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Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
July 12 2013 04:09 GMT
#31861
Either way, your looking at some really crazy numbers from the Navy Exq. That thing will be a killing machine.

Also def- while I will not deny that the talos is still relevant, it has lost a lot of its luster in the new Meta of navy cruisers.

Navy cruisers go over 3k/s no speed implants, no links, have a nice tank and great projection to back it up. They get even scarier linked.
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34501 Posts
July 12 2013 04:19 GMT
#31862
How much is a navy cruiser?
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Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
July 12 2013 04:21 GMT
#31863
60mil or so
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
July 12 2013 04:22 GMT
#31864
Also, one of the oft-forgotten drawbacks of rails is that overheating doesn't increase the per-shot damage - same kind of annoyance the artycane had. Although with frigates being so weak these days, I think that drawback has less impact.

With missiles v frigs I really like RoF ;/ though maybe I'm biased seeing as rarely will +damage lower "shots to kill" on frigates


I don't necessarily think you want to test just with CNAM (16+17 is just not that amazing, also you can't all-in loci for railguns effectively) I agree with Michael's assessment that you will need to constantly swap ammos with rails. For reference CN uranium has 50% more optimal than CNAM and 83% of CNAM damage.
On July 12 2013 12:34 tofucake wrote:
Yeah but when it inevitably becomes ubiquitous people will start filling kin/therm instead of just invulns and in the end dps will remain bad.

wat

ahahahaha
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34501 Posts
July 12 2013 04:43 GMT
#31865
Tofu I just reread your post, wat
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Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
July 12 2013 05:10 GMT
#31866
No one is going to make a deimos killing tengu joke? I'm disappointed.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
July 12 2013 05:14 GMT
#31867
forgive me, father
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43513 Posts
July 12 2013 08:19 GMT
#31868
TEST's new financial plan is to screw greedy goblin out of his savings. Will probably work. After being scammed for 50? billion last time he still rejoined TEST.
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419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
July 12 2013 10:29 GMT
#31869
I am seeing the number "0.5T" thrown around, but surely no one would rejoin an alliance that had scammed you for that much?

Also:



interesting solo oracle fit, probably wouldn't work in todays environment (2 k m/s heated is way too slow) but still an overall nice opening fight
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Johnny Business
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1251 Posts
July 12 2013 12:06 GMT
#31870
On July 12 2013 19:29 419 wrote:
Also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5V27pZSMQs

interesting solo oracle fit, probably wouldn't work in todays environment (2 k m/s heated is way too slow) but still an overall nice opening fight



Good thing dirty hakker is perma banned now
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Invol2ver
Profile Joined September 2010
United States330 Posts
July 12 2013 13:51 GMT
#31871
I don't always go solo roaming in lowsec, but when I do, I fly a 5b Kronos.

When i first saw this reddit post I figured it had to be you Serg, then I saw you on the mail...story?
Losing money is less good than making it, confirm?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34501 Posts
July 12 2013 14:06 GMT
#31872
Why would you fly something that gets perma jammed by a couple ec300s?
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Invol2ver
Profile Joined September 2010
United States330 Posts
July 12 2013 14:11 GMT
#31873
On July 12 2013 23:06 Firebolt145 wrote:
Why would you fly something that gets perma jammed by a couple ec300s?


Who would dare to be so dishonorable...
Losing money is less good than making it, confirm?
hugitout
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States379 Posts
July 12 2013 15:36 GMT
#31874
I jumped into Katugumur, saw samuel was online with legio and knew he was in the kronos. Splatter was in Sotrenzur and then samuel left local and jumped into sot. I left splatter on the ingunn gate to see what system he was going to and told the other guys he was most likely coming to eifer, luckily most of them were already in eifer so there was only like 3 people in gusandal and the kronos just jumped right into a loki and got tackled. I was reshipping during this, me and the domi landed on eifer gate and jumped through where the everyone else was already attacking him. GG

