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Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
June 12 2017 21:45 GMT
#2381
[image loading]

logged in an hour before the arena closed to do my run because i forgot this week and managed to get a deathless run on my first try, ended up getting #14th rank in my tier too. neat.
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-12 21:49:26
June 12 2017 21:47 GMT
#2382
FE:Heroes question. I know I'm late to the party but I'm looking for some easy suggestions on strong inherits. I don't really arena so I don't care about the meta or whatever, but I like attempting all the hero battles / special maps / Tempest Trials / etc. I haven't dabbled with inheriting anything but I figured there are a few combos that would help in almost any situation (I hear L&D3 come up a lot lol) and carry me through most of the new content they put out. I'm still struggling with LV40 lunatic stuff, haven't finished all the story/paralogues.

Here are most of the solid (I think) characters that I've been using or leveling up casually.
5* -- Takumi [40], Marth [40], Elise [40], Tharja, Ike, Caeda, Nowi, Spring Lucina, Eirika
4* -- Kagero [40], Camilla, MRobin, Nino, Xander, Olivia

I have ~100 more that I've not really touched but haven't deleted any either. I think I merged a couple once just to see what it did, but other than that I might have some good options for inheritance available, esp if I bump them up to 4* if need be. Basically, are there all-purpose carries that become much stronger with a few easy inherits? Or is it more of a min/max thing for specific arena comps/counters
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-12 21:54:43
June 12 2017 21:53 GMT
#2383
On June 13 2017 06:47 Duka08 wrote:
FE:Heroes question. I know I'm late to the party but I'm looking for some easy suggestions on strong inherits. I don't really arena so I don't care about the meta or whatever, but I like attempting all the hero battles / special maps / Tempest Trials / etc. I haven't dabbled with inheriting anything but I figured there are a few combos that would help in almost any situation (I hear L&D3 come up a lot lol) and carry me through most of the new content they put out. I'm still struggling with LV40 lunatic stuff, haven't finished all the story/paralogues.

Here are most of the solid (I think) characters that I've been using or leveling up casually.
5* -- Takumi [40], Marth [40], Elise [40], Tharja, Ike, Caeda, Nowi, Spring Lucina, Eirika
4* -- Kagero [40], Camilla, MRobin, Nino, Xander, Olivia

I have ~100 more that I've not really touched but haven't deleted any either. I think I merged a couple once just to see what it did, but other than that I might have some good options for inheritance available, esp if I bump them up to 4* if need be. Basically, are there all-purpose carries that become much stronger with a few easy inherits? Or is it more of a min/max thing for specific arena comps/counters

There's definitely some most-purpose carries. For example, on the team I just posted above Nowi carries that team pretty hard. Generally, blade tome users, Reinhardt, brave weapon users, Nowi, and a couple of others are popular candidates. For example out of the ones that you mentioned Tharja, Nowi, Kagero, and Nino are all potential options. It's good that you also have a dancer and Eirika because they tend to pair pretty well with these carry-style teams. Dancers are almost universally useful as well
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
June 12 2017 23:42 GMT
#2384
anyone interested in doing another draft run for a different game (we've done conquest and fe7 twice)
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Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
June 12 2017 23:45 GMT
#2385
On June 13 2017 08:42 Cricketer12 wrote:
anyone interested in doing another draft run for a different game (we've done conquest and fe7 twice)

You guys should draft Fire Emblem 6.

I want to see who ends up with Barth.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
June 12 2017 23:49 GMT
#2386
On June 13 2017 08:45 Frudgey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2017 08:42 Cricketer12 wrote:
anyone interested in doing another draft run for a different game (we've done conquest and fe7 twice)

You guys should draft Fire Emblem 6.

I want to see who ends up with Barth.

Literally just did an fe6 draft with some other people. Managed to get all 3 swordmaster, pegknights, elen, YODERRRRRRRRRR, Lugh and Igrene
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-13 02:03:31
June 13 2017 01:52 GMT
#2387
FE8 would be a nice relaxing one. FE4 is a really fun draft game but I don't think enough people have played it. FE5 is annoying to draft because you have to grind S Drinks.

