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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13994 Posts
June 15 2017 21:25 GMT
#2421
On June 16 2017 05:07 Frudgey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 03:26 TheYango wrote:
On June 15 2017 13:23 Frudgey wrote:
And you can bet I'll be taking Valbar to late game. Do boots grant one or two movement?

1 Mov, but it will feel like 0 Mov for most of the 2nd half of Celica's route because of how nonstandard terrain reduces movement. It hits armor knights even harder because their movement penalty on desert is a factor of 3 instead of 2 (meaning they only have 1 Mov).

Also, Milo said he's willing to do a draft again if you guys want to do the FE8 draft at some point. If we can find a 5th, that'd be fine, but it works okay with 4.

I'm in. I'll make a serious effort to actually play through this time.

Hope you guys are ready for some predictable draft picks.

please pick amelia first

Or don't, and let that dumb bitch be picked last...either way I'm ready when you guys are
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 15 2017 21:28 GMT
#2422
I won't be home for another hour or two, we can do it then.

If I counted correctly a 4 person FE8 draft has 2 left-over shared picks. Very likely Amelia will be one of the two.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13994 Posts
June 15 2017 22:16 GMT
#2423
frudgey can you get on now?
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Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
June 16 2017 01:07 GMT
#2424
I'm posting this for my own sake, but:

My team for the draft:

Gilliam
Natasha
L’Arachel
Colm
Gerik
Ewan
Amelia

Rules:
1) Seth is banned.
2) Lords, Tethys and Myrrh are free.
3) Orson was not drafted.
4) All can be used on 5x.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
June 16 2017 01:45 GMT
#2425
so now that I'm done with echoes, I want to go back and play the earlier games, where should I start
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-16 01:54:47
June 16 2017 01:46 GMT
#2426
Which ones have you played other than Echoes?

EDIT: My team, for posterity:

Franz
Cormag
Tana
Saleh
Rennac
Garcia
Knoll

Now to find a JP FE8 rom because I want to experience the hilarity of JP Eirika route Cormag.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
June 16 2017 02:37 GMT
#2427
On June 16 2017 10:46 TheYango wrote:
Which ones have you played other than Echoes?

EDIT: My team, for posterity:

Franz
Cormag
Tana
Saleh
Rennac
Garcia
Knoll

Now to find a JP FE8 rom because I want to experience the hilarity of JP Eirika route Cormag.


awakening and fates, bit of 1(FE11) and 3(FE12) remake but never went far with either of them
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
June 16 2017 03:10 GMT
#2428
On June 15 2017 14:57 ykl wrote:
I'm currently torn on which character to 5*, currently sitting on Nowi, Corrin(M) and Mist (y game, y u do dis) as 5*. I have 25k feathers so could even do a 3* character all the way to 5*.

The two best candidates are Effie and Klein on 4*, both are pretty good and pulled their weight even as 4*s. Other 4*s are Eliwood, Olivia, Raven, Cecilia, Lyn, Azama, Donnel. Most feels underwhelming except Olivia but I really want to keep my dancers at their current level while the Tempest Trial is ongoing.

For 3*, the only ones I'm currently feeling like they might be good to 5* are Nino, another Olivia (my main dancer atm since its higher leveled than the 4* one), and the starter trio of Anna, Alfonse and, Shareena.


I would say Nino is the strongest out of all of those since you currently have no strong green and she can handle greens and blues very well with the right team and skill inheritance. The reason I'd do her over Effie is that you already have 2 5* blues and while Effie is a monster, three of one color kind of limits what lineups you're able to beat.

I would definitely not do Azama since you already have Mist, and sadly, I don't think Donnel is particularly good in this game, even though he's one of my favs from Awakening. Plus, same problem as with Effie, he's yet another blue.

Sharena is the strongest of the starters, but she's blue, so yeah.

The second strongest pick imo is Lyn, she's also a cool character because if you can set her up properly she does a ton of damage in one turn. She also has good def and res stats, which is rare for a sword character. I like her more than Eliwood, especially since his C special is best with other cavs. Olivia is a respectable 5* but she also doesn't need to be 5* to do what you need her to do most of the time.

