i've fasted so much ken people that owned me, so i thought they used a joystick, because they are doing such nice combos, so i was suggesting for myself to get a joystick aswell Have you used a stick before? If you haven't, it takes a while to get used to. Maybe a week or 2 before you start getting consistent with it.Your probably going to play worse on it than the pad for a little while. A stick is just another type of controller, and not going magically make you do combos and win. + Show Spoiler [Common misconception of an arcade stick] + ![[image loading]](http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/KhaosKontrol2/ArcadeStick.jpg) To tell you the truth, any stick that doesn't cost 100+ is really bad. I have a Madcatz SE modded with Japanese parts, it cost me a little over 130. But, If you want to play casually, and are okay with lower quality, by all means get one that's cheap. If you decide to get more serious you can upgrade or mod it with better parts. | ||
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
I just use pad and I can do TKCannon spikes finally and some kara-throws, it just takes getting used to and callouses like people have said. sung_moon is the best guy I ever played and the only times I could take games from him in SF2HD were when he was on stick ;P, uses ps3 pad for 4. practice practice practice | ||
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
On March 16 2009 09:11 SayaSP wrote: Don't say "I saw in videos" link us some, or remember what the videos were or the moves/combos they were doing. lol i lost them, too lazy to find them | ||
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
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iloveroo
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iloveroo
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
On March 16 2009 09:50 MiniRoman wrote: oooo ZoW I was about to say the sameeeeeeee thing but I didn't have any pictures so thanks~ I just use pad and I can do TKCannon spikes finally and some kara-throws, it just takes getting used to and callouses like people have said. sung_moon is the best guy I ever played and the only times I could take games from him in SF2HD were when he was on stick ;P, uses ps3 pad for 4. practice practice practice stop it roman your embarrassing me  charging with pad takes a lil practice to get used to for rog most of the time i can do regular b/f or d/u with charge partioning like urien in 3S get used to ALWAYS having charge no matter wht. whether u are throwing, focusing, jabbing, jumping, etc. | ||
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iloveroo
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
On March 16 2009 11:32 sung_moon wrote: stop it roman your embarrassing me charging with pad takes a lil practice to get used to for rog most of the time i can do regular b/f or d/u with charge partioning like urien in 3S get used to ALWAYS having charge no matter wht. whether u are throwing, focusing, jabbing, jumping, etc. your main is balrog? | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
yea. i mainly use rog and rufus.... chun-li and sagat are fun thou | ||
Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
On March 15 2009 22:58 iloveroo wrote: too be honest, i don't know, i was thinking about getting the arcade joystick(non tournament) since its not at a three digit. And like i said i just got the game yesterday, i've fasted so much ken people that owned me, so i thought they used a joystick, because they are doing such nice combos, so i was suggesting for myself to get a joystick aswell First of all, do NOT buy the Madcatz SE stick: it is garbage. If anything, consider buying a $50-$60 Hori fighting stick, or an $80 Hori Tekken 5 stick (PS2) + lag-free PS2-to-PS3 adapter. The Hori T5 stick is actually pretty good. The cheaper ones... imo don't buy those unless you have a proper table or something to place it on. Their lighter weight makes them very difficult to use on your lap.That said, most low-level players you face will be using a pad. There are some fighting game players who are very good on pad, even. Ultimately, I think you should ask yourself: do you want to get good at SF4 or any 2D fighting game? Are you passionate about becoming a player who can compete in offline tournaments? If the answer is yes, then get a stick. The earlier you start learning to use a stick, the better. If the answer is no, then for the sake of saving money, you might want to avoid getting a stick. Lastly, good luck in SF4. | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
On March 16 2009 11:38 sung_moon wrote: yea. i mainly use rog and rufus.... chun-li and sagat are fun thou hmm cool, yeah im trying to main balrog w/ a ps3 controller so hard to do those ex dash combos and shit -.-, all my combos are just jabs and sweeps none of the fancy things  | ||
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