On June 13 2017 08:49 Cricketer12 wrote:
Literally just did an fe6 draft with some other people. Managed to get all 3 swordmaster, pegknights, elen, YODERRRRRRRRRR, Lugh and Igrene

Were you the double pick? I can't see myself picking Rutger until like 4th, but getting Rutger+Shanna would be a pretty solid double pick.

Have fun grinding Elen's staff rank, lol.
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ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
June 13 2017 02:22 GMT
#2388
On June 13 2017 06:45 Varanice wrote:
[image loading]

logged in an hour before the arena closed to do my run because i forgot this week and managed to get a deathless run on my first try, ended up getting #14th rank in my tier too. neat.

How do you even get defense points, I've got a grand total of 0 defense points so far.

Also, I've managed to raise a 5* Corrin(M) but he feels fairly underwhelming so far with his basic skillset. Kinda wish I had anything that can stand up to green mages in the Tempest Trials because I'm wiping to Veronica with a whimper on hard difficulty.
There is no need to be mad.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-13 02:57:11
June 13 2017 02:55 GMT
#2389
On June 13 2017 11:22 ykl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2017 06:45 Varanice wrote:
[image loading]

logged in an hour before the arena closed to do my run because i forgot this week and managed to get a deathless run on my first try, ended up getting #14th rank in my tier too. neat.

How do you even get defense points, I've got a grand total of 0 defense points so far.

Also, I've managed to raise a 5* Corrin(M) but he feels fairly underwhelming so far with his basic skillset. Kinda wish I had anything that can stand up to green mages in the Tempest Trials because I'm wiping to Veronica with a whimper on hard difficulty.

Honestly, it just kind of comes in by itself. You do have to do a round each week before they'll start pairing your team against others though. So asides from playing 1 match of Arena every Tuesday, and putting your best team in as your defense team (with a bonus unit on it, don't forget that.), not sure what to tell you.

I have a Corrin as well and he's pretty underwhelming unfortunately. His stat distribution is just really awkward. Every way that you could want to build him, someone else does it better, and he doesn't really hit any important breakpoints in terms of speed/atk, either.

I can't really give you much good advice for beating Veronica, I haven't been able to kill her once on Lunatic (I don't really have any great red units other than Tiki, I have a Lucina but she has -ATK). The way the points are structured you're pretty much encouraged to just spam highest level Lunatic, even if you can't beat the final stage, just because it's worth more points just getting there than beating it on any other difficulty. Green mages usually give me the most trouble in Arena, anyway, so I wasn't expecting much else.
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ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
June 13 2017 05:22 GMT
#2390
On June 13 2017 11:55 Varanice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2017 11:22 ykl wrote:
On June 13 2017 06:45 Varanice wrote:
[image loading]

logged in an hour before the arena closed to do my run because i forgot this week and managed to get a deathless run on my first try, ended up getting #14th rank in my tier too. neat.

How do you even get defense points, I've got a grand total of 0 defense points so far.

Also, I've managed to raise a 5* Corrin(M) but he feels fairly underwhelming so far with his basic skillset. Kinda wish I had anything that can stand up to green mages in the Tempest Trials because I'm wiping to Veronica with a whimper on hard difficulty.

Honestly, it just kind of comes in by itself. You do have to do a round each week before they'll start pairing your team against others though. So asides from playing 1 match of Arena every Tuesday, and putting your best team in as your defense team (with a bonus unit on it, don't forget that.), not sure what to tell you.

I have a Corrin as well and he's pretty underwhelming unfortunately. His stat distribution is just really awkward. Every way that you could want to build him, someone else does it better, and he doesn't really hit any important breakpoints in terms of speed/atk, either.

I can't really give you much good advice for beating Veronica, I haven't been able to kill her once on Lunatic (I don't really have any great red units other than Tiki, I have a Lucina but she has -ATK). The way the points are structured you're pretty much encouraged to just spam highest level Lunatic, even if you can't beat the final stage, just because it's worth more points just getting there than beating it on any other difficulty. Green mages usually give me the most trouble in Arena, anyway, so I wasn't expecting much else.

Yeah, I do finish off my arena offense runs every week.
(Also, I just checked the results for the season that just ended and apparently I finally got defense points this season! Pretty happy about that tbh.)

