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hagon
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom556 Posts
July 12 2013 23:39 GMT
#31881
I don't feel holding tackle would be the greatest challenge facing said Maller fleet
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
July 12 2013 23:41 GMT
#31882
why don't they just copy whatever PL's setups were using (AB maller + guardian) and then just downgrade the guardians to exequrors

you should also remind them that tracking titans have been nerfed
?
Johnny Business
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1251 Posts
July 13 2013 00:13 GMT
#31883
Pretty sure that was snigg running that doctrine. PL only has one t1 cruiser gang and thats hml caracals.
Serious Business
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
July 13 2013 02:28 GMT
#31884
The Maller fleet might literally be a single maller, and everyone else in useful ships.

Still totally a Maller fleet
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
July 13 2013 04:58 GMT
#31885
On July 13 2013 07:56 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 06:40 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
On July 12 2013 05:19 KwarK wrote:
On July 12 2013 04:47 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
On July 12 2013 04:14 KwarK wrote:
btw my FA corp just proposed a doctrine fleet of the following

Maller
4x Focused Medium Pulse Laser I
2x Cap Recharger II
1x 10MN meta mwd
1x DCU II
2x ANP II
1x 1600 tungsten
1x EANM II
1x meta explosive active armour hardener
3x trimark
5x Scorch S

When I mentioned its inability to hold tackle on things I was told that there would be other ships in the fleet to fill the roles the maller can't do but it would form the core of the fleet.


It's ok because there are other ships in the fleet to fill the role of DPS as well. :CSDW:

That's the joke.jpg
His reasoning was literally that the first fleets inability to do anything would be mitigated by an entire second fleet of various ships in correct fits which would be a well rounded and capable fleet and would patch up any gaps left by the fit of the Maller fleet. I didn't know how to argue against that.


There are many fleets in this fleet. The Maller fleet is the flagship fleet, though. It's the fleet that has nothing but flags which wave menacingly at their foes. It wins the real battle - the battle of the mind.


[22:47:35] elite god > X ATM092 i understand i presented a idea not shoved it down anyones mouth

I don't think he actually gets it but I tried.


Look... He had an idea, he didn't ask for any criticism or input on that idea - he was just putting it out there. KwarK y r u so meen? TL Nazi mods.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-13 05:18:56
July 13 2013 05:18 GMT
#31886
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18729621

xX rahadalon exodus authority RELOADED. Xx
?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43203 Posts
July 13 2013 11:12 GMT
#31887
https://forum.pleaseignore.com/topic/42726-baby-come-back-beam-apocs-and-fauxcat-changes/
+ Show Spoiler +
[Apocalypse, Fauxcat New]
Damage Control II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Targeting Range Script

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L

Large Energy Locus Coordinator II
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


This is test's plan to win the war. Can anyone see the issue with it?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
July 13 2013 12:00 GMT
#31888
Do nullsec alliances just not like dps or something
Moderator
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
July 13 2013 12:23 GMT
#31889
I guess they value not getting bombed
?
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
July 13 2013 14:41 GMT
#31890
I don't really think dps is a top concern when you field 100+ people fleet, while at the same time your ally field 100+ Domi fleet, and your enemy (and ally) bomb the hell out of the battlefield with 50+ bombers on each side. Plus, 90+ Celestis are damping the hell out of everything they can target and the lock time under tidi is like literally 5 minutes

But really, anything that doesn't get insta popped by bombs is decent now in sov warfare.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14047 Posts
July 13 2013 15:27 GMT
#31891
On July 13 2013 09:13 Johnny Business wrote:
Pretty sure that was snigg running that doctrine. PL only has one t1 cruiser gang and thats hml caracals.

me and my (caldari fw) alliance are now moveing into the same station as snigg. I can confirm that they're useing t1 mallers as a docterine.

I can confirm that ewar lolgf's that entire fleet be it webs neuts ecm or damps.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43203 Posts
July 13 2013 15:41 GMT
#31892
Firstly, they went for a t2 large locus over, say, a t1 damage rig or a trimark if tank is important. Secondly taking off one low for a damage mod would make very little difference but give the fleet the equivalent of 20% more damage output.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 10:21:14
July 14 2013 10:08 GMT
#31893
"I think I have tuberculosis" -Johnny Business

Gorski Car > so I have been coughing entire week (must be tuberculosis) and went out partying anyway
?
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 10:57:08
July 14 2013 10:55 GMT
#31894
On July 13 2013 20:12 KwarK wrote:
https://forum.pleaseignore.com/topic/42726-baby-come-back-beam-apocs-and-fauxcat-changes/
+ Show Spoiler +
[Apocalypse, Fauxcat New]
Damage Control II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Targeting Range Script

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L

Large Energy Locus Coordinator II
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


This is test's plan to win the war. Can anyone see the issue with it?


IF you're going to fit a ship like that...wouldn't an Abbadon be better?

+ Show Spoiler +

[Abaddon, Hurrr]
Damage Control II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Heat Sink II

Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L

Large Energy Locus Coordinator II
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I

Ogre II x2
Hammerhead II x2
Hobgoblin II x1


More DPS, bigger dronebay and more EHP.
Range (if you're going to use a T2 rig) is only 20km less.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
July 14 2013 11:02 GMT
#31895
optimal bonus on apoc.
?
tgun
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
434 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 12:00:27
July 14 2013 11:59 GMT
#31896
I hate this game. Worhmoles are stupid.
Galdo
Profile Joined January 2012
United States338 Posts
July 14 2013 14:13 GMT
#31897
On July 14 2013 20:59 tgun wrote:
I hate this game. Worhmoles are stupid.

A masterfully told story is required to back up this statement.

Hopefully involving multiple capitals, a raiding party, and spies turning off POS shields.
DiracMonopole
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1555 Posts
July 15 2013 01:33 GMT
#31898
http://pastebin.com/Rp4ckCsU

Sup
Nyvis
Profile Joined November 2012
France284 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 01:38:13
July 15 2013 01:37 GMT
#31899
On July 14 2013 19:55 Thezzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 20:12 KwarK wrote:
https://forum.pleaseignore.com/topic/42726-baby-come-back-beam-apocs-and-fauxcat-changes/
+ Show Spoiler +
[Apocalypse, Fauxcat New]
Damage Control II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Targeting Range Script

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L

Large Energy Locus Coordinator II
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


This is test's plan to win the war. Can anyone see the issue with it?


IF you're going to fit a ship like that...wouldn't an Abbadon be better?

+ Show Spoiler +

[Abaddon, Hurrr]
Damage Control II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Heat Sink II

Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L

Large Energy Locus Coordinator II
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I

Ogre II x2
Hammerhead II x2
Hobgoblin II x1


More DPS, bigger dronebay and more EHP.
Range (if you're going to use a T2 rig) is only 20km less.


Less tracking than apocs, still, right?
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4211 Posts
July 15 2013 01:42 GMT
#31900
On July 15 2013 10:33 DiracMonopole wrote:
http://pastebin.com/Rp4ckCsU

Sup

Bra-fucking-vo sir.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
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