On March 16 2009 11:40 Bill307 wrote: First of all, do NOT buy the Madcatz SE stick: it is garbage. If anything, consider buying a $50-$60 Hori fighting stick, or an $80 Hori Tekken 5 stick (PS2) + lag-free PS2-to-PS3 adapter. The Hori T5 stick is actually pretty good. The cheaper ones... imo don't buy those unless you have a proper table or something to place it on. Their lighter weight makes them very difficult to use on your lap.That said, most low-level players you face will be using a pad. There are some fighting game players who are very good on pad, even. Ultimately, I think you should ask yourself: do you want to get good at SF4 or any 2D fighting game? Are you passionate about becoming a player who can compete in offline tournaments? If the answer is yes, then get a stick. The earlier you start learning to use a stick, the better. If the answer is no, then for the sake of saving money, you might want to avoid getting a stick. Lastly, good luck in SF4. may i ask where do buy a hori fighting stick? do i buy it online or is there a place in "ontario" that i can buy it from , i don't really trust the online buying shit xP | ||
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
On March 16 2009 11:42 sung_moon wrote: even thou i suck at stick heres one i got from my best friend from japan for 50$ its really fuckin good and responsive http://www.elecom.co.jp/news/200705/jc-as01/image/JC-AS01BK_01L.jpg so what system do you play on 360 or ps3? and i thought you use a joystick ;o | ||
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
On March 16 2009 11:48 iloveroo wrote: may i ask where do buy a hori fighting stick? do i buy it online or is there a place in "ontario" that i can buy it from , i don't really trust the online buying shit xPThey used to sell them at Pacific Mall in Toronto / Richmond Hill. Not sure if they still do. Btw if you're in the GTA or Hamilton area, you should come out to one of our tournaments sometime. Also, you'll probably be interested in this: Canada: Discussion & Matchmaking | ||
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
On March 16 2009 12:10 Bill307 wrote: They used to sell them at Pacific Mall in Toronto / Richmond Hill. Not sure if they still do. Btw if you're in the GTA or Hamilton area, you should come out to one of our tournaments sometime. Also, you'll probably be interested in this: Canada: Discussion & Matchmaking well i live in mississauga lol, pacific mall is too too far from me, i don't drive, no job which ='s no money haha, and ill come to the tournament when i have money and when im actually good :3 | ||
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SayaSP
Laos5494 Posts
Also iloveroo tell me which ones you think are quick charges lololol. You mean like Headbutt into Ultra? | ||
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iloveroo
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darkmetal505
United States639 Posts
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iloveroo
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iloveroo
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
On March 16 2009 12:12 iloveroo wrote: well i live in mississauga lol, pacific mall is too too far from me, i don't drive, no job which ='s no money haha, and ill come to the tournament when i have money and when im actually good :3 Oh man, there are LOTS of fighting game players in sauga, many of whom I've met or I know personally. psychochronic, MDK, Altergenesis, and mtran66 (on weekends), to name a few, are all people I've played with many times before. As for TL peeps, Jesung (infinity21) lives in sauga, so you might be able to talk him into playing with you before he returns to Waterloo in May (although I think he might prefer Arcana Heart?  ). And Yaqoob really enjoyed playing SF4 at our LAN yesterday. I think he lives in Toronto-ish, but maybe he'll drive over to learn the game with you, since he's never really played fighting games before (the same goes for Jesung). | ||
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GranDim
Canada1214 Posts
On March 16 2009 13:28 iloveroo wrote: how do you do a focus cancel? You do you a focus attack right after the first hit of a special move. The time window can be very short on some move so you have to practice for a while. Right after the focus animation start you dash foward or backward to cancel it. | ||
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Siz)Beggar
United States339 Posts
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Etherone
United States1898 Posts
god it's been a while, but i have been hearing wonderful things about SF4. is it really worth a start? i tend to takes things kind of far, when i start them so i'd prefer not to unless i know 1 the game is actually decent 2 that there is going to be a helpful community with regular lans/tourneys nearby. i don't mind being owned for the first month(s) | ||
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
