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On July 12 2013 03:50 Invol2ver wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 03:34 Shootemup. wrote:
The main issue is that the sites don't respawn that quickly. You would clear out your 10-15 initial sites then get maybe one more each day, and individual C3 sites aren't worth much. Like Tofu said, if you want to make money living in low class WHs you need to be able to chain collapse and farm your static. If you are considering using caps, just find some empty C5 (most C5s are empty) and do cap escalations. Bare minimum you can do them with a couple lokis, a triage archon, and two or three dreads. This was my concern. I didn't think the sites respawned very quickly at all which is quickly going to diminish the value of your carrier since you cant jump it out your static to assist. Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 03:39 KwarK wrote:
What I have in mind is pretty much single player eve. This was pretty much what I had in mind too. But didnt know what you were thinking, or the respawn rates of sites. Running C5 cap escalations with carriers and dreads and webs is not really feasible for one person...at least not while maintaining my sanity. I was considering as early as next week to start searching for a hole and dropping a tower on my own. I figure one person and 3 accounts ought to be able to make a pretty good go of it...maybe the logistics will be too much, but we'll see. I'm bored.
The logistics aren't too bad, an Orca can hold a full month of fuel for a large pos and have room to spare, so you don't need to leave often.
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There's not all that much money in farming a C3. Back when I used to run C3 sites, I made (before salvage/arch sites) just under 30M per anomaly and just under 60M per archeology site. If you salvage, that number increases by approximately 75%, maybe? It's not terrible money, but it's definitely not "let me build a carrier in this thing and farm it once a week and be hatchury spacerich" money.
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So I've decided to educate some and have found that C3s do not come with W-space statics, only high/low/null. I'm sure this is common knowledge but that means that a C3 would probably work quite well for kwark's application.
I think I'm going to look for a C2 with a low/C3 static myself...
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On July 12 2013 05:19 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 04:47 DefMatrixUltra wrote:On July 12 2013 04:14 KwarK wrote:
btw my FA corp just proposed a doctrine fleet of the following
Maller
4x Focused Medium Pulse Laser I
2x Cap Recharger II
1x 10MN meta mwd
1x DCU II
2x ANP II
1x 1600 tungsten
1x EANM II
1x meta explosive active armour hardener
3x trimark
5x Scorch S
When I mentioned its inability to hold tackle on things I was told that there would be other ships in the fleet to fill the roles the maller can't do but it would form the core of the fleet. It's ok because there are other ships in the fleet to fill the role of DPS as well. :CSDW: That's the joke.jpg His reasoning was literally that the first fleets inability to do anything would be mitigated by an entire second fleet of various ships in correct fits which would be a well rounded and capable fleet and would patch up any gaps left by the fit of the Maller fleet. I didn't know how to argue against that.
There are many fleets in this fleet. The Maller fleet is the flagship fleet, though. It's the fleet that has nothing but flags which wave menacingly at their foes. It wins the real battle - the battle of the mind.
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Tomorrows news today:
Kwark rents system from CFC, alliance named "THE SCORCH REPUBLIC",Makes his personal station public access, stocks it with jita, charges 100mil for 1 year of access, bubble camps his own station with 10 oracles for anyone who decides to use it without paying.
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So I've not played for a couple years, and even then was around for only a couple months during the oddelulf days.
Is it worth me bringing my old rifter fodder account back to life? Or would I be better off starting from scratch with someones 21day trial? Another issue to consider is that I donated pretty much my entire net worth to the guy that had been running salvage missions for me, so there really isn't anything but two months of skills to come back to.
*Edit* here is where I left off: TL Killboard
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This was pretty much what I had in mind too. But didnt know what you were thinking, or the respawn rates of sites. Running C5 cap escalations with carriers and dreads and webs is not really feasible for one person...at least not while maintaining my sanity.
Garmon does it (or a C6, i dont remember which)
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United States44391 Posts
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How long were you training it? Because damn, that's a nice pvp toon lol.
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United States44391 Posts
Like a year. Didn't really have a use for it, was briefly in oracle army.
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On July 12 2013 02:35 kollin wrote:
Yeah you hatch beggars, 2 bil is nothing
Pay me back what you owe me.
