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Divine-Sneaker
Denmark1225 Posts
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Azerbaijan
United States660 Posts
In the meantime I am trying to get some more isk coming in through missions. I just got to level 4s and my AC Mael is doing ok but only in angel missions. Everything else takes too long trying to chase things down with only an AB. Eventually I want a mach but thats going to be a while I think unless my trading goes really well. Alternatively I was chatting with some guys in supply depot and they mentioned that FW can be pretty reliable for making isk. I am interested in trying it out but my pvp experience is limited to scouting and tackling in rifters which sadly get wrecked by every other t1 frigate now. Are minmatar t1 cruisers viable? I am kind of confined to minmatar ships. I can fly drakes but I have poor missile skills :/ So right now I'm trying to decide if I should train up t2 AC for my mael or if I should cross train into lasers/missiles for FW either way I have about a month to go. The caracal seems strong but I kind of really want to try out a slicer. Ultimately my main concern is being able to plex two accounts with enough left over to spend on pvp. Can I do that with Trading + FW or should I focus on Trade + Missioning? | ||
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Warri
Germany3208 Posts
and german article http://www.sueddeutsche.de/digital/computerspiel-eve-online-spieler-bestreiten-groesstes-weltraumgefecht-der-geschichte-1.1733639 Its awesome how much coverage this gets, i bet the people who wrote those articles are eve players themselves. | ||
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Oshuy
Netherlands529 Posts
French coverage in "le monde" (an "official blog" linked from the main news page). This one is a translation of the BBC text. | ||
KwarK
United States41982 Posts
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Omigawa
United States1556 Posts
Gevlon: If you are a member of a stable coalition (as opposed to a temporary cooperation of separate entities, like BL and PL at Asakai), and the leadership isn't from your group, you are a pet. Maybe a well-treated one, but still a pet. They might even "jokingly" use the N-word or other racist/sexist slurs on you. It is not funny. Not at all. Because TEST/Dreddit/reddit at large doesn't routinely use racist/sexist/homophobic slurs for no other reason than "FREE SPEECH!!" Edit: On July 30 2013 20:42 KwarK wrote: Greedygoblin lacks even a basic understanding of the principle of opportunity cost. He should not be trusted on any subject, not even station trading. Add self-awareness to the list of things Gevlon completely lacks. | ||
Antoine
United States7481 Posts
On July 30 2013 20:00 Warri wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23489293 and german article http://www.sueddeutsche.de/digital/computerspiel-eve-online-spieler-bestreiten-groesstes-weltraumgefecht-der-geschichte-1.1733639 Its awesome how much coverage this gets, i bet the people who wrote those articles are eve players themselves. I know the bbc one was primarily written by Wey'oun from Shadow Cartel; he had to dumb it down to get it past his boss | ||
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KwarK
United States41982 Posts
I'm saying that the current empire of The Mittani is space-racist. SPACISM! | ||
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incifan
Germany138 Posts
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SilentchiLL
Germany1405 Posts
I don't say that the line goons were naturally evil (that would be space-racism itself), I'm saying that the current empire of The Mittani is space-racist. This guy is hilarious | ||
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KwarK
United States41982 Posts
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DefMatrixUltra
Canada1992 Posts
On July 30 2013 18:46 KwarK wrote: It's comparable to being lower middle class in a society with shitty social mobility vs born free in Africa. A member of FA won't ascend to the ruling elite any time soon but they still have a much richer, more stable life than most. Nobody is about to take their space and their quality of life is actually really fucking high compared to much of eve. They don't pay rent and they have a bunch of good space. And CFC would take all that away in instant if it served their purposes. | ||
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SilentchiLL
Germany1405 Posts
On July 31 2013 04:58 DefMatrixUltra wrote: And CFC would take all that away in instant if it served their purposes. DEATH TO THE OPPRESSORS! Does anybody know how high the chances for a revolution are? | ||
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KwarK
United States41982 Posts
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Not_Computer
Canada2277 Posts