By my calculations, SF4 1st place (Justin Wong) won about $1,687. Considering he also won several other tournaments, iirc, he probably made almost $2000 this weekend -- travel costs excluded. There was also an SF4 tourney in Toronto this weekend, featuring 30 entrants and $105 for first place. Then there's another SF4 tourney in Hamilton coming up in 2 weeks which has 27 entrants so far. In fact, you're pretty much guaranteed at least 1 tournament per month, due to Hamilton's monthly tournaments. A similar thing may happen in Toronto, as well. To address your other point, considering how many high-profile players have picked it up and stuck with it since its arcade release 6 months ago, there's no question that the game is very good. Now personally, I always promote Arcana Heart as being more fun (for me, at least). With SF4 attracting so many new players, I'm hoping there will be some competitive ones who will get good and think, "Man, I wish this game was more offense-oriented / offered more mobility / didn't have revenge ultras / had better character balance / etc." and then I'll come in all like, "Hey, why don't you try this game instead..."  | ||
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ZoW
United States3983 Posts
He did it on a 360 pad too. =O | ||
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Trumpet
United States1935 Posts
If you pick it up with any consistency, you're almost guaranteed to make friends with 10 people or more you'd probably never have met or realized you had so much in common with. To address your specific questions, people have been willing to part with $1-$1.50 per match at arcades to play sf4 when most games are $.25, should give you an idea of how well received it is. As for depth, the most all top players have been sticking with 4 consistently for as long as its been out. Also, people have been holding regular SF2 tournaments longer than starcraft, to give you an idea of longevity. Also, a good point Bill brings up, once you learn a fighter, you'll be able to quickly pick up most any other. If you can play sf4 well, you could transition other fun fighters like Arcana Heart, Marvel vs Capcom 2, BlazBlue once it gets a console release (this summer, I'm hyped xD), or any number of other games that take the staple core that SF2 set up and create amazingly different and fun games without changing much of the core at all. | ||
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SayaSP
Laos5494 Posts
On March 16 2009 14:05 Siz)Beggar wrote: i have a xbox 360 and how the hell do i do guiles moves? open the move list. | ||
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Trumpet
United States1935 Posts
if he means the super / ultra, I completely understand haha. I actually got a text message from a friend a couple weeks ago asking the same question for those, its charge down back, then do down forward, down back, up forward + K (or KKK if its ultra). | ||
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SayaSP
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SayaSP
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On March 16 2009 12:56 iloveroo wrote: idk man haha, i know which one are charges, its just, i don't understand how they charge up so fast..? someone in this thread said that they save it up by keep holding back the whole time, is that true ? you seriously cant be "idk" you gotta be specific so we can help you understand Also, what GranDim said is true, except you can ex focus cancel (thats why you turn yellow) out of jabs even lolol. it uses up half of your super bar however, but can setup things like tick throws, extend combos, extend your life (lol) and things like that. also you can dash immediately after pressing mp+mk. youre gonna have to practice to do that on a pad however. | ||
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MCMcEmcee
United States1609 Posts
On March 16 2009 18:50 Bill307 wrote: better character balance lololol | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
On March 16 2009 11:49 iloveroo wrote: so what system do you play on 360 or ps3? and i thought you use a joystick ;o i do suck at stick. i mainly use pad since ive been using pad since i was 6 years old with SNES i play on PS3 ID is sung_moon | ||
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ohlala
Germany232 Posts
On March 16 2009 14:26 Etherone wrote: on a side note i live in GTA, and i haven't played fighting games since streetfighter 2 for snes god it's been a while, but i have been hearing wonderful things about SF4. is it really worth a start? i tend to takes things kind of far, when i start them so i'd prefer not to unless i know 1 the game is actually decent 2 that there is going to be a helpful community with regular lans/tourneys nearby. i don't mind being owned for the first month(s) i discovered SFIV about two weeks ago, and i must admit, it is a decent game. the SF2ish style makes me feel immature again. i feel like nothing ever happened since SNES. cant say much about frame data and many SF hardcore user complain about the lack of parry and air block, making SFIV supposedly worse than SF3s. the balance, despite those tiers, is ok afaik. i play low tier. still, its a great online game and a very hard single player too, unless you play gief :/ and yes you will be owned and for support check out shoryuken.com ♥VEGA♥ | ||