Just tried the Lunatic Tempest Trial, got wrecked on the 2nd map with a level 40 Hector spawn, haha. Think I need to get past at least the 2nd map in Lunatic or its not worth it because I can usually clean up the 4 maps before Veronica in hard, which gets me 112 per run, the same as winning 2 on Lunatic.
There is no need to be mad.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
June 13 2017 05:35 GMT
#2391
On June 13 2017 14:22 ykl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2017 11:55 Varanice wrote:
On June 13 2017 11:22 ykl wrote:
On June 13 2017 06:45 Varanice wrote:
[image loading]

logged in an hour before the arena closed to do my run because i forgot this week and managed to get a deathless run on my first try, ended up getting #14th rank in my tier too. neat.

How do you even get defense points, I've got a grand total of 0 defense points so far.

Also, I've managed to raise a 5* Corrin(M) but he feels fairly underwhelming so far with his basic skillset. Kinda wish I had anything that can stand up to green mages in the Tempest Trials because I'm wiping to Veronica with a whimper on hard difficulty.

Honestly, it just kind of comes in by itself. You do have to do a round each week before they'll start pairing your team against others though. So asides from playing 1 match of Arena every Tuesday, and putting your best team in as your defense team (with a bonus unit on it, don't forget that.), not sure what to tell you.

I have a Corrin as well and he's pretty underwhelming unfortunately. His stat distribution is just really awkward. Every way that you could want to build him, someone else does it better, and he doesn't really hit any important breakpoints in terms of speed/atk, either.

I can't really give you much good advice for beating Veronica, I haven't been able to kill her once on Lunatic (I don't really have any great red units other than Tiki, I have a Lucina but she has -ATK). The way the points are structured you're pretty much encouraged to just spam highest level Lunatic, even if you can't beat the final stage, just because it's worth more points just getting there than beating it on any other difficulty. Green mages usually give me the most trouble in Arena, anyway, so I wasn't expecting much else.

Yeah, I do finish off my arena offense runs every week.
(Also, I just checked the results for the season that just ended and apparently I finally got defense points this season! Pretty happy about that tbh.)

Just tried the Lunatic Tempest Trial, got wrecked on the 2nd map with a level 40 Hector spawn, haha. Think I need to get past at least the 2nd map in Lunatic or its not worth it because I can usually clean up the 4 maps before Veronica in hard, which gets me 112 per run, the same as winning 2 on Lunatic.

Yeah just run whatever is the highest one that you can at least consistently get to the final map, then.
www.twitch.tv/varanice
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
June 13 2017 10:59 GMT
#2392
On June 13 2017 10:52 TheYango wrote:
FE8 would be a nice relaxing one. FE4 is a really fun draft game but I don't think enough people have played it. FE5 is annoying to draft because you have to grind S Drinks.

Show nested quote +
On June 13 2017 08:49 Cricketer12 wrote:
Literally just did an fe6 draft with some other people. Managed to get all 3 swordmaster, pegknights, elen, YODERRRRRRRRRR, Lugh and Igrene

Were you the double pick? I can't see myself picking Rutger until like 4th, but getting Rutger+Shanna would be a pretty solid double pick.

Have fun grinding Elen's staff rank, lol.

Im down for fe8, and no i was 2nd of the 4. I picked rutger first elen 2nd and shanna third.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
June 13 2017 13:52 GMT
#2393
On June 13 2017 19:59 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2017 10:52 TheYango wrote:
FE8 would be a nice relaxing one. FE4 is a really fun draft game but I don't think enough people have played it. FE5 is annoying to draft because you have to grind S Drinks.

On June 13 2017 08:49 Cricketer12 wrote:
Literally just did an fe6 draft with some other people. Managed to get all 3 swordmaster, pegknights, elen, YODERRRRRRRRRR, Lugh and Igrene

Were you the double pick? I can't see myself picking Rutger until like 4th, but getting Rutger+Shanna would be a pretty solid double pick.

Have fun grinding Elen's staff rank, lol.

Im down for fe8, and no i was 2nd of the 4. I picked rutger first elen 2nd and shanna third.

If you guys need another dude for FE8, let me know. I wouldn't mind doing a draft run. That said, I've been pretty flaky when it comes to actually doing the draft run, so give others a chance before me.