So yeah, Nino or Lyn, probably Nino. Until I put G Tomebreaker 3 on Julia, Nino teams were the bane of my arena runs.
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 16 2017 04:18 GMT
#2429
On June 16 2017 11:37 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 10:46 TheYango wrote:
Which ones have you played other than Echoes?

EDIT: My team, for posterity:

Franz
Cormag
Tana
Saleh
Rennac
Garcia
Knoll

Now to find a JP FE8 rom because I want to experience the hilarity of JP Eirika route Cormag.


awakening and fates, bit of 1(FE11) and 3(FE12) remake but never went far with either of them

FE8 (Sacred Stones) on GBA. FE7 has a better tutorial but if you've played 3DSFE games you dont need that. Beyond that the story and general design of FE8 takes a lot of cues from Gaiden, and a lot of it's features were later redesigned and reused in the 3DSFE games. It's pretty much the perfect bridge between the newer and older FE games.

Also, seeing as we just drafted it, we'll be around to answer your questions.
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ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
June 16 2017 04:18 GMT
#2430
On June 16 2017 12:10 RuiBarbO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 14:57 ykl wrote:
I'm currently torn on which character to 5*, currently sitting on Nowi, Corrin(M) and Mist (y game, y u do dis) as 5*. I have 25k feathers so could even do a 3* character all the way to 5*.

The two best candidates are Effie and Klein on 4*, both are pretty good and pulled their weight even as 4*s. Other 4*s are Eliwood, Olivia, Raven, Cecilia, Lyn, Azama, Donnel. Most feels underwhelming except Olivia but I really want to keep my dancers at their current level while the Tempest Trial is ongoing.

For 3*, the only ones I'm currently feeling like they might be good to 5* are Nino, another Olivia (my main dancer atm since its higher leveled than the 4* one), and the starter trio of Anna, Alfonse and, Shareena.


I would say Nino is the strongest out of all of those since you currently have no strong green and she can handle greens and blues very well with the right team and skill inheritance. The reason I'd do her over Effie is that you already have 2 5* blues and while Effie is a monster, three of one color kind of limits what lineups you're able to beat.

I would definitely not do Azama since you already have Mist, and sadly, I don't think Donnel is particularly good in this game, even though he's one of my favs from Awakening. Plus, same problem as with Effie, he's yet another blue.

Sharena is the strongest of the starters, but she's blue, so yeah.

The second strongest pick imo is Lyn, she's also a cool character because if you can set her up properly she does a ton of damage in one turn. She also has good def and res stats, which is rare for a sword character. I like her more than Eliwood, especially since his C special is best with other cavs. Olivia is a respectable 5* but she also doesn't need to be 5* to do what you need her to do most of the time.

So yeah, Nino or Lyn, probably Nino. Until I put G Tomebreaker 3 on Julia, Nino teams were the bane of my arena runs.

Corrin(M)'s a red sword, Corrin(F)'s the one that's the blue dragon (had a 4* version of this but used it to pass Dragon Aura to Cecilia since I'm realistically not going to use her with Nowi around). So only 1 5* blue and 1 5* red atm.
I'd consider Nino then, Lyn did not perform that well when I started using her, might be a lack of skills invested into her but she did not add a lot to the teams I used her on to level. Might be the way I used her though, I'll give her another shot.

And I do realise that a high amount of my good units are blue. Its been an issue from the start really, game likes to give me blue orbs and I like to gamble on the chance of getting more Nowis to merge. So I end up with a surplus of blue units that won't ever see the light of day.
There is no need to be mad.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51576 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-16 04:53:59
June 16 2017 04:39 GMT
#2431
any interesting builds to come out from marth masked considering she has absolutely no passives and needs to inherit everything?
edit: okay turns out its just a lucina clone with neutral iv's
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 16 2017 07:34 GMT
#2432
Indeed :D. I've got high hopes for interesting builds with this Quickened Pulse seal though.
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
June 16 2017 12:39 GMT
#2433
On June 16 2017 13:18 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 11:37 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 16 2017 10:46 TheYango wrote:
Which ones have you played other than Echoes?