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
On March 16 2009 19:58 SayaSP wrote: you seriously cant be "idk" you gotta be specific so we can help you understand Also, what GranDim said is true, except you can ex focus cancel (thats why you turn yellow) out of jabs even lolol. it uses up half of your super bar however, but can setup things like tick throws, extend combos, extend your life (lol) and things like that. also you can dash immediately after pressing mp+mk. youre gonna have to practice to do that on a pad however. sorry im kinda lazy to explain, praciticing too much and/or im playing RE5 xP, how do you do "ex focus cancel" :3 i feel so noob right now. i think ex for the d-pad is L1?:S | ||
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
On March 16 2009 21:57 sung_moon wrote: i do suck at stick. i mainly use pad since ive been using pad since i was 6 years old with SNES i play on PS3 ID is sung_moon truee, is it alright if i add you on ps3? | ||
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
Yeah my bad, haven't been following SF4 much, checked SRK and it's actually balanced much better than I thought. <_< So apparently Viper is a GG character in SF4. Time to go try her out.  | ||
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MCMcEmcee
United States1609 Posts
On March 17 2009 04:20 Bill307 wrote: Yeah my bad, haven't been following SF4 much, checked SRK and it's actually balanced much better than I thought. <_< So apparently Viper is a GG character in SF4. Time to go try her out. I think you'll like Viper, she's a lot of fun! Though you do hit this wall where you get hit by random DPs/ultras and keep losing for a while and it's stupid frustrating. Once you find a balance between getting into your rhythm offensively and baiting out stupid random crap, it gets fun again~ | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
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MiniRoman
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SayaSP
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Scooter
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MCMcEmcee
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iloveroo
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
On March 17 2009 06:07 SayaSP wrote: AH is ps2 game lolol Thats the reason why i waited till sf4 to get into fighting. PS2 online sucked balls and no one around me played locally so there was no point in even bothering. No arcade in town with fighting games either. edit: f u too lololol | ||
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SayaSP
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but yeah hang with bill imo and then bb/kof12/t6 just around the corner hype | ||
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
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MCMcEmcee
United States1609 Posts
On March 17 2009 11:39 iloveroo wrote: people only play socom online for ps2 lolol and Monster Hunter! but yeah it's hard to get into fighting games without people to fight game with, but it seems you now have a nearby scene to check out so gogogo get hype | ||
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
... Actually wait, I know a couple of guys who travelled here from Detroit (iirc) once, and we ended up playing a bunch of Arcana Heart together. They also play Soul Calibur 4 and a little SF3:3s, and they probably play SF4 as well. If you want I can try to get their contact info for you. Then there's The Legendary Johnsons, who also live in Windsor. They are infamous thanks to a 2007 thread called 1st EVER Southwestern Ontario Regional Street Fighter Championship - Fighters Edge. Their SRK name was "TheLegendofLore". There are so many laughs in that thread.  Highlights include:+ Show Spoiler +
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
On March 17 2009 13:31 MCMcEmcee wrote: but it seems you now have a nearby scene to check out so gogogo get hype Yeah 3MC is right. Don't become another Emil. | ||
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Etherone
United States1898 Posts
I live in the GTA and Hamilton is a bit far,( T.T i don't drive), any idea of lans here? i am blowing my cash on a pc tomorrow, but after that next new acquisition will be a ps3 and SF4, sadly fighting games require consoles XD SO in roughly 2-3weeks i will be ready to get owned. and if i improve anything ^ ^ i will probably getting an arcade stick 1-2 week(s) after initial purchase. edit :im an idiot XD | ||