On July 30 2013 19:03 Divine-Sneaker wrote: If you want to hear about big wars and intrigue, read the eve metagaming thread if you haven't already. I'm sure someone knows where to find it. I don't have the link saved, but it's a pretty interesting read. There's a link at the bottom of this thread's OP. On July 30 2013 19:51 Azerbaijan wrote: So right now I'm trying to decide if I should train up t2 AC for my mael or if I should cross train into lasers/missiles for FW either way I have about a month to go. The caracal seems strong but I kind of really want to try out a slicer. Ultimately my main concern is being able to plex two accounts with enough left over to spend on pvp. Can I do that with Trading + FW or should I focus on Trade + Missioning? You can do FW complexes in a cheap t1 frigate or destroyer. Sure the rewards aren't as great as Level 4 Missions but the amount of effort involved and starting resources required is far less. One could even argue that AFK plexing is more profit per effort. You can plex a dozen accounts if you are hardcore with Trading + FW or Trading + Missioning. What's great about EVE is that it rewards people that grab opportunities. The average EVE player is quite lazy in making isk and would rather grind or 0.01 ISK trade their 30m/hr income for hours a day. Meanwhile there are people that do their research, find opportunities, and make 10x that amount in even less time. And then there are people that are too lazy to make any ISK and live the life of a space peasant. On July 31 2013 03:53 KwarK wrote: Who owns the SP pocos? Need some toons set up with 0% tax. Is there a tax on them if they're in SP? Is it done by standings? Can I just get the toons set blue? Didn't someone mention a couple weeks/months ago that SP's pocos got bashed and nobody did anything about it? Do we even own a single poco anymore? | ||
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jopirg
United States81 Posts
On July 30 2013 17:44 lichter wrote: I have around 10m ISK. What ship should I buy (Minmatar) If you're doing FW get a slasher. I'll let someone who actually uses them post a fit for you. | ||
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DefMatrixUltra
Canada1992 Posts
On July 31 2013 05:42 KwarK wrote: And the 1% would take all the money if it served their purposes but people would burn them alive in their mansions if they did. The CFC let their allies have space, relative autonomy and a decent portion of the profits of victory because it keeps the coalition strong. I'm going to make use of your analogy. The 1% certainly do already take all the money. No one has been burned alive in their mansions because there is a disconnect (by design) between things that take place and the (manufactured) perceptions the general populace has about those things and the motives and purposes behind them. If everyone stood up at once and presented their dissatisfaction with vigor, it would all fall apart overnight. But that doesn't happen. If a small group goes on a mansion-burning crusade, they'll be demonized and dismissed as radicals. Never mind that they value the interests of the many above the interests of the few - that's not even worth mentioning. There you have the explanation for the first sentence of this paragraph. The same principle applies to CFC. Goon proper finances the campaigns of the candidates they like against the candidates they don't like. They sponsor and suggest the laws that allow them to retain or improve their situation. If someone they dislike is threatening to come into office, all everyone will ever hear about is how lazy/incompetent/immoral/villainous that person is. Demons are not born, they are made. This nice, gradual way of letting everyone know who the good guys are and the terrible things that happen to bad guys is what keeps things running smoothly - never mind that everyone is a bad guy and the idea is to pick the bad guy that most closely aligns with you. | ||
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SilentchiLL
Germany1405 Posts
On July 31 2013 07:33 DefMatrixUltra wrote: The same principle applies to CFC. Goon proper finances the campaigns of the candidates they like against the candidates they don't like. They sponsor and suggest the laws that allow them to retain or improve their situation. If someone they dislike is threatening to come into office, all everyone will ever hear about is how lazy/incompetent/immoral/villainous that person is. Demons are not born, they are made. This nice, gradual way of letting everyone know who the good guys are and the terrible things that happen to bad guys is what keeps things running smoothly - never mind that everyone is a bad guy and the idea is to pick the bad guy that most closely aligns with you. Do they actually do that? And if so, where's the insider info from? Are there already blogs of failed eve politicians who want to support the rise of the people? | ||
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DefMatrixUltra
Canada1992 Posts
On July 31 2013 07:41 SilentchiLL wrote: Do they actually do that? And if so, where's the insider info from? Are there already blogs of failed eve politicians who want to support the rise of the people? It's an analogy. You're taking it too literally. The actions I describe are what lobbyists do in reality and have no literal relation with EVE. | ||
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SilentchiLL
Germany1405 Posts
On July 31 2013 08:02 DefMatrixUltra wrote: It's an analogy. You're taking it too literally. The actions I describe are what lobbyists do in reality and have no literal relation with EVE. I kinda thought so, but since it would be such an effective way of managing an alliance from the mightiest position without becoming an open dictature I thought they may have been smart enough to pull that off. Of course it would be a lot easier with accounts/players from the goons in all of those corps to increase your influence in them and make it easier to manipulate the powerbalance in the petcorps. EDIT: And we all know that there can never be enough drama in the universe :3 | ||
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