EDIT: My team, for posterity:

Franz
Cormag
Tana
Saleh
Rennac
Garcia
Knoll

Now to find a JP FE8 rom because I want to experience the hilarity of JP Eirika route Cormag.


awakening and fates, bit of 1(FE11) and 3(FE12) remake but never went far with either of them

FE8 (Sacred Stones) on GBA. FE7 has a better tutorial but if you've played 3DSFE games you dont need that. Beyond that the story and general design of FE8 takes a lot of cues from Gaiden, and a lot of it's features were later redesigned and reused in the 3DSFE games. It's pretty much the perfect bridge between the newer and older FE games.

Also, seeing as we just drafted it, we'll be around to answer your questions.

The other good thing about Fire Emblem 8 is that it has Gilliam in it.

Fire Emblem 8 is also easier than a lot of the other games in the series, which can both be good and bad, depending on the perspective.

Also, it was the first Fire Emblem I've ever played and look where I am now!
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
June 16 2017 16:46 GMT
#2434
On June 16 2017 13:18 ykl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 12:10 RuiBarbO wrote:
On June 15 2017 14:57 ykl wrote:
I'm currently torn on which character to 5*, currently sitting on Nowi, Corrin(M) and Mist (y game, y u do dis) as 5*. I have 25k feathers so could even do a 3* character all the way to 5*.

The two best candidates are Effie and Klein on 4*, both are pretty good and pulled their weight even as 4*s. Other 4*s are Eliwood, Olivia, Raven, Cecilia, Lyn, Azama, Donnel. Most feels underwhelming except Olivia but I really want to keep my dancers at their current level while the Tempest Trial is ongoing.

For 3*, the only ones I'm currently feeling like they might be good to 5* are Nino, another Olivia (my main dancer atm since its higher leveled than the 4* one), and the starter trio of Anna, Alfonse and, Shareena.


I would say Nino is the strongest out of all of those since you currently have no strong green and she can handle greens and blues very well with the right team and skill inheritance. The reason I'd do her over Effie is that you already have 2 5* blues and while Effie is a monster, three of one color kind of limits what lineups you're able to beat.

I would definitely not do Azama since you already have Mist, and sadly, I don't think Donnel is particularly good in this game, even though he's one of my favs from Awakening. Plus, same problem as with Effie, he's yet another blue.

Sharena is the strongest of the starters, but she's blue, so yeah.

The second strongest pick imo is Lyn, she's also a cool character because if you can set her up properly she does a ton of damage in one turn. She also has good def and res stats, which is rare for a sword character. I like her more than Eliwood, especially since his C special is best with other cavs. Olivia is a respectable 5* but she also doesn't need to be 5* to do what you need her to do most of the time.

So yeah, Nino or Lyn, probably Nino. Until I put G Tomebreaker 3 on Julia, Nino teams were the bane of my arena runs.

Corrin(M)'s a red sword, Corrin(F)'s the one that's the blue dragon (had a 4* version of this but used it to pass Dragon Aura to Cecilia since I'm realistically not going to use her with Nowi around). So only 1 5* blue and 1 5* red atm.
I'd consider Nino then, Lyn did not perform that well when I started using her, might be a lack of skills invested into her but she did not add a lot to the teams I used her on to level. Might be the way I used her though, I'll give her another shot.

And I do realise that a high amount of my good units are blue. Its been an issue from the start really, game likes to give me blue orbs and I like to gamble on the chance of getting more Nowis to merge. So I end up with a surplus of blue units that won't ever see the light of day.


Oh oops, I saw Corrin(M) and thought Robin(M)

Yeah, I think Nino is probably the way to go then.
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
June 16 2017 19:12 GMT
#2435
On June 16 2017 21:39 Frudgey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 13:18 TheYango wrote:
On June 16 2017 11:37 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 16 2017 10:46 TheYango wrote:
Which ones have you played other than Echoes?