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Trumpet
United States1935 Posts
On March 17 2009 17:15 Etherone wrote: Thanks for replies. I live in the GTA and Hamilton is a bit far,( T.T i don't drive), any idea of lans here? i am blowing my cash on a pc tomorrow, but after that next new acquisition will be a ps3 and SF4, sadly fighting games require consoles XD SO in roughly 2-3weeks i will be ready to get owned. and if i improve anything ^ ^ i will probably getting an arcade stick 1-2 week(s) after initial purchase. edit :im an idiot XD If you don't have a PS3 yet and sf4 is what'd make you buy it, you may rather just wait for sf4 for pc before making such a big investment. I mean, I'd love to have another tler on the psn, but you would probably end up hating fighters in general if you made such a big investment and weren't happy with it | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=180694 ikuzo | ||
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anch
United States5457 Posts
On March 16 2009 21:57 sung_moon wrote: i do suck at stick. i mainly use pad since ive been using pad since i was 6 years old with SNES i play on PS3 ID is sung_moon what? so you got 4k BP Balrog with just the pad?? o_0 as the other day on PSN, i told you I got a adapter for PS3. Now I can use my Tekken 5 stick. (does not improve my game, lol?) Headbutt -> Ultra is much more smooth, but then I lost my ability to dash punch xx Super. | ||
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SayaSP
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
On March 18 2009 12:09 anch wrote: what? so you got 4k BP Balrog with just the pad?? o_0 as the other day on PSN, i told you I got a adapter for PS3. Now I can use my Tekken 5 stick. (does not improve my game, lol?) Headbutt -> Ultra is much more smooth, but then I lost my ability to dash punch xx Super. yea.... pad is just natural for me.... my execution is shit garbage when i use stick ive also officially given up on ranked matches..... the quitting is ridiculous especially in the 3KBP+ we gotta play again sometime dude.... even thou i hate rogvsrog | ||
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
http://gootecks.com/audio/gootecks.com-street_fighter_podcast-20-mike_ross.mp3 | ||
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Etherone
United States1898 Posts
On March 18 2009 07:41 Trumpet wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 17 2009 17:15 Etherone wrote: Thanks for replies. I live in the GTA and Hamilton is a bit far,( T.T i don't drive), any idea of lans here? i am blowing my cash on a pc tomorrow, but after that next new acquisition will be a ps3 and SF4, sadly fighting games require consoles XD SO in roughly 2-3weeks i will be ready to get owned. and if i improve anything ^ ^ i will probably getting an arcade stick 1-2 week(s) after initial purchase. edit :im an idiot XD If you don't have a PS3 yet and sf4 is what'd make you buy it, you may rather just wait for sf4 for pc before making such a big investment. I mean, I'd love to have another tler on the psn, but you would probably end up hating fighters in general if you made such a big investment and weren't happy with it LOL too late. since where i was gonna buy the PC parts was closed today, i blew my cash on Ps3 and SF4 XD I started with hardest, and got to the 3rd round without dieing, but then got raped steadily for 2 hours. then switched to easy and beat everyone up to seth without dieing, and then i got raped by him 6 times, after which i decided it was time to stop for today before i get obsessed on the first day. I will be brushing up on theory and tricks of the trade. it has officially dawned on me that i suck, and this will take time, but the game has me enthralled, so i am happy. I used ryu the whole time, and chun li once (i sucked really bad with her). I will only show my face on psn after i can beat arcade on hardest steadily, so it may be a while XD, unless of course someone explains to me it is unwise. | ||
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
Play vs people here for practice. | ||
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Etherone
United States1898 Posts
On March 18 2009 14:00 MiniRoman wrote: Eh you will get better faster imo if you play better players. Just watching what they do can give you inspiration. Ex: they walk up throw you 5x you may start to walk up throw people. Computers are good for reflex trainning but they dont fight like real people fight. Do both I say. Play vs people here for practice. I suck, i mean i lost 3rd round hardest 17354 times, i need reflex training, but i understand where you and saya are coming from, so i guess ill just stick to arcade till i can do decent combos on hardest? i just really don't want to suck up the net. it's not about records, they mean nothing thanks. | ||
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Etherone