If I were a part of the draft, I'd try harder to actually play the draft, heh...
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 13 2017 14:31 GMT
#2394
Nino becomes a strong character with just Desperation and Fury(doesn't have to be level 3 neccesarily). Fury brings Nino low and thus triggers Desperation for the later stages of the tempest trials, allows her to one-turn every character pretty much if shes buffed enough. Use Olivia+Erika to buff her and she will shred anyone. I 5*ed her and I have no regrets.

I use a male Robin in the tempest trials right now because of the bonus but can be exchanged for pretty much anything, likely something that can tank a hit or two from a high res target so that those characters can be baited in.

Judging from the characters you posted you are missing a strong Green character right now, Erika can fill red, nowi can fill blue.

Nowi, Erika, Nino, Dancer(Olivia in your case) should be a solid team to clear pretty much anything. The last 3 of those are the core of the lineup.

Erika doesn't need much nor does Olivia to make it work, is nice if you can beef them up but not neccesary, Just make sure you get Desperation and Fury for Nino and you should be good to go.
WriterXiao8~~
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
June 13 2017 14:51 GMT
#2395
My current Arena team is 4*Olivia/5*Soren/5*Lucina/4*Subaki. I haven't run into any issues yet, but I haven't done much SI work. Olivia is also on 33 and there for bonus only. Most of my runs end around 4500-4600 atm if deathless. Could be higher, but I am happy with what it is.

I have a Nino but I never saw her appeal. Soren for me works wonders in shutting down any mage because he has very strong speed to nullify counter attacks all together. I have a 5* Linde who also does insane damage (49 attack/42 speed without any C skill + modifiers).

You can make a solid Arena team with very little, just make sure you have some diversity to handle teams. Subaki and Olivia are from free hero rotation, and I got lucky with Lucina/Soren, but you can replace them with any decent Red (which you seem to have), and any decent mage (even if it is not green, having a mage to counter high def units is nice flexibility). Focus in arena is winning without deaths.

For Lunatic I kinda stopped doing it until quite a bit later when I had more units. Once I had a larger roster to choose from for each map it was pretty easy. Keep at it, you'll get more people to fill out your team well enough.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
June 13 2017 15:37 GMT
#2396
i've only been able to consistently complete the hard tempest runs
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-13 19:43:34
June 13 2017 17:33 GMT
#2397
Didn't realize Eirika was so solid. Reading a bit sounds like she's a buff bot? Esp for blade tomes like Nino or Tharja. Could build something around her+Tharja already, but having Olivia as a dancer feels like too much red then, especially without a good green 4th (wish I pulled Azura a couple weeks ago ). Unless the weapon triangle is less important than skills and synergy. I noticed Varanice's team from the top of the page has 3 blues...

Edit: Does Tharja have anything going for her over Nino? Other than the fact that I'll save feathers since my Nino is only 4* lol...
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
June 13 2017 18:47 GMT
#2398
Some units can overcome the weapon triangle pretty easily. Falchion wielders are good examples since they can counter dragons, regardless of color. Most of the time you will just one shot someone with it, even if at a disadvantage.

Some units just happen to be insanely powerful too, such as his Nowi, and just their raw power and team building around them will make them able to handle any unit comp.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 13 2017 22:44 GMT
#2399
On June 13 2017 22:52 Frudgey wrote:
If you guys need another dude for FE8, let me know. I wouldn't mind doing a draft run. That said, I've been pretty flaky when it comes to actually doing the draft run, so give others a chance before me.

If I were a part of the draft, I'd try harder to actually play the draft, heh...

I'll see if I can find someone, though if someone here is interested, we could do it with 4-5.
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Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
June 13 2017 23:35 GMT
#2400
On June 14 2017 07:44 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2017 22:52 Frudgey wrote:
If you guys need another dude for FE8, let me know. I wouldn't mind doing a draft run. That said, I've been pretty flaky when it comes to actually doing the draft run, so give others a chance before me.

If I were a part of the draft, I'd try harder to actually play the draft, heh...

I'll see if I can find someone, though if someone here is interested, we could do it with 4-5.

I think part of the problem with me is that I'm pretty predictable with my draft picks.

I don't think I'd end up surprising anyone.
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