Also why would you come to the conclusion that I had anything to do with that before seeing the mail lol
Invol2ver
Profile Joined September 2010
United States330 Posts
July 12 2013 15:49 GMT
#31875
On July 13 2013 00:36 hugitout wrote:
I jumped into Katugumur, saw samuel was online with legio and knew he was in the kronos. Splatter was in Sotrenzur and then samuel left local and jumped into sot. I left splatter on the ingunn gate to see what system he was going to and told the other guys he was most likely coming to eifer, luckily most of them were already in eifer so there was only like 3 people in gusandal and the kronos just jumped right into a loki and got tackled. I was reshipping during this, me and the domi landed on eifer gate and jumped through where the everyone else was already attacking him. GG

Also why would you come to the conclusion that I had anything to do with that before seeing the mail lol


Because you used to roam around in a battle Kronos earlier this year yeah?....I was expecting it to be you getting blown up but then saw you on the kill. Funny how that works out.
Losing money is less good than making it, confirm?
hugitout
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States379 Posts
July 12 2013 15:52 GMT
#31876
LOL, yeah ask johnny how much of a battle kronos that was.
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
July 12 2013 16:10 GMT
#31877
That is the 100MN oracle no?
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Rengas
Profile Joined July 2012
United States169 Posts
July 12 2013 16:28 GMT
#31878
Nice job Serg. Looks like you got a decent drop too.

The only sad part is the comments on our killboard.

You'd think with almost a trillion isk in kills this month that people wouldn't really care about others having fun with their isk.
Johnny Business
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1251 Posts
July 12 2013 21:28 GMT
#31879
On July 13 2013 00:52 hugitout wrote:
LOL, yeah ask johnny how much of a battle kronos that was.


It was very protected against energy neutralizers with that high cap regen.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43513 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 22:57:46
July 12 2013 22:56 GMT
#31880
On July 12 2013 06:40 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 05:19 KwarK wrote:
On July 12 2013 04:47 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
On July 12 2013 04:14 KwarK wrote:
btw my FA corp just proposed a doctrine fleet of the following

Maller
4x Focused Medium Pulse Laser I
2x Cap Recharger II
1x 10MN meta mwd
1x DCU II
2x ANP II
1x 1600 tungsten
1x EANM II
1x meta explosive active armour hardener
3x trimark
5x Scorch S

When I mentioned its inability to hold tackle on things I was told that there would be other ships in the fleet to fill the roles the maller can't do but it would form the core of the fleet.


It's ok because there are other ships in the fleet to fill the role of DPS as well. :CSDW:

That's the joke.jpg
His reasoning was literally that the first fleets inability to do anything would be mitigated by an entire second fleet of various ships in correct fits which would be a well rounded and capable fleet and would patch up any gaps left by the fit of the Maller fleet. I didn't know how to argue against that.


There are many fleets in this fleet. The Maller fleet is the flagship fleet, though. It's the fleet that has nothing but flags which wave menacingly at their foes. It wins the real battle - the battle of the mind.

[22:46:07] elite god > X ATM092you talk like there is nothing else on the field
[22:46:28] elite god > the maller is the majority ship on the field
[22:47:01] X ATM092 > imagine you put a plate in front of me that was mostly covered in sand but had some mash and a sausage to the side
[22:47:10] X ATM092 > and you go "yeah, the sausage has protein and the mash has carbs"
[22:47:17] X ATM092 > I'm still gonna go "what's with all the sand?"
[22:47:27] X ATM092 > "is there any way we could have less sand and more of the food?"
[22:47:33] X ATM092 > the maller is the sand
[22:47:35] elite god > X ATM092 i understand i presented a idea not shoved it down anyones mouth

I don't think he actually gets it but I tried.

Update
elite god mailed:
you dont understand the fleet correctly but thank you for trying. fast tackle are a support add on to this fleet. and your thinking like 250 pilots i am presenting to the corp and for other small gang warfare


Maller doctrine only works in small gang warfare obv.
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