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iloveroo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada294 Posts
March 16 2009 00:10 GMT
#41
On March 16 2009 08:20 [X]Ken_D wrote:
There are tricks to give you faster consecutive charges. Like if u charge 2 sec B, F, B + punch/kick instead of just B, F + punch/kick.

A stick is worth the investment if you plan to keep playing SF4 for a long time or buy more fighting games in the future.

but the thing is i see videos on youtube, some people charge for .. not even a second. i don't get it..
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
March 16 2009 00:11 GMT
#42
Don't say "I saw in videos" link us some, or remember what the videos were or the moves/combos they were doing.
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
Scooter
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States747 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-16 00:23:58
March 16 2009 00:23 GMT
#43
On March 16 2009 09:10 iloveroo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2009 08:20 [X]Ken_D wrote:
There are tricks to give you faster consecutive charges. Like if u charge 2 sec B, F, B + punch/kick instead of just B, F + punch/kick.

A stick is worth the investment if you plan to keep playing SF4 for a long time or buy more fighting games in the future.

but the thing is i see videos on youtube, some people charge for .. not even a second. i don't get it..


the only situation I can think of that would even look like that is if a character was walking forward then suddenly bust out out a charge back move, something I've never seen and is impossible. In any other situation, a charge move is possible. Even if you're crossed up, if you do the charge move fast enough your character will do it in the correct direction (towards the crosser up character). What you're seeing is people charge attacks during combos and releasing.

here's an advanced example:



he's holding db during the cr.light punches then doing ex rush punch, then immediately holding back again.
My unblocks gets yo curleh mustache wet のωの
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
March 16 2009 00:38 GMT
#44
On March 15 2009 22:58 iloveroo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2009 18:51 ZoW wrote:
Depends on how you play/how much your willing to commit. Ask yourself:
Have you used a stick before?
Are you just going to play SF4 for a few months and then stop?
Do you have plans on playing competitively?
Do you play any other fighting games?

The truth is that sticks are better than pads, both in speed and execution. However an arcade stick is a hefty investment, if you don't play competitively or are just a casual player, I don't think you should get one.

too be honest, i don't know, i was thinking about getting the arcade joystick(non tournament) since its not at a three digit.
And like i said i just got the game yesterday, i've fasted so much ken people that owned me, so i thought they used a joystick, because they are doing such nice combos, so i was suggesting for myself to get a joystick aswell


Have you used a stick before? If you haven't, it takes a while to get used to. Maybe a week or 2 before you start getting consistent with it.Your probably going to play worse on it than the pad for a little while. A stick is just another type of controller, and not going magically make you do combos and win.
+ Show Spoiler [Common misconception of an arcade stick] +
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To tell you the truth, any stick that doesn't cost 100+ is really bad. I have a Madcatz SE modded with Japanese parts, it cost me a little over 130. But, If you want to play casually, and are okay with lower quality, by all means get one that's cheap. If you decide to get more serious you can upgrade or mod it with better parts.
the courage to be a lazy bum
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
March 16 2009 00:50 GMT
#45
oooo ZoW I was about to say the sameeeeeeee thing but I didn't have any pictures so thanks~

I just use pad and I can do TKCannon spikes finally and some kara-throws, it just takes getting used to and callouses like people have said.

sung_moon is the best guy I ever played and the only times I could take games from him in SF2HD were when he was on stick ;P, uses ps3 pad for 4.

practice practice practice
Nak Allstar.
iloveroo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada294 Posts
March 16 2009 01:50 GMT
#46
On March 16 2009 09:11 SayaSP wrote:
Don't say "I saw in videos" link us some, or remember what the videos were or the moves/combos they were doing.

lol i lost them, too lazy to find them
iloveroo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada294 Posts
March 16 2009 01:52 GMT
#47
for the ps3 controller. how do you do the ex? cause i tried pressing lp/mp etc twice and it wouldn't work, i tried several times. so instead i just use L1 :3
iloveroo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada294 Posts
March 16 2009 02:09 GMT
#48
iloveroo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada294 Posts
March 16 2009 02:10 GMT
#49
^ i think that has some really quick charges couldn't tell, and whats a "focus cancel" 4:10-4:30
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
March 16 2009 02:32 GMT
#50
On March 16 2009 09:50 MiniRoman wrote:
oooo ZoW I was about to say the sameeeeeeee thing but I didn't have any pictures so thanks~

I just use pad and I can do TKCannon spikes finally and some kara-throws, it just takes getting used to and callouses like people have said.

sung_moon is the best guy I ever played and the only times I could take games from him in SF2HD were when he was on stick ;P, uses ps3 pad for 4.

practice practice practice


stop it roman your embarrassing me

charging with pad takes a lil practice to get used to
for rog most of the time i can do regular b/f or d/u with charge partioning like urien in 3S
get used to ALWAYS having charge no matter wht. whether u are throwing, focusing, jabbing, jumping, etc.
Forever Young
iloveroo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada294 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-16 02:33:54
March 16 2009 02:33 GMT
#51
iloveroo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada294 Posts
March 16 2009 02:35 GMT
#52
On March 16 2009 11:32 sung_moon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2009 09:50 MiniRoman wrote:
oooo ZoW I was about to say the sameeeeeeee thing but I didn't have any pictures so thanks~