United States1898 Posts
On March 18 2009 15:47 SayaSP wrote: Think about practicing in BW, it's the same thing. If you really want to do combos, get them down in training mode then play online. You say its not about the records yet you don't want to suck online. Lol. i don't know how fast, or effective the matching up in psn is, but if it's anything like dow2 the time wasted waiting for a game, just to have some guy who can't focus cancel into any combo, is a pain to say the least. and i prefer to lose a good game then to win a bad one. | ||
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stk01001
United States786 Posts
On March 18 2009 15:41 Etherone wrote: I suck, i mean i lost 3rd round hardest 17354 times, i need reflex training, but i understand where you and saya are coming from, so i guess ill just stick to arcade till i can do decent combos on hardest? i just really don't want to suck up the net. it's not about records, they mean nothing thanks. dude why do you even care, I went and played online matches the first day I got the game. No one is going to care if you aren't an expert... sounds like your just afraid of losing or you do care about your record, even though you claim you don't... otherwise why would you avoid playing online completely.. | ||
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zizou21
United States3683 Posts
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_PulSe_
United States541 Posts
On March 19 2009 01:39 zizou21 wrote: this just struck me: why dont they release Mvc2 on next gen? fuck that would b incredible http://www.videogamer.com/news/capcom_were_not_done_with_hd_remixes.html you may be in luck. It will probably be a while but yea. Should happen sometime in the future if all goes well. | ||
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
On March 19 2009 01:39 zizou21 wrote: this just struck me: why dont they release Mvc2 on next gen? fuck that would b incredible Only if they ported the arcade/Dreamcast version with all its original "bugs" intact, because that's the only version anyone plays. The PS2 version with its "bugfixes" is vastly different. It's practically a different game. Edit: shouldn't this discussion be in the OFGMV topic? | ||
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ZoW
United States3983 Posts
On March 19 2009 01:39 zizou21 wrote: this just struck me: why dont they release Mvc2 on next gen? fuck that would b incredible They are. Mr. Wiz said "We won't be using the ps2 or xbox versions(of mvc2). I will also be throwing all the dreamcasts in a pile and burning them before evo". On March 19 2009 02:22 H wrote: I'm probably in the minority but I was really hoping MvC2 would just quietly die on its own so people would move on to games I actually play It won't. People will always come back to it every now and then, because its just that good. | ||
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zizou21
United States3683 Posts
On March 19 2009 03:11 ZoW wrote: They are. Mr. Wiz said "We won't be using the ps2 or xbox versions(of mvc2). I will also be throwing all the dreamcasts in a pile and burning them before evo". It won't. People will always come back to it every now and then, because its just that good. no way!! they are? who is mr.wiz? whats wrong w the ps2/xbox/dreamcast version? which one is arcade version? when is this coming out O_O? | ||
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ZoW
United States3983 Posts
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=6203459&postcount=593 | ||
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Trumpet
United States1935 Posts
Also, playing vs computers is terrible. They're fucking stupid 100% of the time and teach you terrible terrible habits (PPP lariat with geif backwards then forwards, CPU will attempt to focus it and get hit every single time from full health to 0 as most characters even on hardest). Instead, play some TL members! I'd be down for helping someone learn on PSN, tag is TheEvilTree I'll even hook up a headset to explain some basics while we play if you want :D | ||
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
how do you do a ex dash punch, into dash punch for balrog?;o and how do you do dash punch, into a ex dash punch ? ;o and how do you do 2 dash punches in a row ?;o and how do you do a dash punch into a a super?;o haha sorry if i asked 4 questions in a row, just lazy to write them all seperate. and sorry if i called it a dash punch, i know the real names but yeah their all punches | ||
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Trumpet
United States1935 Posts
To dash punch into super, you just do charge back, forward + P (this give you a dash punch), back (not charging), forward + P (will give you the super). The motions overlap and the input counts for both, letting you do 2 different moves that you have to charge off of the same charge. | ||
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