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Lalalaland34507 Posts
From Miura Bull, on the Molden Heath forums, topic title 'Accidentally just caused someone to quit':
Am I a bad person? It started with a contract. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MsDb33k.png) Of course there wasn't a Nightmare there. That would have been bad for business. In reality there was about 150M isk worth of 'goods'. A few hours later and I spot this in local .... Followed by a convo request. Show nested quote +
Whispering Venom > hi Latari Aerospace what can I help you with today sir?
Ding Woot > Ummm did i miss the ship somehow
Whispering Venom > oh? what ship is that sir?
Ding Woot > you did get the 850 mill didnt you ?
Ding Woot > my nightmare
Whispering Venom > damn it Steve from packaging again
Ding Woot > my power went out and i think something went wrong
Ding Woot > do you still have the Nightmare
Ding Woot > can talk to Steve???
Whispering Venom > hmm this is weird no we don't have it
Ding Woot > can i give you back the other stuff for a refund ?
Whispering Venom > are you trying to scam us lol? I have heard about this
Ding Woot > no here it is i do the trade
He opens up the trade window and places inside all the items from the contract. Show nested quote +
Ding Woot > that is all i got,, no ship..
Whispering Venom > ok I see one sec
Ding Woot > thank u
Whispering Venom > and you are happy with a refund sir?
Ding Woot > yes
Ding Woot > more than happy would save me embaressment
I place 850,000 ISK in the deposit box and he immediately accepts. Show nested quote +
Ding Woot > thank u
Ding Woot > wait what happend to the 850
Ding Woot > whats going on
Ding Woot > ahhh i see.. you put $850,000 not million..
Ding Woot > hello
Whispering Venom > oops did I?
Ding Woot > did you scam me sir..?
Whispering Venom > sorry there appears to have been a problem with the transaction
Ding Woot > motherfuck
Ding Woot > never been scammed before
Whispering Venom > sorry
Ding Woot > thanks... you Got me ;-)
Ding Woot > HAHAHA NO YER NOT HAHAHA
Whispering Venom > I can only advise do not buy from intergalactic local market in future
Whispering Venom > this is an experiment
Ding Woot > it worked , didnt it ?
Whispering Venom > indeed it did, Latari Aerospace appreciates your custom
Whispering Venom > you're a good sport sir
Ding Woot > well,, Fly safe no matter Which Alt you are :-)
Ding Woot > good skills o7
I close the chat. 10 minutes later and he opens up a convo again and the trade window is open with just under 600 million ISK in green. Show nested quote +Whispering Venom > hello again Whispering Venom > what is this lol? Ding Woot > its all i have left take it im giving this game up Whispering Venom > oh no  Ding Woot > take it Ding Woot > this game is shit Ding Woot > you have taught me a lesson Whispering Venom > you have to click accept? not sure if srs? Whispering Venom > wtf dude? err, thanks, I guess Ding Woot > no thank u Ding Woot > have fun' Ding Woot > outta here o7 Poor guy or fuck him?
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Odyssey 1.1 teaser
If those numbers are real, and stay.... Vigilant / Demios / Thorax are going to be really, really, scary.
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That much range with antimatter... dafaq.
Also not shit dps.
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Hyrule19264 Posts
Sadly it's still only kin/therm
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On July 12 2013 12:30 tofucake wrote:
Sadly it's still only kin/therm
426 unheated DPS, 2 Mag stabs, no warriors (I am assuming no rigs or 5% implants as well) That shit is really good, considering the thorax only has 5% damage per level.
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Hyrule19264 Posts
Yeah but when it inevitably becomes ubiquitous people will start filling kin/therm instead of just invulns and in the end dps will remain bad.
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If that stays, the vigilant... and demios would be the ultimate in nano for cruiser ships. Vigilant would be getting such disgusting DPS.
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Hyrule19264 Posts
Yeah good thing I have a bunch of them. I should find some time for eve :\
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On July 12 2013 12:23 Ramiel wrote:Odyssey 1.1 teaser If those numbers are real, and stay.... Vigilant / Demios / Thorax are going to be really, really, scary.
I think the ultimate question here is whether this has better damage application than the Talos. Hopefully, they've straddled the line where application is comparable but with some ambiguity. Either way, these ships may become very interesting. More ships being interesting is about all you can ask from CCP.
Also, one of the oft-forgotten drawbacks of rails is that overheating doesn't increase the per-shot damage - same kind of annoyance the artycane had. Although with frigates being so weak these days, I think that drawback has less impact.
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