I just use pad and I can do TKCannon spikes finally and some kara-throws, it just takes getting used to and callouses like people have said.

sung_moon is the best guy I ever played and the only times I could take games from him in SF2HD were when he was on stick ;P, uses ps3 pad for 4.

practice practice practice


stop it roman your embarrassing me

charging with pad takes a lil practice to get used to
for rog most of the time i can do regular b/f or d/u with charge partioning like urien in 3S
get used to ALWAYS having charge no matter wht. whether u are throwing, focusing, jabbing, jumping, etc.

your main is balrog?
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
March 16 2009 02:38 GMT
#53
On March 16 2009 11:35 iloveroo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2009 11:32 sung_moon wrote:
On March 16 2009 09:50 MiniRoman wrote:
oooo ZoW I was about to say the sameeeeeeee thing but I didn't have any pictures so thanks~

I just use pad and I can do TKCannon spikes finally and some kara-throws, it just takes getting used to and callouses like people have said.

sung_moon is the best guy I ever played and the only times I could take games from him in SF2HD were when he was on stick ;P, uses ps3 pad for 4.

practice practice practice


stop it roman your embarrassing me

charging with pad takes a lil practice to get used to
for rog most of the time i can do regular b/f or d/u with charge partioning like urien in 3S
get used to ALWAYS having charge no matter wht. whether u are throwing, focusing, jabbing, jumping, etc.

your main is balrog?


yea. i mainly use rog and rufus.... chun-li and sagat are fun thou
Forever Young
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
March 16 2009 02:40 GMT
#54
On March 15 2009 22:58 iloveroo wrote:
too be honest, i don't know, i was thinking about getting the arcade joystick(non tournament) since its not at a three digit.
And like i said i just got the game yesterday, i've fasted so much ken people that owned me, so i thought they used a joystick, because they are doing such nice combos, so i was suggesting for myself to get a joystick aswell

First of all, do NOT buy the Madcatz SE stick: it is garbage.

If anything, consider buying a $50-$60 Hori fighting stick, or an $80 Hori Tekken 5 stick (PS2) + lag-free PS2-to-PS3 adapter.

The Hori T5 stick is actually pretty good. The cheaper ones... imo don't buy those unless you have a proper table or something to place it on. Their lighter weight makes them very difficult to use on your lap.

That said, most low-level players you face will be using a pad. There are some fighting game players who are very good on pad, even.


Ultimately, I think you should ask yourself: do you want to get good at SF4 or any 2D fighting game? Are you passionate about becoming a player who can compete in offline tournaments? If the answer is yes, then get a stick. The earlier you start learning to use a stick, the better. If the answer is no, then for the sake of saving money, you might want to avoid getting a stick.

Lastly, good luck in SF4.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
March 16 2009 02:42 GMT
#55
even thou i suck at stick heres one i got from my best friend from japan for 50$ its really fuckin good and responsive
http://www.elecom.co.jp/news/200705/jc-as01/image/JC-AS01BK_01L.jpg
Forever Young
iloveroo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada294 Posts
March 16 2009 02:46 GMT
#56
On March 16 2009 11:38 sung_moon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2009 11:35 iloveroo wrote:
On March 16 2009 11:32 sung_moon wrote:
On March 16 2009 09:50 MiniRoman wrote:
oooo ZoW I was about to say the sameeeeeeee thing but I didn't have any pictures so thanks~

I just use pad and I can do TKCannon spikes finally and some kara-throws, it just takes getting used to and callouses like people have said.

sung_moon is the best guy I ever played and the only times I could take games from him in SF2HD were when he was on stick ;P, uses ps3 pad for 4.

practice practice practice


stop it roman your embarrassing me

charging with pad takes a lil practice to get used to
for rog most of the time i can do regular b/f or d/u with charge partioning like urien in 3S
get used to ALWAYS having charge no matter wht. whether u are throwing, focusing, jabbing, jumping, etc.

your main is balrog?


yea. i mainly use rog and rufus.... chun-li and sagat are fun thou

hmm cool, yeah im trying to main balrog w/ a ps3 controller so hard to do those ex dash combos and shit -.-, all my combos are just jabs and sweeps none of the fancy things
iloveroo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada294 Posts
March 16 2009 02:48 GMT
#57
On March 16 2009 11:40 Bill307 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2009 22:58 iloveroo wrote:
too be honest, i don't know, i was thinking about getting the arcade joystick(non tournament) since its not at a three digit.
And like i said i just got the game yesterday, i've fasted so much ken people that owned me, so i thought they used a joystick, because they are doing such nice combos, so i was suggesting for myself to get a joystick aswell

First of all, do NOT buy the Madcatz SE stick: it is garbage.