EDIT: My team, for posterity:

Franz
Cormag
Tana
Saleh
Rennac
Garcia
Knoll

Now to find a JP FE8 rom because I want to experience the hilarity of JP Eirika route Cormag.


awakening and fates, bit of 1(FE11) and 3(FE12) remake but never went far with either of them

FE8 (Sacred Stones) on GBA. FE7 has a better tutorial but if you've played 3DSFE games you dont need that. Beyond that the story and general design of FE8 takes a lot of cues from Gaiden, and a lot of it's features were later redesigned and reused in the 3DSFE games. It's pretty much the perfect bridge between the newer and older FE games.

Also, seeing as we just drafted it, we'll be around to answer your questions.

The other good thing about Fire Emblem 8 is that it has Gilliam in it.

Fire Emblem 8 is also easier than a lot of the other games in the series, which can both be good and bad, depending on the perspective.

Also, it was the first Fire Emblem I've ever played and look where I am now!


Which one has fire marth?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 16 2017 19:25 GMT
#2436
6 has Roy, but it's a lot more different from modern FE, and is not localized (there's translation patches).

I would recommend playing 8 -> 6 -> 7. 6 is my favorite of the 3 GBA games but its definitely the least beginner-friendly.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13994 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-16 19:29:52
June 16 2017 19:26 GMT
#2437
On June 17 2017 04:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 21:39 Frudgey wrote:
On June 16 2017 13:18 TheYango wrote:
On June 16 2017 11:37 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 16 2017 10:46 TheYango wrote:
Which ones have you played other than Echoes?

EDIT: My team, for posterity:

Franz
Cormag
Tana
Saleh
Rennac
Garcia
Knoll

Now to find a JP FE8 rom because I want to experience the hilarity of JP Eirika route Cormag.


awakening and fates, bit of 1(FE11) and 3(FE12) remake but never went far with either of them

FE8 (Sacred Stones) on GBA. FE7 has a better tutorial but if you've played 3DSFE games you dont need that. Beyond that the story and general design of FE8 takes a lot of cues from Gaiden, and a lot of it's features were later redesigned and reused in the 3DSFE games. It's pretty much the perfect bridge between the newer and older FE games.

Also, seeing as we just drafted it, we'll be around to answer your questions.

The other good thing about Fire Emblem 8 is that it has Gilliam in it.

Fire Emblem 8 is also easier than a lot of the other games in the series, which can both be good and bad, depending on the perspective.

Also, it was the first Fire Emblem I've ever played and look where I am now!


Which one has fire marth?

Fire Emblem 6. Jap only, but it's not hard to find an english patched rom. I should warn you that it's a bit tough. Easily the most difficult gba game.

Fire Emblem 7 (featuring Lyn Eliwood and Hector) is a prequel to 6 and the first to come out outside of Japan.

EDIT: Goddamnit Yango... Personally I would go 7 -> 8 -> 6. 7 for me is the best start to the series thanks to lyn mode, but 8 is disconnected to the other 2... I would personally just recommend playing 6 last regardless of which you start with.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 16 2017 19:53 GMT
#2438
If he were totally new to the series, I would agree. But he's already played all 3 3DSFE entries. There's no reason to start with 7 for someone who already is experienced with 3DSFE--Sacred Stones is closer to modern FE than FE7. And if you're not playing 7 first for tutorial reasons, it's better to play 6->7 in release order.
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Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
June 16 2017 20:10 GMT
#2439
I like Fire Emblem 7, but I think I just enjoy Fire Emblem 8 much more.

There's many reasons, but I do think Fire Emblem 8 has a much more interesting plot than Fire Emblem 7. That's just me though.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-17 02:30:30
June 17 2017 02:28 GMT
#2440
so wonder twins > fire dad > fire marth ok in that order I will go

also whats a PME run?

where does the radiant duo fall in this?
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