On March 20 2009 08:50 Trumpet wrote: One thing that will probably make things make a lot more sense to you is knowing about his turn around punch (TAP). Any time you see balrog actually do a little spin at the start of his dash punch, it's a tap, not a dash punch. TAPs aren't done by charging, they're done by pressing then releasing all three punches or kicks at once. (they also go through fireballs in their startup). When you saw 2 dash punches in a row, you probably saw a TAP into a dash punch, in which case the balrog is just charging even before the TAP comes out. (that's what's happening at 0:50) To dash punch into super, you just do charge back, forward + P (this give you a dash punch), back (not charging), forward + P (will give you the super). The motions overlap and the input counts for both, letting you do 2 different moves that you have to charge off of the same charge. haha thanks, sorry if im asking noob questions but yeah, i get lazy looking around, trying to find my answers, instead of looking around i just practice random shit on training mode, so yeah, but when in the vid looks like he does 2 dash punches in a row ;o ooh thanks dude, i shall practice that now | ||
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iloveroo
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iloveroo
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how do you do the combo at 0:13, was trying it a few times today aswell :3 | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
tbh i not really into doing more than one ex upper in a combo but ive seen players do it 4 times so yea lol.... it takes some time to get used to linking the jab after the ex upper iloveroo try practicing using rog's hard trial mode most of the combo's are mainly for show and meter-eaters but rog's #5 combo is actually useful | ||
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m!st
Australia95 Posts
On March 15 2009 15:00 blabber wrote: I'm pretty sure that every SF4 player says that the 360 controller is the worst possible controller you can use for SF arcade stick is the best but ps3 controllers are terrible, because there is a d-pad on it but there is no diagnol buttons on the d-pad. xbox controllers are the only things that are acceptable, all sticks on controllers are just terrible for high level comboing but d-pad is good but not on the ps3. ps3 is good for noob fighting games. not sf4 or doa4. all sf4 players that are any good use arcade style controllers so they cant say xbox are bad. | ||
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MCMcEmcee
United States1609 Posts
Anyways XBL peeps who want games, send an invite to McMcEmcee on XBL. | ||
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
On March 20 2009 12:18 m!st wrote: all sf4 players that are any good use arcade style controllers so they cant say xbox are bad. Wrong. There are always good, even great players who stay with pad 'cause that's what they're best with. Most use joysticks, but not all. | ||
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New Zealand6138 Posts
On March 20 2009 12:18 m!st wrote: ps3 is good for noob fighting games. what the hell are you talking about. | ||
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ZoW
United States3983 Posts
On March 20 2009 12:18 m!st wrote: ps3 is good for noob fighting games. This made me lol | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
On March 20 2009 12:18 m!st wrote: arcade stick is the best but ps3 controllers are terrible, because there is a d-pad on it but there is no diagnol buttons on the d-pad. xbox controllers are the only things that are acceptable, all sticks on controllers are just terrible for high level comboing but d-pad is good but not on the ps3. ps3 is good for noob fighting games. not sf4 or doa4. all sf4 players that are any good use arcade style controllers so they cant say xbox are bad. wtf... i want to play you so badly on my "sucky" ps3 pad...... | ||
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
On March 20 2009 11:41 sung_moon wrote: after u do ex upper immediately hold d/b and do 2 jabs and repeat tbh i not really into doing more than one ex upper in a combo but ive seen players do it 4 times so yea lol.... it takes some time to get used to linking the jab after the ex upper iloveroo try practicing using rog's hard trial mode most of the combo's are mainly for show and meter-eaters but rog's #5 combo is actually useful lol yeah it seems hard, but i atleast want to do 2 in a row so when i get pissed at someone haha bleeh i try to do his trail mode's each time i do it, it doesn't come out a combo and it dustrates me cause i spend like 30 mins just trying to do 1 stupid ez combo. even though im doing it quickly, but yeah i gotta practice that headbutt into ultra, can never seem to get it perfect, even though i know what to do xP | ||
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