If anything, consider buying a $50-$60 Hori fighting stick, or an $80 Hori Tekken 5 stick (PS2) + lag-free PS2-to-PS3 adapter.

The Hori T5 stick is actually pretty good. The cheaper ones... imo don't buy those unless you have a proper table or something to place it on. Their lighter weight makes them very difficult to use on your lap.

That said, most low-level players you face will be using a pad. There are some fighting game players who are very good on pad, even.


Ultimately, I think you should ask yourself: do you want to get good at SF4 or any 2D fighting game? Are you passionate about becoming a player who can compete in offline tournaments? If the answer is yes, then get a stick. The earlier you start learning to use a stick, the better. If the answer is no, then for the sake of saving money, you might want to avoid getting a stick.

Lastly, good luck in SF4.

may i ask where do buy a hori fighting stick? do i buy it online or is there a place in "ontario" that i can buy it from , i don't really trust the online buying shit xP
iloveroo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada294 Posts
March 16 2009 02:49 GMT
#58
On March 16 2009 11:42 sung_moon wrote:
even thou i suck at stick heres one i got from my best friend from japan for 50$ its really fuckin good and responsive
http://www.elecom.co.jp/news/200705/jc-as01/image/JC-AS01BK_01L.jpg

so what system do you play on 360 or ps3? and i thought you use a joystick ;o
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
March 16 2009 03:10 GMT
#59
On March 16 2009 11:48 iloveroo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2009 11:40 Bill307 wrote:
On March 15 2009 22:58 iloveroo wrote:
too be honest, i don't know, i was thinking about getting the arcade joystick(non tournament) since its not at a three digit.
And like i said i just got the game yesterday, i've fasted so much ken people that owned me, so i thought they used a joystick, because they are doing such nice combos, so i was suggesting for myself to get a joystick aswell

First of all, do NOT buy the Madcatz SE stick: it is garbage.

If anything, consider buying a $50-$60 Hori fighting stick, or an $80 Hori Tekken 5 stick (PS2) + lag-free PS2-to-PS3 adapter.

The Hori T5 stick is actually pretty good. The cheaper ones... imo don't buy those unless you have a proper table or something to place it on. Their lighter weight makes them very difficult to use on your lap.

That said, most low-level players you face will be using a pad. There are some fighting game players who are very good on pad, even.


Ultimately, I think you should ask yourself: do you want to get good at SF4 or any 2D fighting game? Are you passionate about becoming a player who can compete in offline tournaments? If the answer is yes, then get a stick. The earlier you start learning to use a stick, the better. If the answer is no, then for the sake of saving money, you might want to avoid getting a stick.

Lastly, good luck in SF4.

may i ask where do buy a hori fighting stick? do i buy it online or is there a place in "ontario" that i can buy it from , i don't really trust the online buying shit xP

They used to sell them at Pacific Mall in Toronto / Richmond Hill. Not sure if they still do.

Btw if you're in the GTA or Hamilton area, you should come out to one of our tournaments sometime.

Also, you'll probably be interested in this:
Canada: Discussion & Matchmaking
iloveroo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada294 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-16 03:13:42
March 16 2009 03:12 GMT
#60
On March 16 2009 12:10 Bill307 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2009 11:48 iloveroo wrote:
On March 16 2009 11:40 Bill307 wrote:
On March 15 2009 22:58 iloveroo wrote:
too be honest, i don't know, i was thinking about getting the arcade joystick(non tournament) since its not at a three digit.
And like i said i just got the game yesterday, i've fasted so much ken people that owned me, so i thought they used a joystick, because they are doing such nice combos, so i was suggesting for myself to get a joystick aswell

First of all, do NOT buy the Madcatz SE stick: it is garbage.

If anything, consider buying a $50-$60 Hori fighting stick, or an $80 Hori Tekken 5 stick (PS2) + lag-free PS2-to-PS3 adapter.

The Hori T5 stick is actually pretty good. The cheaper ones... imo don't buy those unless you have a proper table or something to place it on. Their lighter weight makes them very difficult to use on your lap.

That said, most low-level players you face will be using a pad. There are some fighting game players who are very good on pad, even.


Ultimately, I think you should ask yourself: do you want to get good at SF4 or any 2D fighting game? Are you passionate about becoming a player who can compete in offline tournaments? If the answer is yes, then get a stick. The earlier you start learning to use a stick, the better. If the answer is no, then for the sake of saving money, you might want to avoid getting a stick.

Lastly, good luck in SF4.

may i ask where do buy a hori fighting stick? do i buy it online or is there a place in "ontario" that i can buy it from , i don't really trust the online buying shit xP

They used to sell them at Pacific Mall in Toronto / Richmond Hill. Not sure if they still do.

Btw if you're in the GTA or Hamilton area, you should come out to one of our tournaments sometime.

Also, you'll probably be interested in this:
Canada: Discussion & Matchmaking

well i live in mississauga lol, pacific mall is too too far from me, i don't drive, no job which ='s no money haha, and ill come to the tournament when i have money and when im actually good :3
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